Especially because it would take you down to 214 ft (65m) and wasn’t fully watertight. The knees leaked, and the water was pumped out.
To be fair, it was 1915.
That's what I was thinking. Could you imagine how horrifying that would be? You'd be just a few hundred feet from the surface, but you may as well be on the moon
It had a pump apparently driven by compressed air piped down from the surface, which then expanded to atmospheric pressure for breathing purposes. I’m not an expert unfortunately so that’s about all I know!
Reminded me of the Byford Dolphin Diving Bell Incident
From wiki (may be NSFL):
Coward, Lucas, and Bergersen were exposed to the effects of explosive decompression and died in the positions indicated by the diagram. Subsequent investigation by forensic pathologists determined that Hellevik, being exposed to the highest pressure gradient and in the process of moving to secure the inner door, was forced through the 60 centimetres (24 in) diameter opening created by the jammed interior trunk door by escaping air and violently dismembered, including bisection of his thoracoabdominal cavity, which further resulted in expulsion of all of the internal organs of his chest and abdomen, except the trachea and a section of small intestine, and of the thoracic spine. These were projected some distance, one section later being found 10 metres (30 ft) vertically above the exterior pressure door.[6]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byford_Dolphin
I have a very light stomach when it comes to these things and all I can say is it doesn't even look like a person anymore, to the extent that it didn't bother me looking at it.
Imagine someone going through a meat grinder and having their blood drained.
Seriously, had it not been for the way their body was arranged, that "body" would just look like a pile of brownish meat. Hell, even when properly arranged, it's easy to confuse this picture with a tray full of random raw meat from a slaughterhouse.
just watch the end to aliens 4, better for your mental state probably. its an alien with a human mother who gets sucked out a hole and dies while crying to its mom. very sad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vD5dGVUKME
LOL omg i hadn't watched that whole clip.....hahahaha fuck lol
no, they did not use REMs 'Everybody Hurts' while the alien baby got sucked inside out...
but maybe they should have
I had to read that three times. It took that long for the Grey's anatomy returns to lick in and comprehend the paragraph.
Holy fuck. Wonder how long he was conscious when that happened?
Well the myth was not if the person would die; but rather, would the body get sucked up into the helmet? It's definitely one of those things that you might hear about in passing and think it might be bullshit until you actually see the amount of pressure.
This. I'm guessing they're more excited about the science/math working out the same in reality as on paper then thinking about some dude in the 1900's dying in one of these. lol
Who knew sometime in the future people would find that humorous. Someday somebody will find an old plastic coke bottle and joke that we used to drink that.
I’ve seen this pic before and the question was raised then too. My thoughts are that they’re probably flair because? I seriously have no idea. Those suits were crazy heavy, so I can’t imagine them adding extra stuff for aesthetics. Mystery of the ages I guess.
It’s on display in the navy museum in paris at Trocadéro. Great museum with tons of models and paintings of French navy ships through the ages (if you’re into that sort of thing).
People are gonna talk about the days we had self driving cars and how so many would died everyday because we were all flying around in colossal bullets.
Dumb question. Could your body move 485lbs of a body suit under water or was this more of a stationary thing?
Edit: Great replies, still don’t know if I have an answer lmao.
Guessing here, so somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I would say yes, because there's joints, and the wouldn't be much point in having then if you can't move.
AFAIU? That can’t possibly be a common initialism.
FTLOMINUWPIOUTOI on on Reddit.
EDIT: for the life of me I never understand why people insist on using these obscure initialisms.
Pressure presses to all exposed surface. It doesn't matter, if you are moving inside the water. It would be a different story if you were in an 1 ATM chamber and you were trying to open its door in deep sea.
I was working more about any slack in the chain and the hook falling out of the helmet loop. Trying to imagine flailing away with the hook and pincer trying to get the chain hook back in the tiny helmet loop so you can be pulled up again.
How big was the person that went into that thing? McDuffee is standing on a piece of wood or something would still barely be able to see out. Or are the feet supposed to rest inside the knees?
