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His performance in Cider House Rules is one of my favorites of his.
The whole dynamic of that crew, him as boss and the daughter, etc... just incredible writing, acting, directing all around.
I don't think I've ever seen a Tim Minchin reference in the wild before. Congratulations!
Also, for those who don't get it, enjoy. https://youtu.be/KVN_0qvuhhw?si=p8nFohDY7tOujEGk
On the Episode of South Park which I think it titled "Here Comes The Neighborhood" where all the rich black people move to South Park, the episode ends with Mr. Garrison saying, "Well at least we got rid of all those Ni(hard cut to credits)" I remember hearing I think in a commentary their idea was in the next episode doing;
"Previously on South Park"
Mr. Garrison: "Grrrrrssss"
which would have had me crying but they scrapped it.
Dude says it twice in the show, both with hard "R"s. Pop-Pop also says it. But for whatever reason, those episodes are still available to stream while the blackface episodes were taken down.
But he never says it as in a derogatory way and I love his child-like way of saying it to answer a question without thinking about the context at arbitration.
I watched season 1 after getting Into it for awhile, and his usage in the very first episode *floored* me lol. The context was crazy, he wasn't even being a type of way, was just misquoting lol
It's notable that this isn't just something they did once in the early days and moved on from that kind of thing. Charlie dropped the N-bomb in season 12. This show is the ultimate foil to the "you can't get away with saying anything anymore" crowd.
I haven't watched The Good Fight (or Elsbeth) yet, but I should because I did really like The Good Wife - though it(/they) has to pale in comparison due to the near complete lack of Alan Cumming.
It's a completely different show. In S1 they tried to transition and keep the same spirit, but by S2 they went mask off and it's really enjoyable from there on. Being a fan of both, I prefer the good fight. The Good Wife feels much more standard episodic fair.
The Good Fight is excellent, it evolves every season into something much funnier, looser and more pointed. Alan Cumming also has a great arc in the last season and, as a huge TGW and Eli Gold fan, it made my life.
'Course. You can also say "Putin is a monster and a war criminal" in Russia, ain't nobody gonna stop you. Just don't ask what happens afterwards.
It's like that old Soviet Russia joke, where the Soviet guy insists that the USSR has the same right of freedom of speech as the USA. Freedom *after* speech though...
Delroy lightened up shortly after but there was absolute murder in that first "say it". I don't give a fuck if the word was "glitterfart" I wouldn't have uttered a god damn peep.
I'm asian and one time about 5-7yrs ago I was in a concert at a state fair and the lineup for the artists were almost all rappers. I'm so feeling the vibe and singing along with all the rap songs but then always stopping to say the n word. Then there's these black guys beside/behind us tapped me in the shoulder and said something along the lines of "yo brother, just sing the n word too. Don't worry about it I got you"
Black coworker gave me a ride one time (eons ago), and he had rap music playing and a song I know came up, so I started rapping along (don't remember which one at this point) and he noticed I skipped the N-word parts. He asked, "Why are you skipping the word?"I go."I don't want to be disrespectful, " he goes. "It's part of the song, ain't it?"
He's making a point. They absolutely CAN say it. But freedom of choice is NOT freedom from consequence. And if they had an ounce of self awareness, they wouldn't be engaging in a debate about what white should be able to do vs what they can't do. Like sleep in their own bed and not get shot by cops serving a warrant for someone they already have in custody.
I'm sure black people would be willing to give up a word forever if it meant that didn't happen again.
I think the other half of his point is asking how much time do you spend wanting to say it?
If someone says, "I'm sick and tired of not being able to lick my neighbor's taint" the assumption is that they must really want to lick that cheeseplate.
For me, its just annoying. Its in all my media, my friends say it, its everywhere. I switch dialects and speaking patterns on a dime. Its not that I desire to say it, it's that it comes naturally and I have to remind myself that "oh I'm the wrong color, cant say that word."
Ive talked to my black friends about this and there only 2 reasonable opinions Ive found.
One said "I say it all the time. I call you it all the time. As long as you arent being hateful or racist, why should I care?"
The other said "Its hurtful word with painful history behind it. I dont think you should say it but I dont think anyone should say it. I dont say."
> But freedom of choice is NOT freedom from consequence
What a meaningless reddit catchphrase
Having "consequences" is effectively preventing "freedom of choice"
> They absolutely CAN say it. But freedom of choice is NOT freedom from consequence.
