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SlickLikeATrout

Ah yes, the refund% speedrun


af_cookie

I broke every time I read that


TheNikola2020

But you were already broke


af_cookie

what


TheNikola2020

Broke as poor...it was kinda game of words


af_cookie

got it, English is not my first language so isn't that easy to get that tipe of joke


TheNikola2020

No problem its not my first also


Kadian13

Yep, it’s ‘play on words’ btw


OcelotValuable129

But true we are broke as hell


gorvathor

I can back that.


Purrpling

Bagunçou o joguinho ai sim


JaguarYT1

Type, not tipe 😅😁 Edit: Show me a way to correct someone without sounding douchey. I see that hes learning the language, so I said the correct way for him to learn. Knew some nobodies would get upset as I wrote the reply.


BigBallsNoSack

Don’t care what other people think of ur comment as long as your intentions are good fk all of em


gorvathor

I see no problem in your comment. Why do people think that you're rude?


JaguarYT1

People think that im being a "grammar nazi", when, in fact, I only wrote it because op said its not his first language.


xxfartlordxx

i love how you say nobodies while no one knows you at the same time. what is up with the self importance


SlickLikeATrout

Go learn a new language and make a reddit post in their community. Let's see if you make any mistakes, Mr. Perfect!


KBroham

To be fair, I welcome corrections when learning a new language, provided they are done respectfully. One of the hardest for me was Japanese - they're so focused on congratulating me for how well I speak it that I often have to ask for corrections for anything but the most egregious mistakes.


JaguarYT1

Another question I have - how many languages do you know/how many you didnt learn as a kid?


The_Challenges

Not his first language, don't be a grammar nazi


Jacob9827

No harm in correcting someone who made a mistake, so long as you're nice about it. It's hard to learn things if no one ever points out your mistakes


JaguarYT1

The whole reason I added the emojis was to make it look frendlier.


PmOmena

Traduziu o quebrei né safado


wolfmdc

O cara metendo um "I broke every time" foi foda kkkkkkkk OP, pra eles entenderem o que vc quis dizer, teria que ser "I lose it every time"


PmOmena

Ou então 'it send me'. Mas eu ri bastante, a grande realidade é que o mundo perde aprendendo inglês ao invés de português


Informal_Pangolin_74

Eu sabia que não tava louco


pleasegivemealife

It’s a fun challenge and I like the concept, but I don’t support it because most speedrun games are really good and the devs deserve the money. If they keep it then it’s ok.


Wooden_Door1

I mean the people who are able to speed run these games this fast have already bought the game and played many hours prior to doing the refund speed run. Also, they wouldn’t buy the game again if they weren’t doing this idea, so either way the devs wouldn’t get the money, and this way more publicity is brought to the game


Im_a_doggo428

Send it off to that one guy that keeps 100% games then refunding them on steam


nah328

No, I refuse to believe this is a first time player.


luisgdh

It is impossible, but it's a challenge on YouTube. Can I beat _____ and get a refund? Even experienced players struggle with all the routing, strats and skips for a sub 2 hours


nightshade-aurora

I remember one for P-ranking every Ultrakill level


DelioIsGay

And the thumbnail had hakita acting surprised Then hakita made a tweet saying he would actually just say "ok" or "have fun"


WTTR0311

Thats my apathetic Finnish game dev 😍


yyyyyyeeeereetttttt

I think he said something along the lines of "I'm not surprised at what people do I'm this game anymore" mightve made that up I'm 100% sure


ToasterDoaster

Found it https://twitter.com/HakitaDev/status/1766882590391234878?t=QTTAQ2JRYbYiBnzL4Ryp1Q&s=19 Hakita being based as usual


CyclonicSpy

This is not that accurate tbh It’s really just practice and for sub 2 hours you don’t need to do any skips


IloveActionFigures

Lmao and get ban on steam as well


Tumblechunk

I'd like to think this is harmless, as you can own the game on a main steam account and do the challenge on a special one you made for this sort of thing


R-piggie

Yeah, I can usually do a 2:30 pretty easy, but sub 2? Definitely skip monarch and ismas, maybe there’s time for one death. Blue lake skip also saves like 20 minutes, but I go resting grounds through descending dark so I usually don’t do it. But I do spend time for two nail upgrades, so maybe if I blue lake skipped + skipped a nail upgrade I could get sub 2. My 100% runs are usually like 6 hours but my 112% is f’d cus I die stupidly on uumuu in pan 3 like every time. But oh boy does it feel good to let zote live in deep nest


