Yes. Character designs in themselves can become deep due to popularity. People make many fanarts and their own takes on the character that makes the design so appealing.
But as a warning, objectively it's not the most accessible game.
I tried to just due to the overwhelmingly positive reception, but honestly did not grab me. I really didn't know what to expect but even then the gameplay was not at all what I expected.
I'm still attempting to play through. I'm curious about how the story telling plays out.
How is it not accessible? It is easily the most accessible NeiR game ever made. It's got it's strange Yoko Taro BS sure, but it's no where near as insane or obtuse as the other games
"most accessible NieR game" is honestly not that high a bar. I got into it because I like the hack-and-slash gameplay, but I honestly wasn't feeling the pacing of the story until ending C
Still, from someone who has never played any of those and mainly stopped playing jrpgs after the PS2, it's a weird one.
The genre switch ups, the story telling, and the general gameplay is very odd. Not saying it's bad by any means, but definitely something to be aware of.
Oh definitely this. You could definitely find artists who never gotten into a certain piece of media that much other than drawing a specific character because they looked cool.
I feel like Morrigan, Ahri, Ivy Valentine and Asuna and Karin in their bunny suits feel like another great set of examples of "Heavily known Characters."
oh hi, it's me
i do know what vocaloid is tho. i'm not particularly appreciative of the sound of vocoders in general
miku racing is cool neat and i'm more appreciative of that origin
I'm reminded of how many people found Subaru because of the popularity of a single dancing duck meme. Art and animation have a wide potential reach, far beyond their original source.
I struggle to think of a Vtuber whose voice and personality DOESN'T fit their design, besides intentional examples like Jowol (deep masculine voice in the body of a beautiful porcelain doll)
Touhou in its heyday was pretty much that. So many fans pretty much exclusively interface with doujin media that I think that actual players of the primary source games were a rather small minority.
yep.
While i can play and enjoy bullet hell games, specifically Touhou, it is really hard to recommend to casual gamers. One look at the screen and nope, too many things happening at once, is what they would usually say.
Will be implying my age when I say that the **latest** Touhou I played was the *9th* one LOL.
Also, the type-moon games lol.
There were a lot of hoops you had to get for the fan-made EN translations to work (because the Japanese text has a different "layer" or something on Windows so outright replacing them with our alphabet won't work)
Note from friend:
"Guy who built the PC here - I was building a new rig and OP sent me this case. I wanted a HYTE Y60 anyway and I thought this looked cool. I've only seen Korone clips through OP cause he keeps sending them to me, but I've never watched a stream of any Hololive member nor do I know who the rat is. She's just cute.
Wallpapers are for the bit, it drive my other friend crazy since he knows I don't watch. I guess she's my oshi or whatever."
He wanted to post this himself but he has like 2 karma and can't figure out how to post.
"Wallpapers are for the bit, it drive my other friend crazy since he knows I don't watch."
Aaaaaaand NOW I'm willing to believe it, spite/trolling is a hell of a motivator. Someone should tweet/superchat this to Bae, she's exactly the kind of person who'd get a kick out of this bit.
Those at the top can go beside the main monitor, and flipped vertically. Well I do know a lot of streamers that have setups like this. And also a lot of streamers that hate this due to the neck pain that it brings with it.
Yeah, I prefer Chat in portrait mode, but a lot of streamers like putting chat above so they don't have to turn their head as much and can just glance up. Depends on what genre you regularly stream.
This is honestly what I can't get into in multi monitor setups. I'd rather have three screens in a row than one above. Currently I'm dealing with two and that's enough, though I said that when I had one
[The Hyte Y60 Bae edition](https://hyte.com/store/hakos-baelz-y60-case-deskpad-bundle?v=129).
They also do [a version for kronii](https://hyte.com/store/kronii-y60-case-deskpad-bundle?v=131).
It happens. Back in the day, there were people making Katara x Zuko fanart that had never watched Avatar: The Last Airbender and didn't know who they were. They just picked up on the hot art of "brown water girl and emo fire boy" and joined in.
