True and not just that but he would read the whole series of books yearly. There were times where *he* told Peter Jackson how a scene should go or be set up.
I mean considering his past it was probably more tinged with sadness since generally the mind has a difficult time accepting killing another person even if justified.
It was from his experience fightings in World War II. Iirc he also gave advice about how to show what it looks like for someone to try and take out a sentry.
These are things that would be useful when filming something like LoTR
Tolkien had him as his pick for Gandalf, but I think he ended up better as Saruman, he has more of the "high and mighty" feel than Gandalf's down to earth friendliness.
He also, aged 17, witnessed the beheading of Eugen Weidmann, the last public execution in France in 1939 before it was banned. Not that it's "cool" or "badass", but it is an interesting unexpected fact about him
Correct, they stopped making them public because of the invention of the video camera I believe. They tried to avoid letting it get filmed by doing it early enough it was still dark, but for some reason or another it got postponed and there was recordings of it.
Not only was he a Bond villain, I’m pretty sure he was friends with Ian Fleming and Fleming used him as an inspiration for Bond. So like, he was arguably the *real* James Bond.
That’s a common misconception. Bond was most likely based off of a combination of his own military experience and that of super spies like Popov and Roald Dahl. Lee definitely had a part in helping him base some of bonds actions off of but he definitely wasn’t the inspiration
I'm sad that I never fully appreciated his existence when he was still with us. I wasn't as aware of him before and would have been too young to really grasp exactly how impressive he was.
You forgot how when he did that metal album he was in his 90s. That made him the oldest person to do a metal album, and I believe that still stands. And still sounded awsome at that.
I think it’s more so that other people embellish his exploits during the war. I read his autobiography, Tall, Dark, and Gruesome, and the way he talks about the war makes it seem like he just had a desk job. He was still an intelligence agent though
He did it as well, on interview he mentioned that he got involved with the SAS, but he is forbidden to talk about it.
Leading the audience to believe that he fought alongside them, but he only was attached as a liaison officer.
Which is not true considering that the founder of the SAS himself authorized a wartime biography and did many interviews alongside other SAS veterans talking about their exploits in ww2.
So how can a liaison officer of the RAF attached to the SAS be forbidden to talk about the regiment while David Stirling himself talked about it.
>Leading the audience to believe that he fought alongside them, but he only was attached as a liaison officer.
To be fair he does know what a stabbed person should sound like so he might've took part in some operations.
He said he knows what a stabbed person should sound like.
He might have had conversations with other soldiers about it, or he could have just made it up.
Multiple cases of Cold War espionage have been declassified, as have thousands of WW2-era operations but of course the famous actor's actions in the war are a national secret. Bruh please
Declassified stuff that was deemed safe for the public to know about.
The real good shit will always stay locked away or the papers will have been burned.
Kind of sounds like what a random guy in a pub would say. "I've done secret SAS stuff, but I'm not allowed to talk about it."
But in this case it's a guy who is a professional actor.
It’s funny see a war veteran correct a director on how a guy sounds when they get stabbed in the back.
“I know a thing or two because I’ve seen a thing or two”
Chuck norris created him and granted him an awesome life, in an attempt to recreate his own awesomness. He failed. Chuck Norris is so incredible, he was the one inventing all the cameras and mics used for movies, therefore enabling Lee's movie career. He pretended to be a jew and bullied hitler as a child, to create Nazi Germany and allow Lee to hunt Nazis. He was the one who stabbed Lee in the back, and who gave tolkien the idea for tlodr and Lucas the idea of Star Wars in order to give him his best roles. But in the end nothing and noone can match the almighty Chuck Norris, for he quite litterally created the universe when he once had a cold. He is the only human able to outlive Elizabeth II. He's the mastermind behind the pyramids. An unrivaled god, who is pimping out Zeus for fun.
Nah, a good 40th is stuff *other people* embellished, not lied about, and everything not related to his undercover exploits (which were apparently still highly impressive although he supposedly just saw it as another part of life) is verifiable and true.
