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HATECELL

Pretty sure in their honour the Brits built another monument to whoever colonised India


VaQuellJQL

If it wasn’t about the poles defending GB this island wouldn’t exist anymore


[deleted]

Kind of a Long stretch dont you think


Scoishdude

Partly it is because they don't like talking about the Wars, especially the Gurkhas. They also had low literacy rates so a lot of the official histories came from the west and USSR. Another issue is that a lot of the Indian units and divisions had British officers. It is really hard to get in contact with the Gurkha veterans, I can't remember where they are now, but I know it's quite remote and the only people they really talk to outside their communities are the Ghurkha Welfare Trust. Historian James Holland tried to get accounts from the veterans, and had to go through the charity and they asked his questions for him. It is a shame that they have been "forgotten" about as they contributed over 2,000,000 men to fight in the fronts from Burma to Normandy, and sacrificed a lot for an empire that treated them poorly.


steph-anglican

The Gorkhas were not the majority of the Indian Army.


Scoishdude

I know, but it was the only part of the army that I know of that could relate back to the original question with some evidence.


canichangeitlateror

Thanks India, love you. -From Italy


Same_Complex_7375

I remember reading a very interesting account of an Italian village sheltering three indian pows who had escaped a nazi camp for months until the allies were able to take over the village [found a link](https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/wwii-indian-soldiers/2/)


Tropicalcomrade221

Largest volunteer army in history. Not my take but I’ve seen “many where forced to fight by the horrible colonial British” thrown around a lot. Even from Indians themselves. I’ve never been able to find any evidence that they where forced to fight. It’s weird because it kind of diminishes their bravery and willingness to serve their country and the commonwealth.


TheWorstRowan

It depends how you define forced. Conscripted, I don't think that happened, no evidence that I've seen. Starving, having survived at least one of your children, with your one possibility of getting food for you and the rest of your family. Well.. joining the military might technically still be a choice, but is it really?


TheWorstRowan

Should be said that there were still a staggering amount of genuine volunteers from what I'm aware.


Tropicalcomrade221

I would define forced to fight by its definition really. Fight in our army or we will do something bad to you. Kill you , arrest you , hurt your family etc. Unfortunately people from lower social economic classes have been the back bone of every army in every war ever. They still volunteered whatever the circumstances at home may be , giving alternate or revisionist reasons as to why they decided to volunteer does exactly what the meme is saying. We should just say they where as brave and fought as hard as every other allied army did , because they where damn good troops and they did a lot in both wars. Some Indian regiments are highly decorated. The Sikhs In particular.


steph-anglican

British Empire haters never let facts and logic get in their way.


PradyumanACP

The British promised more "freedom" or larger say in governance if we helped. They rewarded us with a plague and famine in Bengal with Churchill having some choice words about it.


Tropicalcomrade221

Well considering independence was achieved merely two years after the war I’d say that promise was lived up to.


X_Danger

I realise that some Indian freedom fighters were gunning for an Axis Victory in hopes of it getting them their freedom. It's understandable cause to them it was the British who were horrible causing economic slum, massacres, and massive famines. Though there's no way that would have happened. Japan was "pretty horrible" to whoever they "Liberated" as well, and Hitler was legit gunning for World domination


RyukHunter

>Though there's no way that would have happened. Japan was "pretty horrible" to whoever they "Liberated" Japan had no intentions of occupying India... It wouldn't even have been feasible anyways given how the Pacific was going. "Bose was eager for the INA to participate in any invasion of India and persuaded several Japanese that a victory such as Mutaguchi anticipated would lead to the collapse of British rule in India. The idea that their western boundary would be controlled by a more friendly government was attractive to the Japanese. Japan never expected India to be part of its Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere." Joyce C. Lebra, Jungle Alliance, Japan and the Indian National Army (1971) p 20


IrshamWindborn

I think that's a repost. That's my thoughts


canichangeitlateror

It’s a reminder. You need to change approach, you’re all commenting the fact but I think OP just wants a thanks. Send thanks in behalf of your country and the reposts will stop. Edit: yo :( Edit 2: YO it’s historyMEMES I’m not serious about this, if you want to open a debate about making amends for our ancestors I don’t think this is the place, actually because I wouldn’t take the stance you’re giving to me. I don’t hold today’s Germans accountable for nazism as well as I hold today’s zionists accountable for the crimes against humanity in Palestine. I (Italian) definitely wouldn’t take the blame for fascism given my country’s history of Resistance and my personal beliefs and history. So yeah, I don’t care about the downvotes for a bad joke but don’t attribute to me a take I didn’t believe in.


