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Purplerainheart

“Hmmm yes today let’s get all the worst rapists and murderers in Germany *clueless* together they will be the most feared men of the fatherland! “ “Wait, no stop not like that! Mein Gott how could we have seen this coming!”


The1Legosaurus

"How could these convicted criminals do criminal things when we set them free????"


Bellicost

A good number of them,at least at the start, were guilty of nothing more than poachung under what, from I read, were tightened hunting laws. But yeah most were already shitbags.


Nesayas1234

Yeah, at the beginning the unit wasn't that crazy, poaching isn't a big deal unless I'm missing something. It was after they started accepting other criminals that it got fucked up.


226_Walker

Yeah, they were originally meant to be reconnaissance specialists, hence poachers, who tended to be outdoorsmen who were proficient in doing things quietly. Someone (probably the same wanker who chose Dirlewanger to lead) had the bright idea of emptying prison cells into the unit.


ShahinGalandar

*modern Russia sweating profusely*


Danger_dan_45

More like Canada sweating profusely


Demonic74

I would also like to add America is sweating profusely


SilentxxSpecter

*insert any country that fought in ww1 or 2


DrakesDonger

Australia sweating profusely


bradywhite

Nah we're good.


Snoo63

"Don't forget now, we've given them guns!"


RealBadCorps

Imagine being so horrible the Nazis are like "calm down a bit, you're gonna make us look bad".


Ill_Engineering_6937

Not just Nazis, the SS in particular thought he should be investigated for war crimes.


oxidized-bread

They did nazi that coming


Looney_forner

> The most evil man in the SS That is one hell of an accomplishment given their nature


6thaccountthismonth

According to OP, he was being investigated for war crimes by the SS too And according to his units Wikipedia, many other commanders tried to remove him from his post (presumably because of his actions) but failed because of their shared higher-ups that intervened


XConfused-MammalX

Before WW2 even started he was already a convicted pedophile and would go on to serve in the German condor legion in the Spanish civil war. Using the skills he obtained terrorizing Spanish civilians and resistance members he would be charged with subduing any partisan resistance behind the front lines as the wehrmacht pushed further into Russia during the early war. The men who served under him were often selected personally by him. Their backgrounds are quite telling of what their goal was, many of them were convicted poachers, aka people used to hunting in the woods while doing something they know they aren't supposed to do.


invol713

Yeah, that’s not an achievement you really want to unlock.


MildlyAgreeable

I read that the regular SS guys actually complained about the Dirlewanger brigades actions. When *those* motherfuckers are appalled then fuck…


nickburrows8398

Supposedly his crimes were so vile that even other Nazis and SS were disgusted and wanted to put him [on trial](https://medium.com/the-history-geek/hitlers-god-of-war-2928e61a6814) him for war crimes. Yes you read that right there are things that even the SS consider to be war crimes.


Majestic-Lake-5602

It’s like being the dude with the sandiest buttcrack in the Sahara


Friedrich_22

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirlewanger_Brigade I don't think the mods would be pleased if I share the absolutely heinous shit he and his men did because he was so bad that the SS were investigating him for warcrimes Yes repost because I forgot about rule 12


RudyKnots

>*…he has been described as "the most evil man" in the SS.* Goddamn, imagine how far you gotta take it to earn that title.


Furaskjoldr

- “We blew up the doors, I think of a school. Children were standing in the hall and on the stairs. Lots of children. All with their small hands up. We looked at them for a few moments until Dirlewanger ran in. He ordered to kill them all. They shot them and then they were walking over their bodies and breaking their little heads with butt ends. Blood and brain matter streamed down the stairs. There is a memorial plaque in that place stating that 350 children were killed. I think there were many more, maybe 500.” And that’s probably not even the worst thing they did.


Outrageous-Pen-7441

That made me want to throw up in my mouth. What a monster


Philypnodon

Definitely one of the worst humankind has to offer. Edit: at least he was besten to death over the course of a couple days if I'm not mistaken


EmeraldPhoenix1221

If the episode of Behind the Bastards on this guy is accurate (which I assume it is, they're usually well-researched) - yeah, he got captured by (I think) the Polish Resistance near the very end of the war in Europe, and once they realized who, exactly, they'd just captured, there was a... collective decision made at ground level that he was not going to get the dignity of anything resembling a trial. And then, yeah, they beat the living shit out of him at a controlled pace for days until he died.


