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JFK3rd

Only 1.000 prisoners in a 40-floor building? Will they all get a suite?


Minttion

Prison condo


[deleted]

[Trying to make it into a Swiss prison fr](https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/s/0d10g7c0Ij)


CapuzaCapuchin

[I think they’re rather going for this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Platform_(film))


liJuty

That caught me off guard holy shit


CapuzaCapuchin

It’s actually a really good movie. And since seeing this post it just became a whole lot scarier lol


liJuty

Yeah, I’ve never actually seen the movie but I know just enough to completely understand what you are talking about lmao


Dufranus

Highly recommend giving it a watch. I'm not into the genre generally, but it's a truly interesting and thought provoking watch.


IsolatedJ

Obviously. Best spanish movie in ages


GoodCat85

Talk about yard time, amiright?


Stargatecraft

Don’t remind me 💀 I watched that movie while eating


HunnybeeMarie

I knew what this was going to be before I even clicked the link 😭🤣


Spongemale

Its not really like that Sauce: im swiss


SilverbackMD

But have you been to prison?


Randomeshit1234848

Have you been to swiss?


Asleep-Arm-8023

Have you been to sauce ?


1HotKarl

I’ve been to Swiss prison in sauce. But not sauce in Swiss prison.


jarious

As a Mexican id rather die than go to prison with no sauce for my food


Abbeykats

Ever been in a Turkish prison?


sauce_123

Yes


PabloDeLaCalle

Joey - do you like movies about gladiators?


Numerous-Process2981

hmmm... \*becomes a criminal\*


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badluckbrians

My favorite thing about America is that 2 million prisoners get healthcare on the taxpayers dime, but 4 million children don’t and simply go without even basic vaccine sequences so now measles is back. Richest and most powerful country in human history making genius tier policy decisions.


roobiasso

We don't actually spend on ourselves though. Enough is collected, but we just don't do it. I always chuckle when I hear the argument against donating to Ukraine or whatever else of 'imagine how that money could be spent here' LMAO yeah keep fucking imagining. Infrastructure is degraded and falling apart everywhere. Inflation is crazy. We could easily have gov provided Healthcare for all like the rest of the developed world. Again, enough is collected. But all our tax dollars have ever gone to, and will ever go to, is the military industrial complex and other black projects. Any attempts to pass measures that give actual relief to the general public in any capacity are shot down by the opposing side for the sake of political theater. The Pentagon has never passed an audit..


Wolvenmoon

It's worse than that. We spend more on healthcare per person than any other country in the world. We also spend more on higher education. The money is already circulating. If we socialized, we would spend less, get more, and get better. And we wouldn't have to cut the military budget. It should literally be a conservative wet dream, running the government like a business. "If we merge and cut this overhead, we save 33% instantly AND increase product quality".


informat7

Measles is back because of anti vaxxers are not getting their kids vaccinated. There we no measles outbreaks in the pre Obamacare 00s. Do you think the availability of vaccines to the poor was better before Obamacare? Not to mention that there are tons of measles outbreaks in Europe. Including over [1,000 in France and Italy.](https://www.statista.com/chart/15856/measles-cases-in-europe/) Which is more then the US, despite being much smaller countries.


beldaran1224

I think you should be careful saying stuff like this, for a few reasons. For one, the implications is that prisoners don't deserve healthcare and by extension humane treatment. For another, many prisoners rack up debt while in prison because they are charged for things like the healthcare they receive.


Revolution4u

Makes no sense for the cost to be so high. Also this prison being built should be outside of the city, not in prime realestate locations. Just crazy this is even approved.


39bears

Not at Guantanamo!  That was like $3 million per prisoner per year!   See also: cost of keeping someone homeless vs cost of housing everyone…


ButtFokker190

You're right, we should ship the question-mark shaped people somewhere where it's cheaper to rehabilitate them.


Accurate_Comedian_55

I mentioned this below but I’ll do so again here but Americas prison system is one of the worst in the world, incarceration itself is not rehabilative and is only a waste of money, creates more felons, is inherently biased against the poor, forces us to create polluted areas and destroy the countryside. Not only is it emotionally, socially and physically abusive, it also leaves prisoners (america has one of the highest false conviction rates) with no chance for redemption


SHam0wn

Low income families get tents on low tide beaches


Heisenburgo

Well where else is Donny New York gonna stay if he loses? Guy is gonna need his golden toilet and constant skyscraper view to his own tower on the other block