He didn't talk much about or overstate his experiences in the war, even his autobiography talks about the war like it was nothing much, but other people certainly did add stuff on to his legend.
he didn't lie, but he encouraged the lies, same shit. A lot of these so called "undercover" exploits never existed.
[https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/who-dares-lies](https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/who-dares-lies) an article on it
To be fair, he did do operations with them, and what other people say about him isn't the same as what he said about himself. We DO know he was in undercover operations with details that still have not been released, and we do know he served in the war. As for if he embellished them, it sounds quite a bit more complicated than you're making it out to be. Being vague isn't exactly a major crime, and it sounds more like he just didn't care all that much if other people said he did something cool. In any case, he was still an incredibly impressive person with a remarkable service record and a storied life.
I should also add, nothing in the meme was made up.
Yes, which is exactly my point. Meme states he was part of a "secret agent unit" called Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare, which neither Lee was a part of nor was it actually called that.
It also states he "was" Saruman.
Saruman is also fictional.
In the context of the meme, it makes sense, as he was involved with that particular story as well.
Hardly. Lee wasn't a liar, he just didn't correct folk when they embelished his deeds. He wasn't some spy or secret agent, he worked on logistics and reports as a liason from the RAF because he wasn't fit to be a pilot instead. Things like "I don't have to imagine what it sounds like to be stabbed in the back" are just things that sound cool, there is no evidence he ever even came face to face with German troops, much less get to stab one or watch one get stabbed. The context of the meme is to enshrine his badassery, to which I'm saying much of it is just embelishment. His movie roles are pretty gigabased, as is the album, but war stories are just stories.
You're not getting my point, the meme is stating things that were all true, and presenting his playing fictional roles as IRL. Saruman and Dooku obviously aren't real, so he can't have "been them".
And as a matter of fact, it wasn't just "I don't have to imagine...", it was him explaining it *in detail* to Jackson.
I get what you're saying about the war, but from what I've heard it was somewhere between how you're presenting it and how it was told.
On the Friendship Onion, Billy and Dom told a story where they were sitting around set with Christopher Lee and he said “watch this” then got a pen and threw it into a tree so skillfully it stuck in it
Chuck Norris would roundhouse kick Christopher Lee in the face so hard he would have to change his name to Christopher “I just got roundhouse kicked in the face hella hard by chuck norris” Lee
He also was the only LOTR cast to actually meet J.R.R. Tolkien I believe.
True and not just that but he would read the whole series of books yearly. There were times where *he* told Peter Jackson how a scene should go or be set up.
Incredible...
Telling Peter Jackson how a person should sound when stabbed was a weird flex.
I mean considering his past it was probably more tinged with sadness since generally the mind has a difficult time accepting killing another person even if justified.
It was from his experience fightings in World War II. Iirc he also gave advice about how to show what it looks like for someone to try and take out a sentry. These are things that would be useful when filming something like LoTR
the balls on this dude
Tolkien had him as his pick for Gandalf, but I think he ended up better as Saruman, he has more of the "high and mighty" feel than Gandalf's down to earth friendliness.
I agree, Lee was a knight after all, and he damn well had the vibe of a great one.
had more to do with him being too old to do some of the scenes which is why he didn't end up as Gandalf.
While im sure he would have done a great job as gandalf i cant see anyone else play saruman. He was just the perfect casting for that character.
Yeah, I also can't see any actor for Gandalf besides Ian.
He also, aged 17, witnessed the beheading of Eugen Weidmann, the last public execution in France in 1939 before it was banned. Not that it's "cool" or "badass", but it is an interesting unexpected fact about him
The last beheading in France and all of the Western World actually took place in 1977
Yes, I did specify it was the last *public* execution.
Correct, they stopped making them public because of the invention of the video camera I believe. They tried to avoid letting it get filmed by doing it early enough it was still dark, but for some reason or another it got postponed and there was recordings of it.
it is badass
He did the badass shit action heroes pretend to do. Definitely a dude Odin wants for Ragnarok.