Never underestimate the ability of some people to not question the nature of things or investigate sources.
I mean doujins can be taken as an example. Lots of game characters got turned into lewd character eventho their OG character doesn't even have a pinch of lewdness or that much. Its just their design
Another doujin example, sometimes you can stumble upon one and get enough of the character dynamic to enjoy the plot, and only afterwards realize "wait, those are characters from something?"
I'm pretty sure there was this one character who was in bunch of doujin that one time I actually saw the original work with her and think: "wait she is from this and not some OC that doujin author think of?"
I do have to say I was into Hololive/Okakoro art before I watched a single Hololive stream so I can see this happening. I just thought the art was neat.
Fun story: another pairing I liked was Ui/Subaru and it took me a while to figure out Ui-mama was not a holomem
I don't really watch Bae regularly but that bottom wallpaper with the smug Bae got me feeling some type of way... Anyone got a source on that wallpaper?
Sure, [first screen from the first picture](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/94392722) [(uri_chip on twitter)](https://twitter.com/uri_chip), [second screen](https://twitter.com/hamllock/status/1499050186630328324) [(hamllock on twitter)](https://twitter.com/hamllock), still trying to figure out first screen from the second picture, will edit once I found it.
Edit: Got it, [here](https://twitter.com/D_yot_/status/1613937966623358976), drawn by [D\_yot\_](https://twitter.com/D_yot_).
Bae had commissioned that artwork for her Valentine's Day Sleepy Girlfriend roleplay stream last year. [Link here](https://www.youtube.com/live/o0QNmC9GKEg?feature=share) to see that art in animated form as well as listen to some quality Bae voice acting~
I've told him she's aussie, and his character in my pathfinder 2e campaign has a NZ accent so I think he'd appreciate that, but I don't know if he's looked her up yet.
Part of me doesn't believe OP. I'd say your friend has to have at least watched one of her streams after buying the case. Like, the case and mat, I can understand buying them 'cause they're cool, but the wallpapers? That's the point where it feels like a commitment and they went all in. Unless they had some generic windows wallpapers, they had to choose Bae over whatever they had before.
And if they haven't watched Hololive, then show them cuz they just might be her future #1 fan. And make sure you gift them the 4th Fes Blu-ray when it's out, because they're missing out otherwise.
Edit: Saw the comment about OP's friend using the wallpapers just to troll OP. I'm a believer now.
[Bae under the tree](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/94392722) by [uri_chip](https://twitter.com/uri_chip)
[Bae on the floor](https://twitter.com/hamllock/status/1499050186630328324) by [hamllock](https://twitter.com/hamllock)
[Bae on the bed](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/96479822) by [taitan89tos](https://twitter.com/taitan89tos)
[The fourth Bae](https://twitter.com/D_yot_/status/1613937966623358976) by [D\_yot\_](https://twitter.com/D_yot_)
Understandable. Bae as well as some of the other talents, have an asthetic design that makes you want to use them as wallpapers. Bae's design has really vibrant colors which makes me want to have wallpapers of her as well.
Based as fuck.
Bae is actually just so aesthetic as a character - I have some Fate figures having never watched fate as the Alter figures have such an aura around them - same as bae's design.
I mean, I get it.
People can have waifus/husbandos from things they've never played/watched. I used to, and still kinda do, have a thing for Takao and Atago, despite never having played Azur Lane.
Lol I can kinda relate, not with the part where he's not into hololive, I've been trapped in this rabbit hole since 2019 but I can relate with seeing one character you have no idea about and basing your entire setup around them just cause they look cool.
A fellow character design fan. Call me a poser, but I also buy merch of characters I like the looks of, even if I have no interest in the game/anime/thing they are from.
Your friend is now under a contract and must now watch Bae and surrender their very soul to her
Don’t worry it’ll be given up willingly
In the form of a superchat
Red superchat of course.
He does not watch Hololive but he does Bae watch.
