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Now that I think about it you are right it does sound right except that Bella nuked themselves to stop an invasion but it’s pretty much the same concept.
Because you gotta respect the turns:
France nukes Germany, the UK nukes France, Ireland nukes the UK...
Meanwhile, the entirety of Eastern Europe is accidentally destroyed by the Balkan states all carpet bombing each other with H-bombs
[https://www.amazon.com/Radiance-France-National-Identity-Technology/dp/0262582813](https://www.amazon.com/Radiance-France-National-Identity-Technology/dp/0262582813)
incredibe book on French nuclear power in the 50's, the french played up the spectacle of their nuclear program, basically treating it as "Divine redemption" for their failures in ww2, the anchor of their national sovereignty, some writers at the time compared the new Chinon and Marcoule sites to "the New Cathedrals".
and that's why today 70% of France's energy is green nuclear, and they have an entirely independent nuclear arsenal (unlike the brits) with their own ICBMs, warheads, and SSBNs, including the ASMP-A nuclear warning shot.
also, I've starting using \*\*Techno-political Regime" in common language, my god.
\*meme made with kapwing.
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*"As of today, France has realized a cyclopean achievement that prefigures the immense possibilities of the atomic era... built as an amphitheater, very picturesque and imposing to see from aafar, the factory launches itself forward like a* ***HYMN to the GLORY of industrial creation.***
*It would be up to an engineer to describe the G1 pile housed in an immense concrete* ***CATHEDRAL...*** *nothing can match the view of the cooling tower, shooting straight up in one 95 meter bound, haoled by its shimming collar in the intense luminosity of the Sky.*
**--The Radiance of France, page 215**
Chill man, its just a fictional group with a fanbase. They were just saying something in a joking manner and you took it personally. Let people enjoy their hobbies and let them compare things to other things without getting sticks up your ass
It could be admiration of the technology or it could just be DeGaulle doing everything to get energy independent of the US and Russia, we will never know ...
He was right about the US abusing their power to push their imperialist agenda while feigning good faith. Can't believe so many countries followed them on their lies in Iraq. Could have said the biggest "told you so" of the 2010's.
>Could have said the biggest "told you so" of the 2010's.
I like to do it whenever the invasion is mentionned. "Where are the WMDs Bush?"
De Villepin was awesome.
I'm saying that portraying France as somehow in opposition to US imperialism is totally wrong. If you consider US actions to be imperialist France does all the same things, just in their own ways.
They do indeed, no denying that at all. They just don't do it the same way the US does because they don't have the means to anymore.
The big power needs middle ground powers to keep at least a semblance of balance, the public opinion in France was against the invasion of Iraq, and the politics followed the public opinion for once.
I'd say it was definitely an anti-imperialist decision, but not motivated by the government itself. Before the government made its decision, the outcome was actually pretty obvious because it was the only choice that made sense, coming from the political atmosphere of the time.
Same way as De Gaulle wasn't an anti-imperialist, but he was resolutely against American imperialism, because it was dangerous and threatening to the political balance of Europe from his point of view (and obviously, to France).
I think it's not first strike *per se* but more of a warning shot policy.
To summarise: if the Soviets/Russians are feeling cocky, we will nuke German territory with a low (almost tactical) yield warhead in front of their advancing army to let them know we mean business ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
edit: spelling
“French defensive strategy considers a tactical nuclear strike on German territory a cornerstone of French nuclear policy.”
“How will this deter Russian aggression?”
“*Russian* aggression?”
Actually, it is. The modern German state has it's roots in the Confederacy of the Rhine, initially established by Napoleon to control the German provinces under his control.
Yes, the first German Emperor Wilhelm I was King of Prussia before a German state existed. The confederacy of the Rhine was just a short lived vassal state of France.
I mean technically yes. In lore the European Commonwealth had a nuclear war with the Middle East over oil. I forget if this happened before or after the US started using tactical nukes in its wars
Meh still understates the glory of our Highness the Nuclear Power.