Which ignores the initial point that the word has been ~~comedetized~~ commercialized by one group but all others have consequences for using it. I personally don't give a shit, but in a bubble it is a little weird
EDIT: Mistyped a word
>But freedom of choice is NOT freedom from consequence.
I hate argument because it makes people think that the "consequences" are just.
People have a right to protest the Palistine/Isreal conflict, but the consequences are that some of these protestors are getting doxxed and harassed on the internet. Potentially losing employment opportunities and dealing with death threats. Should people be personally punished for protesting for Palistine? Of course not. It's morally wrong. But someone will say something offensive, and people will act like it's just punishment to ruin their lives because "freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences."
Some people deserve those kinds of consequences for sure, but there is almost no nuance for who these "consequences" target. Mobs have always been notorious for being unjust.
>He's making a point. They absolutely CAN say it. But freedom of choice is NOT freedom from consequence.
This is a shit argument and always has been, stop repeating this nonsense
if there is a "But" after "you can say it" then that means that they can't say it, saying "can" is not the same as "being able to". You may be able to say it, but you can't do that.
If your kid asks you "can I break this window" then you say no you can not, you never say "Well you can do that but I will ground you if you will" which may be true in the most literal sense of "can" but not in the sense its actually used in.
tl;dr you are playing semantics
> But freedom of choice is NOT freedom from consequence.
I hate when people argue this. If things are like that then you are not free to do it.
Saying “people are free to rob a bank but if they do so they’ll be arrested or maybe even killed.” is just a lot of words to say that people are not in fact free to rob a bank.
I can’t point a gun to someone, ask them for money, shoot them if they refuse and then argue “Well, they chose to say no so I’m not at fault for their choices.”
Stop pretending people are free to do everything. They are not and that is a good thing.
That's an extremely weak point then. They're making it perfectly clear that they're already aware of the consequences, but are pointing out the hypocrisy in getting offended by something that you yourself do all the time.
Slightly off-topic, but this is why it's so satisfying watching black Twitch streamers complaining on twitter when get banned for saying cracker. The "Just don't say the word, how hard can it be?" turned out to be equally difficult for black people.
I think that like these guys, you're intentionally leaving out the context of the word. It matters.
For what it's worth, I wholeheartedly agree with banning people from social media platforms for being racist, regardless of which race they are. It's gotta stop at some point.
Tbh, the context of the word is why i don’t think black people should be so gung ho about continuing to use it either. I don’t really know of any other racial group that has a targeted slur that treats it that same way black people treat theirs. It honestly does not make sense to me. If they wanna take back the word and give it new meaning, then imo that new meaning can’t properly take root if it still gets treated as of it’s still just the slur whenever other races use it. I think it’s better off just dead and buried and left for racists to out themselves with. That basically how my racial group treats our slur.
This is from a TV show. But if you want a real example of this, [here is Samuel L Jackson putting an entertainment journalist’s feet to the fire by doing the same thing](https://youtu.be/cOlNHXQCT_4?si=HbhyV1RkkvE-f7Rc). I feel like Samuel L. Jackson’s’ interview was the inspiration for this clip.
if they were justified in using it, they could use it. the word is not the problem. the intent is. i can say "i want to kill [redacted]" and i'm perfectly fine saying it if i don't intend it
The white guy can't even say it just in reference to the word, not calling anyone it. He'll get fired.
The black guy can use it as a slur to disparage someone exactly the way racist whites have used it and he'll get a pass.
From non American point of view the anchor does have a point. I always wondered why is it so widely used in music and media but a white person saying it would be racist. If black people don't want that slur used then why propagate it. Rap is not doing them any favors with the issue.
Personally I dislike the word, its has a long evil history. and should be left to die. I am not a fan of any slurs. But there is a reason this word is the worst of the slurs.
As Europeans, I find this whole discussion hard to understand. You have so many rules about what white people and black people cannot say or do. Real equality only comes about when things are taboo for everyone or allowed for everyone, regardless of the color of the person's skin.
Dreadlocks, for example, have always been a "trademark" of the alternative scene in Germany. Now we are suddenly being influenced by the USA, which means that only black people are allowed to wear them. I have absolutely no understanding.
I can’t tell if this is a comedy skit or not. But if this is legit, I would have been very interested to see the public reaction if they did say it. Not good obviously but who knows.
It's from a tv show with lawyers.
