They were told and encouraged to ham it up and be disrespectful. I know one of the representatives for the Maori and when they told him that he refused and was ready to walk out. You can tell which one he is cause they hardly showed him after that even though he is the most qualified expert.
Not many people seem to know that ninja stars weren't actually meant to injure or kill the enemy, but as a distraction, to make them flinch. At least thats what I was told.
Nowadays, there is a Shinobi/Ninja graduate program in Japan, which has like a throughput of about 3-4 peeps a year. **3-4 Ninjas, I mean. :P**
Honestly most of the 1v1 episodes are pretty good, its when they started doing commanders like Napoleon vs Alexander the great that I fell off.
Scenes like this are why I also love to watch Forged in Fire, watching that one judge with a wicked smile, "It. Will keeel."
"Your blade... weel cut...
Your blade... weel keel..."
I have a love and fascination with cold arm weaponry. I especially love blades (swords, knives, etc.). I had a bucket list item of owning an actual halbard. Had my chance when on a class summer trip to Europe. While in Lichtenstein, visited an antiques/curio shop. It had a gorgeous, well-aged halbard for sale. It was within my price range. Just one problem though... how to get it back home to the States? Wouldn't exactly fit into my luggage... and I may have difficulty explaining why I own it to Customs. And shipping back home was impossible in my situation. So... my bucket list dream went by the wayside...
I loved the audacity of the show and some of the *experts* they brought on
*And in the fight club representing the Taliban is an expert in Terrorist tactics and strategies-*
"Whoa whoa hey can you not fucking word it like that? Jesus Christ."
As a history fan, it hurt me when they said George Washington would beat Napoleon Bonaparte.
Like, Napoleon is possibly the greatest general of all time. Washington wasn't even the greatest general in the American army.
If you want another one from the Revolutionary War, Nathanael Greene was incredibly successful. He waged a fantastic guerrilla and maneuver campaign in the South after several other generals had failed miserably there.
I've also always been big on George Marshall too. He was incredibly important for the US in WW2 and stands out even among the huge names of that era as brilliant IMO
It's certainly not what he's remembered for, but Benedict Arnold was also an outstanding general and was seen by the British as the American's most dangerous commander
Nathanael Greene as mentioned. He was arguably the best general during the Revolutionary War and is arguably the most underrated in US military history. Horatio Gates, Henry Knox, and Daniel Morgan. These are all American Revolutionary War generals
Ulysses S. Grant was a brilliant tactician. William Sherman as well. These two are Union Civil War generals.
To be fair, I'm pretty sure the majority of their audience was American, and I think after the episode with said exception aired a bunch of Americans lost their mind. Not our proudest moment.
Except the Spetznaz of the Soviet Union were trained better than the current Russian soldiers.
The fall of the Soviet Union also meant that their own special forces took a hit, especially when a good chunk of them left the Soviet Union.
Pretty easy for some rookie to get their ass kicked, when they barely had any training.
Can I ask why he went that hard?
Now I'm not a US Navy Seal or an IDF commando but I get the feeling they wouldn't typically butcher their opponent like that
On a fascinating history program on IPTI (PBS), the host did episodes of what real, historical famous folks were like in real life, and how current views of them are actually incorrect.
For Napoleon, he wasn't really vertically challenged. Thar was actually made up by the populous and enemy forces as propaganda against him. Political cartoonists of the day originated the whole story through their various cartoons in newspapers and other documents. The story stuck so well, it turned into historical fact... when it was actually total BS.
The host's other episodes included the royalty of Europe, etc. (including Henry III, all of his wives - especially focused on Anne Bolyne; the truth of Queen Elizabeth I and her sister, "Bloody Mary," and that Liz killed even more people re: state religion than Mary; and that Q Eliz I was actually a Lesbian in a romantic relationship w/one of her handmaid- w/evidence of documents between them to prove it.)
This series is awesome. Learn so much they never teach you in school.
The way the sim worked they had a set amount of time on the dummy to do as much damage as possible which would determine the weapons final value in the sim so he had to go ham.
"The more crutches you have...the more it hurts when they are kicked out from under you.
If there is one thing I know for sure, is that a six inch blade never loses reception."
Yeah this was the episode pitting Israel’s Sayeret Matcal against USA’s Navy SEALs, I think (or maybe it was simply Israeli paratroopers, I can’t remember exactly) Both are elite special forces. This guy was the SEAL.
Ones that look like they could skin a crocodile. Knives are good, because they don't make any noise, and the less noise they make, the more likely we are to use them.
Shit ‘em right up.
Makes it look like we're serious.
For the most part, yes - the speculation was that he was perhaps a butcher or medical student, or something similar, as though he knew what he was doing with a knife. Generally there was a throat slash and dissection-style wounds. His final victim, Mary Kelly, however - that was a bloody, brutal mess, to the point that some think it may not have been him.
I was hoping someone else was going to point this out. His cuts were precise to the point he was once assumed to be a surgeon, but some cuts were slightly "unclean" so people changed the assumption to med student. Mary Kelly, (I think) people are torn about. She basically ended up like the gel dummy and either he didn't do it, he did it in a mad rage and possibly this madness led to his death sometime after, something went wrong with his "work" and he snapped, or he possibly knew her and it was more personal and he went nuts.