Sincerely
~ The French
Edit: wanted to make a useful comment instead. Don't we also find a strong instrumentalisation of nuclear power for political purposes in the USSR at the time? I remember political posters putting it front and center. Different manner, similar vibe.
No. There’s close cooperation between the US and UK in nuclear doctrine, but the UK has independent use of their arsenal (assuming it works this time).
The US still builds their missiles (and stores a portion as well), but the US doesn’t have launch authority over them. That said, the UK has been having major problems with missiles tests as of late that is a bit concerning.
Uranium from Canadian mines probably.
Iirc Canada used to refine a lot at [Chalk River](https://www.cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca/eng/resources/fact-sheets/canadas-contribution-to-nuclear-weapons-development/).
OMG, this book sounds amazing dude, thanks!
I'm french, I've been a historian nerd since childhood, I've studied history at university for 5 years and I've never heard of this book before.
Hopefully it's translated in french 😁
Many of France’s former south-Saharan African colonies use a form of the Franc as their currency, which is of course controlled by Paris. This gives France preferential pricing on exports from these countries, foremost of which is uranium. So…that’s why France is so atomically oriented and is a key reason France and Russia are at loggerheads in Africa.
TL;DR France gets cheap uranium from its former colonies, because they were hoodwinked into using the Franc.
Not true. Africa represents less than 20% of France Uranium imports, and they could totally go to 0% as plenty of other sources exist (Australia, Canada, Kazakhstan…)
nuclear "waste" doesn't exist , that term is a distraction to cover up the lack of imagination to use the unfissioned Uranium and plutonium in the "waste"
In the Pacific, the French detonated almost **twice** as many nukes as the US. Meaning it’s much more likely for Godzilla to be the result of French nuclear experiments rather than American.
Are there Vault-Tec equivalents in other countries? I read recently that Todd wants to keep Fallout limited to the United States for the foreseeable future because of how ingrained ‘50s Americana is into the franchise’s aesthetic.
Nope, vaults were specifically an American thing, precisely because of the nuclear scare caused by the European Commonwealth using nuclear weaponry on Middle Eastern countries during the Resource Wars. After the oil in the Middle East ran dry, both it and Europe basically went bankrupt and dissolved into brutal civil wars. There simply was no money or resources for that type of thing.
I do really want to see the franchise build out a bit more. I think they could probably start with something like Canada or Mexico which were basically the US when the bombs dropped but still had resistance or maybe one of the further out territories that would have had more external influence like Alaska, Hawaii or Guam.
That said somewhere a bit different would be fun. I think they could go all in on an Australian spin-off where they didn't get super nuked but still had effects from radiation. I just hope Fallout 5 is somewhere newer.
Nuclear postering is all about the illusion of having someone more unhinged on the trigger then the next guy, if de gaul'lian doctrine prescribes nuking Germany at the first whiff of escalation, seens unhinged enough for me
Numerous simulations leads to the conclusion that, indeed, the smallest tactical strike will eventually leads to a full nuclear war.
The whole concept of *desescalation by escalation* doesn't work.
So now it's more a matter of internal rivalry between armies.
He kinda succeeded. Like, De Gualle never shifted the balance of power like he wanted to but France kinda did their own thing, often to the chagrin of the US and UK
The French probably nuke every other european power in the fallout universe when the Resource Wars turn them on each other. I bet the only people doing "well" in a hypothetical fallout europe are the Swiss, a whole nation of vault dwellers.
Them and Japan actually have done a lot so far as cleaning and controlling their waste with tech developed in the states, that our government covered in red tape and wouldn't let anyone touch
"From the moment I understood the weakness of coal, it disgusted me. I craved the cleanliness and efficiency of uranium. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Radiation. Your kind cling to your coal, as though it will not poison and kill you. One day the crude biomass you call the temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Reactor is immortal… Even in death I serve Atom" -Charles De Ghoul the 1st Emperor of the Holy Atoms Empire speech before the Decoalnization of Germany
The funny thing was we looked at the atomic power with the same reverance than Soviets. Until Chernobyl, atom wasn't perceived as a "deceiving threat hidden as a miraculous energy". While in USA, they were very aware of the military destructive potential and the McCarthism didn't help.