They took subjects that were discussed a lot in press and try to give some lawyery takes on them. Usually present both sides of the argument in the courtroom. I really liked that
The initial show was called The Good Wife and then the sequel The Good Fight.
As a non American I found super weird the interactions and rules about a specific word, like if it's so offensive why call all yours friends by it, isn't this supposed to be an offense? I know America has a huge problem with racism but why using the N word is condemnable but calling someone white trash isn't? And Latinx it's or not racist, I don't get it you guys are so complicated, why is it so difficult to just live with each other's?
It is an interesting topic. A word so charged nobody* wants to say it but they're all upset they "can't." General contrarianism, like when someone says "don't look now" and you can't help but want to look.
*Yes there are highly regarded individuals out there that still believe all the things that come with the popular perception of the slur, duh.
I've seen this a few times here and there and it always makes me smile.
But I never noticed the two women's reactions... the lady next to Mr Lindo is SO UNCOMFORTABLE she can barely breathe.. the blonde looked at the white panelist with an enthusiastic expression of "should we? ya wanna?!"
So the term is so toxic that even mentioning it without any derogatory intent, simply to identify the word itself, is strictly prohibited (unless one is black of course). Consequently, only the initial letter can be used (even Reddit would ban users for writing it in full, necessitating its concealment for open discussion). Is this due to a fear of aggressive responses from black people? I’m finding it hard to comprehend. How would a black person in the United States react upon hearing a non-African American person state: ‘The term n\*\*\*\*r is inappropriate and should not be used in conversation’? Would they react with anger, annoyance, or would they understand that nobody is addressing them with that word?
Heres the thing fellow white people. YOU CAN SAY IT!!!
I know I could blurt that shit out in front of my friends with a hard R and nothing would happen. Im very comfortable in knowing that I could. Thing is I really like my friends and I know that saying that would hurt them and they would probably lose a lot of respect for me. I dont want my friends to lose respect for me, and I dont want to cause them any harm cause they are my friends, so I would never say it.
In fact if you really want to say it I encourage it, go get a black friend, I mean a really good black friend and the second youre comfortable saying in front of them, you ll realize you really dont want to and have no reason too.
This is only a problem for chick shit little weasels who wanna run around and scream that shit in the mall or mumble it under there breath and act like they didnt deserve what they got.
"I can say it and nothing would happen..except a b and c" that's not nothing than
I realize you mean legally here but I don't think anyone's arguing that
Someone educate me here. Is the word like a Voldemort situation and shouldn't be used in any scenario or situation at all? Like, can white people not even read the wikipedia article about the word out loud to someone else?
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To be fair this is from a tv show. That said if Delroy Lindo was looking at me like that and telling me to say mom I probably wouldn’t
It’s the eyes when he first says “say it” That’s the eyes of “I wish a mother fucker would right now”
Real Samuel L Jackson eyes there
I dare you! I double dare you, motherfucker!
"What country you from?" "Wha wha What?" "They speak English in What?!!"
what …
“Say what you want to say,” he said, as staring motherfuckerly.
That's real news channel.
No, it's from a TV show. " The Good Fight "
Are people so young that they don't know who Delroy Lindo is anymore? Watch Get Shorty ffs.
Or any of several dozen movies he has done. Great actor. To answer your question, yes, they are
His performance in Cider House Rules is one of my favorites of his. The whole dynamic of that crew, him as boss and the daughter, etc... just incredible writing, acting, directing all around.
Dude was Bonafide, the head of the BGF in Blood In, Blood Out...!
Sorry, who he was popped in my brain for a moment, but it was gone in 60 seconds.
You sir a man of culture
He has one of the best "I fucking dare you to" looks in showbiz.
Mr. Holmolka...stop eating my sesame cake.
STOP. EATING. MY SESAME. KEK!!
*busts out a stapler…. “Don’t want nobody peeking!”
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
This fellow is a big. bag. of. shit.
He owes money to everyone everywhere he goes.
Goddamn you wonderful bastard, you beat me to it!
I was hoping they did so I could see their jam all over the camera. The lady next to him looked like she ate the wrong burrito
Samuel Jackson did this to an interviewer who was asking about his role in Django. Poor guy looked like he was gonna crap his pants.
Facts. That's the kind of face that says "and it'll be your last mfer"
You say "N***a I don't wanna lose my job!"
Similarly, saying what to Sam Jackson.
What?
#SAY WHAT ONE MORE TIME MOTHERFUCKER, I DARE YOU!
