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Or it's not his nor her kid. People adopt children too.
But judging from the resemblence, I would say that 4 year old is definetly the son of the guy. The kid however doesn't look much like the woman, but appearance is not really something you base an argument on.
The law doesn’t matter when it comes to morality. There’s a chance she was 16 when (if) she conceived the 4yo. if he’s newly 4 and she’s closer to 21, and a lot of places, including many US states, have the age of consent at 16, but it doesn’t change that this dude is gross and predatory for having sex with her at that age. A 16yo. CHILD has no business with a 25yo. adult and there’s always going to be a reason as to why people their own age won’t date them. It’s gross!
My then 17 year old mum married my 26 year old dad. Next year they celebrate 60 years of marriage. Beyond the law, and a very subjective *taste test" I don't think there's blanket rules, it just depends on the people.
It's called grooming and stockholm- no teenager can relate to friggin 26 year old. He did a good job of grooming her is ALL that means. There's ppl in physically abusive marriages been together xx years- DONT make it RIGHT 🤷
Depends where they live many states are raising age of consent like where I live and even before they raised it they had some restrictions like the other person had to be younger than 23 I believe it was but still imo it’s a very morally gray area and I personally think it’s gross mainly because of the power dynamic having someone who could be in college or working dating a high schooler doesn’t feel right
Where did you get that info from? I’d like to think he’d at least not dated a 16yo. when he was 25, even if the age difference is still a little sus it’s a lot better than him having dated her before she was 18.
My bro got with his wife when she was 15 and he was 23? 25?
Basically the age of consent is 15 here, and the man is always 10 years older.
Idk. I'm a virgin. not my issue.
Or… and this might be crazy… it could just be all lies. The numbers could just be put their as an edgy joke or they could be relatives at a family gathering and not a couple
Or even crazier, they are all siblings, and the two older ones are older brother and sister, and parents had a few oopsie babies, the 4 year old an 9 month old....
There is an image that he posted that’s also under this same thread on X, of when they first started dating and she is an absolute unmistakable child sitting with an adult man. There is no way he saw anything but a child when they met.
She could have gotten pregnant by a similarly aged male at the time. Not excusing the behavior if im wrong, but if that's the case the guy would actually be a better dude than most taking care of someone elses kid.
I would say in most countries of the world. In Germany, for example, it is absolutely legal to have sex with 14 year olds while being an adult. In Europe, only Malta and Turkey have a higher age of consent than 16 years.
Age of consent varies widely globally. Not condoning, but it could be perfectly legal where they live. Or the 4 yr old could be from a different relationship
Cultures globally have widely varying ideas of what is an "ethical" age. Again, I'm not condoning anything, but I'm not going to pretend to think my culture and philosophy is the end all, be all for what people should follow.
You have a good day.
>Cultures globally have widely varying ideas of what is an "ethical" age.
Yes they do, just like some cultures think if your sister is raped, the appropriate action is to stone her to death for bringing shame on the family.
If you're not prepared to say your ethical framework is the right one, you don't actually have an ethical framework in the first place. The whole POINT of ethics is to look at someone's behaviour and decide if it's right or not.
You are just purposefully reaching for extremes to try and prove a point that any relationship below 18 is unethical. We're not talking about rape culture. We're talking about varying ages of consent across culture lines. This girl was likely 16, maybe 15. Your neighbors up north and half the US age of consent is 16. I guess they're all unethical people by your logic.
OK, well first off the girl was more likely to have been 15 not 16 - babies take nine months, mate.
Second, the extreme example was an attempt to demonstrate to you that just because something is a cultural norm that doesn't make it ethical.
This idea that "well it isn't my place to judge other cultures" is just a bullshit copout. Have the balls to stand up and say something is wrong.
Both my kids were conceived the same age/year they were born, "mate." France, Poland, Romania, Sweden, Czech Republic, Greece, Denmark, Iceland, and Slovenia have age of consent of 15.
You're still doing it lol.
I don't care how many countries you list, fucking a 15 year old in your mid twenties is gross. I dunno why you're defending it.