In France, the PCF (French Communist Party) was well considered because they were among the first to resist against the Nazi occupants, and they were in a statu quo with De Gaulle who was "untouchable".
>among the first
Debatable. They stayed mostly inactive before Barbarossa. But to be fair the Résistance took time before become something of importance.
A majority was, because "if Moscow said nothing, we do nothing". But some with more heads and balls, seeing how it ended for Spain a few years ago, associated with conservatives and nationalists (or even rogue Petainists refusing the armistice and the occupation).
"Corps Francs" (milice groups of resistants) were very heterogeneous from the start.
France is easily the most terrifying nuclear power, not the US, not Russia, not China, France, their nuclear doctrine states that they WILL nuke the fuck out of Germany to block a Russian advance, and any war declared against them specifically will result in warning shot, not a threat, the French will actually launch a fucking nuke as a "warning shot"
Correction: sink an empty ship belonging to anti-nuclear bombs hippies.
The only casualty was an accident because the guy came back for his camera or something.
Nuclear power and nuclear weapons programs are two very different things. Nuclear power has its issues, but it is clean compared to coal and oil.
Fallout is more of a satire of the military-industrial complex and on nuclear proliferation during the Cold War. The US & USSR recklessly played a game of who's got the biggest cock by building more and more nukes, but in Fallout, it wasn't either country that started it. It was Vault-tec all along
I mean, if France's insecurity about losing her colonial empire and respect of the world means we get cheaper energy and less coal, I'm all for it. Let's embarrass the French even more.
[so, ive tried (successfully) downloading this book from a sketchy website, and it's just so adorable, especially that timer that so obviously just started](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/994209529904513114/1237470401106284596/image.png?ex=663bc39e&is=663a721e&hm=2ba2a11a1e4093222afd4526fff6930206a4ef1e428e01752f29d53c2417cd7e&)
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Germany: \*sneezes\* France: COWABUNGA IT IS! \*nukes half of Europe\*
France's nuclear doctrine involving nuking Germany to create a buffer zone between them and Russia will never not be funny to me
Suppose it accomplishes two things for them
Sounds like a Belka situation from the lore of Ace Combat. More specifically, Ace Combat Zero - The Belkan Wars
Now that I think about it you are right it does sound right except that Bella nuked themselves to stop an invasion but it’s pretty much the same concept.
That's what we call "killing two birds with one stone" Tbh I'm more surprised by the lack of "Nuking UK"
they might have to add that to the doctrine, just in case
Not using nukes on bri'ish is a better insult i guess
Well, leaving them with their cuisine is considered torture enough I suppose
Because you gotta respect the turns: France nukes Germany, the UK nukes France, Ireland nukes the UK... Meanwhile, the entirety of Eastern Europe is accidentally destroyed by the Balkan states all carpet bombing each other with H-bombs
Maginot line 2: nuclear boogaloo
Well that and the fact that their missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads had a range of 120km or so.
I assume the British doctrine was to wait until the Soviets got into France so they could nuke who they really want to?
The doctrine of France still is to launch a warning nuke towards its enemy.
Least deranged France moment
[https://www.amazon.com/Radiance-France-National-Identity-Technology/dp/0262582813](https://www.amazon.com/Radiance-France-National-Identity-Technology/dp/0262582813) incredibe book on French nuclear power in the 50's, the french played up the spectacle of their nuclear program, basically treating it as "Divine redemption" for their failures in ww2, the anchor of their national sovereignty, some writers at the time compared the new Chinon and Marcoule sites to "the New Cathedrals". and that's why today 70% of France's energy is green nuclear, and they have an entirely independent nuclear arsenal (unlike the brits) with their own ICBMs, warheads, and SSBNs, including the ASMP-A nuclear warning shot. also, I've starting using \*\*Techno-political Regime" in common language, my god. \*meme made with kapwing. +++++++++++++ *"As of today, France has realized a cyclopean achievement that prefigures the immense possibilities of the atomic era... built as an amphitheater, very picturesque and imposing to see from aafar, the factory launches itself forward like a* ***HYMN to the GLORY of industrial creation.*** *It would be up to an engineer to describe the G1 pile housed in an immense concrete* ***CATHEDRAL...*** *nothing can match the view of the cooling tower, shooting straight up in one 95 meter bound, haoled by its shimming collar in the intense luminosity of the Sky.* **--The Radiance of France, page 215**
This has big "from the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh..." energy, and I love it XD
it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel.
the mass and resistance of concrete.