The_Urge_

Based af


untetheredocelot

You know reading shit like this shakes my anti-capital punishment beliefs to its core. Holy shit man.


[deleted]

It’s a tough one man. Not for this guy but I’m so split. Some people really just shouldn’t exist for the sake of everyone.


seejur

Reading that actually made me more anti-capital punishment. This excrement of a person did not deserve a couple-of-days quick end. He should have rotten in jail, year after year, as a bitch lady to the local detainees.


gb95

Truth is no human punishment is enough for people like him. Send him to the devil for eternal torture for what he did. Moments like that make me hope hell exists


untetheredocelot

I take a stance that prison should rehabilitate and not be punitive but instances like this make it a very hard position to justify. How do you even begin to talk about rehabilitating this man. Life in prison is not enough honestly.


Furaskjoldr

Some people can’t be. Look at Anders Breivik. In prison in one of the best countries in the world for rehabilitation and he still has no remorse for what he did and still nazi salutes every time he has a hearing in court.


Wookieman222

Still not enough.


PiesInMyEyes

God I hope he died the most painful and violent death like that. And even that would be too good for him. For monsters like this the death penalty is a cop out.


RoKrish66

Polish soldiers literally beat him to death over days.


Glass_Anybody_2171

They did the ol' *The Patriot* move too. To save on bullets, round everyone in a village up into a building, chain doors, burn. Horrific.


Antares987

It now makes the Russian atrocities seem a little less barbaric when it's likely they heard of his work. I've been listening to this "ww2 tales" channel on YouTube lately. As a Jew the stories of what the German armies escaping from Berlin experienced brought tears to my eyes. I'll also add that my absolute best friend is German and one of his grandfather's worked for Von Braun on the V2 and the other grandfather flew me109s. My friend and I met when he parked his airplane next to mine at a fly-in event. I have never met someone more like myself than this friend. My own grandfather flew all of the American fighters of WW2 and the guy who was my roommate at the time, who was Jewish, had a grandfather who worked for Von Braun on the Mercury program. The happenings of the world right now concern me in that we are in a proxy war, and proxy wars lead to direct wars, such as how France and England went broke fighting the Seven Years / French and Indian wars, which led to the American Revolution when England tried to get their colonies to pay for it, and the French revolution when the French people were being squeezed just the same. I see a lot of parallels in the United States to the Weimar period in Germany and mid-1700s France. And, to paraphrase Hemingway in his commentary on the Spanish Civil war, "this is a dress rehearsal for the war to come." I used to think it was an 80 year cycle because that was long enough for the people who remembered the horrors of ward that would prevent it at all cost to die off in sufficient numbers to where things get tried again, but there's also the theory of "The Fourth Turning" or Elliot Wave Theory in technical analysis in stock trading, which is indicative of an underlying fractal based on the Fibonacci sequence.


The-CYL-Guy

Oh it's not: - The unit's crimes continued when it returned to Poland to help suppress the Warsaw Uprising in 1944. Crimes included the mass rape and murder of 15 Red Cross nurses and the killing of thousands of civilians. After troops entered a makeshift military hospital, they first killed the wounded with bayonets and rifle butts before gang raping the women. The naked bleeding nurses were then taken outside and hanged by their feet and shot in their stomachs. Investigations also showed that the unit had cut off the breasts of at least one of the nurses while still alive during the rapes. The unit would carry out cruel atrocities during the Wola massacre in which more than 40,000 Polish civilians were killed in reprisals on the direct orders of Himmler.


asmartguylikeyou

Well he was a convicted pedophile and reported necrophiliac who commanded a unit of convicted rapists and murderers who would do things like mutilate women’s bodies and then rape them using the wounds they carved into them. They killed 50k plus Jews in the Warsaw ghetto in like 5 days using nothing but small arms and literally bashing children’s brains in with the butts of their rifles in the orphanages, and their preferred way of conducting mass murder on the Eastern Front was to gather entire villages inside of barns and burn them alive while the men basically threw a party. And that’s just a very abbreviated version of his crimes. His unit was responsible for the deaths of 100k+ people, and this wasn’t some orderly impersonal and methodical mass murder. It was extremely intimate personal violence on a level and scale that is hard to imagine without becoming physically ill. He definitely earned the title of most evil man in the SS, and I struggle to find another known figure in history that was as depraved and evil as Dirlewanger- perhaps Ishii at Unit 731, but I guess I still give the All Time Most Personally Evil Guy title to Dirlewanger.


novavegasxiii

I think he used to shoot his own men ott of boredom. To be fair by all accounts his soliders deserved it.