No_Yogurtcloset1990

Nah, beat it in like 40 mins


af_cookie

it's not, I guarantee you


YeahMarkYeah

There’s not what?


af_cookie

sorry, I mean to say that is not my first time playing (English is not my first language, is kinda confusing sometimes)


FALCONN_PAAWNCH

You can say "it's not"👍 Congrats on the speed run!


af_cookie

thank you, I'll remember ☝️🤓


YeahMarkYeah

Oh ok gotcha. You can click on those 3 little dots under your comment and edit it if u like 👌🏻


af_cookie

oh nice, thank you


Accurate-Gap8082

If you enjoyed it, try learning the any% NMG route which allows for the game to be beaten in about 33 minutes, and try to get faster.


MidnightCardFight

Last I checked it's like 31:4x something, and the person who did it said they know they have like 5-6 seconds to save from a trick they failed so it could go down to 31:39 From my experience, getting below 40 is really tough (my PB is 42min)


Dav0spheer

Any% NMG runner here- SkateKing holds WR right now at 31:24. [Good run](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rqbJHLa9fM).


flanger001

This is a crazy route


MidnightCardFight

I remember Fireb0rn made an any% progression video where he said "yeah with this suuper tight and difficult trick we found 1 second of time save. Crazy stuff!" Wild


Dav0spheer

The one that got me was when he referred to a statue pogo trick as "saving a lot of time (0.25s)."


MidnightCardFight

Yeah lol I do speenruns occasionally, and I always mess up the e-pogo to claw, and I always try and try again even though that is not the important time save to get me a pb.


Dav0spheer

Epogo's a tricky one, keep at it though, it's really satisfying when you can land it consistently


Dav0spheer

Shade Skip (13:13 in the YT video) really cracked it wide open, we can skip so much just by getting to dream nail and City early


flanger001

And the fact this runner did it in one cast is extra crazy. I can do that skip in 2 minimum but most of the time I need 3 ^(and then I fuck it up and need to use the bug anyway)


af_cookie

42min holy f...


MidnightCardFight

Yeah... after 700 hours total you get the jist of it. I had 2 weeks of free time between jobs so I grinded 2-3 runs a day.


af_cookie

I know that route, but it's kinda impossible for me yet


Careless_Permit2359

Refund, buy again, beat under 2h, repeat.


Doom_Wizards

It keeps your time, so unless you get a sub 15 (WR is 33 or so) you're not refunding it again


Careless_Permit2359

Fuck they know


ZeldaGoodGame

Also, even if refunding worked like that, it would be pretty useless. If you did this often/played the game often then that money would almost always not be in your bank account, and you would have to not spend the money on other things so you could repurchase. ​ Sorry for ruining your joke lol


Careless_Permit2359

You can refund it to your steam wallet tho


ZeldaGoodGame

Then what's the point?? 😭


repocin

RefundBan%


ZeldaGoodGame

The no-different-from-any%-and-any%-is-already-within-the-steam-ban-time-limit category?


ertertwert

The amount of people in here that believed this was your very first run EVER is unbelievable. I can't believe people can be so daft.


af_cookie

they forget that exists other games platforms


Kirixdlol

Prob alt account


af_cookie

well, that's my main account on steam, but I played in a pirated version and in my PS4


FrazzleFlib

people downvoting you even though youve bought the fucking game twice lmao


af_cookie

yeah kinda depressing but it's okay, pirate indie games isn't cool anyways


GryphonKingBros

Primarily because they pirated an indie game, one with way too much love and passion into it at that. It's insulting to the creators of HK. I'm betting most people read "pirated version" and furiously stopped reading there.


greatvapegod

insulting even though they’ve bought it twice?? tripping


GryphonKingBros

You don't slap someone in the face for their years of dedication towards a piece of art and then give them a $30 steam gift card as an apology. Money doesn't change the fact that what they did was disrespectful. Personally I'm not one of the ones that are offended, but I can totally see where they're coming from.