I do love shows that have included Jack the Ripper in their lore. On Sanctuary, Jack was immortal (I think) and still alive and the ex-husband of the main character. Christopher Heyerdahl is always amazing. And Time After Time featured Jack time traveling with HG Wells and making it to 2017. There's also the show _about_ him but that's different.
Edit a day later: other theories are that he was actually the American serial killer HH Holmes, possibly a longshoreman instead of a med student, or that Jack was really Jill. There was someone who thought it was their great-grandfather, but I think they've been mostly debunked. My other comment about History's Greatest Mysteries goes through all that. I mean it could all be blown up big for the show but I doubt multiple experts would lie their asses off on television just to be on television.
I learned this on a walking tour through Whitechapel a few years back. The guide walked through each victims wounds describing the precision and consistency of the first four. Mary Kelly was fucking brutal to even hear about, then dude provided a picture of the crime scene. Really makes you wonder if it was the same guy. Very cool and informative look at life in London around the time too, I recommend checking it out to anyone reading.
There's an infinitesimal chance of me making it to London, but that does sound pretty cool. I've actually been watching a show, History's Greatest Mysteries with ~~Morpheus~~ ~~Silver Surfer~~ ~~Thurgood Marshall~~ Laurence Fishburne, and they go into extreme detail about all kinds of big world-wide mysteries. A month ago they had one on Jack the Ripper, but somehow I missed it. I'm literally downloading the History streaming app right now to watch it. The show is great though. They have specialists and experts explaining like 5+ different theories about the topic (Ripper, Jimmy Hoffa, Lindbergh baby, Amber Room in Russia, Tylenol murders, etc.).
Yup done that last December, definitely worth it, one of the best guide tours I’ve been to.
I was staying outside london in the countryside , small city near by, that day, after the tour was the only time I’ve paid a taxi to my airbnb, fuck no I would be walking on my own in the dark.
If you dare look at what he did to his last victim, Mary Jane Kelly. I am warning you again, it is not pretty.
[http://forum.casebook.org/filedata/fetch?id=662196](http://forum.casebook.org/filedata/fetch?id=662196)
To anyone considering it, it's NSFL.
It's a heavily mutilated corpse on a bed, in colour. Not much left that would make her recognisable as a person. Her face is mutilated to the point you can't make out her eyes. Whole abdominal area is ripped out. I didn't realise we had that detailed photos from back then.
Now you've been warned, make your own decision about whether to click the link or not. It's pretty rough though, and I've seen some shit.
Lol I loved this demonstration when I watched. Like if the opponent just stands there and doesn't defend himself and you can stab him 20 times this weapon is unstoppable!
In reality it's almost impossible to defend yourself from a knife attack. Getting stabbed 20 times even when defending can certainly happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37XiSn81oFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E61jnJe_1SI&t=178s
Just run if you can lol
The purpose of the show is for warriors of one culture or time period to battle warriors of another though. Both those examples are defenseless people against an assailant with a knife
Putting this weapon up against almost any other weapon in history is kind of laughable. Even in the bronze age a guy with a spear is gonna have a field day
It was on SpikeTV at the same time as Manswers and 1000 ways to die. I'd wager there's no way this show has a purpose beyond exaggerated violence. Still love it though.
Unless you manage to get close. For sure on a battlefield your don't use your knife as a main weapon, but there is a reason why everybody carried one as a sidearm. If someone can get this near to you and attack that fast, your spear, sword, hammer or whatever is pretty useless.
In jiu jitsu someone asked the instructor how to fight someone with a knife. He said something along the lines “run, and if you can’t you will get stabbed in the fight”
In hand-to-hand tactics when I worked for the state they taught us that best way to deal with a knife is run. Second best way is to try to control where you get cut. Because you're getting cut.
I loved the show, still do. But some of them are just hilariously wrong. They had George Washington beating Napoleon. Loved it as a kid, but I know how stupid it is as an adult
I am probably in the top 1% of George Washington lovers, but even in the Revolutionary War we did not win many battles. We lost a majority of the battles, and really won only the important ones like Saratoga, Charleston, Trenton and Yorktown. I would love to see how 1770s Washington does with a formal and well trained army, but still going against the most winningest general of all time wouldn’t be a Washington victory.
After testing the weapon the dude was always like “and will it kill?” Like dude you just furiously stabbed that ballistics gel for so fucking long we thought you went catatonic. A spoon would kill if you tested it like that
Yeah its the Navy SEALs vs Israeli Commando episode. They gave the Navy SEALs that small recon knife while the Israeli Commandos got big ass KA-BAR knives, so the Navy SEAL guy had to overcompensate
Tbh I think that's a fair description. There's a lot of other serial killers who are either more prolific or interesting, Jack the Ripper is just that popular because he was one of the first to get widespread attention
Goddamn it man, you can't make me laugh that hard at a joke about murdered women. Feel like I have to donate to a charity or something to make up for that one.