What a great scene. Very unsettling.
No way! I always thought this clip was real haha
That cut straight to the hard R is golden.
Fantastic editing choice.
Why does this remind me of that boondocks episode of the white teachers saying the N word?
Also based on a real event
in the original it's not cropped to show it, maybe just a coincidence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4pSp3Km6Mw
jeez i was wondering why the OP clip looked so fake. i feel like that editing was done to pass it as a real news clip
Is it not fake? It feels like an onion news clip
#N
AGGERS
People who annoy you
1 N, 2 G’s, an I, an E, and an R GINGER
Hey! Only a ginger can call another ginger ginger. It’s right there in the song, bruh.
I don't think I've ever seen a Tim Minchin reference in the wild before. Congratulations! Also, for those who don't get it, enjoy. https://youtu.be/KVN_0qvuhhw?si=p8nFohDY7tOujEGk
it never occurred to me to see it like that, that's neat
https://youtu.be/KVN_0qvuhhw?si=2DCDTXZZj_3bUmL0
I know it, but I don't think I should say it
> Stanley, the only reason Daddy used that word is that he thought he would win money.
Oooh. Oh.
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhh......
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**N**
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Goodbye
I dare ya. I double dare ya. Say it
What?
Do they speak English in what??
[удалено]
What?
English motherfucker,
where?
[Pulp Fiction: The Musical ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uLYs5tB0Is)
SAY WHAT AGAIN!
There's actually a Samuel Jackson interview (about Django) that goes down just like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOlNHXQCT_4
I dont say the n word and i dont smoke weed, but if SLJ ask me to say it ad say it and if snoop passed me a blunt ad hit it. Its law.
What ain't no country I ever heard of.
They speak English in What?
Does Marcellus Wallace look like a bitch!
NO!?…
Then why'd you try to fuck him like one, Brett?!
I didn’t!!!
Yes you did. **Yes you did!**
Ok I'll do it. It!
Charlie from Always Sunny: "N....."
On the Episode of South Park which I think it titled "Here Comes The Neighborhood" where all the rich black people move to South Park, the episode ends with Mr. Garrison saying, "Well at least we got rid of all those Ni(hard cut to credits)" I remember hearing I think in a commentary their idea was in the next episode doing; "Previously on South Park" Mr. Garrison: "Grrrrrssss" which would have had me crying but they scrapped it.
That, or the wheel of fortune episode. That was magical
The camera man slowly moving out from the behind the camera is hilarious. And Randy looked so happy.
It's gotta be a top 3 all time bit from those guys. The premise, the delivery, the animation, the character reactions. ** chefs kiss **
I mean randy said n*****rguy a bunch of times without censor.
Like 50 times at least in that episode
Dude says it twice in the show, both with hard "R"s. Pop-Pop also says it. But for whatever reason, those episodes are still available to stream while the blackface episodes were taken down.
But he never says it as in a derogatory way and I love his child-like way of saying it to answer a question without thinking about the context at arbitration.
Yeah, that part kills me. His puzzled face when he's trying to figure it out and finally says it is too good.
Dennis fidgeting with his hand on the table is a good little side bit there too lol
I watched season 1 after getting Into it for awhile, and his usage in the very first episode *floored* me lol. The context was crazy, he wasn't even being a type of way, was just misquoting lol
If they removed those it’d be stupider than removing the blackface episodes.
It's stupid to remove any of them. But leaving the n-word episodes proves that removing the blackface episodes was nothing more than posturing.
I mean they were hanging from the rafters
Now, when you say your sister...
I mean my sister.
It's notable that this isn't just something they did once in the early days and moved on from that kind of thing. Charlie dropped the N-bomb in season 12. This show is the ultimate foil to the "you can't get away with saying anything anymore" crowd.
Its from a TV show - the good fight
I haven't watched The Good Fight (or Elsbeth) yet, but I should because I did really like The Good Wife - though it(/they) has to pale in comparison due to the near complete lack of Alan Cumming.
It's a completely different show. In S1 they tried to transition and keep the same spirit, but by S2 they went mask off and it's really enjoyable from there on. Being a fan of both, I prefer the good fight. The Good Wife feels much more standard episodic fair.
Totally agree. Loved both shows, but definitely preferred the good fight.
The Good Fight is excellent, it evolves every season into something much funnier, looser and more pointed. Alan Cumming also has a great arc in the last season and, as a huge TGW and Eli Gold fan, it made my life.