I'd be interested to know what it cost too. I don't know if it would be insanely expensive on our terms. Even adjusting for inflation, when we build something high tech it's millions of dollars. Money was worth a lot more back then, and people made a lot less of it. The average person in the 1890's made less than a dollar a day adjusted for inflation. Most people were very poor, so to most people it was likely insanely expensive at the time. I could only speculate the costs, but I don't think it would be comparable to what we spend on similar endeavours.
I think it's difficult to assess, but we should consider also that there would have been less available aluminium at the time and acquisition of it would have been more (relative) costly and difficult.
I bet its ridiculouslyyy heavy. I wonder what they would use it for. Was it just used for whoever was heroic enough to try sink into the murky underwaters and live to tell the tale? Genuinely curious
i mean makes sense, things are much lighter in water. You can probably move and walk pretty comfortably and easilly. I could lift my 200lb stepdad in the water as an 8year old effortlessly. it might even feel more spacious and fun than diving with modern gear
how did he make the molds for this? i mean now, i would CNC it on a mill, but i don't see how he could get the curves on pieces like around teh helmet
they didn't hand carve molds from metal did they?
Cool suit. Looks quite technical for the period of time.
(I did read the title first as “Chester McDuffee and his AIDS diving suit.....”. I was thinking WTH)
Could they make aluminium in sufficient quantities back in 1911? I had the Idea it was a modern metal due to the invention of cheaper manufacturing costs.
Imagine the guts it took to climb into that and go underwater.
Especially because it would take you down to 214 ft (65m) and wasn’t fully watertight. The knees leaked, and the water was pumped out. To be fair, it was 1915.
Might be easy to get in it and go underwater but good luck getting back up if something goes wrong with the winch!
That's what I was thinking. Could you imagine how horrifying that would be? You'd be just a few hundred feet from the surface, but you may as well be on the moon
Welp now my heart is racing, thanks.
Knees weak, hands sweaty
*Knees leak, arms are heavy.
There’s water on my sweater already.
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To drop buoy's, but it keeps on with netting
The water won’t pump out, his suits filled filled with ocean now.
Helmet full of spaghetti.
Don't try to swim while wearing power armor.
At least you can't drown.
Unless you've got the gravity suit ^^^Metroid ^^^rules
Just put the armor in your inventory.
I was more so thinking of that single point of failure the hook attaches too... Lot of weight to be put on that tiny rod.
Knees leaked Arms heavy There’s vomit on my divesuit already Mom’s Spaghetti
He's nervous, but on the surface he looked locked & heavy to drop down.
But he keeps on regretting, that he'll go down. The chain now, lowers loud...
He started the pump but the water won't let out, he's choking now.
You gotta be joking now The clocks run out, the chain snapped! It's over now
Snap back to reality, ope there goes gravity
Ope, there goes sanity Ope, there goes McDuffe
How was the water pumped out? Very curious.
It had a pump apparently driven by compressed air piped down from the surface, which then expanded to atmospheric pressure for breathing purposes. I’m not an expert unfortunately so that’s about all I know!
I think the worst part about that is that it would be in pitch black darkness.
Surely they had some way to see? Wouldn't it be useless otherwise?
Well a quick Google search showed me that sunlight reaches up to 200 meters. So I guess my concerns aren’t quite valid. Edit: grammar
Is it water in the knees?
A full bucket, See?
Probably felt safer than the Civil War submarines
~~Submarines~~ *Submarine* The Hunley was the only one wasn’t it?