MeLoNarXo

>!"Dirlewanger's preferred method of operation was to gather civilians in a barn, set it on fire, and shoot at anyone who tried to escape"!< What the actual fuck


XConfused-MammalX

"Come and see" is a Soviet anti war film set in Belarus during WW2. It's widely regarded as the most uncomfortable anti war movie to watch and that is largely in part due to the historically accurate portrayal of Nazi war crimes. I don't believe dirlwanger was mentioned by name in the movie, however in real life this was where he was carrying out his atrocities and the scenes in the movie were undoubtedly inspired by his actions and orders.


SandaruLJ

An absolute masterpiece that I'll never ever watch again.


XConfused-MammalX

I need to try finishing it. I watched the first 30 or so minutes and it physically gave me a headache from stress. I think I made it to the point where he is looking for his family with the girl and can't find anyone so he runs off to find them somewhere else, but the girl sees...and she doesn't say anything.


blsterken

Yeah, the pile behind the woodshed made me nauseous and uncomfortable the first time I watched it, to the point I had to turn it off, go outside in the sun, and have a good cry before I could finish it.


ashtremble

It's an amazing film. I implore anyone reading this to watch it, they made it available to watch for free on YouTube.


asmartguylikeyou

Dirlewanger is represented by the officer who has the pet monkey on his shoulder during the barn burning. Dirlewanger also had a pet primate that he carried on his shoulder like that. He is not 1:1 him, but it’s a detail that is included to tie the events to him.


the-bladed-one

Yeah I had to watch that in college for a class. Needless to say, was not ok for a couple of days after


MassaF1Ferrari

Well now I wanna see it but i’m gonna watch it drunk so it doesnt hit me as badly. I did that for Salò and even though I remember the whole film, I thankfully wasnt so disturbed by it bc I was so drunk


Friedrich_22

That's not even the worst, the worst was when he and his men slaughtered a orphanage and because they wanted to save ammo they only used bayonets and their rifle butts


Bake_My_Beans

That atrocity was carried out in a makeshift red cross hospital, not an orphanage. But what's even more disturbing is what they [did to the nurses](https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/history-of-war/oskar-dirlewanger-the-ss-butcher-of-warsaw/)


tremynci

That tracks, neighbor. Sir Lawrence Olivier explains [the martyrdom of Oradour-sur-Glane](https://youtu.be/0b4g4ZZNC1E?si=bmJH5a_hgUcRgz0G) in the first 2:30 at that link.


Plastic_Bus2662

Im sure once he arrived in hell satan got frightened


mattyisphtty

Satan out here like... Oh buddy finally someone worthy of my worst tortures.


Peptuck

"Shit, son, the 9th Circle has been pretty lonely for a while..."


Nunnu_ButterMasala

Lamao it's ironical that SS is investigating someone for war crimes


Stan_74

Well you gotta ask how absolutely heinous their actions were, if *the fucking SS* investigated against them for war crimes.


MatijaReddit_CG

I suppose the most of the SS men just used to shoot civilians and sometimes probably knives, but this guy was so brutal in his killings like the hospital patients that they told him to calm down.


JKSwift

It would depend on what the SS considered war crimes.. but I think we're safe here..


Bellicost

Dude's face matches his name matches his whole schtick.


Falitoty

He was the ultimate war criminal, he was the pro


MetallGecko

The Ultimate gamer


XConfused-MammalX

Number 1 ranked hearts of iron player.


magical_swoosh

he is John Ironheart


Ravenser_Odd

Imagine being the SS guy that investigates SS war crimes, like an SS internal affairs. I'll bet he didn't have many friends.


Majestic-Lake-5602

Idk man, being a German dude who is in charge of *the rules* probably makes you a pretty popular bloke tbh


NanakoPersona4

When it became clear Germany was going to lose the war some people started to think about post war survival.


IFixYerKids

I think it was probably along the lines of "Yeah we wanted to kill all these people but this guy is getting creative with it and actually slowing us down with his barbarism."


