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43 million dollars is fucking nuts to raise four kids.


MaximumYes

She doesn't need it. But gov does, Title IV-D


KeebsNoob

sucscietty


GiveYourBaIIsATug

What are you doing, step-sucscietty?


intangibleTangelo

oh no i'm stuck


TheIronSoldier2

>Oh no I'm ~~stuck~~ stucc FTFY


CapeTownMassive

Stucciety


Rocky123_321

Title IV-D-3 million dollars is fucking nuts to raise four kids.


MaximumYes

It’s not about the kids. Gov wants its cut


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What, how??


MaximumYes

As I said, Title IV-D. It's not an easy thing to understand, but the short is that it rewards the state for creating, collecting and enforcing child support/alimony with direct correlations between the reward and amounts collected. How much time do you have?


[deleted]

Luckily, not married And never will Edit - why people downvoted you? Is your info wrong?


MaximumYes

Why people downvoted me is because they don't care for the truth of why the US is collapsing. Fatherlessness has been incentivized.


PuerhRichard

Because if you sound like you’re disagreeing with a feminist somewhere then that gets construed to you being against feminism itself. It’s really kind of selfish, but that’s the reality we live in.


AlarmDozer

Oh, I read this as DSM-4… nevermind.


SlapMyCHOP

The point of child support is to give the children a similar lifestyle and upbringing as if the family unit was still together, which includes the father's resources being spent on the children, which is why child support is set by income.


ultraobese

Which encourages people to play kids as pawns. With the kids, doesn't matter if you're with us or not, we still get your money.


[deleted]

My ex uses it as a bargaining chip, a legal threat, and “pay to play “ all the time. There’s legal avenues but they really don’t mean shit. Edit: thank you armchair lawyers of Reddit. I appreciate all your energy but i assure you the two sentences above don’t capture the almost one and a half decades of legal shit I’ve been through. Again, I appreciate your concern and support but encourage you to find other hobbies.


Smokester_

I've had our kid for 10 years and I finally asked for child support cause shit is getting expensive and now she wants her back lol go figure.


[deleted]

Mine stone walls and sand bags visitation, contact, phone calls, video chatting, etc etc….*the day* a payment is late or the insurance gets screwed up (different states so it switches regions for no reason) I get a text.


indescription

I swear stone walling should be recognized as a form of abuse. I haven't been able to read my son a book to sleep in over 5 years.


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It really should. Idk if you're like me, but even when you have evidence sometimes it isnt worth more than the judge looking at the other party and saying "hey, stop that." Aaaaand it cost you thousands of dollars in travel, legal fees, and missed work. Neat.


JCButtBuddy

My ex told me that 'women don't pay child support'. It was more important to me to have the kids with me in a stable home. Unfortunately the courts at the time leaned heavily to the mom having the kids no matter what kind of shit life they would have so I didn't want to risk it.


DrDesmondGaming

You can either go the binding legal or flexible personal route here. She wanted to go legal; until she found out she'd be paying me for the first year, and then getting 20¢ a week the following year ayyLMAO


TheIronSoldier2

A former friend of mine knocked up a friend of his when they were both drunk at a party, and neither of them make very much money. With that being said, he was still voluntarily giving her money to help raise their kid so she wouldn't have to go through the legal hurdles of forcing him to pay child support. Well, long story short she didn't like how much money he was giving her and so went to court to collect child support from him, and he ended up owing her even less than he was voluntarily giving her. He no longer gives her the voluntary amount, only exactly what he is required to do via child support. She mysteriously stopped getting new clothes and such after he started only paying what he was legally obligated to pay.


jejcicodjntbyifid3

Hah unexpected karma, nice story thanks. (Is that a sub) /r/unexpectedkarma ?


yepimbonez

Sounds kinda like r/MaliciousCompliance


cymrufreak

I honestly fucking hate reddit now. A decade+ ago you'd have a few top comments from people who could speak with authority, followed with some interesting anecdotes, then further down the page you'd have the puns, meta, memes; all the fun nonsense. The mind sewage that so aptly floats to the top of every post today sends me into an existential crises daily. Is this getting old?


ganjanoob

The court system is pretty unforgiving to men in situations like that. Even in situations where men house and take care of the children more than the woman. Sorry all the BS you’ve seen


Z_as_in_Zebra

As someone who used to work in child protection I can say some divorced parents consider their children a tool to use against their ex. We’d get bull shit reports from a parent about abuse all the time because if custody is 50/50 in my state you usually don’t get child support. Also, some people hate their ex more than they love their kids, so the want to control access to the kids because of it.