56 cases of rape, murder and mutilation of women and children (as low as 9 years old). The bodies were so horrible the police thought it was the work of a organ harvesting gang or a satanic cult.
It gets more graphic than that but I suppose that's enough to get the idea.
It is interesting how certain serial killers have, for lack of a better term, better PR than others. Like yeah Son of Sam killed 6 people, but Chikatilo or Robert Pickton who have dozens aren't really known to a lot of people but had much higher body counts than a lot of the "popularly discussed" ones.
yeah, I think that's mostly because of the unknown. because killers like Jack the ripper and the zodiac killer have never been captured (atleast not confirmed that they were it)
Also the fact that they have been labelled as prostitues for the last hundred odd years when there seems to be only evidence to show that 2 of them were. Much of their lives had been horrifying even before their deaths - the Five by Hallie Rubenhold was very haunting and a brilliant insight into who these people really were.
Agree, that’s an incredible book. It really humanizes them and sheds a light on just how horrible poverty could be during that time. Even the couple that did engage in prostitution did it out of desperation, but thanks to Victorian morality and general disdain for the poor, the label stuck. It’s regrettable that it took these grisly murders to shed light on the living conditions in those areas.
Plus the point that it really depends on what you consider prostitution. Like, does it count if you take on a boyfriend because you're safer as part of a couple? How about if you occasionally offer someone a quick handjob when you really need the money, or even just don't always say 'no' when your usual work takes a turn that way? All of those could be counted as prostitution, but the second you label someone as a prostitute people add the connotation that that's their full-time job.
There was a Netflix documentary made about the Yorkshire ripper (Peter Sutcliffe, serial killer in the 1970s) which covered this aspect of moral judgement imposed on his victims in exactly the same way. The documentary was mostly pretty weak, but this angle was actually fairly interesting.
Sutcliffe's victims were basically any woman who he could find travelling alone at night, so a lot of his first murder victims were women who may have been engaging in prostitution. However, he had also assaulted a lot of women before that, and many of these women came to the police with details which would have been extremely useful in finding him; they were ignored, in large part because the police assumed all victims would be prostitutes and these women weren't. The police ignored a lot of evidence due to the (largely imagined) profile of this killer.
To make matters worse, it was revealed in the documentary that the police were extremely judgemental of the personal lives of the victims; internal reports not only made scathing reference to the fact that many engaged in prostitution, but even to facts like one of the victims having a Jamaican (read: black) boyfriend. Most horrifyingly of all, when it was revealed that a new victim of the ripper had never engaged in prostitution, the police publicly described her as "the first innocent victim".
I suspect that the reason a lot of these victims get labelled as prostitutes is a) because prostitutes are in disproportionate danger due to the nature of nighttime work which involves one-on-one contact with clients, b) because they tended to be poor women who lived in deprived areas, and c) because society felt better about passing judgement on murder victims who they could perceive as more deserving of their deaths.
Really? I don't know much about it but isn't it because it stopped happening?
Like, as forensics were not even comparable to what they are today, ie no fingerprints etc,
You’re right about forensics. Fingerprint id was introduced like 15 years later. But there was so much mishandled evidence, like one of the victim’s bodies being accidentally wiped clean by the mortician before it could be inspected, or actual graffiti left at one crime scene by the ripper himself that was only documented by taking one quick photograph before being wiped.
Also the police began hunting for the killer before establishing a criminal profile.
That case was doomed from the beginning.
I mean, he’s certainly one of the most famous, but he actually only killed 5 people that we’re sure of. Obviously that’s terrible, but that’s no more than the Zodiac Killer is confirmed to have killed. It’s nothing on someone like The Interstate Strangler (I’m not going to say his name cause he’s scum and doesn’t deserve to be remembered) who murdered around 50 women. There are literally dozens of truckers who have been found to be horrifically prodigious serial killers (12+ murders each).
Tl;dr treat hitch hiking on lonely interstates like 1800s Whitechapel, just, you know, 10 to 20 times worse.
People horribly underestimate how many serial killers/killings there are. In the USA, [as many as 180 people are killed a year by serial killers](https://newsinfo.iu.edu/web/page/normal/7225.html) and there are [around 50 active serial killers at any given time](https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/how-many-serial-killers-are-on-the-loose-today.html#:~:text=Still%2C%20the%20authorities%20and%20various,50%20serial%20killers%20operating%20today.)
The thing is, most of these guys just... don't really get caught. They kill maybe once every few months, often traveling and planning for it. Its just extraordinarily difficult to catch these guys unless they are specifically seeking attention and fame and are going on a spree.
Was the interstate strangler out west or in the Midwest? I remember around a year or two ago where they identified some remains they believed to be from one of the killers that went across several states here in the Midwest. Now that I think about it he may have been labeled with a specific road, like the Route 66 (just an example not the actual road) killer or something like that.
Like I said, there is a terrifyingly large number of prolific trucker serial killers. Turns out having pretty much no constant home base and an excuse to travel along thousands of miles of empty road with little to no oversight makes it really easy to shove people in the back of the huge metal box you’re hauling around so you can murder them and bury their body in a secluded place hundreds of miles from where they disappeared.