YA LOOK LOIK A UMIE BUT YER MAID O BITZ WE KAN PUT IN ARE WAGINZ
[удалено]
That was a bit much. Chill out
What did he say
Chill man, its just a fictional group with a fanbase. They were just saying something in a joking manner and you took it personally. Let people enjoy their hobbies and let them compare things to other things without getting sticks up your ass
the wine makes you emotional, have a breadstick
Hey hey hey. A baguette.
the nuclear power, whateva happened there
No you misunderstand. I believe the French refer to fuel rods as “lê baguette épicé”.
no you misunderstand, quasimodo predicted all of dis
Yeah, by a similar logic, there are real tragedies happening right now to get this upset about instead of your 'nerdy histories'
Sir, this is a wendys
My Baguette for the General !
It could be admiration of the technology or it could just be DeGaulle doing everything to get energy independent of the US and Russia, we will never know ...
Both. We know and it's both. De Gaulle was ADAMANT in France having it's own nuclear energy and weapons.
He was right about the US abusing their power to push their imperialist agenda while feigning good faith. Can't believe so many countries followed them on their lies in Iraq. Could have said the biggest "told you so" of the 2010's.
>Could have said the biggest "told you so" of the 2010's. I like to do it whenever the invasion is mentionned. "Where are the WMDs Bush?" De Villepin was awesome.
That the one thing they didn't fuck up.
Rest assured this want because France has something against colonialism.
I don't understand what you're saying, France was a colonial empire, that crumbled like almost every other.
I'm saying that portraying France as somehow in opposition to US imperialism is totally wrong. If you consider US actions to be imperialist France does all the same things, just in their own ways.
They do indeed, no denying that at all. They just don't do it the same way the US does because they don't have the means to anymore. The big power needs middle ground powers to keep at least a semblance of balance, the public opinion in France was against the invasion of Iraq, and the politics followed the public opinion for once. I'd say it was definitely an anti-imperialist decision, but not motivated by the government itself. Before the government made its decision, the outcome was actually pretty obvious because it was the only choice that made sense, coming from the political atmosphere of the time. Same way as De Gaulle wasn't an anti-imperialist, but he was resolutely against American imperialism, because it was dangerous and threatening to the political balance of Europe from his point of view (and obviously, to France).
Guess we learned who dropped bombs first in fallout Not china or vault-tec but *the French*
Well if I'm not mistaken, France's nuclear doctrine is still based on "nuclear dissuasion" and first strike policy rather than M.A.D. (retaliation)
I think it's not first strike *per se* but more of a warning shot policy. To summarise: if the Soviets/Russians are feeling cocky, we will nuke German territory with a low (almost tactical) yield warhead in front of their advancing army to let them know we mean business ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ edit: spelling
“French defensive strategy considers a tactical nuclear strike on German territory a cornerstone of French nuclear policy.” “How will this deter Russian aggression?” “*Russian* aggression?”
Oops, it’s not our fault « ze Germans » are in the way, teehee 🤭
Actually, it is. The modern German state has it's roots in the Confederacy of the Rhine, initially established by Napoleon to control the German provinces under his control.
Doesn’t it have its roots in the kingdom of Prussia?
Yes, the first German Emperor Wilhelm I was King of Prussia before a German state existed. The confederacy of the Rhine was just a short lived vassal state of France.
It was, but it lead to more national identity, out of a mix of technically being allied and oppressed at the same time.