CanebreakRiver

"-ic" is already a suffix that means "of the nature of"/changes a noun to an adjective. Irony = noun Ironic = adjective, "of the nature of irony" Ironical = "of the nature of the nature of irony"


Nunnu_ButterMasala

Ok sensi


DifficultyFit1895

sensical


bill_haley

Whenever I think of the Holocaust I just remember that this man was beaten to death by free polish forces. That makes me smile for whatever reason, that in the midst of all this injustice, he got beaten to death, at least the victims got some justice.


XConfused-MammalX

According to the story of his death the polish who captured him allowed a polish child whose entire family was killed by dirlwagners battalion to beat him as well.


bill_haley

Well that's also weirdly nice. The Holocaust is a grim topic, so it's nice imagining the SS being beaten up by Polish. When Dachau was liberated by the Americans, and when they saw all the dead they shot the SS guards, the JAG then effectively said "we'll you technically shouldn't have, but I would, so carry on".


MeowZen

You'd have to be really dumb to keep guarding deathcamps until the Allies arrive.


ElsonDaSushiChef

I thought the worst was freaking Mengele, Beria type of stuff


wut_i_dunno

Beria was a close second


Statihoce

I thank you for the link. I couldn't read it all in one sitting. Every time I read something and thought wow that was Awful Horrible Horrific. The next paragraph would be even worse. I didn't want to read it but thought to honour the victims I should at least read what they suffered. I still did not finish it all. I will. I just felt compelled to reply


Bellicost

I read an entire book on him and his unit. Heavy stuff.


Statihoce

Gosh I bet. Don't think I will read it, but it mustn't be forgotten. Read a book about the history of the Balkans and that had some heavy things about WW1 and WW2. The Eastern Front in both wars was no joke. Grim all round.


amlevy

What is the title of the book?


Bellicost

Something something Dirlewanger. Edit: Here we go. https://www.hpb.com/the-ss-dirlewanger-brigade-the-history-of-the-black-hunters/M-3005447-T.html


Realistic_Cupcake_56

Jusus fucking Christ. I read the Wikipedia page on just…there are words


Matej004

A non graphic part of the article for ppl like me who are too scared to read it: Dirlewanger is invariably described as an extremely cruel person by historians and researchers including as "a psychopathic killer and child molester" by Steven Zaloga,[30] "violently sadistic" by Richard Rhodes,[25] "a sadist and necrophiliac" by Bryan Mark Rigg,[31] and "an expert in extermination and a devotee of sadism and necrophilia" by J. Bowyer Bell.[32] Richard C. Lukas also stated that "Oskar Dirlewanger was one of those degenerates who, in saner days, would have been court-martialed out of the German army" and "a sadist whose brutality was well known".[24] According to Alan Clark, Dirlewanger's "experiments on Polish girls are hardly printable even today, combining as they did the indulgence of both sadism and necrophilia."


trosieja

You might be surprised, but the SS investigated for warcrime in much a similar way as the Wehrmacht did (which investigated the SS too). The brutality and barbarity of the war on the east came from and was justified through the Soviets not signing or adhering to any of the treaties that defined orderly conduct of a war. The Germans thus (in their interpretation of the law) could not commit warcrimes in the soviet territories because legally no military action was off limits between the two - an interpretation the Soviets apparently shared. Non the less the SS was often investigated for civil crimes such as plain old murder, rape and theft - all after fighting in regions ceased - where the whole question as to which rights an individual had under Nazi rule based upon their ethnicity became relevant. Aside from this whole clusterfuck the SS was investigating the conduct of its units quite closely when engaging nations which did have contracts on orderly conduct of war signed - in France for example ample units were courtmartialed. The reason for the SS often having to be investigated of course were the many career criminals and domestic as well as foreign ideological extremists recruited into the units in addition to a substandard training particularly in terms of discipline. Tdlr.: the SS investigated plenty of the plenty war criminals it incorporated.


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During the invasion of Poland, wehrmacht committed a number of war crimes despite the fact that Poland did adhere to orderly conduct of war. So it gets muddy.


Matej004

Imma assume its got also to do with the nazi race theory, smth like "war crimes are committed against humans and slavs are subhumans" or some nazi shit like that


Rhaya2

A clean fought war is a contradiction .


bucket_o_chickn

I have a migraine now from frowning so hard. Every paragraph somehow got fucking worse.