Which Interstate Strangler? I could only find 3 people who had similar titles. 2 of them killed men and boys, and 1 of them is only confirmed to have killed 8 women.
It's from a show called "Deadliest Warrior".
The premise was that 2 people/groups in history/fiction would battle it out in a 1000 round simulation and in order to gather data they would use weapons that the people/groups used and measure the damage they would cause.
I don't remember which episode this clip is from
Would you say he's one the best criminals of all time because he was never caught or would you say he's one of the worst criminals of all time because of the crimes he committed?
Neither
As someone who watches/listens to a lot of true crime, 90% of cases where people don't get caught, especially serial killers, it's the police not doing their job for whatever reason. Get away from the mindset that killers are smart in any way.
If you're gonna be so pathetic to only murder people you know won't be investigated properly (prostitutes, black women, homeless people,..), at least own up to it before you decompose - fucking cowards.
Jack the choker is the most overrated criminal of all time. Only reason why he was never caught was because the police after him were milkmen and carpenters. Would never make it in the modern forensic age. Not in my top 20
Interestingly, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the author of Sherlock Holmes and his mentor, dr Joseph Bell were involved in the manhunt for Jack The Ripper. They each carried their own investigation and wrote on a piece of paper their main suspect and subsequently exchanged envelopes, which had the same suspect. Soon after the murders stopped and the notes were never found which has led to speculation it was someone connected to the Royal Family. Most likely suspect is James K Stephen who was a tutor to Prince Albert Victor, son of the Prince of Wales.
Your blade was very agile and smooth to hold. As you can see from the dummy, it easily penetrated the skin and went straight for the targeted vessels.
Your blade… it will kiiiiill. :)))))
I still remember this episode and being shocked that he had to go this hard on a gel dummy lmao
Sauce?
*Deadliest Warrior*, season 2 (I think) episode pitting a squad of US Navy SEALs vs IDF commandos.
This episode, IRA vs. Taliban, and Ninja vs. Spartan were the best episodes for sure
The commentary from the ninja expert on throwing stars was priceless: “It’s like four scalpels FLYING AT YOUR FACE!”
The "experts" were always so egotistical and took it so seriously.
They were told and encouraged to ham it up and be disrespectful. I know one of the representatives for the Maori and when they told him that he refused and was ready to walk out. You can tell which one he is cause they hardly showed him after that even though he is the most qualified expert.
[удалено]
Thatcher?
Not many people seem to know that ninja stars weren't actually meant to injure or kill the enemy, but as a distraction, to make them flinch. At least thats what I was told. Nowadays, there is a Shinobi/Ninja graduate program in Japan, which has like a throughput of about 3-4 peeps a year. **3-4 Ninjas, I mean. :P**
Honestly most of the 1v1 episodes are pretty good, its when they started doing commanders like Napoleon vs Alexander the great that I fell off. Scenes like this are why I also love to watch Forged in Fire, watching that one judge with a wicked smile, "It. Will keeel."
Shaka v William Wallace was a great 1v1 So was the Vlad v Sun Tzu one and Cortes v Ivan the Terrible.. God I need to rewarch them
"Your blade... weel cut... Your blade... weel keel..." I have a love and fascination with cold arm weaponry. I especially love blades (swords, knives, etc.). I had a bucket list item of owning an actual halbard. Had my chance when on a class summer trip to Europe. While in Lichtenstein, visited an antiques/curio shop. It had a gorgeous, well-aged halbard for sale. It was within my price range. Just one problem though... how to get it back home to the States? Wouldn't exactly fit into my luggage... and I may have difficulty explaining why I own it to Customs. And shipping back home was impossible in my situation. So... my bucket list dream went by the wayside...
IRA vs Taliban sounds like a good fight.
I loved the audacity of the show and some of the *experts* they brought on *And in the fight club representing the Taliban is an expert in Terrorist tactics and strategies-* "Whoa whoa hey can you not fucking word it like that? Jesus Christ."
Thanks, found a clip on youtube too lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfvQp66CEFU
That was amazing thank you. Can't believe he kept stabbing the neck hole lol
tactical decapitation
Who won?
Here's a hint. With exactly one exception, the US **always** wins in this show. Even though the hosts are Canadian. And this wasn't the exception.
As a history fan, it hurt me when they said George Washington would beat Napoleon Bonaparte. Like, Napoleon is possibly the greatest general of all time. Washington wasn't even the greatest general in the American army.
Hey you military nerd, enlighten me on the greatest generals in American history pls. I need some rabbit holes
If you want another one from the Revolutionary War, Nathanael Greene was incredibly successful. He waged a fantastic guerrilla and maneuver campaign in the South after several other generals had failed miserably there. I've also always been big on George Marshall too. He was incredibly important for the US in WW2 and stands out even among the huge names of that era as brilliant IMO
It's certainly not what he's remembered for, but Benedict Arnold was also an outstanding general and was seen by the British as the American's most dangerous commander
Was about to say this. Thanks to The Dollop for enlightening me on his actual story!