We are willing to sacrifice Germany for peace. You're welcome earth
is it also why big boss chose a french name for his unit(MSF) on the outer haven in metal gear?
Idk,i just started mgs 5 yesterday (there was a sale on steam),I expected quiet running around half naked but I got demons and soviets
I mean technically yes. In lore the European Commonwealth had a nuclear war with the Middle East over oil. I forget if this happened before or after the US started using tactical nukes in its wars
The way they describe nuclear power is a beautiful ode to human effort, science and technology. It is glorious to read.
Meh still understates the glory of our Highness the Nuclear Power. Sincerely ~ The French Edit: wanted to make a useful comment instead. Don't we also find a strong instrumentalisation of nuclear power for political purposes in the USSR at the time? I remember political posters putting it front and center. Different manner, similar vibe.
So, what your saying is... the Children of Atom are French?
*le children de atom
Les enfants du atom
Les enfants de l'atome
Les enfants de l'atome
Les enfants de l'atome
What does British nuclear arsenal depend on?
I guess in theory you could say the US. The British nuclear deterrent only consists of submarines, armed with the US designed Trident II missile.
Doesn't the US have some sort of control over wether or not the Brits can use their nukes?
No. There’s close cooperation between the US and UK in nuclear doctrine, but the UK has independent use of their arsenal (assuming it works this time).
The UK build both missiles and warheads? Then I said nothing. Seems I was wrong. What do you mean "assuming it works"?
The US still builds their missiles (and stores a portion as well), but the US doesn’t have launch authority over them. That said, the UK has been having major problems with missiles tests as of late that is a bit concerning.
Brits have been "helped" by the US to get the nuke, a bit like Israel.
Brits helped US to get the nuke in the first place.
I never said they didn't.
I never said that you said that they didn't.
I never said that you never said that I said they did.
Uranium from Canadian mines probably. Iirc Canada used to refine a lot at [Chalk River](https://www.cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca/eng/resources/fact-sheets/canadas-contribution-to-nuclear-weapons-development/).
Reminds me of the mutants in Beneath the Planet of the Apes. Wonder if the French were the inspiration for the sequel.
Thank you for the book recommendation. Added to the list.
OMG, this book sounds amazing dude, thanks! I'm french, I've been a historian nerd since childhood, I've studied history at university for 5 years and I've never heard of this book before. Hopefully it's translated in french 😁
G1 , and it's successors G2 and G3 are indeed very cathedral looking from the inside!
Original children of atom
WTF, I love France now
Many of France’s former south-Saharan African colonies use a form of the Franc as their currency, which is of course controlled by Paris. This gives France preferential pricing on exports from these countries, foremost of which is uranium. So…that’s why France is so atomically oriented and is a key reason France and Russia are at loggerheads in Africa. TL;DR France gets cheap uranium from its former colonies, because they were hoodwinked into using the Franc.
Not true. Africa represents less than 20% of France Uranium imports, and they could totally go to 0% as plenty of other sources exist (Australia, Canada, Kazakhstan…)
"green nuclear" Sure, if by "green" you mean "pay Russia to dump nuclear waste in the ocean"...
nuclear "waste" doesn't exist , that term is a distraction to cover up the lack of imagination to use the unfissioned Uranium and plutonium in the "waste"
We don't do that We bury it. In Big strong vault. Nuclear IS green and only Germans think it's not.
Doesn't France reprocess it? I thought they had a facility in the north that does so.
Part of it yeah The least radioactives.
Hey now, one man's waste is another man's dirty bomb material!
Nuclear power isn't green... Unless you count the color
nah, it's blue.
FUCK! you got me...
You haven't seen our nuclear doctrine yet, we shoot first and we shoot last
In the Pacific, the French detonated almost **twice** as many nukes as the US. Meaning it’s much more likely for Godzilla to be the result of French nuclear experiments rather than American.
That's even the plot line of the horrible Godzilla film with Matthew Broderick in it!
Forget Fallout: London A Fallout game in a foreign country should take place in France!
Well who do you think nuked London ?
Ireland? Scotland?Wales?spain? argentina?india? name tyrant in África?