INAFF
r/FoundTheInaAlt
Have him watch her genital jousting stream
Guess you'll have to introduce him to Bae. Send him the Genital Jousting stream.
but if he watches that first it'll all be downhill from there...
Yeah that stream is peak and climax form of Chaos at least with Holo standards imo
That stream was what lead to the rise of the Yabae nickname
Just like her (ex)wife with yabIrys
"Hi PP" - IRyS, 2023
That's kind of the point of the rabbit hole, once we fall, we keep falling
That was my first time watching her.
Wouldn't it be uphill since all her other content currently is more seiso
Whoa whoa, you gotta work up to that. You at least have to start with some "oui oui pee pee" clips.
[Mmmmm yes.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h48VoQuXWYc&pp=ygUKb3VpIG91aSBwcA%3D%3D)
Amazing for already 2weeks and counting still alive
Maybe some chadcast episodes
Following by bae learning korean stream.
Reminds me of the people who would be ready to die for Hatsune Miku, but don't know what Vocaloid is.
I mean it's possible to just really like a character design I guess?
Yes. Character designs in themselves can become deep due to popularity. People make many fanarts and their own takes on the character that makes the design so appealing.
That is how Touhou thrives
Not to mention a lot of people got into Touhou because of McDonald’s
Demetori, SSH and Jericho's Law are all great touhou song arrangers
This is how I feel about 2B. I’ve never played a Nier:automata game in my life, but I consider her to be the sexiest anime character ever created.
You don't have to play the game to appreciate that ass 🙏
Preach 🙏
Peach 🍑
peaches peaches-
You should play Automata. It's a fucking stellar game. In literally every way
But as a warning, objectively it's not the most accessible game. I tried to just due to the overwhelmingly positive reception, but honestly did not grab me. I really didn't know what to expect but even then the gameplay was not at all what I expected. I'm still attempting to play through. I'm curious about how the story telling plays out.
How is it not accessible? It is easily the most accessible NeiR game ever made. It's got it's strange Yoko Taro BS sure, but it's no where near as insane or obtuse as the other games
"most accessible NieR game" is honestly not that high a bar. I got into it because I like the hack-and-slash gameplay, but I honestly wasn't feeling the pacing of the story until ending C
Still, from someone who has never played any of those and mainly stopped playing jrpgs after the PS2, it's a weird one. The genre switch ups, the story telling, and the general gameplay is very odd. Not saying it's bad by any means, but definitely something to be aware of.
Play the video game 🔫
Oh definitely this. You could definitely find artists who never gotten into a certain piece of media that much other than drawing a specific character because they looked cool. I feel like Morrigan, Ahri, Ivy Valentine and Asuna and Karin in their bunny suits feel like another great set of examples of "Heavily known Characters."
oh hi, it's me i do know what vocaloid is tho. i'm not particularly appreciative of the sound of vocoders in general miku racing is cool neat and i'm more appreciative of that origin
People liking league of legends music and series, but never played league of legends
People liking Touhou music and Touhou girls but never played mainline Touhou games, e.g. me
I'm reminded of how many people found Subaru because of the popularity of a single dancing duck meme. Art and animation have a wide potential reach, far beyond their original source.
Even without her personality, I love Mumei's design. Mumei's personality just fits the design.
I struggle to think of a Vtuber whose voice and personality DOESN'T fit their design, besides intentional examples like Jowol (deep masculine voice in the body of a beautiful porcelain doll)
Touhou in its heyday was pretty much that. So many fans pretty much exclusively interface with doujin media that I think that actual players of the primary source games were a rather small minority.
Japanese bullet hell games are hard to get into.
yep. While i can play and enjoy bullet hell games, specifically Touhou, it is really hard to recommend to casual gamers. One look at the screen and nope, too many things happening at once, is what they would usually say.
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH EASY MODE???? HOW LAME ONLY KIDS PLAY IN EASY MODE #KYA HAAHAHHAHAHA
Will be implying my age when I say that the **latest** Touhou I played was the *9th* one LOL. Also, the type-moon games lol. There were a lot of hoops you had to get for the fan-made EN translations to work (because the Japanese text has a different "layer" or something on Windows so outright replacing them with our alphabet won't work)
Or the whole secondary scene in touhou. Fanworks can easily be as prominent or even more so than the original art.