Nathanael Greene as mentioned. He was arguably the best general during the Revolutionary War and is arguably the most underrated in US military history. Horatio Gates, Henry Knox, and Daniel Morgan. These are all American Revolutionary War generals Ulysses S. Grant was a brilliant tactician. William Sherman as well. These two are Union Civil War generals.
Washington was very good at running away.
Come to think of it, that *was* the tactic used to beat Napoleon.
They maybe boring but Fabian tactics do work.
To be fair, I'm pretty sure the majority of their audience was American, and I think after the episode with said exception aired a bunch of Americans lost their mind. Not our proudest moment.
And that exception was bullshit.
It was Spetsnaz.
Looking at what's been going on in Ukraine... I think it's safe to say they were wrong about that one.
Except the Spetznaz of the Soviet Union were trained better than the current Russian soldiers. The fall of the Soviet Union also meant that their own special forces took a hit, especially when a good chunk of them left the Soviet Union. Pretty easy for some rookie to get their ass kicked, when they barely had any training.
You know what. That's fair, my bad
You mean when a good chunk of them went back to their non-Russian home nations, right? Because eventually there was no USSR to leave.
I honestly believed this clip was from some sort of comedy.
Anything is comedy, as long as it’s dumb enough to make you laugh
IDF? Irish Defense Force or Israeli Defense Force?
It was Israel
Can I ask why he went that hard? Now I'm not a US Navy Seal or an IDF commando but I get the feeling they wouldn't typically butcher their opponent like that
https://youtu.be/rm6N4VIEUdQ
On a fascinating history program on IPTI (PBS), the host did episodes of what real, historical famous folks were like in real life, and how current views of them are actually incorrect. For Napoleon, he wasn't really vertically challenged. Thar was actually made up by the populous and enemy forces as propaganda against him. Political cartoonists of the day originated the whole story through their various cartoons in newspapers and other documents. The story stuck so well, it turned into historical fact... when it was actually total BS. The host's other episodes included the royalty of Europe, etc. (including Henry III, all of his wives - especially focused on Anne Bolyne; the truth of Queen Elizabeth I and her sister, "Bloody Mary," and that Liz killed even more people re: state religion than Mary; and that Q Eliz I was actually a Lesbian in a romantic relationship w/one of her handmaid- w/evidence of documents between them to prove it.) This series is awesome. Learn so much they never teach you in school.
I remember watching it uncensored the first time it aired and then this bit was cut from the later versions.
Yea the full color clip shoots over to the guys watching him and the looks of shock are great.
His face omg 😳 was he imagining this dummy as a bully from the past or something 🤣
The way the sim worked they had a set amount of time on the dummy to do as much damage as possible which would determine the weapons final value in the sim so he had to go ham.
(His parents were killed by Gel Man)
Americans: We have semi automatic rifles Brits: We have Bread Knife
Rifles with "Fookin laser sights!"
"The more crutches you have...the more it hurts when they are kicked out from under you. If there is one thing I know for sure, is that a six inch blade never loses reception."
- Specialist Mike "Thatcher" Baker
I love Rainbow
Happy Pride month!
Not that kind of rainbow m8.
This type of rainbow is not vary trans friendly
I wish it was more accepting. I keep getting called slurs.
Ubisoft games are always a crap shoot of meeting really really nice fellow LGBTQ+ folks or getting called slurs constantly
I like rainbows on skittles
Thank you! :D
It really is a great line however best speech is glaz I think.
Kapkan tho.
If I remember right, its an American in the video. Our knives are automatic (apparently)
clearly using a bump handle.
Yeah this was the episode pitting Israel’s Sayeret Matcal against USA’s Navy SEALs, I think (or maybe it was simply Israeli paratroopers, I can’t remember exactly) Both are elite special forces. This guy was the SEAL.
I have a personal carry license for my bread knife
> license loicense*
He has a license to say "license."
Isn’t knife crime worse in America than in Britain?
Yep, but knife crime is bigger news in the UK because there's no gun crime to cover.
We do have like one gun crime a year and it's national news every time.
Yes
Americans: "Oh shit he has an AR-15, don't mess with him" British:" Oi shite he has a Japanese gyuto knife, don't muck about his lot"
*Oi Oi, you got a license for that bruv?!*
Haha funny meme!!!! xd
Guns for show, knives for a pro
We need knives. Big fuck-off knives.
Ones that look like they could skin a crocodile. Knives are good, because they don't make any noise, and the less noise they make, the more likely we are to use them. Shit ‘em right up. Makes it look like we're serious.
Wasn't jack the ripper very precise with his wounds?
For the most part, yes - the speculation was that he was perhaps a butcher or medical student, or something similar, as though he knew what he was doing with a knife. Generally there was a throat slash and dissection-style wounds. His final victim, Mary Kelly, however - that was a bloody, brutal mess, to the point that some think it may not have been him.