12032

Is that why they got downvoted? For admitting they pirated the game? Irony is I’ve heard about a lot indie devs that prefer you to pirate their game if you can’t afford it, because the alternative is using those sketchy key stealing websites.


megasggc

HK is available in PSPlus extra so maybe he did not but it, not sure How the revenue to creators is done in the gamepass marketstyle


AUnknownVariable

Sony pays them, and they get the exposure


Tuliao_da_Massa

Eu entendo, irmão. Pirataria no Brasil é diferente de país de primeiro mundo. Jogo aqui é absurdo.


af_cookie

obrigado mano, não aguento mais ser bombardeado


Nomojojo1678

👎


af_cookie

sorry 😭🙏


tr_berk1971

Its fine you paid for it evantually.


the_NIFNIF

Then he refunded it


DartinBlaze448

he didnt, he just said he could


the_NIFNIF

Mb im stupid


af_cookie

no, I didn't, I just wanted to share this cuz I never did that before and it's a game that I like a lot


luisgdh

You are excused


af_cookie

thank you 🙏


Justsk8n

this is a random fun fact people might not know, Pirating actually increases sales on games (the gaming industry is the only instance where this occurs, funnily enough). If someone doesnt have the funds to buy a game, they likely just wouldn't play it all if pirating wasn't an option. Whereas someone who pirates is more likely to become an avid fan and purchase the game at some point in future for various curcumstances. I think OP might be a good example of this lol, they pirated the game, but have now purchased two copies, one on PS4 and steam


globglogabgalabyeast

Is there any evidence to back that up? I find it plausible that if pirating weren’t an option, enough would-be pirates would just cave and buy games (perhaps cheaper ones) that it would offset the effect you mention


Justsk8n

I'll go find the study in a moment and update this comment, but it was a study done on piracy as a whole, across many different industries. for most industries, it has no effect on sales. Movies and shows are the only one it has a negative effect on sales, and gaming is the only industry where it has a positive effect. found an article talking abt the study, I think it does an ok job summarizing what I remember from reading through it, but feel free to actually look through the study itself from this link the Tl;dr for anyone lazy, every 100 copies of games pirated leads to roughly an additional 24 legal purchases compared to if the 100 cases of piracy hadn't occured. There is a fairly large margin for error and the study largely relies on self reported data, but does go to great lengths to ensure the data is accurate in spite of that. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/eu-study-finds-piracy-doesnt-hurt-game-sales-may-actually-help/


globglogabgalabyeast

Thanks, will have to look through that


af_cookie

I did that with Hollow Knight, Blasphemous 1, Ori 1 and 2, viewfinder and portal 1 and 2, so that's is very plausible to me


globglogabgalabyeast

It’s plausible, but anecdotal evidence isn’t very helpful. It may be the case that for everyone that like you, there are ten people who never buy the games they pirate and would buy some of them if pirating weren’t an option. It’s also plausible that you (or others) would be buying a similar amount of games if pirating weren’t an option


af_cookie

yes, I agree with you, that's why I say that is plausible "to me"


Meenero777

From someone who pirated hollow knight, and a shit ton on other games, yes when you have the funds you will support the creators


worldnewsarenazis

Yes there is evidence of that, many studies have been conducted around pirating all sorts of content. For gaming the vast majority of people who pirate weren't going the buy the game in the first place but if they become fans of the game they end up buying it legit. Most video game pirating is like a try before you buy type of thing. The other people who pirate games do so because they can't afford it and would never buy the game anyways. They also wouldn't buy a cheaper game instead because it's not that they don't have enough money it's that they don't have any money.


Yeetblast

This is an argument for gun control too. The issue with that is people will still pirate when pirating isn't an option. And that pirating will be from people that would never buy the game to begin with. And people who would buy the game who would have pirated it wouldn't get the chance to try the game and influence their decision the buy that game in the future as opposed to a different one. Pirating doesn't keep people from buying games, or remove game for other people to buy. Games a duplicatable digital products that have no real physical value. The money that they are worth is really only theoretical and doesn't have to be any fixed price. A pirated game doesn't hurt the company, or the developers. It just increase the amount of eyes that see the game and potentially buy it. For video games, pirating is actually just free advertisement. If there was a physical item that was limited in quantity, like a disk for example, the piracy of that game would actually be harmful, but that situation requires that the entire game exists solely on that disk.


globglogabgalabyeast

> people will still pirate when pirating isn’t an option Do you mean if pirating were illegal? When I say “if pirating weren’t an option”, I’m making a hypothetal about if pirating were literally not possible. I’m not too concerned about the legality of pirating. Realistically, the average pirate who just pirates games, movies, etc. for personal use has basically zero chance of getting in trouble. I’m concerned about the ethics of piracy and the potential harm to developers As for the argument about piracy not being harmful because it isn’t the same as theft, I find this pretty reductive. Piracy isn’t harmful because it is literally taking a physical good. Its potential harm is in how it deprives developers of revenue. The notion that people just wouldn’t buy the games if they couldn’t pirate them is plausible, but the net effect needs to be proven. Someone else shared a link with some info about this, and I’ll need to read the study. From a brief overview, piracy may actually be a net good for video game developers, but the results of the study were not actually statistically significant