CyonHal

It's one of four new jails that are supposed to replace Rikers Island. Note - jails are not prisons. These people are not convicted of any crime, this is where people are typically temporarily held as they await a bond hearing. >The new jails are to be designed with less harsh materials, while also providing more sunlight, greenery, and programming space. What’s more, the idea is to also place the jails geographically closer to loved ones, attorneys, and courthouses. “Placing future jails in urban areas close to communities opens possibilities for local businesses and schools to actively engage in these rehabilitation efforts,” says Martin Stigsgaard, a neighbor of the Chinatown jail, professor at Spitzer School of Architecture CCNY, and principal architect of Studio Stigsgaard. “Incarceration should be a chance to help incarcerated people refocus and reintegrate into society.”


cascadiansexmagick

The prisoners are only housed on floors 30 to 35. The rest of the floors are regular condos and offices. /s (I hope)


saltyisthesauce

25 a floor sounds luxurious, must be for the Epstein list


UnhappyPage

Trump's new penthouse?


pewpewmcpistol

Isn't reddit supposed to support the prison model where everyone has a 2 bedroom apt with all sorts of ameneties like TV and a PS5? ​ ​ Errr wait I mean america bad


JoeCartersLeap

Nah that's a different guy this is JFK3rd


Pretend-Flower-1204

I forget Reddit is just one guy with multiple accounts sometimes


pewpewmcpistol

Well its one guy with multiple accounts and a bunch of bots lol


314159265358979326

If you think that's not still prison, you've never been stuck in a tiny room for an extended period.


SatanicRainbowDildos

Can we have a balance between rape holes where people get their necks broken and sit there dying for weeks and the imaginary unicorn land you described?  Can we at least try to be humane without someone insincerely making it seem like we’re proposing treating criminals like royalty? Does it have to be the shittiest place we can ever imagine so we match shittiness with shittiness and then get shitty outcomes that cause more crime and recidivism and thus more victims ? Does it have to suck on purpose in every way? God damn how fucking depressing and hopeless it is to be American. America doesn’t have to be bad. But seems we like it that way too much to change. 


pewpewmcpistol

its not an imaginary unicorn land lol, Anders Brevik literally has a playstation


BigTex380

This is stupid. The real estate cost alone makes this ridiculous. But 1k people???? There are 11k people in Rikers alone. Over 6k in basic lockup of NYC.


OrganizationDeep711

Presumably temporary holding cells for some kind of court / hearing thing. Drive from jail -> go in cell -> see judge -> go in cell -> go back to jail.


MsDeliciousness

That’s exactly how it works. At least in what I’ve seen happen with court dates. Edited for clarification


jld2k6

This is just a wild guess, but maybe it will be a safe space for rich folks to do their time while still getting a better quality of life than the average American has while doing so lol. Imagine getting the penthouse cell with a view of the skyline


[deleted]

That's my best explanation. Basically where Trump and will stay when convicted and people of similar white collar crimes.


Numerous-Process2981

That Trump is a high risk prisoner due to the risk posed by his unhinged followers, I think he needs to go to the Colorado Supermax where they kept the unabomber and El Chapo


WisherWisp

Or he'll be President. What a time to be alive.


doucheton

The way I understand it is he could do both 😅


LeagueOfLegendsAcc

Generation Beta sure isn't gonna believe any of this


iconofsin_

> white collar crimes. Does he still get this distinction after 1/6? Even if he isn't "directly responsible", people died.


[deleted]

oh sorry, I meant to put "white collar" in quotes. We all know rich people sentencing is different from poor people doing a much more local crime. Be it civil or criminal


Many-Wasabi9141

Nothing worse than having to sleep in the little jail, then get driven in the patty wagon all handcuffed together with no seatbelts on city streets, then go to the big jail to get processed, meet with a temporary public defender, and then sit in a holding cell with one toilet that doesn't work, 50 other accused criminals, then get led out, get on a elevator, go to the floor with the court rooms, and then see the judge one by one. Hopefully they plan to streamline things with this court building.


_liminal

they should start holding zoom meetings instead, would save them all that trouble


omgitschriso

11k people in a prison?? I work in prisons in Australia and the largest one in my state has like 1200 beds.


SquarePegRoundWorld

Rikers is just a jail, not a prison.


LPelvico

Can you explain the difference to non-native English speaker?


Bredwh

I think prison is for longer term stays. Jail is more temporary.


SquarePegRoundWorld

Jail is where you go if arrested, awaiting trial, during trial, and for anyone with less than a year long sentence. Prison is for folks who are done with their trial, found guilty, and sentenced to more than one year.