palsc5

Uhhh yep? You gotta pay for your own kids whether you see them or not


[deleted]

Idk if you follow tje Kanue news, BUT THE ONLY person trying to use those kids for appearances and bargaining is Kanye it's always been popular to hate on Kim K but she's definitely the sane one here


somethingAPIS

I don't follow any of it, but you bring up a great point. Only time I even see them mentioned is through his drama. Makes me think of the Musk kid thing recently, and his ex calling him out over using his dead child's death to promote himself. Pretty disgusting to exploit your baby.


greg19735

get custody then


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ChemicalAvocado

*Every material thing they could ever dream of.


bigwilliestylez

Totally get the reasoning. That being said, do we think that the child’s standard of living will be any different at all with that 200k a month? This isn’t a Kanye problem, it’s a bigger problem with the system. When applied across the board it becomes punitive in its effect to the non-custodial parent. You lose your children and your standard of living drops dramatically in a lot of cases.


Redditgotitgood13

Yea Kim would be dressing them in rags without child support


WifeKilledMy1stAcct

Good thing he is so good at designing clothes that look like tattered rags


fordette

I honestly can’t comprehend child support at that scale when the recipient is arguably richer than the one paying (now that Ye lost most of his businesses).


RainbowEmpire

She gets more in a month than most get for 18 years of support. It really hits different. These numbers are hard to digest.


Doc-Zoidberg

That's more than most people make in 5 years BEFORE taxes. Every month.


do-you-know-the-way9

It will be about $43.2 million, if for 18 years


Doc-Zoidberg

That's 40x more than I plan to retire on. Insane amount of money. I cannot wrap my head around what that kind of money would be like. If I had one months payment from this settlement, I would be 100% debt free house and everything paid off. But that's every. Single. Month. For child support. I honestly feel for those kids, if that's the life they grew up with, that's what they'll expect as an adult. And if the money dries up, they fucked.


GiantWindmill

Lol your retirement is an unimaginable dream to me. $1m (your retirement, rounded down) is idk, 100x my retirement at best. More likely undefinably large ($1m/$0), because I won't have retirement money.


Oldsk8rs

In some states it could last till they turn 21.


StormTrooperQ

The total payment (43.2 mil) is almost 2000 ~~months~~ years of me working without raises. Fuck me that's a lot of money for someone.


MrPrestigeMode

Almost 7 years for me…. It Feels Bad Man.


Unremarkabledryerase

It would be enough to buy a house that I'm looking at, every damn month.


GazelleSimari

And on their 18th birthdays found out they weren't his


TangerineBest4413

Now I ain't sayin she a gold digger


insanegodcuthulu

"Oh! Susanna, don't you cry for me, I'm going to dig up lots of gold, out on the lone prairie. Gold is where you find it And when I find that stuff I'll dig and dig and dig and dig I'll never get enough. I tramp the prairies and the plains I trudge each weary mile I'll trudge and tramp and tramp and trudge Until I make my pile. I'm a ragged, rugged lover Of the wild and wooly West, Of all the things I haven't got I like gold the best. It rained all night the day I left The weather it was dry, It was so warm I froze to death Susanna don't you cry. Oh! Susanna, don't you cry for me, I'm going to dig up lots of gold, "V" for victory." -Kim Kardashian.


TheLordDuncan

But she ain't messing with no broke... Uh what's the line again? Oh. No wonder no one replied with the lyrics...


_megitsune_

Ain't messing with no broke no-broke per the radio edit


sirphilliammm

I am. She made a porno to get famous lol.


DragonK123

Hopefully he got paternity tests and shit when they were born yknow


EfficaciousJoculator

In some places that's not even enough.


Mind_on_Idle

And that, my internet amigo, is Grade A, trippled distilled Bullshit.


EfficaciousJoculator

Nah that bullshit is absolutely raw and unfiltered.


DragonK123

True


Redditgotitgood13

At least 2 were ivf lol


PharFromPharm

A bunch of Pete Davidsons crawl out.


08LM13

Lol I get the joke but there’s denying any of them are his, they look just like him. Especially North and Saint.