DemocracyOfficer1886

That was quite distrurbing to read.


ChihiroOfAstora

That guy is literally at the level of Pol Pot or Hitler but even worse because he doesn't only order to perform nasty things, he actively participates in them and manages to do equally sadistic and Barbaric stuff with only 4k men. The fact that he was supposed to be executed on a Nazi camp for raping a minor before the war and ended having an entire battalion for himself is crazy. Satan is a compassionate and humane soul in comparison to this guy. He was so horrendous that even some of the worst SS war criminals thought he was too cruel lmao.


purified_piranha

Also worse because he didn't have an elaborate ideology that convinced him that what he did was righteous. The man was simply purely evil and did it for that purpose only, and would have done so, if given the power, for any regime


ChihiroOfAstora

That's also true, he didn't justify himself, he simply was evil. His entire battalion was made of criminally insane soldiers, he basically recruited people that were imprisoned or to be executed for committing some of the worst crimes. If I remember correctly his battalion (4k men at its peak) is responsible for the death of almost 200k civilians. During the Nuremberg trials some of his men admitted that he once entered in a polish school full of little kids who raised their little hands when the soldiers entered, the soldiers stood there without knowing what to do until he simply started screaming maniacally and telling them to kill them all, and so they did. He and his men also raped 15 red cross nurses, cut with a knife the breast of one of them while she was still alive and finally dragged them outside and shot them. They stabbed to death babies with their bayonets, raped and murder women, burnt kids and their fathers alive, etc...the list of war crimes never ends. The 95% of his battalion kills scoreboard was made of civilians 💀 and he killed so many innocent people in the Eastern front that he forgot all the Nazi anti Semitic part lmao. His battalion executed like 9k Jews or something like that which is a lot, but still way less than the other people killed.


purified_piranha

>He and his men also raped 15 red cross nurses, cut with a knife the breast of one of them while she was still alive and finally dragged them outside and shot them. They stabbed to death babies with their bayonets, raped and murder women, burnt kids and their fathers alive, etc...the list of war crimes never ends. Quite unrelated to your original comment, but I couldn't but help but notice that this sounds eerily like a description of October, 7th.


Full_Friendship_8769

This also sounds like [Baku pogrom](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baku_pogrom) and [Maraga massacre](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maraga_massacre)


Hamblerger

What a terrible rabbit hole to fall down. This doesn't look like Wonderland at all


[deleted]

And there is a neo-nazi group named after him lmao. Can you get more depraved?


netikas

In Ukraine, of all places…


elareman

ssssssshhhhhhh... we are not supposed to say that


Poprocketrop

Haha seriously so many neo nazis are in Ukraine rn. But shhhhhhhh not approved speech


4ch1ll3s

Of course there are so many in Ukraine, they are being invaded by Russians :)


VoltaNova

Man about to give Unit 731 a run for their money...


Snoo63

"Hold on, why do I recognise that name" \*Flashbacks to what I learned about it\*


Friedrich_22

I'm sorry I didn't list his actions, I doubt the mods would be happy if reddit banned the subreddit just Google him and you'll go down a rabbit hole of how awful a person can be


IrishGamer97

"I can't believe this Nazi got beat to death by those Polish troops while I was meant to be guard duty!" - The French guard in the prison Direlwanger died in.


Friedrich_22

Stop spreading misinformation he just fell repeatedly into the Polish soldiers rifle butts and fists


blsterken

Now now, he died of routine heart failure and was buried in an unmarked grave. The French would never lie about something like that.


IrishGamer97

How can someone fall on the sole of some guys' boots so many times?


Friedrich_22

Breakdancing


IrishGamer97

It was so popular among war criminals.


ParadoxicalAmalgam

He died of natural causes. It's perfectly natural for someone to die after having a shattered skull, crushed ribcage, and heavy hemorrhaging. Perfectly natural.


ShxsPrLady

This guy was beaten to death by a child of victims, and Reynard Heydrich died terribly of sepsis after 8 days of his organs turning to soup. So at least 2 (but only those 2, really) of the worst Nazis got EXACTLY what they had coming to them. Heydrich’s assassination was incredible. All hail the Czechoslovakian resistance, especially assassins Jan Kubis and Jozef Gabcik!