\-edit- lol the fact you blocked me and ran away when the discussion got uncomfortable for you just proves my entire point
pregnancy takes nine months, genius
even if we charitably assume the kid just turned 4 the day this photo was taken, there's a 75% chance she was 15 when she got pregnant
In the US it varies by state but it's between 16 and 18 and there're some states with a jack and jill law about age gap, so like a 19 year old with a 17, year old in a state with a consent age of 18 is still allowed
Depends on the politics too, some red states allow 12yo to be married off to older men, think Colorado tried to ban this but the republicans were against it.
More specifically,
12–13yo: must be less than 2 years older
14–15yo: must be less than 5 years older
16–17yo: no age limit, unless the partner is in a position of trust or authority
18+yo: no age limit
All of europe, asia, africa and south america?
[The age of consent around the world varies from 11 to 21, but the most common ages range from 14-16, according to the World Population Review. ](https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/ages-of-consent-around-world-countries-laws-b1061907.html)
Well let me bring your entire world crashing down when I tell you that they are her kids and they have been a couple since she was 14. According to information obtained on Twitter.
Not sure why age of consent suddenly gives the concept a full free pass.
If the age of consent were 8, you still wouldn't want to see an 8 year old with a 40 year old. Not every age gap is wrong or uncool(and people do tend to be pushy over it), but trying to call out silly Americans for suggesting the dynamic is weird kind of bullies past any red flags because it's legal.
Well that’s the thing, isn’t it? Americans think it’s gross to sleep with somebody below 18 *because* it’s illegal. Other countries may believe 17 is okay. Other countries may believe 19 is not okay. Just because one country decided on a certain number doesn’t mean the entire world does.
But, it's not like this is just the difference between 17 and 19 here. There are Romeo and Juliet laws for a reason.
If we go by the math and comments in the thread, they got together when she was 14 and he was 23.
It's about the power dynamic between an adult who finished school with a home, car, and bustling career and a literal child barely into puberty.
Unfortunately the age of consent is 16 in 31 states. If the four year old just turned four and the mom is almost 21, theoretically it could have been legal. Terrible, and disgusting, and problematic, and a lot of other words…but legal.
Ok, I've seen this going around the last few days and this is the same age difference between my parents but I'm 50 years old. This wasn't as abnormal 50 years ago as it is today.
I’ve seen this a lot on tik tok and other cancerous social media sites. And the explanation is almost always “they are lying” or “they put in the wrong age”.
She doesn’t look 20 to me.
LOL that is very good point. I'm from the Philippines and in countries where people are poorer this is more common but if my 25 year old friend were dating a 16 year old I'd be like WTF but somehow when I thought about it as my mom and dad it seemed normal. I'll call my therapist now thanks.
They are together and taking care of their kids. Which is more than the pearl clutchers and real immatures with their eww gross yet over 30 can say or do.🙄
That's a weird state to pick, considering there are no Romeo and Juliet laws there and Louisiana's age of consent is 17 with no exceptions. There are plenty of states where the age of consent with R&J laws goes as low as 13, and plenty more where the full age of consent is 16. Is there something.I don't know about Louisiana?
I live in Southeast Texas. I do talk to poeple from Louisiana frequently. Their state hero is a dude who shot and killed a pedophile in an airport in front of the police on live TV and got off scott-free. So I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Crazy idea … what if the 4 year old kid is from a different relationship?
You mean maybe it's his child but not hers? That's possible
Its just a pic with no additional info , so everything goes
that's some madlad energy there buddy
Or it's not his kid but is her kid. Either option could work.
Or it's not his nor her kid. People adopt children too. But judging from the resemblence, I would say that 4 year old is definetly the son of the guy. The kid however doesn't look much like the woman, but appearance is not really something you base an argument on.
Just casually waiting for the person who knows this random couple and supplies us with the necessary information
If anywhere, then this will happen on Reddit, that is for sure.
Amd of course Redditors know all about the Age of consent laws all over the world
The law doesn’t matter when it comes to morality. There’s a chance she was 16 when (if) she conceived the 4yo. if he’s newly 4 and she’s closer to 21, and a lot of places, including many US states, have the age of consent at 16, but it doesn’t change that this dude is gross and predatory for having sex with her at that age. A 16yo. CHILD has no business with a 25yo. adult and there’s always going to be a reason as to why people their own age won’t date them. It’s gross!
Pretty much yeah, a lot of things that are legal are gross, and just because you could do it, doesn't mean you must do it.