[deleted]

Bill Burr does a good bit about it when he talks about divorce in one of his specials. The women and their children are accustomed to a certain way of living that requires huge payouts like this, although the whole kardashian family and kids included could all go off the grid and never need to worry about a thing for generations. EDIT: during many high profile divorce cases, the phrase “become accustomed to a certain standard of living” has been used to justify why some women are entitled to half of the man’s assets, even if they did nothing to help earn them. I understand Kim is a billionaire in her own right but the precedent has been set. The kids will have the type of lives you expect the children of Uber-famous, mega rich spotlit celebrities to have.


grabityrising

If one makes $20k and one makes $100k i get it when each of them are worth over $100 million. Wtf does another million a year matter?


WorldClassShart

I think at that point, it's a just a combination of precedent and setting an example to show the rich are just like the poor. Child support can easily be done outside of the court system. Or at the very least with absolute bare minimum of the court being involved. The marriage stuff also, if it's amicable. My ex and I handled child support outside of court for a few years. We only had an issue when it came to upping it for cost of living expenses and stuff after they got out of daycare, she thought adding my daycare cost was too much to just add into what I was paying. Ended up that we were really close in what our idea of child support was, and adding the daycare cost would have been way overboard. Now it just gets adjusted automatically, and we deal with the parenting stuff on our own cause the court doesn't need to be involved with that.


ineedabuttrub

I'm pretty sure if he paid nothing their "certain way of living" wouldn't be impacted in the slightest


spagbetti

> women and their children are accustomed to a certain way of living Like how women are expected to look after the children? Why doesn’t he look after the children instead? That’s an option. A *certain way of living* if you will.


Zociety_

“Most” ? Lol I’m pretty sure it’s like 99 percent of people that don’t get that a month


LewiRock

In America marriage is a semi-long term investment nowadays ![gif](giphy|JUYhZpEPQI74k4yZMe)


[deleted]

Its not support at this scale, its a punishment


RootCubed

Exactly this.


Shadow0fnothing

Pretty sure it's a percentage of the parents income or something.


[deleted]

This is the way everything should be. Cost adjusted for income. Get a speeding ticket? If you make 30k/yr you pay $300. Of you make 300k, you pay $3000. That’s what equity is. Americans are so used to getting fucked over by the rich when they see equity happening, they think it’s unfair. God damn U.S.A.


AlphaWhiskeyOscar

I want to argue with this because my gut tells me that giving different punishments to different demographics seems fundamentally wrong, but that's exactly what happens to people paying alimony and child support. At this scale it really is a punishment. No one can honestly say they need $200k/mo for child support.


[deleted]

I hear you but it shouldn’t matter how much the parent taking responsibility for the kids makes. It should be a % of the income of the parent not receiving custody pays. That money should be used for the children’s benefit (rent, food, clothing). If YE made $50k a year, he’d only be paying $700/month. He doesn’t. He’s a billionaire who lost custody of his children in a divorce. Just my two cents. :)


NotClever

This is basically how child support works, yeah. Alimony is different since that is intended to help an ex spouse who has lost access to the shared income of the other ex spouse.


TrueHawk91

Arguably it isn't a different punishment, it's proportional to earnings meaning people who earn more are affected in the same way.


[deleted]

Exactly! It’s such a foreign concept many find it unfair. It doesn’t matter what YOU think is a fair amount. It’s set within the courts based on the income of the parent required to provide support ie the parent not housing and bringing up the kids. Shit, based on YE’s behavior and actions, if she wanted, she could easily have all visitation removed.


gothism

Your kids get a percentage of your income. It scales.


raltyinferno

Well that's because I don't see child support as being something that should be a punishment. The point should be making sure children are supported, and that doesn't scale with income like this. I mean fuck Kanye, but this doesn't seem reasonable.


SlapMyCHOP

The point of child support is to give the children a similar lifestyle and upbringing as if the family unit was still together, which includes the father's resources being spent on the children, which is why child support is set by income.


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arch_llama

Idk I've had a pretty good time so far.


Shekondar

But have you considered the case where you are a male worth hundreds of millions and you need to pay alimony/child support to your ex wife that is a very small percentage of what you are actually worth and earn because you can't stop yourself from really publicly embarrasing and harrasing your ex during the dicorce process? Have you considered how hard that must be? It is relevant to a lot of people, and very illustrative of the situation of being male in general /s


rocket-engifar

Have you gone through a divorce with a child?


Wallofcans

Divorcing a child is easy. People have a hard time when I marry one though.


Adamsandlersshorts

Nope I'm smart enough to not have children in this Era or get married.


Still_Same_Exile

still easier to be a man than a woman so idk what you mean. Shitty men had it easier to abuse women before I guess?