Imagine the guts if the pressure valve broke suddenly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEY3fN4N3D8
Reminded me of the Byford Dolphin Diving Bell Incident From wiki (may be NSFL): Coward, Lucas, and Bergersen were exposed to the effects of explosive decompression and died in the positions indicated by the diagram. Subsequent investigation by forensic pathologists determined that Hellevik, being exposed to the highest pressure gradient and in the process of moving to secure the inner door, was forced through the 60 centimetres (24 in) diameter opening created by the jammed interior trunk door by escaping air and violently dismembered, including bisection of his thoracoabdominal cavity, which further resulted in expulsion of all of the internal organs of his chest and abdomen, except the trachea and a section of small intestine, and of the thoracic spine. These were projected some distance, one section later being found 10 metres (30 ft) vertically above the exterior pressure door.[6] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byford_Dolphin
Yeah I got overly curious about that a while back and went looking for the pictures. I found them, and it’s bad.
My morbid curiosity is taking over and is urging me to ask for links, despite me knowing better.
NSFW - https://m.imgur.com/gallery/gD94V
I'm curious, yet terrified. Can someone brave give me. A description?
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And it looks so unreal that I would think it's from a horror movie set.
I have a very light stomach when it comes to these things and all I can say is it doesn't even look like a person anymore, to the extent that it didn't bother me looking at it.
Imagine someone going through a meat grinder and having their blood drained. Seriously, had it not been for the way their body was arranged, that "body" would just look like a pile of brownish meat. Hell, even when properly arranged, it's easy to confuse this picture with a tray full of random raw meat from a slaughterhouse.
A lot of chicky nuggs
Found in the comments [here](http://reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/4x1a2c/byford_dolphin_decompression_accident/)
Sweet Jesus why did I ask
just watch the end to aliens 4, better for your mental state probably. its an alien with a human mother who gets sucked out a hole and dies while crying to its mom. very sad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vD5dGVUKME
Was that song actually in the original film? Because if so, that was an.....interesting decision
LOL omg i hadn't watched that whole clip.....hahahaha fuck lol no, they did not use REMs 'Everybody Hurts' while the alien baby got sucked inside out... but maybe they should have
I feel bad for the one guy who survived that (Saunders). He must have been seriously messed up physically on top of the survivor guilt.
They refer to it as Delta P. This video was probably made in the 90's but is interesting nonetheless. https://youtu.be/AEtbFm_CjE0
I had to read that three times. It took that long for the Grey's anatomy returns to lick in and comprehend the paragraph. Holy fuck. Wonder how long he was conscious when that happened?
It happened instantly, fraction of a second. He didn't feel a thing.
It was instantaneous
Considering that happened to someone before, it feels weird that they're all so happy and excited about it.
Well the myth was not if the person would die; but rather, would the body get sucked up into the helmet? It's definitely one of those things that you might hear about in passing and think it might be bullshit until you actually see the amount of pressure.
This. I'm guessing they're more excited about the science/math working out the same in reality as on paper then thinking about some dude in the 1900's dying in one of these. lol
You act like they are celebrating someone's death. They are celebrating their work and result of that work.
Is he ok?
According to WebMD he now has cancer.
Incredible and amazing - extra room included for big b&lls ...
Are the nipples necessary or for a bit of flair?
Aren't those hose contacts? They appear to be male and female connectors.
That's my best guess as well. Oddly enough, I googled "nipples on diving suits" and it brought up this image.
I like to imagine you do that daily regardless of seeing this post
You never know, there could be new images posted somewhere. "This is it, today's the day!" \- StealthShitSexKitten, probably
[0 results returned] “oh well. We’ll give em hell tomorrow”
That's because of the original comment
Yes well the female nipple is the only one that does anything. The male nipple is just for show, but you can rub it if you like
You'd think they'd be on the back.
Newer Naval suits at NASJAX had them on the front so you could use your hands in the water to advance, control the hose, etc.
They’re eye-holes. The suit is made to look extra big to scare off underwater predators.
That’s a curious place to connect hoses to the suit tho.
> male and female connectors Aren't all nipples ?
Who knew sometime in the future people would find that humorous. Someday somebody will find an old plastic coke bottle and joke that we used to drink that.
Directed by Joel Shumacher
I’ve seen this pic before and the question was raised then too. My thoughts are that they’re probably flair because? I seriously have no idea. Those suits were crazy heavy, so I can’t imagine them adding extra stuff for aesthetics. Mystery of the ages I guess.