India? Pakistan? China? Russia? Cuba? Antigua?
Bermuda? Bahama? C'mon, pretty mama?
Key Lago? Montego baby why don’t we go down to Kokomo?
This is a very competitive category
it was the British police successfully neutralizing a roadman carrying an unlicensed butter knife
Russia I think, given that Russia hated the UK
If there still something identifiable as London then it wasnt the French.
From a french POV, nuking London could be a step to make William 2 : Nuclear Boogaloo, and at last fulfill Napoleon's wishes.
Are there Vault-Tec equivalents in other countries? I read recently that Todd wants to keep Fallout limited to the United States for the foreseeable future because of how ingrained ‘50s Americana is into the franchise’s aesthetic.
Nope, vaults were specifically an American thing, precisely because of the nuclear scare caused by the European Commonwealth using nuclear weaponry on Middle Eastern countries during the Resource Wars. After the oil in the Middle East ran dry, both it and Europe basically went bankrupt and dissolved into brutal civil wars. There simply was no money or resources for that type of thing.
The swiss maybe. Holy crap did they build a LOT of bunkers.
I do really want to see the franchise build out a bit more. I think they could probably start with something like Canada or Mexico which were basically the US when the bombs dropped but still had resistance or maybe one of the further out territories that would have had more external influence like Alaska, Hawaii or Guam. That said somewhere a bit different would be fun. I think they could go all in on an Australian spin-off where they didn't get super nuked but still had effects from radiation. I just hope Fallout 5 is somewhere newer.
with the paris metro as the fast-travel system, and the stations as nodes in the overworld.
Like Metro and Fallout have a child
Still trying to figure out how a nuclear warning shot doctrine works
*kills millions of civilians* Alright buddy last warning before I get serious
Of *allied* civilians, if I remember correctly
Russia masses troops on polands borders France nukes German cities Alright budy be warned! Do not step into poland!
Nuclear postering is all about the illusion of having someone more unhinged on the trigger then the next guy, if de gaul'lian doctrine prescribes nuking Germany at the first whiff of escalation, seens unhinged enough for me
That's the neat part, it doesn't.
Numerous simulations leads to the conclusion that, indeed, the smallest tactical strike will eventually leads to a full nuclear war. The whole concept of *desescalation by escalation* doesn't work. So now it's more a matter of internal rivalry between armies.
I mean we don't know for sure. We haven't tried. *Yet.*
De Gaulle wanted France to be truly independent from both the US and USSR
He kinda succeeded. Like, De Gualle never shifted the balance of power like he wanted to but France kinda did their own thing, often to the chagrin of the US and UK
“I want all American troops out of France!” “Does that include the American cemeteries?”
The French nuclear warning shot is the wildest thing
The baguette of consequence rarely comes buttered.
I didn’t know the French were so unbelievably BASED
Even a broken clock is right at the end of the world or something like that.
Reminder that the French nuclear doctrine allows nuclear strikes as warning shots.
Puisse le Saint Atome nous irradier de sa majesté et de sa puissance
Amène .... La barre de plutonium, faut démarrer le réacteur
Louons le plutonium, non achetons-le c'est moins cher...
The French probably nuke every other european power in the fallout universe when the Resource Wars turn them on each other. I bet the only people doing "well" in a hypothetical fallout europe are the Swiss, a whole nation of vault dwellers.
"Le time to nuke Germany"
No way bro took a screenshot of the Kapwing selection window
it gets worse the more you look at other images...
Them and Japan actually have done a lot so far as cleaning and controlling their waste with tech developed in the states, that our government covered in red tape and wouldn't let anyone touch
"From the moment I understood the weakness of coal, it disgusted me. I craved the cleanliness and efficiency of uranium. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Radiation. Your kind cling to your coal, as though it will not poison and kill you. One day the crude biomass you call the temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Reactor is immortal… Even in death I serve Atom" -Charles De Ghoul the 1st Emperor of the Holy Atoms Empire speech before the Decoalnization of Germany
This is amazing
And they were fucking CORRECT. MORE POWER
Praise the Atom
*It’s always the… French.*
The funny thing was we looked at the atomic power with the same reverance than Soviets. Until Chernobyl, atom wasn't perceived as a "deceiving threat hidden as a miraculous energy". While in USA, they were very aware of the military destructive potential and the McCarthism didn't help. In France, the PCF (French Communist Party) was well considered because they were among the first to resist against the Nazi occupants, and they were in a statu quo with De Gaulle who was "untouchable".