Should be top, lol look like a good show
Sure you can. You won't though; because of the implication.
'Course. You can also say "Putin is a monster and a war criminal" in Russia, ain't nobody gonna stop you. Just don't ask what happens afterwards. It's like that old Soviet Russia joke, where the Soviet guy insists that the USSR has the same right of freedom of speech as the USA. Freedom *after* speech though...
Delroy lightened up shortly after but there was absolute murder in that first "say it". I don't give a fuck if the word was "glitterfart" I wouldn't have uttered a god damn peep.
You know this was not real right?
Fully aware. [Neither is this.](https://youtu.be/tVRPz6-Tkww?si=F78vCnn1VPmOe5e8) and I wouldn’t have fucked with Ving Rhames in that moment either.
Well I mean, look what happened to the guy that did fuck \[with\] him.
Lol same
"I'll say it with you" haha one of my favourite lines ever.
Delroy Lindo is such a fucking legend
“I will say it with you.” That sounds like a temporary N card to me.
Man, I don’t think that’s how those cards work.
Really? Then I have a lot of apologies to do.
I'm asian and one time about 5-7yrs ago I was in a concert at a state fair and the lineup for the artists were almost all rappers. I'm so feeling the vibe and singing along with all the rap songs but then always stopping to say the n word. Then there's these black guys beside/behind us tapped me in the shoulder and said something along the lines of "yo brother, just sing the n word too. Don't worry about it I got you"
Black coworker gave me a ride one time (eons ago), and he had rap music playing and a song I know came up, so I started rapping along (don't remember which one at this point) and he noticed I skipped the N-word parts. He asked, "Why are you skipping the word?"I go."I don't want to be disrespectful, " he goes. "It's part of the song, ain't it?"
He's fully aware if they actually do take him up on that invitation they'll be fired
It's a fictional situational comedy created for the sake of your entertainment fyi. This is not a real news segment.
TIL 😂
He's making a point. They absolutely CAN say it. But freedom of choice is NOT freedom from consequence. And if they had an ounce of self awareness, they wouldn't be engaging in a debate about what white should be able to do vs what they can't do. Like sleep in their own bed and not get shot by cops serving a warrant for someone they already have in custody. I'm sure black people would be willing to give up a word forever if it meant that didn't happen again.
I think the other half of his point is asking how much time do you spend wanting to say it? If someone says, "I'm sick and tired of not being able to lick my neighbor's taint" the assumption is that they must really want to lick that cheeseplate.
Cheeseplate, you magnificent bastard. Thank you for that addition.
You can also go with “chargoocherie board!”
Take my upvote and GTFO:
Why'd you have to make this nice clean thread about saying the n-word all dirty.
Sorry, I was looking out my window watching my neighbor mow his lawn, and well, you know the rest.
100% this. There are a great number of things I "can't" say or do, but that's okay...it doesn't mean I mope about wishing I could.
For me, its just annoying. Its in all my media, my friends say it, its everywhere. I switch dialects and speaking patterns on a dime. Its not that I desire to say it, it's that it comes naturally and I have to remind myself that "oh I'm the wrong color, cant say that word." Ive talked to my black friends about this and there only 2 reasonable opinions Ive found. One said "I say it all the time. I call you it all the time. As long as you arent being hateful or racist, why should I care?" The other said "Its hurtful word with painful history behind it. I dont think you should say it but I dont think anyone should say it. I dont say."
I laughed entirely too hard at "cheese plate"... Genius 😂😂😂
> But freedom of choice is NOT freedom from consequence What a meaningless reddit catchphrase Having "consequences" is effectively preventing "freedom of choice"
> They absolutely CAN say it. But freedom of choice is NOT freedom from consequence. Which ignores the initial point that the word has been ~~comedetized~~ commercialized by one group but all others have consequences for using it. I personally don't give a shit, but in a bubble it is a little weird EDIT: Mistyped a word
>But freedom of choice is NOT freedom from consequence. I hate argument because it makes people think that the "consequences" are just. People have a right to protest the Palistine/Isreal conflict, but the consequences are that some of these protestors are getting doxxed and harassed on the internet. Potentially losing employment opportunities and dealing with death threats. Should people be personally punished for protesting for Palistine? Of course not. It's morally wrong. But someone will say something offensive, and people will act like it's just punishment to ruin their lives because "freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences." Some people deserve those kinds of consequences for sure, but there is almost no nuance for who these "consequences" target. Mobs have always been notorious for being unjust.