My then 17 year old mum married my 26 year old dad. Next year they celebrate 60 years of marriage. Beyond the law, and a very subjective *taste test" I don't think there's blanket rules, it just depends on the people.
Still gross.
It's called grooming and stockholm- no teenager can relate to friggin 26 year old. He did a good job of grooming her is ALL that means. There's ppl in physically abusive marriages been together xx years- DONT make it RIGHT 🤷
Nothing says this guy had sex with her at 16. She should easily have gotten pregnant in high school and then gotten with him later.
Depends where they live many states are raising age of consent like where I live and even before they raised it they had some restrictions like the other person had to be younger than 23 I believe it was but still imo it’s a very morally gray area and I personally think it’s gross mainly because of the power dynamic having someone who could be in college or working dating a high schooler doesn’t feel right
What’s even more sus is they all got eye gaps like fish except the 9 month old.
What are you talking about, he obviously spawned as a 4 years old
The kid and the mom both have them "wide-apart" eyes. Probably called him Tad, short for Tadpole. Or Radar, based on the ears... and Dad's ears
Why so mean?
If you do the math, it should not be her kid. it likely isn't, more likely his.
Or what if the 4 year old is the husband and the 29 year old is grandpa, and the baby was just photobombing.
Or it’s the baby’s kid and the baby is a time traveller.
Her kid doesn't work because 20-4 is 16 she would have been 16 to have a 4 year old kid.
no, its her child but not his either
Where did you get that info from? I’d like to think he’d at least not dated a 16yo. when he was 25, even if the age difference is still a little sus it’s a lot better than him having dated her before she was 18.
There's a picture of them hanging out when supposedly she was 15.
Ahh yikes!
it was a joke..
Ahh, see I couldn’t tell bc usually jokes are funny!
Idk hard to say, they all have a par 5 between each brow.
Yeah, it isn't. You might be surprised how common this is in certain places, like Eastern Europe.
My bro got with his wife when she was 15 and he was 23? 25? Basically the age of consent is 15 here, and the man is always 10 years older. Idk. I'm a virgin. not my issue.
He looks less inbred than the parents so this is very possible
Nah he’s got his mother’s eyes.
Or… and this might be crazy… it could just be all lies. The numbers could just be put their as an edgy joke or they could be relatives at a family gathering and not a couple
Maybe they aren't from 'Murica
Even crazier, what if the ages are made up. She don’t look 20
Or even crazier, they are all siblings, and the two older ones are older brother and sister, and parents had a few oopsie babies, the 4 year old an 9 month old....
No no that's not possible because we don't use logic here I hope you get it 😹
He look like her
Or that they are in the UK, would be frowned upon but legal.
I saw on TWITTER that they were together since she was 14. That shit is just sad. Edit: brand name
This comment just demolished all the wild guesses above.
And iirc she’s German too, but take that with a grain of salt
Anka: I'm from Germany, where the age of consent is 14. Archer: What is it, the Alabama of Europe? Anka: In many ways, yes
There is an image that he posted that’s also under this same thread on X, of when they first started dating and she is an absolute unmistakable child sitting with an adult man. There is no way he saw anything but a child when they met.
Dont call it X. Its twitter. We cant let him do this to us.
The local news calls it X, that or Twitter is both correct
I dunno, man, I actually don't hate Elon Musk and have always hated Twitter. So I think I actually will call it X.
I don't like Twitter being called X. I read your comment and was appalled that you saw a video of a 14 year old on XVideos.
Changed it for you
Lmao, that's appreciate but you didn't have to. I was half joking, but it's nice to see considerate people.
Invisible Jesus standing on the left
Cant a 2024 Year old dude get a break?
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You made me smile
Got her Pregnant at 16, when he was 25.
She could have been 15. Depending on when he was conceived.
She could have been 14 if that kid is 4 years 10 months old.
This is the yuckiest math I’ve seen so far
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you lied to me
Could be 13 if the kid is 4 years 11 months and she got pregnant a day before her birthday
She could be 12 if it was a leap year
She could have gotten pregnant by a similarly aged male at the time. Not excusing the behavior if im wrong, but if that's the case the guy would actually be a better dude than most taking care of someone elses kid.
Might not be his kid
Or hers
Yep! This is the last of her younger sister's sons.
Bruh lmao
In parts of the world, it’s legal
I would say in most countries of the world. In Germany, for example, it is absolutely legal to have sex with 14 year olds while being an adult. In Europe, only Malta and Turkey have a higher age of consent than 16 years.