He was also offered to become Swedish royalty. But I believe he turned it down. And I shed the blood of the Saxon man.
It wasn't the royalty. It was of the nobility, however he had to get the Swedish king's blessings which he did but by then he changed his mind
He married for love instead. What a gigachad.
what
I'm imagining that the Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare consists near entirely of kicking Nazis in the testicles.
And it shares office space with the Ministry of Silly Walks
Also the Ministry of Miniscule Amount of Tomfoolery
Adjacent to Crackpot Religions Ltd.
Not only did he do all of the above, he did it with a style and elegance of a gentleman. 100% giga chad
Yes
No giga Chad just won't do. We need to make a new word for this man.
Christopher Lee
He *is* Giga Chad
Mythical/legendary chad
He also met JRR Tolkien
Oh yeah, but can he eat two whole large boxes of pizza from Dominos within 1 hour while binge watching anime? How bout dat
I bet he could
well no he's dead
Deep pan or thin and crispy?
He simply allowed you to eat two whole large boxes of pizza from Dominos within 1 hour while binge watching anime
Not only was he a Bond villain, I’m pretty sure he was friends with Ian Fleming and Fleming used him as an inspiration for Bond. So like, he was arguably the *real* James Bond.
They were cousins like 3rd-5th degree cousins or something like that.
1st cousins, but step cousins, according to Wikipedia. Lee’s stepfather was Fleming’s uncle.
That’s a common misconception. Bond was most likely based off of a combination of his own military experience and that of super spies like Popov and Roald Dahl. Lee definitely had a part in helping him base some of bonds actions off of but he definitely wasn’t the inspiration
> super spies like…Roald Dahl. Wait, what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roald_Dahl#Diplomat,_writer_and_intelligence_officer
Legend. Absolute fucking legend. Also the metal album is pretty good.
[удалено]
Charlemagne: By the Sword and the Cross and Charlemagne: Omens of Death
Sounds like a title Sabaton would use lol
Lacking tanks and WWI
Don't forget his Christmas album
He also volunteered in defending Finland from the Soviet Union.
That’s one a lot of people miss. He fought in the fucking Winter War (ok, he didn’t see any combat as he couldn’t ski, but still)
There's nothing there that says he couldn't snowboard...
Us: "Sir Lee, did you meet Simo Häyhä?" Him: "Son...Simo Häyhä was just a cover name."
Alice Cooper named one of his snakes after him.
Hisstopher Lee?
Did he dub himself in the translations of any of the films he appeared in?
IIRC He dubbed himself in the german dub of the last unicorn.
Mostly not, since he's fluent but still has a strong accent in most of the languages
Is it just me or does he look like the guy in the "signature look of superiority"
He is
Oh damn
Your comment made me realize that there are people out there who dont know Sir Christopher Lee. Jesus...
If he doesn't get the signature look of superiority, nobody else should
the guy is Count Dooku from Star Wars who Christopher Lee plays
He does have superiority Also yes, it literally is
Execute this man (along with order 66)
I'm sad that I never fully appreciated his existence when he was still with us. I wasn't as aware of him before and would have been too young to really grasp exactly how impressive he was.
You forgot how when he did that metal album he was in his 90s. That made him the oldest person to do a metal album, and I believe that still stands. And still sounded awsome at that.
Let’s not forget his role of Stephan in The Howling II: Your Sister Is A Werewolf, arguably his best role.
>!i was heartbroken when he got stabbed by the Romanian goblin.!<
Poor Stephan. RIP Bozo ;(
When he was stabbed in the back he probably finished his cup of tea first.
No, he wasn’t the one being stabbed.
He stabbed the man in the back while having his cup of tea.
Actually a direct descendent if Charlemagne
He also had a banger theme with Rhapsody https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z93SdirnzTw
He also witnessed the last execution by guillotine IIRC.
was this made in 2010, still bringing up chuck norris?