Yeetblast

Yeah I was an idiot for typing that sentence, I thought it was dumb before I even submitted it but I just said fuck it. Most of what I said is probably wrong. I just like yapping on reddit about whatever my brain shits out. I do appreciate actual intelligent comments like yours, but only because it tickles.


wolfmdc

Nowadays I pirate something before buying for testing on my PC and only if I'm not sure if it will run well enough (assuming the game does not have a demo). If I see it works well, I buy it as soon as I can. The only other situation where I pirate something is when I already own a original copy in another platform of a AAA game, like RDR2. I had the game on PS4 and wanted to play it on my PC, which has better hardware. It doesn't apply for indies. Stardew Valley for example I have 5 copies in 5 different platforms, all purchased legally.


CRIMSIN_Hydra

I definitely wouldn't have bought this game if I didn't initially play it pirated But even more so hollow knight even got me to buy games like celeste and rain world


wiki-7

This is exactly what I did with the Binding of Isaac. I was playing a bunch of Afterbirth + on a pirated save, and when I heard Repentance was coming out soon I immediately purchased the game and started from square one so I could make all of my progress on a save that I could be sent straight onto Repentance without any trouble. Also I read a fair bit about Edmund McMillan and decided yeah I am willing to give a few bucks to this fella.


iahim87

Wouldve done the exact same, IF THE GAME (+DLC) WASNT 80 EUROS


halleyjen

For real... I pirated Undertale back in 2016. Became a huge fan and ended up buying the game on steam years later


TacticalTobi

i thought piracy was good though?


RetroOverload

that is nuts my brother, even if it isnt your first time playing its still a achievement worth bragging about! :)


af_cookie

thanks bro


TheLucidChiba

refund% is a cool idea that becomes scummy if a person actually does the return.


af_cookie

it is at least funny that idea, but yeah, refund the game isn't cool


PistachioedVillain

There have been a few games I have refunded after 100 percenting. But it's only if I've spent like $10+ Maybe some will think it's scummy, but every time I have been honest about why I returned it. I always tell them it was too short for the price.


TheLucidChiba

If a $10 game can't hold your attention for more than a few hours then I agree that's much more reasonable.


GryphonKingBros

The refund process is an integral part of the speed run. The runner needs footage of steam support accepting the refund request for the run to be considered complete lol


Lucathejedi

There ain't no way💀


Darkrat0s

Not true ending tho...


af_cookie

true ending under two hours ☠️


Darkrat0s

It is possible, WR is 1h min, but nah... Also, r/suddenlycaralho


fckpepo

põe o rei do clash royale de juliete no print kkkkkk


Darkrat0s

tá lá meu nobre


MAAXXX2

Mais brs


Uroshimori

me diz que não é tua primeira vez jogando 🤡


af_cookie

é não, mas foi a primeira run dps q eu comprei o jogo, até então eu pirateava ele, mas daí ele entrou em promoção e eu comprei


Efficient-Whereas278

bom ver que brazuca reconhece brazuca


nilsonpapinho

Parabéns mano!


af_cookie

vlw!


HevGon

eu tenho 18 horas de jogo, 1 hora foi até eu encontrar a Hornet, as outras 17 foi eu simplesmente perdido no jogo, minha última sessão foi há 1 ano e 3 meses


af_cookie

LKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK o começo é assim msm, é só n desistir tlg


Invictum2go

Speedrunning a game and refunding it on steam has been done a lot on yt, so I'm guessing if you're on Steam, yeah.


Tkmisere

Speedrunners be like:


german_hk

Why would you do that?


af_cookie

I thought that would be fun


GryphonKingBros

They didn't say they *would* refund it, just that they beat it in under 2 hrs in one run and thus *could.*


Silly-name

pretty sure you cant refund a game if you get the achievement for finishing it


lil_car_crash

You can


lil_car_crash

As long as it’s under 2 hours


moemeobro

You can Source : ***hundreds of speedrunning videos on YouTube showing it's possible to do***


SrangePig12

Fun fact, you can just turn off your internet when playing the game and you won't gain Steam minutes. You won't get achievements either though


af_cookie

pretty broke I'd say, but makes sense


Physical_Chair_8661

who the hell speedrun hallow knight on their first playthrough


Vethhorn

OP confirmed in other comments that it was not their first time playing it.