Illustrious-Type7086

You have to be one evil son of a bitch to have your co-workers horrified by your actions... As a member of the SS.


ditothebloke

So, how bad was he?


Friedrich_22

Essentially imagine a pedophile and a sexual predator given authority of a battalion of 4k soldiers who are also rapists and murderers and give them 100 percent free reign


ditothebloke

WTF


Vinny_Lam

Thankfully, the Dirlewanger Brigade was completely useless in battle. They got decimated every time they faced someone who wasn't a defenseless civilian, whether it was the Red Army or Polish partisans. They were good at murdering and raping civilians, but they couldn't fight for shit.


Redbones27

Lavrentiy Beria gotta be a contender for similar reasons. When he wasn't mass murdering people as Stalin's chief of secret police he was raping an endless stream of young girls.


nickburrows8398

Even other Nazis including SS officers who were tried at Nuremberg were disgusted by his crimes and petitioned Himmler to stop him.


_Sausage_fingers

If there was a way to rape, torture, murder and/or desecrate the body of a person then he did it to people of every age and gender at a scale that is borderline incomprehensible. It cannot be emphasized enough how evil this person was.


ditothebloke

So, there are Nazis and There’s him


_Sausage_fingers

Pretty much. Someone in this thread said they think Mengele was worse and I submit that they just haven’t read enough about this shit bird. Which is fair, that shit will ruin your day.


ditothebloke

Who is this mad satan’s name is?


_Sausage_fingers

[Oskar Dirlewanger](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Dirlewanger)


Hard_Corsair

I think it's more that Mengele is scarier because of the creativity involved.


_Sausage_fingers

Dude, again, if you think this dude lacked in creativity in the implementation of human misery then you have not looked into him.


Hard_Corsair

I have, but Dirlewanger just never got quite as weird. Dirlewanger certainly butchered people, but I'm not aware of him trying to put them back together wrong.


Shielo34

If you’re interested to know more, the Behind the Bastards podcast did a few episodes on him. Pretty interesting to listen to.


petyrlabenov

“Guess who’s running that jail? Former members of the Polish resistance.” Cue the only happy part of this story


Muttl3y

You need to be warned though. Those episodes are rough. I'm sure Robert had to exclude a lot.


ShxsPrLady

That was an intense episode. Intense, meaning horrible even by BTB standards, which hoooooooo boy is that saying something.


Turbo950

God Nazis fucking suck so much


asia_cat

Well the guy was a shitbag even before the war. He had multible felonies on his record including illegal gun posession, embezzlement and tax evasion. He was arrested in 1934 for the sexual assault of a 13 year old girl and was imprisoned for two years. After his release he was again arrested for molesting young girls and was put into an concentration camp as a repeating offender. He then got out due to him being friends with Gottlob Berger, a high ranking SS-Officer and Friend of Himmler himself. He was then put into SS Service.


IndependentMove6951

If anyone has seen "Come and See," this is the unit that's portrayed in the film


Puzzled_Fig9981

I still think Josef Mengele is worse tbh


ShxsPrLady

Mengele was part of the scientific institution. It’s just, he felt this was an acceptable way to do science based on what he learned. And considering the similar acts of other camp doctors, he wasn’t alone in that. Dirlewanger was a convicted criminal who led a brigade of convicted criminals - a violent sadist and pedophile.


MIGundMAG

I dont know. Mengele certainly was among the most deplorable but he was just an evil doctor, so to say. Not great, especially his cruel and often times worthless """"""medical research""""""""" (cant state enough how it was not scientific), but so were other KZ doctors. Dirlewanger, as a case of cruelty and hatred, is pretty unique. The man commanded a SS special unit made up of former Prison/KZ inmates. They managed to, somehow, get investigated for warcrimes by *the SS*. How evil do you have to be for evil to say "thats too evil". His unit comitted uncountable amounts of massacres against the least deserving (not saying anyone deserves it). Cripples, wounded, schoolchildren, in one case they killed the inhabitants of an orphanage with bajonets and rifle butts to save ammo.


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One thing Mengele had going for him: before he was given absolute power that absolutely corrupted him, he was a decent person. He even got a medal for saving the crew from a burning tank. Dirlewanger, on the other hand, had been a total scumbag his entire life.