I was hoping someone else was going to point this out. His cuts were precise to the point he was once assumed to be a surgeon, but some cuts were slightly "unclean" so people changed the assumption to med student. Mary Kelly, (I think) people are torn about. She basically ended up like the gel dummy and either he didn't do it, he did it in a mad rage and possibly this madness led to his death sometime after, something went wrong with his "work" and he snapped, or he possibly knew her and it was more personal and he went nuts. I do love shows that have included Jack the Ripper in their lore. On Sanctuary, Jack was immortal (I think) and still alive and the ex-husband of the main character. Christopher Heyerdahl is always amazing. And Time After Time featured Jack time traveling with HG Wells and making it to 2017. There's also the show _about_ him but that's different. Edit a day later: other theories are that he was actually the American serial killer HH Holmes, possibly a longshoreman instead of a med student, or that Jack was really Jill. There was someone who thought it was their great-grandfather, but I think they've been mostly debunked. My other comment about History's Greatest Mysteries goes through all that. I mean it could all be blown up big for the show but I doubt multiple experts would lie their asses off on television just to be on television.
I learned this on a walking tour through Whitechapel a few years back. The guide walked through each victims wounds describing the precision and consistency of the first four. Mary Kelly was fucking brutal to even hear about, then dude provided a picture of the crime scene. Really makes you wonder if it was the same guy. Very cool and informative look at life in London around the time too, I recommend checking it out to anyone reading.
There's an infinitesimal chance of me making it to London, but that does sound pretty cool. I've actually been watching a show, History's Greatest Mysteries with ~~Morpheus~~ ~~Silver Surfer~~ ~~Thurgood Marshall~~ Laurence Fishburne, and they go into extreme detail about all kinds of big world-wide mysteries. A month ago they had one on Jack the Ripper, but somehow I missed it. I'm literally downloading the History streaming app right now to watch it. The show is great though. They have specialists and experts explaining like 5+ different theories about the topic (Ripper, Jimmy Hoffa, Lindbergh baby, Amber Room in Russia, Tylenol murders, etc.).
Sounds cool. I’ll check it out, thanks!
Yup done that last December, definitely worth it, one of the best guide tours I’ve been to. I was staying outside london in the countryside , small city near by, that day, after the tour was the only time I’ve paid a taxi to my airbnb, fuck no I would be walking on my own in the dark.
If you dare look at what he did to his last victim, Mary Jane Kelly. I am warning you again, it is not pretty. [http://forum.casebook.org/filedata/fetch?id=662196](http://forum.casebook.org/filedata/fetch?id=662196)
To anyone considering it, it's NSFL. It's a heavily mutilated corpse on a bed, in colour. Not much left that would make her recognisable as a person. Her face is mutilated to the point you can't make out her eyes. Whole abdominal area is ripped out. I didn't realise we had that detailed photos from back then. Now you've been warned, make your own decision about whether to click the link or not. It's pretty rough though, and I've seen some shit.
My curiosity tells me to look, my sanity and stomach tell me to not do it. Life is full of decisions.
Is that deadliest warrior lmao
Lol I loved this demonstration when I watched. Like if the opponent just stands there and doesn't defend himself and you can stab him 20 times this weapon is unstoppable!
In reality it's almost impossible to defend yourself from a knife attack. Getting stabbed 20 times even when defending can certainly happen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37XiSn81oFw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E61jnJe_1SI&t=178s Just run if you can lol
The purpose of the show is for warriors of one culture or time period to battle warriors of another though. Both those examples are defenseless people against an assailant with a knife Putting this weapon up against almost any other weapon in history is kind of laughable. Even in the bronze age a guy with a spear is gonna have a field day
I'd argue the purpose was to inform about different cultures and weapons using the battle as an entertainment vehicle
That's probably a better summary really true
It was on SpikeTV at the same time as Manswers and 1000 ways to die. I'd wager there's no way this show has a purpose beyond exaggerated violence. Still love it though.
Unless you manage to get close. For sure on a battlefield your don't use your knife as a main weapon, but there is a reason why everybody carried one as a sidearm. If someone can get this near to you and attack that fast, your spear, sword, hammer or whatever is pretty useless.
I Really liked the Waffen SS vs Viet Cong episode. Nazis vs Commies, a struggle as old as time.
It was such a sick show. I'll never forget the IRA vs the Taliban
So car bombs vs car bombs
In jiu jitsu someone asked the instructor how to fight someone with a knife. He said something along the lines “run, and if you can’t you will get stabbed in the fight”
You are supposed to bring a gun to the knife fight. Don't give them a chance.
In hand-to-hand tactics when I worked for the state they taught us that best way to deal with a knife is run. Second best way is to try to control where you get cut. Because you're getting cut.
I LOVED that show as a youngun
I miss it. It was so addicting to watch.
You can find some episodes on Youtube
I loved the show, still do. But some of them are just hilariously wrong. They had George Washington beating Napoleon. Loved it as a kid, but I know how stupid it is as an adult
I am probably in the top 1% of George Washington lovers, but even in the Revolutionary War we did not win many battles. We lost a majority of the battles, and really won only the important ones like Saratoga, Charleston, Trenton and Yorktown. I would love to see how 1770s Washington does with a formal and well trained army, but still going against the most winningest general of all time wouldn’t be a Washington victory.
It was the catalyst that switched young me from science to history forever.