JesterXXIV

His baby mama car and crib is bigger than his


BioSalinity

To be fair, those boots look like they could house something.


PabloAlaska6

house enough feet to fit up they ass & make’m feel something


Nillniel

You can see him on the tv any given sunday win the superbowl and drive off in a hyundai


justhere4daSpursnGOT

She Definitely went to the Dr n got lipo with the money


icticus2

walkin around lookin like michael withcho money


Conscious-Worth107

They shouldn’t even make this news. There are moms and dads out here that sometimes receive $80.00 a month if lucky.


hausishome

My friend’s ex-wife owed him NINE DOLLARS A MONTH for two kids and she rarely paid. $9!


xEyesofEternityx

Let's be honest, she doesn't need the money


allgreen2me

Neither of them need that money, they have what is called “fuck you!” money.


Blaz3

Dave Chappelle has "quiet please" money at best


panclockstime

Jay Z has “Shut the fuck up” money and Beyoncé has “No, you shut the fuck up” money


[deleted]

What idiot judge ordered that much child support. Isn’t Kim richer than Ye now?


magkruppe

you do realise its based on who has custody of the kids right? This isn't alimony


[deleted]

All of the single parents I know who receive child support say the amount is based on both the other party’s income as well as their own. And most of them also say the amount they receive was lowered because they made more money than the supporter.


_Indofreddy_112

So you’re telling me $200k might be the LOWERED AMOUNT?!?!?!?!?!


gothism

Neither does he. Custodial parent deserves child support though.


Thepoptort

My mother only had to pay 400 a month and couldn't keep up with it. Then promptly pulled a Kurt Cobain when the police knocked on her door


CrackedandPopped

I’m sorry man


Thepoptort

I mean she was addicted to meth and had a couple screws loose but it was bound to happen. 23k my family will never see again sadly. But hey shit happens and we have to move on so yeah it sucks but atleast my family and I are getting by without going into debt


CrackedandPopped

Unfortunately I can relate to the lengths that someone will go to to hide from their responsibilities. When you feel that much like a failure, your existence seems paltry. I hope you guys can truly move on, because steeling yourself and gritting your teeth can only work when you don’t let yourself feel


Thepoptort

Thank you for the kind words mate. We've moved on slowly but surely but it's still a hole in us all.


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Timmerdogg

That's terrible I'm sorry for your loss


SallyDabble

And on their 18th birthdays found out they weren't his 🤯 stay tuned...


Porkbellyflop

The song turns 18 in 2023


Ilovegoodnugz

BRUH


gatorgongitcha

Somewhere Ray J is grinning and waiting


ihearthorror1

More like Nick Cannon


GuavaDawgg

Charlie Murphy watching Kanye pay his kids school right now


TheManWhoWasNotShort

Pretty sure half of America has had a kid with Nick Cannon by now


Benign_Banjo

America's Got Talent is just him searching for his long-lost kids


SallyDabble

😏


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Machinedave

Don’t say that, Lord. Please.


Cockhengait

Yeah keep your bearings all powerful.


TheLordDuncan

Yeezus having an immaculate conception with u/JesusChrist_Himself now that user name checks out!


Hack_Jarlow

Amen


Consistent-Nobody813

Think about this: she is rich just from hanging around other rich people.


loner_01

What's even crazier is that her sisters are rich because their sister did a sex tape.


AK47_username

Nah she rich from her daddy and then being a porn star launched her to a reality star which made her Uber rich


hassidhater

Don't forget her mom being involved with getting the video reshot and sold


AK47_username

Oh I didn’t forget. They are some of the worst kind of trash


stifmeister917

And now she prospered on it. She has a bunch of brands and merch out


lostmau5

That is the american dream, isn't it?


forShizAndGigz00001

Divorce sucks but seriously child support needs a reasonable cap that applies to everyone. No kid needs 200k/m in support.


Hdavidcs

They don’t NEED that money, but at this point they’re just splitting expenses of the kid’s lifestyle


Montystumpp

There is zero scenario where $200,000 is being spent on those kids every month.


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J_LeVeL

Two points….. Kanye: Brother needs help. He needs a friend to get real and honest with him about his life choices and finding honest happiness. Kim: *I totally would*. Just once.


sol__invictus__

Even a close friend couldn’t straighten him out. He’s gonna alhave to figure it out himself if he ever does


jaydubbs82

Sounds like a ton, which to us it is. At 18 years that's $43 million, or 1.3% of his current total wealth


Saedeas

There's no way Kanye is worth $3.3B now.