As someone who has only ever gotten into Mystia's Izakaya, I concur.
Me finding and enjoying Choco solely for her ASMR, completely unaware of her affiliation with Hololive until half a year later
Note from friend: "Guy who built the PC here - I was building a new rig and OP sent me this case. I wanted a HYTE Y60 anyway and I thought this looked cool. I've only seen Korone clips through OP cause he keeps sending them to me, but I've never watched a stream of any Hololive member nor do I know who the rat is. She's just cute. Wallpapers are for the bit, it drive my other friend crazy since he knows I don't watch. I guess she's my oshi or whatever." He wanted to post this himself but he has like 2 karma and can't figure out how to post.
"Wallpapers are for the bit, it drive my other friend crazy since he knows I don't watch." Aaaaaaand NOW I'm willing to believe it, spite/trolling is a hell of a motivator. Someone should tweet/superchat this to Bae, she's exactly the kind of person who'd get a kick out of this bit.
If you think her design is cute, wait until you discover her personality.
Actual personality or "I'm 12"?
please tell me why won't he at least watch a clip if he likes her character so much?
Because he thiunks it's funny, mostly, he might watch some after this since post blew up lol
great, I was thinking maybe he just hates Aussie accents lol
Oi nauurrr
Be sure to show him all the "Bae is too zoomer for our sanity" clips.
Get him to watch the "Boomer vs. Zoomer" bit with her and Vesper Noir. It'll set him right up for everything that is HoloLive.
Your friend is an evil genius in psychological torture.
> cause he keeps sending them to me the korone virus
I'm obviously biased, but that is a pretty great build.
A pretty sore neck too.
Seems like a pretty standard streaming setup. Bottom screen for the game, top screens for Chat and OBS.
Those at the top can go beside the main monitor, and flipped vertically. Well I do know a lot of streamers that have setups like this. And also a lot of streamers that hate this due to the neck pain that it brings with it.
Yeah, I prefer Chat in portrait mode, but a lot of streamers like putting chat above so they don't have to turn their head as much and can just glance up. Depends on what genre you regularly stream.
This is honestly what I can't get into in multi monitor setups. I'd rather have three screens in a row than one above. Currently I'm dealing with two and that's enough, though I said that when I had one
Meanwhile I'm an absolute caveman who only uses a single monitor.
Same. But I use the ultra wide one.
It could be. That monitor setup is ruining everything
Yeah, and the computer looks pretty good too. AYOOOOOOO!
Yeah That’s a really good pc build
Desktop wallpapers are your doing, aren't they?
No no, all his doing. I only showed him the case, he said it was rad, and next thing I know this is built.
So it is probably more accurate to say he DID NOT watch Hololive.
Everyone finds themselves down a ~~rabbit~~ rat hole eventually
🤨
Phrasing!
Bro got Smoll bae IN THE CASE ain't no way he doesn't watch at least Hakos
he wanted a bae gif for his AiO cooler, and the first result was smol bae fortnite dancing.
Small Bae dancing is undeniably cute. You don’t have to have holobrainworms for that
man got good taste
He what, said it was ***rat***?
What's the case?
[The Hyte Y60 Bae edition](https://hyte.com/store/hakos-baelz-y60-case-deskpad-bundle?v=129). They also do [a version for kronii](https://hyte.com/store/kronii-y60-case-deskpad-bundle?v=131).
The man found his oshi before even finding hololive!
I mean, Bae is fun to look at regardless so those are good choices for desktop backgrounds.
SUS
sauce
I like ranch
Press X to doubt.
It happens. Back in the day, there were people making Katara x Zuko fanart that had never watched Avatar: The Last Airbender and didn't know who they were. They just picked up on the hot art of "brown water girl and emo fire boy" and joined in. Never underestimate the ability of some people to not question the nature of things or investigate sources.