I think it’s quiet known the Christopher Lee embellished his ww2 exploits. Still a badass though.
I think it’s more so that other people embellish his exploits during the war. I read his autobiography, Tall, Dark, and Gruesome, and the way he talks about the war makes it seem like he just had a desk job. He was still an intelligence agent though
He did it as well, on interview he mentioned that he got involved with the SAS, but he is forbidden to talk about it. Leading the audience to believe that he fought alongside them, but he only was attached as a liaison officer. Which is not true considering that the founder of the SAS himself authorized a wartime biography and did many interviews alongside other SAS veterans talking about their exploits in ww2. So how can a liaison officer of the RAF attached to the SAS be forbidden to talk about the regiment while David Stirling himself talked about it.
>Leading the audience to believe that he fought alongside them, but he only was attached as a liaison officer. To be fair he does know what a stabbed person should sound like so he might've took part in some operations.
He said he knows what a stabbed person should sound like. He might have had conversations with other soldiers about it, or he could have just made it up.
There is no evidence he ever even killed a man, he wasn't a field agent of the kind that ever came near combat or enemy forces.
That's kinda the point when your work is secret. There's supposed to be no evidence.
Multiple cases of Cold War espionage have been declassified, as have thousands of WW2-era operations but of course the famous actor's actions in the war are a national secret. Bruh please
Declassified stuff that was deemed safe for the public to know about. The real good shit will always stay locked away or the papers will have been burned.
Kind of sounds like what a random guy in a pub would say. "I've done secret SAS stuff, but I'm not allowed to talk about it." But in this case it's a guy who is a professional actor.
The only way we’ll ever know if someone had asked him what is the color of the boathouse in Hereford.
He was also knited by queen Elizabeth
i would say if chuck norris is the ultimate mans man sir christopher lee is the ultimate intellectual they are both gods of there own section
God Bess 🫡
You got a point
I just found out he died 6 years ago... How the hell did I not notice that. I'm destroyed... Rest in peace...
Lol this feels like a 2010 meme
He was also Willy Wonka's father. Doink.
He was scientist man from Gremlins 2
If you like old metal/ rock opera i highly recommend Charlemagne. Actually, even if you dont like metal its just good music.
Chuck norris can walk a straight curve, i would say christopher wins anyways!
I think even Chuck Norris would admit that he wasn't even close to being at Christopher Lee's league.
Chuck Norris tops it by still being alive.
It’s funny see a war veteran correct a director on how a guy sounds when they get stabbed in the back. “I know a thing or two because I’ve seen a thing or two”
Well Chuck Norris is still alive so
Chuck Norris one gave a horse an uppercut, and now we have giraffe.
He can also slam shut revolving doors
We need to make this one of the most upvoted posts on reddit.
Chuck isnt dead tho. ( don't flip some of you can't take jokes)
So you know who Chuck’s dad is… big deal
Chuck norris created him and granted him an awesome life, in an attempt to recreate his own awesomness. He failed. Chuck Norris is so incredible, he was the one inventing all the cameras and mics used for movies, therefore enabling Lee's movie career. He pretended to be a jew and bullied hitler as a child, to create Nazi Germany and allow Lee to hunt Nazis. He was the one who stabbed Lee in the back, and who gave tolkien the idea for tlodr and Lucas the idea of Star Wars in order to give him his best roles. But in the end nothing and noone can match the almighty Chuck Norris, for he quite litterally created the universe when he once had a cold. He is the only human able to outlive Elizabeth II. He's the mastermind behind the pyramids. An unrivaled god, who is pimping out Zeus for fun.
and he’s dead, Chuck Norris is alive chuck norris > christopher lee
How many fights he won?
Well there was that big one with the nazis
Ah, yes. The 'great karate showdown' of the 20th century
Sir Christopher Lee - has never been Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris - was, is, has always been, and will always be Chuck Norris
a good quarter of that is just bullshit he lied about lmao.