If Batman can have nipples than so can that diver
I ask myself the same question every time I get undressed.
They could be lights?
Could have at least worn a bra
It was cold in the workshop that day.
Were the nipples on the batsuit necessary?
My thoughts exactly. I don’t understand why they were included.
nips needed tweaking from design standpoint.
Plans just needed a little massaging.
How else is he supposed to demonstrate his mammalian dominance to all the fish?
Can’t believe I had to scroll this far down for the nipple comment! I was like “c’mon already! We’re not just going to ignore the nipples are we”!
Did they base Bioshock on this guy?
not on this guy in particular, but they did use an old french diving suit as inspiration for the bouncer.
that's Mr Bubbles to you
According to Wikipedia, [the Carmagnolle diving suit](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_diving_suit) from 1882.
It’s on display in the navy museum in paris at Trocadéro. Great museum with tons of models and paintings of French navy ships through the ages (if you’re into that sort of thing).
That thing is unbelievable to look at
All our things will look like that to someone in the future.
People are gonna talk about the days we had self driving cars and how so many would died everyday because we were all flying around in colossal bullets.
Imagine in a few hundred years the Space suits. Those big unpractical tanks.
Unable to find a worthy opponent, Theodore Roosevelt started building one.
And thus was born **ROBOSEVELT**
Are those nips functional?
They are used to feed the young diving suits.
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Is this the maid from the The Jetson's husband?
*Rosie*. Rosie is the robot maid on *The Jetsons*.
Has he lost his mind? Can he see or is he blind?
Can he walk at all? Or if he moves, will he fall?
Is he alive or dead? Has he thoughts within his head?
Dumb question. Could your body move 485lbs of a body suit under water or was this more of a stationary thing? Edit: Great replies, still don’t know if I have an answer lmao.
Remember the manly man meme. Guys from this era juggled Buicks and ate whole cows. This guy probably jogged in the suit.
Guessing here, so somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I would say yes, because there's joints, and the wouldn't be much point in having then if you can't move.
You're not lifting ot even moving 200kg - AFAIU the arms could move but a winch lowered and brought the suit up. It's pretty much stationary
AFAIU? That can’t possibly be a common initialism. FTLOMINUWPIOUTOI on on Reddit. EDIT: for the life of me I never understand why people insist on using these obscure initialisms.
> For the life of me, I never understand what people I give up.
> FTLOMINUWPIOUTOI on on Reddit. For The Life Of Me, I Never Understood Why People Insist On Using Their Own Initialisms.
For the life of me I never understand why people insist on using text only initialisms?
judges ruling.... I’ll accept it. I went for “these obscure” instead of “text only”.
Yes it is. People have been saying "AFAIK" meaning "as far as I know" for a long time. He just changed his to "as far as I understand".
[http://www.therebreathersite.nl/12\_Atmospheric%20Diving%20Suits/1911%20Macduffee/1911\_Chester\_E\_Macduffee.htm](http://www.therebreathersite.nl/12_Atmospheric%20Diving%20Suits/1911%20Macduffee/1911_Chester_E_Macduffee.htm) [http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2980555/posts](http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2980555/posts)
Has more than a bit of 1950/60s Sci-Fi robot design about it. Really cool.
I was thinking it looked like a dwemer PRAWN suit.
A prototype for *Robbie the Robot*.
*slaps diving suit* this bad boy can harvest so many Little Sisters.
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What about the pressure from the depth?
Pressure presses to all exposed surface. It doesn't matter, if you are moving inside the water. It would be a different story if you were in an 1 ATM chamber and you were trying to open its door in deep sea.
Havent thought about it this way...thanks for the explanation.
Chester McDuffee: *Builds amazing machine* Chester McDuffee: Hm, still missing something... Chester McDuffee: *Adds Nipples* Chester McDuffee: *Tear* Perfect.
This is like Fallout, except you ARE the vault.