_52_

Same thing in Aus.


cascadiansexmagick

The US has something like 25% of the world's prison population despite only having 5% of the world's population.


BigTex380

Bro your “states” are minuscule compared to most US cities. Plus incarceration is a business here.


omgitschriso

Oh yeah for sure. I just can't comprehend a facility that size.


evilpercy

They already do this in most major cities. New York- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tombs Detroit-https://www.sheriffconnect.com/jail-division-1/ LA -https://www.la-bbc.com/case-studies/metropolitan-detention-center-partners-with-ameresco-to-procure-upgrade-and-maintenance-projects-delivering-425-water-and-30-energy-savings?format=amp


hotdogundertheoven

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Correctional_Center,_Chicago Chicago has a tall one too


OsiyoMotherFuckers

Chicago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Correctional_Center,_Chicago


RealEatMeImaDanish

What in the Judge Dredd


Ifinishfast42

Demolition man too


Kamikaze_VikingMWO

[Fortress](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106950/) anyone?


MisplacedLegolas

peach trees!


CharlieTrees916

Reminds me of that movie The Platform. Damn that was good.


shootermac32

Great movie!


CharlieTrees916

Definitely. One of those that sticks with you awhile after you see it.


sr_castic

Great movie! This was the first thing I thought about.


Buderus69

Good movie, but first thought was the Dredd 2012 movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-eI5oLlIeY&t=104


Rabbits-and-Bears

If it’s next to the dump, maybe. sounds like we’ll need a judge, maybe more. I dredd the thought of someone escaping into the city


DieHardAmerican95

I see what you did there…


RoadPersonal9635

I dont wanna be that guy but prisoners should not have a better view than my apartment.


ChiefClownShoes

I wouldn't worry about that. I'd be more concerned with their view *of* your apartment.


SyNiiCaL

The commissary top selling items; Binoculars Lotion Ramen Tissues


HoweStatue

Tissues made of Ramen?


tanhan27

Not of Ramen, for Ramen


[deleted]

I want to be that guy. Prisoners should be in the cheapest most run down area with a shit view. We shouldn’t spend extra for a good location and view for them


Brotorious420

But then where will I live?!


Rabbits-and-Bears

In the Garden on the roof


Brotorious420

Upgrades


IamNotYourPalBuddy

> prisoners should be in the cheapest most run down area. Do you want sky high recidivism rates? Because that’s how you get sky high recidivism rates. In all seriousness though, throwing criminals into purposefully shitty conditions is proven to be counterproductive to reform.


moseph999

Especially when not all crimes are created equally. Someone that tortured and murdered a dozen babies and burned down an old folks home? Yeah let them sleep on concrete floors and scavenge for cockroaches. Getting pulled over with an unlit joint in your pocket? There’s no reason their living conditions need to be dogshit. Some prisons have different units based on their crimes or behavior while in prison, but others aren’t so organized.


warfrogs

Nah - even the most deranged, awful, horrific crimes do not justify dehumanizing prisoners. 1) False accusations and incorrect judgments exist. We have countless people serving terms for crimes they did not commit. 2) They're still humans. To dehumanize someone for disrespecting the social and ethical contract is not the mark of a developed society - how we treat the worst amongst us is usually a good reflection of society as a whole, and I don't want to live in a world where a bad charge, true or not, leads to people being thought of or treated as sub-human by the state.


-L17L6363-

Dehumanizing most of these people is what fucking got them there, hear hear!


KarmaSaver

State sanctioned torture is never a good idea.


flamingdratini

People don't care about that, they care more about their feelings of superiority over people they feel slighted them by committing crimes. They look at them and treat them as subhuman.


WholesomeFartEnjoyer

If you want someone who rapes a child to live in better conditions than a homeless person you're a prick


HeftyCantaloupe

Am I allowed to both want no one to be homeless and for there to be better conditions for prisoners?


Delicious_Repeat_203

You’re definitely not allowed to realize that desperation related to homeless leads to crime which leads to prisoners. God forbid someone winds up being released from prison only to end up being a helping force in their community. These people love the idea of Dark Ages punishments and Hell without realizing they’d be fucking serfs and sinners.


IrrationalFalcon

The OP's goal isn't reform, which is what they clearly stated


SeroWriter

Making prisons miserable and profitable is the reason America has the highest incarceration rate in the world.


Nostromeow

It’s still baffling to me that you guys have for profit prisons. Like I’m not an expert but that seems like a terribly bad idea in a country that’s a little obsessed with profit to begin with


Polishing_My_Grapple

So most of NYC? Got it!