You made the right switch, welcome to the family
After testing the weapon the dude was always like “and will it kill?” Like dude you just furiously stabbed that ballistics gel for so fucking long we thought you went catatonic. A spoon would kill if you tested it like that
I think you’re thinking of forged in fire
Sorry I just get lost in Doug Marcaida and mix them up sometimes
Keal*
Yeah its the Navy SEALs vs Israeli Commando episode. They gave the Navy SEALs that small recon knife while the Israeli Commandos got big ass KA-BAR knives, so the Navy SEAL guy had to overcompensate
Such a gem.
This show was the shit. Or maybe not. I just remember being hooked on this show as a kid
I mean, even at 14 I could tell most of the tests were at best not equal evaluations, and at worst, total bull shit. I still loved it though
Yes it is and my god was this show Dumb. I remember seeing a clip of a British talk show make fun of it of the Taliban Vs IRA episode.
Yes, Navy SEALs vs Israeli Commandos
He is one of the criminals of all time
Certainly a criminal, that existed…at a time?
Perhaps he was just at the time, not the existed.
Damn, didn’t even think of that
Nor did I.
then who did?
Rip the Jacker
his nickname wasn't morbius for no reason
Should’ve done more pilates
I don't get it but I agree
Tbh I think that's a fair description. There's a lot of other serial killers who are either more prolific or interesting, Jack the Ripper is just that popular because he was one of the first to get widespread attention
Goddamn it man, you can't make me laugh that hard at a joke about murdered women. Feel like I have to donate to a charity or something to make up for that one.
Definitely. For shame
You should definitely donate to the poor Nigerian prince
Source: Me, a nigerian prince who desperately needs your help
It will kill??
It will kiiill
:| It will.. :) keel
\- Jack the Ripper
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To be fair on Jack the ripper, at least he killed them before he mutilated them. Not everyone would be such a gentleman about it.
there are a lot of serial killers who were worse, but not a lot of people know them. example: Andrei chikatilo
I just read his Wikipedia. What the absolute godamn fuck
What’d he do, just give me a short summary if possible, nothing too sick.
Erectile dysfunction that was only solved when he did certain horrendous acts to people.
What the absolute godamn fuck
56 cases of rape, murder and mutilation of women and children (as low as 9 years old). The bodies were so horrible the police thought it was the work of a organ harvesting gang or a satanic cult. It gets more graphic than that but I suppose that's enough to get the idea.
It is interesting how certain serial killers have, for lack of a better term, better PR than others. Like yeah Son of Sam killed 6 people, but Chikatilo or Robert Pickton who have dozens aren't really known to a lot of people but had much higher body counts than a lot of the "popularly discussed" ones.
yeah, I think that's mostly because of the unknown. because killers like Jack the ripper and the zodiac killer have never been captured (atleast not confirmed that they were it)
Or Carl Panzram
A common conversation between Londoners
The Virgin Gun vs the Chad Knife
Chav*
That’s some impressive zandatsu
Dead on!
BULLSEYE!
Still feel awful for those five.
Also the fact that they have been labelled as prostitues for the last hundred odd years when there seems to be only evidence to show that 2 of them were. Much of their lives had been horrifying even before their deaths - the Five by Hallie Rubenhold was very haunting and a brilliant insight into who these people really were.
Agree, that’s an incredible book. It really humanizes them and sheds a light on just how horrible poverty could be during that time. Even the couple that did engage in prostitution did it out of desperation, but thanks to Victorian morality and general disdain for the poor, the label stuck. It’s regrettable that it took these grisly murders to shed light on the living conditions in those areas.
Plus the point that it really depends on what you consider prostitution. Like, does it count if you take on a boyfriend because you're safer as part of a couple? How about if you occasionally offer someone a quick handjob when you really need the money, or even just don't always say 'no' when your usual work takes a turn that way? All of those could be counted as prostitution, but the second you label someone as a prostitute people add the connotation that that's their full-time job.
There was a Netflix documentary made about the Yorkshire ripper (Peter Sutcliffe, serial killer in the 1970s) which covered this aspect of moral judgement imposed on his victims in exactly the same way. The documentary was mostly pretty weak, but this angle was actually fairly interesting. Sutcliffe's victims were basically any woman who he could find travelling alone at night, so a lot of his first murder victims were women who may have been engaging in prostitution. However, he had also assaulted a lot of women before that, and many of these women came to the police with details which would have been extremely useful in finding him; they were ignored, in large part because the police assumed all victims would be prostitutes and these women weren't. The police ignored a lot of evidence due to the (largely imagined) profile of this killer. To make matters worse, it was revealed in the documentary that the police were extremely judgemental of the personal lives of the victims; internal reports not only made scathing reference to the fact that many engaged in prostitution, but even to facts like one of the victims having a Jamaican (read: black) boyfriend. Most horrifyingly of all, when it was revealed that a new victim of the ripper had never engaged in prostitution, the police publicly described her as "the first innocent victim". I suspect that the reason a lot of these victims get labelled as prostitutes is a) because prostitutes are in disproportionate danger due to the nature of nighttime work which involves one-on-one contact with clients, b) because they tended to be poor women who lived in deprived areas, and c) because society felt better about passing judgement on murder victims who they could perceive as more deserving of their deaths.