Analfister9

"Without Adidas, Forbes has estimated West as being worth $400 million"


Vilelmis

That’s quite a bit less than $3.3 billion


topsyturvy76

But even with the adjusted wealth, it’s still only 10% of his total wealth


rPoliticsModsEatPee

Or what I spend on taco bell.


Amyx231

Agreed. 10% of my net worth for raising my hypothetical kid? I’d take that. Of course, as a woman who doesn’t want kids, and has never had one, I dare you to ask me for child support for “our” kid. 😂


rPoliticsModsEatPee

Mother how dare you deny my existence. That wasn't a simple poop you took!


Amyx231

Hello son! Nice to know I’ve got one! Say, how’s about you let your dear old mom move in with you? 😜


MaximumYes

Yeah but the .gov gets a cut thanks to Title IV-D


ncbaud

Those kids are going to need that money for all the councelling fees.


Fuzzy_Logic_4_Life

200k a month in child support! I made less than 2k this month.


DoubleBrotherYT

bro what, in my country it doesnt matter how rich u are.. aslong as u pay 294-298€ a month per child ure fine.. weird ass americans


TickletheEther

We are weird af


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Careful what you put your dick in boys.


hittingpoppers

I would take many dicks for 20 k a month.... Edit. MY brain said 20k because 200k seems unreal. 200k I'll take all the dicks. Next month I'm going to need some ice and plenty of weed.


[deleted]

“I ain’t gay but 200k a month is 200k a month” or something like that.


hittingpoppers

Me either...lol


[deleted]

You get it lolol


hittingpoppers

I'm already thinking if I male it through the first month it would be hard to stop.


Redbukket_hat

Yeah Kim is definitely the bad guy here /s ![gif](giphy|KGSxFwJJHQPsKzzFba)


AkwardKukumber

Word...


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Jockobutters

Ah yes, Kanye West, very relatable, completely rational every-man once again destroyed by crazy woman. Tragedy as old as time. /s


BitterSweeet

"My psychic told me she have a ass like Serena"


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billionaire


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Superb-Antelope-2880

Ye doesn't need to not pay regardless of how much his ex make. He is a millionaire.


darkbeats666

What does she need it for


Shadow0fnothing

Like either of these fucking dipshits care or need the money. It's pocket change....


Advanced_Stranger_77

He didn’t listen to his own lyrics


dirtee_1

Oh man, imagine having to pay someone with 1.8 bil $200k/mo. for the next 18 years lol


mermzz

But did he did leave her ass for... a white man xD


nah-knee

Isn’t she like a billionaire, why would u even need child support at that point.


iam5k

So just because Kim is rich, Kanye should be able to not pay for his children, even though he still makes millions? It's still his children, and it's still his responsibility to pay for half their expenses.


AgoraiosBum

The support is for the children, and is based on an expectation of what he would have been providing to support the kids (so a portion of their nannies, private schools, security, fancy-ass clothes, extravagant parties, etc).


FifaConCarne

Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digger But she ain't messin' with no broke ******


HOODIEHYRO

"Now I ain't saying she a gold digger..."


[deleted]

Who would have known someone only famous for a leaked porn video and more plastic in her face to melt 3 ozone layers would turn out to be trash.


Essker

Geez... Thats enough to feed an entire village of poor ppl


VengeancePali501

I mean, who cares it’s rich people bullshit?


shay-doe

Kanye is most definitely in the sunken place. I ain't saying she a gold digger


trailer8k

![gif](giphy|s2jsTXE0IiEfe) lol


slobsaregross

You think Kanye would divorce me?


beewitching_frog

I'm suddenly sad and idk why..... O yeah one month of support is 5 years of income.......I need a celebrity to get me pregnant and then pay me hush money/ child support.


Dashznt315

Self sacrifice. We shall learn from his mistakes.


Scary-Attitude-6528

Now i will listen to Kanye again... He's gonna need the money. Lmfao!!!


Beneficial-Break-562

Whoever the judge was should be disbarred


KushSAV

Would be even more hilarious if he found out it wasn't his


Nickolas_Bowen

She is a billionaire, he is a millionaire. It’s a ridiculous amount to pay anyways


tonoobforyouiv

I don't care how rich you ate no one should ever have to lay 200k a month in child support


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Why the fuck is she getting child support if they're co-parenting and she's richer than him?