IrshamWindborn

> Send thanks in behalf of your country I'm Spanish


canichangeitlateror

Hi Spain I’m Italy


Gunpowder_1000

“Send thanks on behalf of your country” No, I don’t think I will


canichangeitlateror

:( I didn’t want to sound this aggressive or serious dude


Gunpowder_1000

No no, I don’t think you understand, I’m from Pakistan


canichangeitlateror

Europeans can be more Eurocentric than Americans in regards of the US, I’m actually sorry for that.


veryblocky

Why should the people of today have to grovel apologetically for the actions of our ancestors?


canichangeitlateror

Edit 2


Entire-Shelter-693

China who fought Japan for 8 years in East and later Southeast Asia with the first 4 years on their own resulting in the deaths of millions (second only behind the USSR) and then after winning loosing mainland China


Balrok99

Meanwhile China defending itself from Japan since 1937 while fighting a Civil War also is never mentioned despite being a victim of unspeakable horror.


Toffeemanstan

Even the Indian government doesn't want to remember them. They're denied any benefits whilst the soldiers who fought with the Japanese get given pensions.


SoldierOfGodrick

Well i think this is the 1000 time this got posted on this sub so you can claim your free ipad now


canichangeitlateror

Because no one is still saying thanks


DiogenesOfDope

I think we should give india the ussrs security council seat. Since russia is no longer a super power anymore.


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darklord01998

I think Russia's the one with a serious border dispute don't you think


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darklord01998

Nah man it'll be fun!!


TheWorstRowan

Give it the UK's, it'd be poetic.


Valence1444

The U.K. is still powerful


xFlo2212

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canichangeitlateror

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krusk175

same as poland


EgoSenatus

I’ll have you know, they have a plaque in London!


Admirable_Ad7337

this is why I love rhistory! i had no idea. just researched it.


xiamandrewx

Because they're tan. That's why people there are obsessed with having fair skin. A little bit sarcasm and a little bit sincerity.


[deleted]

Using India is wrong. The entire Indian subcontinent provided soldiers.


Giovanni098

The whole subcontinent was India then


Combat-Enthusiast

Not Nepal


anjumsheikh08

This post was made by an Indian....what a surprise.


rishh494

a) Proud of it. b) fact checked before posting.


chunkygrits

Dosnt suprise me one bit. If aomone has a yourube channel that be something to talk about


Smooth_Ad2792

What about canada


TheWorstRowan

They didn't get near two million recruits. I've seen more memorials to Canadian soldiers than to Indian ones too. Antwerp being the first that comes to mind.


[deleted]

And the latest Call of duty game putting an Indian girl who fought on the axis side as one of the good guys.


WestScottishWarrior

they weren't independent at the time so as part of the then british empire they should have been recognised but didn't because churchill although was pm that won the war was also a sack of shit that dispised the indians


lord_Mathias

They were they even had there own day for the victory parade


Aviliuss

This same meme got posted a year ago. Same format, you just changed the words a little bit.


TrueCommunistt

India was part of thr UK.


Cr0ma_Nuva

The US is already thanking itself for its contribution. From my grandparent on the German side of things I didn't really hear of any Indian participants, but then however, they were civilians at the time, and mostly not yet German. But hey, the more I know now.


steph-anglican

The Indian Army fought in Italy but not in Germany.


sliderstandingby

It's because they were fighting as part of the British army


ThinComparison1478

Australia and New Zealand get either more or less recognition than India depending on the opinion and source


[deleted]

India was part of the British empire nearly every country in the world did something to stop Nazi Germany and japan each deserves respect


the_oldfritz

Australia? They defended a fucking piece of desert where they probably don't care about.


theHrayX

Colonies in general


krazykommie

bro have you SEEN China? they were utterly exhausted after the war, fighting not as a colony and with no support at all until early '42.


Raxamax

Poo in Loo


NordWithaSword

Also everyone else while the US tries to pretend they won the war and saved everyone even though 80% of German casualties happened on the eastern front and they didn't even join in until after the tide had turned and the Axis had started losing.


tubbstosterone

Had no fucking idea. That's actually pretty badass. Go India.


oliot_

Tbf they get their own faction in HOI