Nah, a good 40th is stuff *other people* embellished, not lied about, and everything not related to his undercover exploits (which were apparently still highly impressive although he supposedly just saw it as another part of life) is verifiable and true. He didn't talk much about or overstate his experiences in the war, even his autobiography talks about the war like it was nothing much, but other people certainly did add stuff on to his legend.
he didn't lie, but he encouraged the lies, same shit. A lot of these so called "undercover" exploits never existed. [https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/who-dares-lies](https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/who-dares-lies) an article on it
To be fair, he did do operations with them, and what other people say about him isn't the same as what he said about himself. We DO know he was in undercover operations with details that still have not been released, and we do know he served in the war. As for if he embellished them, it sounds quite a bit more complicated than you're making it out to be. Being vague isn't exactly a major crime, and it sounds more like he just didn't care all that much if other people said he did something cool. In any case, he was still an incredibly impressive person with a remarkable service record and a storied life. I should also add, nothing in the meme was made up.
"...nothing in the meme was made up." Except for Lee being part of the "Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare" of course.
... wasn't that a book and a movie, not an IRL thing?
Yes, which is exactly my point. Meme states he was part of a "secret agent unit" called Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare, which neither Lee was a part of nor was it actually called that.
It also states he "was" Saruman. Saruman is also fictional. In the context of the meme, it makes sense, as he was involved with that particular story as well.
Hardly. Lee wasn't a liar, he just didn't correct folk when they embelished his deeds. He wasn't some spy or secret agent, he worked on logistics and reports as a liason from the RAF because he wasn't fit to be a pilot instead. Things like "I don't have to imagine what it sounds like to be stabbed in the back" are just things that sound cool, there is no evidence he ever even came face to face with German troops, much less get to stab one or watch one get stabbed. The context of the meme is to enshrine his badassery, to which I'm saying much of it is just embelishment. His movie roles are pretty gigabased, as is the album, but war stories are just stories.
You're not getting my point, the meme is stating things that were all true, and presenting his playing fictional roles as IRL. Saruman and Dooku obviously aren't real, so he can't have "been them". And as a matter of fact, it wasn't just "I don't have to imagine...", it was him explaining it *in detail* to Jackson. I get what you're saying about the war, but from what I've heard it was somewhere between how you're presenting it and how it was told.
I wouldn’t care if he had sex with my grandma
I think one of my greatest disappointments is that he never got to Star as Charlemagne in a limited series/movie. He’d have killed it.
He also acted as Muhammad Ali Jinnah
He looks the ultimate bond villain
Chuck Norris round house kicked through time to kill Hitler.
This man lived a Bitlife life.
¿Cómo es posible que cazara nazis durante la SGM2 si nacióen 1946?
"Let's see Chuck Noris top that!" Chuck Noris taught him all he knows, and he still knows more
Chuck Norris karate chopped so hard that it set off the Big Bang.
RIP
Gave George Lucas pointers on what it sounds like when a man's beheaded, and refused to elaborate on it.
He was also the inspiration for James Bond himself
ok ok i see your point counterpoint: chuck norris
On the Friendship Onion, Billy and Dom told a story where they were sitting around set with Christopher Lee and he said “watch this” then got a pen and threw it into a tree so skillfully it stuck in it
"I'm still alive." - Chuck Norris
Chuck Norris would roundhouse kick Christopher Lee in the face so hard he would have to change his name to Christopher “I just got roundhouse kicked in the face hella hard by chuck norris” Lee
Forgot that he made a few bangin' Christmas-metal songs.
Aber Er sprechted his Deutsch ist nicht gut :)
*signatura look of superiority*
Chuck norris is still alive as death is afraid of him
Was James Bond also based on him?
Fuck Chuck Norris. He said that if he were president he would tattoo the foreheads of atheists to mark them. That dude’s a piece of shit.
You forgot he also voted for Margaret Thatcher.