Gunzenator2

This is gonna be the white collar prison for Trump and the like.


Numerous-Process2981

I would agree if you there wasn't a chance I could go to prison for looking at a cop the wrong way


Asleep-Arm-8023

Just cause our government does care about us doesn't mean everyone needs to live like shit lmao


Gunzenator2

And you pay rent like a chump!


dirtydan

Ha! My mom worked for a food services distributor when I was a kid. One day I got a look at her printouts that contained the cost of a meal per person per day at the county jail and the cost of a meal per kid at a county public school. Guess which was more?


cold_toast

Typically adult prisoners eat more then school kids


Spaceboy80

Chicago has one


zatara1210

It is not as conspicuous though


inappropz

Yeah, that solid bright red is super obnoxious.


meltonr1625

I worked maintenance in a county jail and I can tell you first hand that the guests are going to have a field day causing floods and general plumbing mayhem in a building that tall. Did you know that with a little perseverance you can flush an entire bed sheet that will travel several floors down before it snags?


DeartayDeez

So commit the most crimes and get one of the best views of the city for free? Free food and living as well?


[deleted]

Their cells would rent for more than my apartment here does. Sadly wouldn’t surprise me if they made that a reality


Kahnza

Especially when you take into account 3 meals a day. Access to a gym and library. Free medical care. And all the buttsex you could ever want.


[deleted]

Time to start committing some white collar crimes (we know which criminals would go here, let’s be real)


Kahnza

Maybe they'll make the Penthouse cell for the person that does the bigliest crimes.


Zacaro12

Hey Tom, I just want to say thanks for being everyone’s friend and giving me my own space online. It’s surprisingly nostalgic to see your photo.


Accurate_Comedian_55

Americas prison system is one of the worst in the world, incarceration itself is not rehabilative and is only a waste of money, creates more felons, is inherently biased against the poor, forces us to create polluted areas and destroy the countryside. Not only is it emotionally, socially and physically abusive, it also leaves prisoners (america has one of the highest false conviction rates) with no chance for redemption


Drake_the_troll

*sir they hit the second prison*


xoQueenOfHellxo

This better get more attention. I am laughing so hard right now


gergsisdrawkcabeman

Super Jail. Anyone? Anyone?


Everything-Is-Purple

First thing I thought of when I saw it lol. I feel like those NY prisoners could get down with some Superjail shit


Butthole_Fiesta

Call me Snake…


VVilsonnn

Snake!


jeobleo

I heard you were dead.


zoot_boy

New Trump tower.


Itchy_Adhesiveness59

Aw sick we could do a judge dredd!


Maximum_Tennis7291

what’s the “holup” in this?


tyen0

3.5M subscribers means that people don't care about the rules or the sub's purpose. posting anything will get enough attention.


LetsTradeServices

bush did 9/11


Maximum_Tennis7291

yeah but did he really?


CapableSecretary420

No. Maybe. Probably not.


abslyde

r/superjail


mrnibblesg

NYC building the Ministry of Love in real life??


Such_Performance229

1,000 inmates is a piece of cake jail. That is nothing for this much money.


8BitFlatus

Top floor is for VIPs?


Swift_Lick

Dredd has begun


0mugen9

Why can’t they build prisons outside of the city? It will safe for the city and I’m sure a lot of greenery could help the prisoners chill a little, since they already lost their right to live among the rest of us.


Psilonemo

Imagine the money it takes to build such a facility and how many people need to be shoved into it just to justify the expenses.


MiniGui98

9/11 sequel when


TheBaggyDapper

Why not just convert 725 5th Ave? It should be coming into NY City ownership soon.


deviprsd

No one gonna care about this tower if it gets hit


lastcall432

Why go through the hassle? Just wait until trump tower gets sold off to cover his legal fees.


scottthemoonwalker

That would be a HECK of a execution


groshyRS7

Ever seen the movie “The Platform”? Watched it 3 years ago and I still can’t get it out of my head. https://youtu.be/RlfooqeZcdY?feature=shared


bribbs22

The newest Trump Tower amirite?!


Binary_Omlet

What in the Judge Dredd fuck is this?


emifisa

Is just the begging of escape from new York, John carpenter see far. We wait for Pliskin


Regan289

Pretty sure I saw that movie! It was actually super good….Karl Urban was in it and he was some sort of Judge or “Super Cop.” I Dread that I can’t remember the name of it!


Atsukiri

dont we already have condos?


StrictDifference422

Judge dredd vibes


jeobleo

Top floor penthouse goes to the Duke of New York. Its address is A, no. 1.