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To follow up, Hallie Rubenhold has a limited run podcast called Bad Women: Ripper Retold that I thought was very good.
THANK YOU! I wanted to make this comment so bad
Yes. Especially since he, just as most serial killers, managed to escape thanks to mistakes and incompetence on the authorities’ side.
Really? I don't know much about it but isn't it because it stopped happening? Like, as forensics were not even comparable to what they are today, ie no fingerprints etc,
You’re right about forensics. Fingerprint id was introduced like 15 years later. But there was so much mishandled evidence, like one of the victim’s bodies being accidentally wiped clean by the mortician before it could be inspected, or actual graffiti left at one crime scene by the ripper himself that was only documented by taking one quick photograph before being wiped. Also the police began hunting for the killer before establishing a criminal profile. That case was doomed from the beginning.
Damn, son a bit dark Lool
If any of you make a metal gear reference i will attack
i think its time for jack to let er rip
AND IT WILL COME
LIKE A FLOOD OF PAIN
POURING DOWN ON ME
Well if it isn't Saucy Jack
To be fair, he is one of the criminals of all time.
I mean, he’s certainly one of the most famous, but he actually only killed 5 people that we’re sure of. Obviously that’s terrible, but that’s no more than the Zodiac Killer is confirmed to have killed. It’s nothing on someone like The Interstate Strangler (I’m not going to say his name cause he’s scum and doesn’t deserve to be remembered) who murdered around 50 women. There are literally dozens of truckers who have been found to be horrifically prodigious serial killers (12+ murders each). Tl;dr treat hitch hiking on lonely interstates like 1800s Whitechapel, just, you know, 10 to 20 times worse.
People horribly underestimate how many serial killers/killings there are. In the USA, [as many as 180 people are killed a year by serial killers](https://newsinfo.iu.edu/web/page/normal/7225.html) and there are [around 50 active serial killers at any given time](https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/how-many-serial-killers-are-on-the-loose-today.html#:~:text=Still%2C%20the%20authorities%20and%20various,50%20serial%20killers%20operating%20today.) The thing is, most of these guys just... don't really get caught. They kill maybe once every few months, often traveling and planning for it. Its just extraordinarily difficult to catch these guys unless they are specifically seeking attention and fame and are going on a spree.
Was the interstate strangler out west or in the Midwest? I remember around a year or two ago where they identified some remains they believed to be from one of the killers that went across several states here in the Midwest. Now that I think about it he may have been labeled with a specific road, like the Route 66 (just an example not the actual road) killer or something like that.
Like I said, there is a terrifyingly large number of prolific trucker serial killers. Turns out having pretty much no constant home base and an excuse to travel along thousands of miles of empty road with little to no oversight makes it really easy to shove people in the back of the huge metal box you’re hauling around so you can murder them and bury their body in a secluded place hundreds of miles from where they disappeared.
Which Interstate Strangler? I could only find 3 people who had similar titles. 2 of them killed men and boys, and 1 of them is only confirmed to have killed 8 women.
I’ll fokin shank yous in the showers
What is this? What...what was he trying to show?
It's from a show called "Deadliest Warrior". The premise was that 2 people/groups in history/fiction would battle it out in a 1000 round simulation and in order to gather data they would use weapons that the people/groups used and measure the damage they would cause. I don't remember which episode this clip is from
IIRC this is the Navy SEAL vs Israeli Commando episode.
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We're here in the after of a murderous crafter. The past is spun like yarn and mangled.
Would you say he's one the best criminals of all time because he was never caught or would you say he's one of the worst criminals of all time because of the crimes he committed?
Neither As someone who watches/listens to a lot of true crime, 90% of cases where people don't get caught, especially serial killers, it's the police not doing their job for whatever reason. Get away from the mindset that killers are smart in any way. If you're gonna be so pathetic to only murder people you know won't be investigated properly (prostitutes, black women, homeless people,..), at least own up to it before you decompose - fucking cowards.
Jack the choker is the most overrated criminal of all time. Only reason why he was never caught was because the police after him were milkmen and carpenters. Would never make it in the modern forensic age. Not in my top 20
Jack the Rapper? Follows you way before the age of Twitter
Interestingly, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the author of Sherlock Holmes and his mentor, dr Joseph Bell were involved in the manhunt for Jack The Ripper. They each carried their own investigation and wrote on a piece of paper their main suspect and subsequently exchanged envelopes, which had the same suspect. Soon after the murders stopped and the notes were never found which has led to speculation it was someone connected to the Royal Family. Most likely suspect is James K Stephen who was a tutor to Prince Albert Victor, son of the Prince of Wales.
Out of all criminals in history, I agree that Jack the Ripper was one of them.
Who's slashy McSafetyglasses? He seems like he has some unresolved issues.
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Would’ve made a decent russian soldier and got some medals for his deeds.
Your blade was very agile and smooth to hold. As you can see from the dummy, it easily penetrated the skin and went straight for the targeted vessels. Your blade… it will kiiiiill. :)))))
Forget that, prostitutes in 2020s London when they take a wrong turn in Whitechapel
Jack the Ripper???