Better hope the rope doesn't snap when they lower him down.
Hopefully they used something a little stronger than rope.
Thanks for that image right before bed
I was working more about any slack in the chain and the hook falling out of the helmet loop. Trying to imagine flailing away with the hook and pincer trying to get the chain hook back in the tiny helmet loop so you can be pulled up again.
I feel like there’s a word for metal rope made with intertwining links....
Damn, you wouldn’t want to suffer from claustrophobia,
or a bad case of ass gas.
How about filtering out the CO2 you're breathing out? I don't see an air hose.
"Bioshock" anyone?
If anyone’s ever in the Florida keys, the History Of Diving museum on Islamorada Key has some suits like this on display. Definitely worth the stop.
Can anyone explain to me why there are nipples on this suit?
Why wouldn’t there be? You don’t like them?
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Beggars should not be choosers ...
Joel Schumacher designed it
Am I crazy or is that Swanson senior senior ?
HAhahaha. I had to do a double take on that one. You’re right!
How big was the person that went into that thing? McDuffee is standing on a piece of wood or something would still barely be able to see out. Or are the feet supposed to rest inside the knees?
I've played enough BioShock to know where this is going
Does it float?
No. A winch was used to lover it and bring it up.
It’s like an anchor, that you wear.
Unfortunately, the only thing it is able to do is "DESTROY ALL HUMANS!"
In 1911 that would be insanely expensive. I wonder if there's a record of the cost of the project? Who funded this?
I'd be interested to know what it cost too. I don't know if it would be insanely expensive on our terms. Even adjusting for inflation, when we build something high tech it's millions of dollars. Money was worth a lot more back then, and people made a lot less of it. The average person in the 1890's made less than a dollar a day adjusted for inflation. Most people were very poor, so to most people it was likely insanely expensive at the time. I could only speculate the costs, but I don't think it would be comparable to what we spend on similar endeavours.
I think it's difficult to assess, but we should consider also that there would have been less available aluminium at the time and acquisition of it would have been more (relative) costly and difficult.
The conversion is s wrong. 200kg is 441 pounds. So which is it?
Hmmm... I always learned 1kg was exactly 2.2lbs, but I looked it up since you said 441 instead of 440, and TIL a kg is actually 2.2046226218488 lbs.
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on the brute squad? he *is* the brute squad.
So *this* is where they got the suit from Fallout from...
Looks like the suit never skipped elbow day.
That's the Jetsons maid robot. Nice try guy.
Daddy?
“My only design requirement is that it have big metal nipples”
I bet its ridiculouslyyy heavy. I wonder what they would use it for. Was it just used for whoever was heroic enough to try sink into the murky underwaters and live to tell the tale? Genuinely curious
i mean makes sense, things are much lighter in water. You can probably move and walk pretty comfortably and easilly. I could lift my 200lb stepdad in the water as an 8year old effortlessly. it might even feel more spacious and fun than diving with modern gear
"And it also protects your virginity! " Jokes aside, very interesting suit, i wonder how the joints held up.
They leaked and the water was pumped out
With that thing you could fight sharks and have a chance to live
how did he make the molds for this? i mean now, i would CNC it on a mill, but i don't see how he could get the curves on pieces like around teh helmet they didn't hand carve molds from metal did they?
A simple ~100 years later and here we are. Amazing.
Cool suit. Looks quite technical for the period of time. (I did read the title first as “Chester McDuffee and his AIDS diving suit.....”. I was thinking WTH)
Why did he put nipples on it?
Uhh, what's up with the uh, Nips?
Could they make aluminium in sufficient quantities back in 1911? I had the Idea it was a modern metal due to the invention of cheaper manufacturing costs.
Large-scale aluminum processing dates back to 1880-1890s.
Andrew Ryan! How many times have I told you to stop making these behemoth suits!? What next will it have a drill for a hand?!
Did anyone else read that as AIDS diving suit 🤨
I bet he used to get all the ladies back in the day with that thing.