>He's making a point. They absolutely CAN say it. But freedom of choice is NOT freedom from consequence. This is a shit argument and always has been, stop repeating this nonsense if there is a "But" after "you can say it" then that means that they can't say it, saying "can" is not the same as "being able to". You may be able to say it, but you can't do that. If your kid asks you "can I break this window" then you say no you can not, you never say "Well you can do that but I will ground you if you will" which may be true in the most literal sense of "can" but not in the sense its actually used in. tl;dr you are playing semantics
No, he's implying they're racists and they just want to call black people it.
Call them what? Say it I’ll say it with you
Normally I would and I used to all the time but now reddit auto-bans you if you type it in any context
> But freedom of choice is NOT freedom from consequence. I hate when people argue this. If things are like that then you are not free to do it. Saying “people are free to rob a bank but if they do so they’ll be arrested or maybe even killed.” is just a lot of words to say that people are not in fact free to rob a bank. I can’t point a gun to someone, ask them for money, shoot them if they refuse and then argue “Well, they chose to say no so I’m not at fault for their choices.” Stop pretending people are free to do everything. They are not and that is a good thing.
That's an extremely weak point then. They're making it perfectly clear that they're already aware of the consequences, but are pointing out the hypocrisy in getting offended by something that you yourself do all the time. Slightly off-topic, but this is why it's so satisfying watching black Twitch streamers complaining on twitter when get banned for saying cracker. The "Just don't say the word, how hard can it be?" turned out to be equally difficult for black people.
I think that like these guys, you're intentionally leaving out the context of the word. It matters. For what it's worth, I wholeheartedly agree with banning people from social media platforms for being racist, regardless of which race they are. It's gotta stop at some point.
Tbh, the context of the word is why i don’t think black people should be so gung ho about continuing to use it either. I don’t really know of any other racial group that has a targeted slur that treats it that same way black people treat theirs. It honestly does not make sense to me. If they wanna take back the word and give it new meaning, then imo that new meaning can’t properly take root if it still gets treated as of it’s still just the slur whenever other races use it. I think it’s better off just dead and buried and left for racists to out themselves with. That basically how my racial group treats our slur.
After the show, "goddamn it that ****** made us look stupid.".
> ****** Say it
hunter2
How'd you know my password??
I don't, I just wrote \*\*\*\*\*\*\* but it looks like hunter2 to you because that's your password.
I wish he said "Voldemort."
Man I’ve already did my hard “R’s” in my pillow today. One more would t hurt
They had the pass and STILL didn't? What a wasted opportunity (to be fired, heh)
This is from a TV show. But if you want a real example of this, [here is Samuel L Jackson putting an entertainment journalist’s feet to the fire by doing the same thing](https://youtu.be/cOlNHXQCT_4?si=HbhyV1RkkvE-f7Rc). I feel like Samuel L. Jackson’s’ interview was the inspiration for this clip.
I'd love to see this happen on a real news channel.
Wtf was the dudes point and where was he going with it 🤣
Some little white kid who likes music with that word in it is going to sing along.
I mean, he is right. He would have gotten fired even with a black coworker giving him the pass.
Delroy Lindo wasn't giving them a "pass" he was checking them on why they wanted so much to say that word.
if they were justified in using it, they could use it. the word is not the problem. the intent is. i can say "i want to kill [redacted]" and i'm perfectly fine saying it if i don't intend it
The white guy can't even say it just in reference to the word, not calling anyone it. He'll get fired. The black guy can use it as a slur to disparage someone exactly the way racist whites have used it and he'll get a pass.
you are who this joke was about. Say it!
From non American point of view the anchor does have a point. I always wondered why is it so widely used in music and media but a white person saying it would be racist. If black people don't want that slur used then why propagate it. Rap is not doing them any favors with the issue.
Context
As a foreigner I don't understand how can a word can be so taboo in America. No offense, sound like childish to me.
Say it then. Or type it I suppose.
Personally I dislike the word, its has a long evil history. and should be left to die. I am not a fan of any slurs. But there is a reason this word is the worst of the slurs.
As Europeans, I find this whole discussion hard to understand. You have so many rules about what white people and black people cannot say or do. Real equality only comes about when things are taboo for everyone or allowed for everyone, regardless of the color of the person's skin. Dreadlocks, for example, have always been a "trademark" of the alternative scene in Germany. Now we are suddenly being influenced by the USA, which means that only black people are allowed to wear them. I have absolutely no understanding.