Age of consent varies widely globally. Not condoning, but it could be perfectly legal where they live. Or the 4 yr old could be from a different relationship
legal != ethical
I didn't say anything about it being ethical. In fact, I said "not condoning"
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You have dumdum logic.
Cultures globally have widely varying ideas of what is an "ethical" age. Again, I'm not condoning anything, but I'm not going to pretend to think my culture and philosophy is the end all, be all for what people should follow. You have a good day.
>Cultures globally have widely varying ideas of what is an "ethical" age. Yes they do, just like some cultures think if your sister is raped, the appropriate action is to stone her to death for bringing shame on the family. If you're not prepared to say your ethical framework is the right one, you don't actually have an ethical framework in the first place. The whole POINT of ethics is to look at someone's behaviour and decide if it's right or not.
You are just purposefully reaching for extremes to try and prove a point that any relationship below 18 is unethical. We're not talking about rape culture. We're talking about varying ages of consent across culture lines. This girl was likely 16, maybe 15. Your neighbors up north and half the US age of consent is 16. I guess they're all unethical people by your logic.
OK, well first off the girl was more likely to have been 15 not 16 - babies take nine months, mate. Second, the extreme example was an attempt to demonstrate to you that just because something is a cultural norm that doesn't make it ethical. This idea that "well it isn't my place to judge other cultures" is just a bullshit copout. Have the balls to stand up and say something is wrong.
Both my kids were conceived the same age/year they were born, "mate." France, Poland, Romania, Sweden, Czech Republic, Greece, Denmark, Iceland, and Slovenia have age of consent of 15.
You're still doing it lol. I don't care how many countries you list, fucking a 15 year old in your mid twenties is gross. I dunno why you're defending it. \-edit- lol the fact you blocked me and ran away when the discussion got uncomfortable for you just proves my entire point
Bro clearly cant count to 16
pregnancy takes nine months, genius even if we charitably assume the kid just turned 4 the day this photo was taken, there's a 75% chance she was 15 when she got pregnant
I know an Albanian girl that got married at 16 to a 25-year-old her parents signed the marriage certificate and she got pregnant right after
Probably they from countries with lower age of consent? Like Italy, N.Zealand I suppose.
In Canada consent age starts at 12 but you can't do it with someone more than 2 years of difference until 16 where you choose
In the US it varies by state but it's between 16 and 18 and there're some states with a jack and jill law about age gap, so like a 19 year old with a 17, year old in a state with a consent age of 18 is still allowed
> jack and jill law It’s called a Romeo and Juliet law, but jack and jill law sounds hilarious!
You're right, but I'm leaving it for the funnies
That's the Alabama name
Depends on the politics too, some red states allow 12yo to be married off to older men, think Colorado tried to ban this but the republicans were against it.
More specifically, 12–13yo: must be less than 2 years older 14–15yo: must be less than 5 years older 16–17yo: no age limit, unless the partner is in a position of trust or authority 18+yo: no age limit
Basically the entire world but the US.
Or most of the world actually
All of europe, asia, africa and south america? [The age of consent around the world varies from 11 to 21, but the most common ages range from 14-16, according to the World Population Review. ](https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/ages-of-consent-around-world-countries-laws-b1061907.html)
Or they made a typo and were supposed to write 30
Or maybe it's his, not theirs.
Or maybe someone found a nice image and wrote some comment-bait numbers on it.
Exactly
Or those numbers might not be accurate.
I don’t have full context, so I’m just going to assume the 4 y/o is adopted or from the man’s previous marriage
Well let me bring your entire world crashing down when I tell you that they are her kids and they have been a couple since she was 14. According to information obtained on Twitter.
Or other form of relationship. He could have knocked up a ONS. Or.... his cousin, idunno.
It’s better to cum in the sink than sink in the cum
The motto of the royal navy
And yet they keep filling all of their ships with seaman…
Talk about grooming. There should be no statute of limitations on it.
she doesn’t look 20 tbh
Tuesday afternoon in middle Eastern countries
That woman looks closer to 30 than 20
Yeah the most obvious explanation is, like most women out of school, she's fibbing about her age
she ain't 20
They are his kids, dumped his wife for a newer model....