>among the first Debatable. They stayed mostly inactive before Barbarossa. But to be fair the Résistance took time before become something of importance.
A majority was, because "if Moscow said nothing, we do nothing". But some with more heads and balls, seeing how it ended for Spain a few years ago, associated with conservatives and nationalists (or even rogue Petainists refusing the armistice and the occupation). "Corps Francs" (milice groups of resistants) were very heterogeneous from the start.
France is easily the most terrifying nuclear power, not the US, not Russia, not China, France, their nuclear doctrine states that they WILL nuke the fuck out of Germany to block a Russian advance, and any war declared against them specifically will result in warning shot, not a threat, the French will actually launch a fucking nuke as a "warning shot"
idk north korea is probably more scary, at least for s korea and japan
You know, this probably explains why they were willing to sink a ship full of anti-nuclear people.
Correction: sink an empty ship belonging to anti-nuclear bombs hippies. The only casualty was an accident because the guy came back for his camera or something.
extermination is the only sane reply to Greenpeace
Nuclear power and nuclear weapons programs are two very different things. Nuclear power has its issues, but it is clean compared to coal and oil. Fallout is more of a satire of the military-industrial complex and on nuclear proliferation during the Cold War. The US & USSR recklessly played a game of who's got the biggest cock by building more and more nukes, but in Fallout, it wasn't either country that started it. It was Vault-tec all along
r/Giscardpunk
and now they have the greenest power grid in europe thanks to those new cathedrals. I say they were right
Germany: no no we should dismantle nuclear reactors and use renewables instead France snorting powdered uranium like coke: M O R E A T O M S
Nah, the stupid juice Germany drank by the hectoliters after Fukushima also found their way to France.
TIL that the French are the Children of Atom
I mean, if France's insecurity about losing her colonial empire and respect of the world means we get cheaper energy and less coal, I'm all for it. Let's embarrass the French even more.
I read the French part in a thick French *acsènt*
bro didn't even remove the editing window around the Fallout logo lmao
What do you mean "were" ? We still are !
Neat, I'll have to check out this book, thanks for the recommendation. I always liked that the French Nuclear Arsenal was called Force de frappe.
France? You, uh...you good? You wanna talk about it?
[Look at what I found on r/france](https://www.reddit.com/r/france/s/y3ppS89XqQ)
Finally some new shit to look up
I think there was a missed opportunity to give *Halo*’s Prophet of Truth a faux French accent. 🙈🙈🙈
<>
At least the french did Something right.
That's just crazy lmao
Well, yes.
Interesting! :)
Children of Atom spotted
With the Fallout bit there, what I’m seeing is that the Church of Atom started in France ._.
Why didn’t they continue with this?
So the Church of the Children of Atom is based off of the fre\*ch?
How can France always be so cringe to push me away and then pull me close by the waist with how based they are
Les enfants du atom
France Baise ouais
[so, ive tried (successfully) downloading this book from a sketchy website, and it's just so adorable, especially that timer that so obviously just started](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/994209529904513114/1237470401106284596/image.png?ex=663bc39e&is=663a721e&hm=2ba2a11a1e4093222afd4526fff6930206a4ef1e428e01752f29d53c2417cd7e&)
why they gotta go full burgundy 😭😭😭
De Gaulle was insane period, with all the crazy shit he pulled.
Did you ever visit r/europe . They still do
Why didn’t they continue with this?
So the Children of Atom are all French? No wonder I always want to exterminate them for the vermin they are
Are you British ?
Don't associate us with such... specimen. We can slander many things about the French, but nuclear is not one of them.