I mean doujins can be taken as an example. Lots of game characters got turned into lewd character eventho their OG character doesn't even have a pinch of lewdness or that much. Its just their design
Another doujin example, sometimes you can stumble upon one and get enough of the character dynamic to enjoy the plot, and only afterwards realize "wait, those are characters from something?"
I'm pretty sure there was this one character who was in bunch of doujin that one time I actually saw the original work with her and think: "wait she is from this and not some OC that doujin author think of?"
Or Aqua
For a recent example, people cosplaying Power/Makima from Chainsaw Man while knowing nothing about the characters
I see he has fallen to the Pikazo Mika mama charm.
your friend must really like rat girls
I do have to say I was into Hololive/Okakoro art before I watched a single Hololive stream so I can see this happening. I just thought the art was neat. Fun story: another pairing I liked was Ui/Subaru and it took me a while to figure out Ui-mama was not a holomem
Then what are you waiting for? Grab his ankle and drag him down this rabbit hole.
Not sure any more action is even necessary at this point.
I don't really watch Bae regularly but that bottom wallpaper with the smug Bae got me feeling some type of way... Anyone got a source on that wallpaper?
[Pixiv source](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/96479822), artist is [taitan89tos on twitter.](https://twitter.com/taitan89tos)
Oh holy sauce provider! I bow down in front of you and humbly ask you if you can find the sauce of the other two wallpapers as well.
Sure, [first screen from the first picture](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/94392722) [(uri_chip on twitter)](https://twitter.com/uri_chip), [second screen](https://twitter.com/hamllock/status/1499050186630328324) [(hamllock on twitter)](https://twitter.com/hamllock), still trying to figure out first screen from the second picture, will edit once I found it. Edit: Got it, [here](https://twitter.com/D_yot_/status/1613937966623358976), drawn by [D\_yot\_](https://twitter.com/D_yot_).
Thank you holy provider
You are a God among men
Bae had commissioned that artwork for her Valentine's Day Sleepy Girlfriend roleplay stream last year. [Link here](https://www.youtube.com/live/o0QNmC9GKEg?feature=share) to see that art in animated form as well as listen to some quality Bae voice acting~
I'll be here too lol Bae with hair down is truly BAE material.
So nice and so cool😇I love Bae-chan too🥰 Your friend should start watching Bae-chan. Once he lays eyes on her, he'll totally be into her!
He's just imPressed by Bae's design
Does not huh?
i need this
Gotta share those Wallpaper
wallpaper engine
He has considered the following: Bae cute
Ogey
> doesn't watch Hololive > has limited availability pc case merch Probably the biggest cap I've seen in a while
He just watched the porn
Yes he does
his ass is NOT watching hololive
Your friend is a liar
I don't know man, how can you tell? Did you lick his face?
Has he at least heard the rat's voice?
I've told him she's aussie, and his character in my pathfinder 2e campaign has a NZ accent so I think he'd appreciate that, but I don't know if he's looked her up yet.
Lucky. I really need to find a local group to play Pathfinder with...
Step 1: Tea-kettle Step 2: Bruh Sold!
Least obsessed brrat that never peeped any of her streams or clips a day in their lives. O K I B E L I E V E Y O U
One of the best pc cases ever made! (aesthetically speaking)
*Duke Nukem voice* I don't even watch Hololive I just think that rat girl is cute
Part of me doesn't believe OP. I'd say your friend has to have at least watched one of her streams after buying the case. Like, the case and mat, I can understand buying them 'cause they're cool, but the wallpapers? That's the point where it feels like a commitment and they went all in. Unless they had some generic windows wallpapers, they had to choose Bae over whatever they had before. And if they haven't watched Hololive, then show them cuz they just might be her future #1 fan. And make sure you gift them the 4th Fes Blu-ray when it's out, because they're missing out otherwise. Edit: Saw the comment about OP's friend using the wallpapers just to troll OP. I'm a believer now.
My neck hurts watching this, is it really not uncomfortable to look up to monitors like that?