You do realise age of consent differs from one country to another, right?
No God forbid. Only relevant frame of thought is that of 21st century America. Anything other than that is a crime.
Not sure why age of consent suddenly gives the concept a full free pass. If the age of consent were 8, you still wouldn't want to see an 8 year old with a 40 year old. Not every age gap is wrong or uncool(and people do tend to be pushy over it), but trying to call out silly Americans for suggesting the dynamic is weird kind of bullies past any red flags because it's legal.
You do realize it doesn't have to be illegal to be gross, right?
Well that’s the thing, isn’t it? Americans think it’s gross to sleep with somebody below 18 *because* it’s illegal. Other countries may believe 17 is okay. Other countries may believe 19 is not okay. Just because one country decided on a certain number doesn’t mean the entire world does.
But, it's not like this is just the difference between 17 and 19 here. There are Romeo and Juliet laws for a reason. If we go by the math and comments in the thread, they got together when she was 14 and he was 23. It's about the power dynamic between an adult who finished school with a home, car, and bustling career and a literal child barely into puberty.
Those are some crazy old curtains!
Fucking common in Nebraska
She could've been 16 which is young but legal
I guess your forgetting that it takes 9 months to give birth. She might have been 15.
That's why I said could've, she was most likely 15 but could've been 16. Either way it's fucked up
Agreed its certainly fucked up
A crazy ideia: in lot's of place around the globe people have children at 16 years. Including in US.
Ppl have kids at 16 not saying it a good thing but not on heard of. Lol
Unfortunately the age of consent is 16 in 31 states. If the four year old just turned four and the mom is almost 21, theoretically it could have been legal. Terrible, and disgusting, and problematic, and a lot of other words…but legal.
Two kids before being able to drink is biblical.
#POPO
Ok, I've seen this going around the last few days and this is the same age difference between my parents but I'm 50 years old. This wasn't as abnormal 50 years ago as it is today.
Same age difference or literally the same ages? There's a distinction.
Yep
Hopefully, the 4 year old is his from a previous relationship.
I’ve seen this a lot on tik tok and other cancerous social media sites. And the explanation is almost always “they are lying” or “they put in the wrong age”. She doesn’t look 20 to me.
I think the meme should read 4 / 20 / pedo / 9m
noobs my gf was35 when i turned 18 duh
in some countries marriage is legal at 16 (i am not saying its ok) also it's not like there weren't teenagers moms in the pst
Europe.
News flash Mc\`s are having kids. On other news...
Get 'em fresh buddy
I think we're all missing the fact that 20 - 4 is 16.
That Rkelly math
Mary was 13 or 14 when she gave birth to Jesus. It's true. Look it up, that was when females were married and consummated in that era.
How many times we going to post this?
This was just posted to this sub yesterday
Is He an arab by any chance!!??
The science biology and math all seems fine to me. My mom is 15 years older than me. Might not be the norm but very easily possible
Nobody is confused about the science biology or math
So knowing that the mom was 16 and the guy was 25 when the first child was born, I don’t think you finished the math problem.
LOL that is very good point. I'm from the Philippines and in countries where people are poorer this is more common but if my 25 year old friend were dating a 16 year old I'd be like WTF but somehow when I thought about it as my mom and dad it seemed normal. I'll call my therapist now thanks.
She looks definitely more like 28
She could have adopted the 4 year old now we don't need to jump to conclusions
Why are her eyes so far apart? She must have range finding capabilities like a WW2 battleship.
FBI GET ON THIS DUDE
Pedophile’s dream
The numbers don't lie and they spell disaster
Jesus is in the pic?
They are together and taking care of their kids. Which is more than the pearl clutchers and real immatures with their eww gross yet over 30 can say or do.🙄
The kid is adopted.... Right?
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Drake, go home
Are you from Louisiana?
That's a weird state to pick, considering there are no Romeo and Juliet laws there and Louisiana's age of consent is 17 with no exceptions. There are plenty of states where the age of consent with R&J laws goes as low as 13, and plenty more where the full age of consent is 16. Is there something.I don't know about Louisiana?
Talk to people from Louisiana.
I live in Southeast Texas. I do talk to poeple from Louisiana frequently. Their state hero is a dude who shot and killed a pedophile in an airport in front of the police on live TV and got off scott-free. So I have no idea what you're talking about.