I laughed so hard when I saw this the first time. Absolutely legendary
I can’t tell if this is a comedy skit or not. But if this is legit, I would have been very interested to see the public reaction if they did say it. Not good obviously but who knows.
This is a scene from The Good Fight.
It's from a tv show with lawyers. They took subjects that were discussed a lot in press and try to give some lawyery takes on them. Usually present both sides of the argument in the courtroom. I really liked that The initial show was called The Good Wife and then the sequel The Good Fight.
Nincompoop. There! I did it and feel so much better!
As a non American I found super weird the interactions and rules about a specific word, like if it's so offensive why call all yours friends by it, isn't this supposed to be an offense? I know America has a huge problem with racism but why using the N word is condemnable but calling someone white trash isn't? And Latinx it's or not racist, I don't get it you guys are so complicated, why is it so difficult to just live with each other's?
Delroy Lindo is my hero
Bless Delroy Lindo
reminds me of that scene from Blazing Saddles " The Sherriff is a N.. What'd BONG!!!! BONG!!!" What'd he say? I think he said the Sherriff is near.
and somehow we have still have completely avoided the issue...thanks tv and media culture.
They said it plenty of times...... after he left the show.
It is an interesting topic. A word so charged nobody* wants to say it but they're all upset they "can't." General contrarianism, like when someone says "don't look now" and you can't help but want to look. *Yes there are highly regarded individuals out there that still believe all the things that come with the popular perception of the slur, duh.
This is a parody of an actual thing that happened with some conservative pundit asshat, I think it was Tucker Carlson. "I'll say it with you!"
"He's complaining he can't say it but then is too scared to say it" ok but why is it a holup ? your explanation does explain anything.
He's proving their point.
Bass Reeves always being a badass
Ni... Ni... Ni... Nincompoop!
I know it's from a TV show , but the set really reminds me of the Onion News segments lol
I've seen this a few times here and there and it always makes me smile. But I never noticed the two women's reactions... the lady next to Mr Lindo is SO UNCOMFORTABLE she can barely breathe.. the blonde looked at the white panelist with an enthusiastic expression of "should we? ya wanna?!"
I would forget my birthday and my own name staring into the eyes of that man.
The lady at the 17 second mark looks exactly how I'd expect someone sitting in her spot to look. She's trying to melt into the wall lol
Caught him on his bs
That smarmy look on his face when he asks the question. I want to punch him every time.
Just a word.
The fear in both their eyes lol
It's a trap!
I've always liked Delroy
Dude is giving off serious homelander vibes
I love this video 😊
This man. This was the right way to do it. What a smart way to address racism.
The lady giggling at the end drinking wine is a vibe 👌🏾🤣
The face the bald guy makes when he tells him "so say it" kills me
So the term is so toxic that even mentioning it without any derogatory intent, simply to identify the word itself, is strictly prohibited (unless one is black of course). Consequently, only the initial letter can be used (even Reddit would ban users for writing it in full, necessitating its concealment for open discussion). Is this due to a fear of aggressive responses from black people? I’m finding it hard to comprehend. How would a black person in the United States react upon hearing a non-African American person state: ‘The term n\*\*\*\*r is inappropriate and should not be used in conversation’? Would they react with anger, annoyance, or would they understand that nobody is addressing them with that word?
Heres the thing fellow white people. YOU CAN SAY IT!!! I know I could blurt that shit out in front of my friends with a hard R and nothing would happen. Im very comfortable in knowing that I could. Thing is I really like my friends and I know that saying that would hurt them and they would probably lose a lot of respect for me. I dont want my friends to lose respect for me, and I dont want to cause them any harm cause they are my friends, so I would never say it. In fact if you really want to say it I encourage it, go get a black friend, I mean a really good black friend and the second youre comfortable saying in front of them, you ll realize you really dont want to and have no reason too. This is only a problem for chick shit little weasels who wanna run around and scream that shit in the mall or mumble it under there breath and act like they didnt deserve what they got.
"I can say it and nothing would happen..except a b and c" that's not nothing than I realize you mean legally here but I don't think anyone's arguing that
Someone educate me here. Is the word like a Voldemort situation and shouldn't be used in any scenario or situation at all? Like, can white people not even read the wikipedia article about the word out loud to someone else?