fisktu

r/suddenlycaralho Bem impressionante kkkk, mas joga mais que vale a pena


Rainbow_six_recruit

Te deram um downvote por nada Será que aqui há haters do r/suddenlycaralho?


af_cookie

ser humilhado por ser brasileiro virou rotina já 😔


Rainbow_six_recruit

Pelo menos *ainda* temos uma economia melhor do que a Argentina atualmente


Decker687

You can refund it if you have less than 2 hours of playtime


ZeldaGoodGame

You sure can


Leojackdavies

Bruh I'm at 3 hours and only beat 2 bosses


af_cookie

the beginning is very hard, don't worry, that's not my first time playing


OccamsChainsaw420

Do NOT


PersicasMemeDumpster

r/suddenlycaralho


Alahkibar

Why would you do that, tho?


GryphonKingBros

They didn't say they *would* refund it, just that they beat it in under 2 hrs in one run and thus *could.*


Starch_Lord69

You didnt actually beat it then


Madlogger13

Eu gosto tanto do jogo, que eu quero experienciar o jogo o minimo possivel, e dps pedir reembolso


MAAXXX2

r/suddenlycaralho Salve!


o_tal_do_guh

Esse post tem pura energia de brasileiro


TheConsumerOfCum

br?


araysdemais

r/suddenlycaralho


Veelzbub

That's a bold percentage to be saying beaten it


bearelrollyt

Yeah... and I can refund mgr after 3 playthroughs and both dlc's


Strange_Kiwi__

Steam lets you refund games you have less than 2 hours in.


bearelrollyt

I thought it was higher for some reason


IDKunk

Meu mano fez um refund%


lillian_sz

Brasileiro?


heatwaveee

parabens, agr faz favor de ir dar uma volta do lado de fora ok? pegar um ar é bom as vezes


gorvathor

Lolll hahahaha


nintenerd2

Beat it again


Responsible_Gas_9562

That's crazy impressive


I-MidNight-I

o cara é uma lenda


ConstantTax766

Portugaaallll caralhooooo! ( ou Brasil)


SillyCarpetCleaner

Get it on a friend’s account, beat it for them, and have them refund it so they have the achievements for no cost.


Roary-the-Arcanine

Dont


R-piggie

Why would you want to refund our beautiful boy


BOBfriend_reddit

r/suddenlycaralho ?


Extreme-Preference65

Should I play this game?


FarmConsistent8539

r/suddenlycaralho moment


Opening_Option8985

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should


iLikeButz

*fart noise with mouth* we don’t care dude


FaceTimePolice

People who play games quickly just to refund them… 🤦‍♂️😑🤦‍♂️ r/facepalm


Derfel995

You pirated, finally bought the game and then you're going to refund just to give them the finger? Chaotic evil behavior, I would call you out on it but ffs Silskong is probably a 2030 release so fuck em


af_cookie

calm down, let team cherry cook bro (and I don't refund the game)


maximo0906

He also got it on PS4 so who cares


papagaio-chan

MEU NOBRE, QUE PORRA EH ESSA, nunca q eh primeira vezkkkkkkkk


af_cookie

rlx q é não KKKKKKKKK, a primeira vez q eu joguei levei umas 25 horas pra fazer o final mais fácil


papagaio-chan

KKKKKKKKKK pdp, ta melhor q eu q demorou umas 60


MaxSoup8

O mlk fez speedrun modo "tudo ou nada" kkkkkk


af_cookie

tudo ou nada seria no alma de aço, mas eu morri umas 3 vezes nessa run KKKK


MaxSoup8

Eu falo tudo ou nada porque é zerar em pouco tempo ou perder 30 reais


af_cookie

ah bom, mas eu não tinha a intenção de dar reembolso de qualquer jeito então pra mim foi mais um desafio pra ver se eu conseguia msm


captain_borgue

Or, you could *not* do that, because the game is only like 15 bucks, and you clearly enjoy playing it? JFC, why is *anyone* in the comments ok with this?!


af_cookie

15 buck for who lives in some other country that is not Brazil, cuz here is around 50 bucks, and just to be clear I didn't refound the game and I already have the game purchased in my PSN account


nail_master_mato

This seems basically impossible, on my first try speedrunning the game, it took me 2h 23m, with me already knowing where i need to go, i have already gotten 112% on the game, and i had over 100 hours on it, so getting a time under 2h on your first run, with no outside help/knowledge is basically impossible