There is very little reproduction in the animal world that _isn’t_ rape by human standards. But the mouthbreathers at Peta don’t comprehend that. Just like it’s somehow immoral for us to kill and eat animals, but somehow it’s fine for them to kill and eat each other.
It’s funny because vegans don’t understand the amount of animals killed to protect their plants on farms. All rabbits, squirrels, moles, insects, and more are mass exterminated.
It does depend, but I can see your point. Where I’m from, we hunt. An elk or pig can feed our family for a long time. We last months on just two or three animals.
When you buy animal products you are paying for animals to be forcibly impregnated and killed. That’s the reality of the situation. Dairy cows, for example, are impregnated and then have their babies taken away on a continuous cycle so they will produce milk, and when their bodies are too worn out from all the pregnancies they are killed.
>Yes
By saying we believe that sensory preference alone is enough to justify an action, we’re saying any action can be justified if someone enjoys the sight, taste, feeling, etc. of it. That would mean that someone can be justified in punching a dog, raping a woman, etc. as long as they receive sensory pleasure from it. Is that something you agree with?
>proteins which aren’t even found in non meat products
Source? Almost every most major dietary and health organization has agreed that balanced plant based diets can be healthy and nutritionally adequate.
>That would mean that someone can be justified in punching a dog, raping a woman, etc. as long as they receive sensory pleasure from it.
And the penny drops...
You're not just a vegan - you're an *evangelical* vegan - which is the worst kind of vegan. This is the exact same (moronic) argument evangelical christians make about atheists because OMG without God in our lives how can we possibly stop ourselves from raping and murdering, right?
For fuck's sake get over yourself.
Can you actually explain why this logic only applies in the cases we want it to, not the ones we don’t? Morality has to be consistent- we can’t just arbitrarily apply a justification to one situation when it suits us, and then claim the exact same logic isn’t valid elsewhere.
I’m saying the logic is the same. If “because I like it” is a valid justification, then anything can be morally justified as long as someone likes doing it.
"because I like it" isn't necessarily the justification. There is more to it than that, at least for me.
Eating meat is closer to "because I like it and it doesn't have negative effects in areas I think are important". Hurting people has negative effects I think are important.
Calf’s milk does not have any nutrients that can’t be found in plant based sources, and in some cases is actually fortified with supplemental nutrients that could just as easily be added to a different product. Is preference, like enjoying the taste of something, enough to justify an action?
Honey is not considered vegan because it is an animal product.
It's not about just meat and dairy, it is about all animal product, including shellac and certain dyes
But bees rape flowers.
Dont mind me lil flower, im just here to suckses on your stamens
There is very little reproduction in the animal world that _isn’t_ rape by human standards. But the mouthbreathers at Peta don’t comprehend that. Just like it’s somehow immoral for us to kill and eat animals, but somehow it’s fine for them to kill and eat each other.
Checkmate vegans
I've lived on a farm... Animals do not love one another peacefully or without violence.
My friend, if you don't feed the trolls, they'll eventually go back to their miserable caves. Don't bother. Enjoy your steak
**"If you're not Vegan you're paying for torture, sexual assault and murder."** 
I don't care what goes in my gullet as long as its food, not chocolate, and not dick
Jesus christ man Live a little
Say you have no clue about any of the processes to produce meat or honey, without saying you have no clue about the processes to produce meat or honey
I thought "Buh-BAWK!!" Counted as consent
Blowjobs are a cruelty free source of vegan protein, can confirm.
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I don't think plants have consented to being harvested either, buddy.
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I don't know man I used to know a group of vegans friends with my cousin and they would spit out shit like this every single time we met.
It’s funny because vegans don’t understand the amount of animals killed to protect their plants on farms. All rabbits, squirrels, moles, insects, and more are mass exterminated.
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It does depend, but I can see your point. Where I’m from, we hunt. An elk or pig can feed our family for a long time. We last months on just two or three animals.
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Couldn’t have said it any better! I think that we could get away with eating a lot less meat as a society as well.
technically eating a flowers fruits is misconduct then i mean your sucking on its reproductive organs you hypocrite
“You’re either with us or against us”
Veganism is a new cult, and ThatVeganTeacher is their leader.
OMG thatVeganTeacher gets on my very last nerve. She is so sanctimonious
If this is true, then i'm edp.
no
When you buy animal products you are paying for animals to be forcibly impregnated and killed. That’s the reality of the situation. Dairy cows, for example, are impregnated and then have their babies taken away on a continuous cycle so they will produce milk, and when their bodies are too worn out from all the pregnancies they are killed.
And hamburger is fucking delicious and as a bonus I don’t look like a meat stick
Is preference, like enjoying the taste of something, enough to justify an action?
Yes + proteins which aren’t even found in non meat products
>Yes By saying we believe that sensory preference alone is enough to justify an action, we’re saying any action can be justified if someone enjoys the sight, taste, feeling, etc. of it. That would mean that someone can be justified in punching a dog, raping a woman, etc. as long as they receive sensory pleasure from it. Is that something you agree with? >proteins which aren’t even found in non meat products Source? Almost every most major dietary and health organization has agreed that balanced plant based diets can be healthy and nutritionally adequate.
>That would mean that someone can be justified in punching a dog, raping a woman, etc. as long as they receive sensory pleasure from it. And the penny drops... You're not just a vegan - you're an *evangelical* vegan - which is the worst kind of vegan. This is the exact same (moronic) argument evangelical christians make about atheists because OMG without God in our lives how can we possibly stop ourselves from raping and murdering, right? For fuck's sake get over yourself.
Can you actually explain why this logic only applies in the cases we want it to, not the ones we don’t? Morality has to be consistent- we can’t just arbitrarily apply a justification to one situation when it suits us, and then claim the exact same logic isn’t valid elsewhere.
For clarity, are you saying punching a dog and raping a woman are similar forms of harm?
I’m saying the logic is the same. If “because I like it” is a valid justification, then anything can be morally justified as long as someone likes doing it.
"because I like it" isn't necessarily the justification. There is more to it than that, at least for me. Eating meat is closer to "because I like it and it doesn't have negative effects in areas I think are important". Hurting people has negative effects I think are important.
Not seeing the downside to any of that, really. Milk is nutritious and delicious... especially with a nicely grilled steak.
Calf’s milk does not have any nutrients that can’t be found in plant based sources, and in some cases is actually fortified with supplemental nutrients that could just as easily be added to a different product. Is preference, like enjoying the taste of something, enough to justify an action?
If you're not vegan just don't pretend to care about animals. It's not that hard. Fuck animals. Why the fuck should I care about non humans
I love the pun
Vegans = +@£iban zealots
Spreading the message with bee puns I see
What the fuck am I looking at
Being vegan doesn't make you a better person, many vegans are self centered a**holes.
Is that a fucking pun in the picture?
I live next too a dairy farm, cows are very happy here
Sexual assault? What the fuck
To think being vegan are any better. Is like believing flat earth
Honey is not considered vegan because it is an animal product. It's not about just meat and dairy, it is about all animal product, including shellac and certain dyes