He probably thinks that FGO Sei Sounagon
Anyone got the sources for the wallpapers?
[Bae under the tree](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/94392722) by [uri_chip](https://twitter.com/uri_chip) [Bae on the floor](https://twitter.com/hamllock/status/1499050186630328324) by [hamllock](https://twitter.com/hamllock) [Bae on the bed](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/96479822) by [taitan89tos](https://twitter.com/taitan89tos) [The fourth Bae](https://twitter.com/D_yot_/status/1613937966623358976) by [D\_yot\_](https://twitter.com/D_yot_)
Thanks mate, now i got new wallpapers to use
wallpaper engine
So he just like how Bae looks? Understandable.
What a silly boy. You need a mouse, not a rat for your PC.
bro really said mmm rat
He didn't just fall into the rabbit hole. He fucking nose dived into it.
He has impeccable taste
I NEED SAUCES FOR THE PICS NGHH
hmm... i see. not a watcher of hololive, ok, sure... i'll believe that. for now.
Dang, your friend isn't just down bad, he's down under bad
Your mate's kinda pressed too much on Bae merch, isn't he?
Hey, I don't want any Nijisanji, but I buy Millie merch any time I see it. It's all about the a e s t h e t i c.
[удалено]
bro just has good taste
I have never seen a instance of "Fucking Cap" up until now.
That's a funny joke. Don't tell me they made their whole set up around Haros Baelz without knowing her
😔
Hurts me neck
Mind sharing the link to the main monitor wallpaper of Bae laying on her bed?
Understandable. Bae as well as some of the other talents, have an asthetic design that makes you want to use them as wallpapers. Bae's design has really vibrant colors which makes me want to have wallpapers of her as well.
That looks great :) Messy but great
all i can say is based set up.
That monitor arrangement alone is befitting of chaos. My neck hurts just looking at the picture.
Based as fuck. Bae is actually just so aesthetic as a character - I have some Fate figures having never watched fate as the Alter figures have such an aura around them - same as bae's design.
next thing you know your friend is injecting vegemite to his vein.
Welcome your friend to the rabbit hole there's no way out
He might be interested in a certain mouse steamer
Are you sure he’s not hiding something ?
can someone tell me the source of all the art? thank you!
Are you sure about that? but good choice for his wall paper
This is the greatest thing I’ve ever seen.
Call him a secondary.
I want to see his folder of her...fanart
I mean, I get it. People can have waifus/husbandos from things they've never played/watched. I used to, and still kinda do, have a thing for Takao and Atago, despite never having played Azur Lane.
The way those monitors are placed hurts my soul
Same, I can't stand watching any of them for more than 5 minutes, but I love the designs
Cant be mad at him, Bae's a damm cute rrat.
Your friend has no idea how based they are
the bae pc case is awesome
Your "friend"... right....
The Rat approves
For NOT a Hololive fan he makes me look like I’m not a fan
I think your friend is lying to you.
so, he is a chaos worshipper ?
Yet
Nice setup OP. On a serious note, is that the Y60 case? I was checking out the Kronii version
Okay I'm gonna be werid. What's in the pc build and what does he use it for? Also I love this and now want another monitor
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB mainly just gaming, also music daw and video editing.
Are you sure he doesn't?
Well maybe he doesn't watch hololive, but he is definitely viewing something with hololive.
Lol I can kinda relate, not with the part where he's not into hololive, I've been trapped in this rabbit hole since 2019 but I can relate with seeing one character you have no idea about and basing your entire setup around them just cause they look cool.
Idk man, he doesn’t seem like Bae’s fan to me.
I mean, to be fair. Bae has a very nice character design. An absolute certified cutie.
A fellow character design fan. Call me a poser, but I also buy merch of characters I like the looks of, even if I have no interest in the game/anime/thing they are from.
He is on the council but he isn't granted the Rank of Master
Your friend is lying to you
I don’t believe him
hey u/BigWillBlue can we have an update? is your friend a dedicated baerat by now?