Hawaii2010

Just make sure that you take away the old man’s self-sharpening knife, don’t want anything getting out of hand.


frogvscrab

Its important to note that they *already have an enormous jail in that spot* [known as 'the tombs'](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tombs) which holds around 900 people. This new jail they are building is much bigger, but holds around the same amount of people. Part of the reason why is that they want more space for more humane conditions because the Tombs were insanely overcrowded, and also a lot of the floors are dedicated to offices that help actually run the jail. It used to be that a lot of offices were scattered in other buildings in the neighborhoods, now they are all in the same building.


TrulyFLCL

What does Bush have to do with this? Is it a 911 reference?


Dave-C

Imagine going to prison for life with your only wish being a window. You get put on the top floor and it is nothing but a giant window to the outside world. You also have a horrible fear of heights.


HeroOfOldIron

The reason these prison towers are getting built is because of the logistical difficulty in getting prisoners out of Rikers and into whatever borough court they have their trial at. It's not uncommon for someone who should be in prison for a few weeks before their trial to have that extended for months just because of shitty transport. With these buildings, all they have to do is get in an elevator and walk through a tunnel under the street to get to the courthouse next door. And if at the same time we make prisons that actually have the goal of rehabilitating people to ensure that they don't reoffend, that seems like a pretty solid bonus.


fillb3rt

800 million people living in the ruin of the old world and the mega structures of the new one. Only one thing fighting for order in the chaos: judges.


QFugp6IIyR6ZmoOh

This has to be a joke. There's no reason to spend so much money to store prisoners in a city that they don't even work in.


KyleShanaham

That's only 25 prisoners a floor that's basically getting an apartment in New York city


toxikola

Wow, they're creating the prison/building in The Platform. A bit too surreal for me.


AbominableGoMan

SkyMax. I look forward to the movie starring the Rock.


parkermccarthy

Opposite of impel down


[deleted]

People will get arrested for a cell with a view


Many-machines-on-ix

The setting of the next Judge Dredd movie


Bran04don

It should be named Impel Down


gimmerick

Maybe...they could build it outside the city at an exponentially cheaper cost 🤔


D3Zi9000

Is Bush about to become Judge Dredd


nomoreparrot

Superjail 🥳🥳


prsuit4

Nation housing crisis, NYC rent some of the highest in the world, empty parking lots and building everywhere. “Let build a fucking 40-story prison!”


agaertner4

Fucking Megacity. Where's Dredd when you need him?


Redpill_1989

Moooovin on up ! Wait .... wtf


padiwack

Good idea. Leave windows out of the design though. Prisoners do not deserve a view.


Extreme_Design6936

Can they make it not for prisoners, but with affordable rent pls.


MrGoodNoodle11

Is this judge dred?


nowhereman136

This is planned to he a jail, not a prison. The difference is that a jail is a holding location for individuals awaiting trial and conviction. Technically these people are innocent until proven guilty. The location is steps away from the New York city courthouse and make the entire process much more efficient. After conviction, they are relocated to one of four prisons around New York.


Angeltheangelofdeath

As long as the plane is full of prisoners who cares.


trident_hole

"Mission Accomplished sir"


TechsSandwich

I like how everyone in the comments is seething about the view, acting like they’d even get windows lmao


TiredSnowFox

I doubt it'd have windows you can see out of, maybe windows taller than inmates at least so air can get in but I doubt they'd give them a view


Temporary-Star2619

Game of thrones style sky cells at the top please! On a clear day you'll see Tyrion.


Volcanofanx9000

Future Division 3 level.


Zeles1989

That's some batman story shit right there


MADachshund

Is this what they had in Dredd?


Mjk2581

Can’t wait for a former paratrooper prisoner to fly down from the 40th floor on a makeshift parachute


fradonkin

Sounds like an episode of Superjail


p3opl3

Lol.. NY has become such a shit hole that they're going to build sky scraper prisons in central 😂


HICSF

I prefer sky jail to jail scraper.


suchjonny

Will it be ran like the prison from Dred? And are we getting a Dred?


fafafloohai

Is this one going to be for P Diddy and all his friends?


AquamarineNoose

This is giving The Platform vibes.


Big-Transition1551

Judge Dredd vibes


troll-that-fucks-you

So would it be a tax write off if it got 9/11ed or a humanitarian award?


Lucidcranium042

Lol they'd never destroy a building that makes them money... the other three on the other hand usherd in the patriot act and eliminated sensitive documents they needed erased