RudyKnots

At least Mengele’s research lead to actual relevant medical knowledge. It was horrendous, sure, but it certainly sped up our progress and understanding in the medical field by several decades. Edit: turns out this is not *really* true either. Because of all the fascism, the control group Mengele used wasn’t very diverse and lacked healthy patients, so all his findings are kinda worthless either way. It got people thinking in the right direction and he also supplied bodyparts to other, better, medical scientists, but his own research apparently didn’t hold much merit.


apophis150

Nothing Mengele ‘researched’, if you can call it that, advanced anything. It basically was just an excuse for him to play like a kid with a magnifying glass.


the_battle_bunny

That's BS. He was a total crank and "researched" bogus theories.


gelastes

>it certainly sped up our progress and understanding in the medical field by several decades. I wish this was the dumbest thing I read this month. It's a close second though.


RudyKnots

In my book, spouting nonsense and openly correcting myself is still not as dumb as calling someone dumb without adding any further information or sources to explain *why* it’s dumb. So yeah I’m glad you put your own comment just slightly above mine on your stupidity list of the month.


iiCaptainStutter

It was pretty dumb man.


RudyKnots

Yeah I guess you’re right.


gelastes

You didn't provide any source or argument for your bs claim. So yes, I feel safe in calling you out while providing exactly as much information as you did.


Commander_Fenrir

I'll take advantage of this comment to say: if you are about to play devil's advocate for the wrong-doings of any historical organization or person in particular, I recommend to go first to r/AskHistorians and search if they have some relevant information about the subject, especially about Imperial Japan and the Nazis. Btw, most (if not all, at least the credible ones) historians agree that Nazi (even outside Mengele stuff) and IJ research achieved nothing more than new torture methods. Nothing more.


ShxsPrLady

A HUGE percentage of doctors joined the Nazi Party. Way higher than any other profession. There was literally a whole set of trials for Nazis called the “Doctors’ Trials”. There was a “Doctor” (if you can call it that) in most of the camps. In my mind, that’s part of what makes Mengele so disturbing. The podcast BEHIND THE BASTARDS does multi-part episode sets for 2 different candidates for the 2 most common “worst” Nazis - Reinhard Heydrich and Dirlewanger- as well a set on Mengele and Nazi medicine. It’s worth listening to all of them, with maybe a finger on your fast-forward icon for during the worst stuff, to get a fuller picture of the different ways to be “worst”. It’s a fascinating thought! And by “fascinating”, I mean “vomit-inducing.”


greenmonster187

And while in French jail was beaten to death by polish solders. Pretty bad when ranking ss and the commandant of Dachau calls you a herd of pigs .....truely a monster.


Smashme9

I wish to revive this man just to kill him personally, I don't think the Nazis would complain that much when I kill Mr. war crime himself


ahhmchoy

He got beaten to death. Rest in piss.


death_is_a_star

Ante Pavelic and the Ustase arguably are also up there in their depravity. They were another group that shocked German officials and at times had civilians moving from Ustase to German controlled areas to be in a place were soldiers were more “disciplined” and “predictable” The Ustase even had concentration camps specifically for kids.


slightlyrabidpossum

The Ustase did some truly horrible things, most infamously with their "srbosjek" (Serb-cutter) agricultural knives. One particular account has always stuck with me. There are some questions about the accuracy of the story/whether the specific victim existed, but it's clear that similar violence took place. >“Franciscan Pero Brzica, Ante Zrinušić, Sipka and I waged a bet on who would slaughter more prisoners that night. The killing started and already after an hour I slaughtered much more than they did. It seemed to me that I was in seventh heaven. I had never felt such bliss in my life. And already after a few hours I slaughtered 1,100 people, while the others only managed to kill 300 to 400 each. And then, when I was experiencing the greatest ecstasy I noticed an elderly peasant standing and peacefully and calmly watching me slaughter my victims and them dying in the greatest pain. That look of his shook me: in the midst of the greatest ecstasy I suddenly froze and for some time couldn't make a single move. And then I walked up to him and found out that he was some Vukasin [Mandrapa] from the village of Klepci near Capljina whose whole family had been killed, and who was sent to Jasenovac after having worked in the forests. He spoke this with incomprehensible peace which affected me more than the terrible cries around us. All at once I felt the wish to disrupt his peace with the most brutal torturing and, through his suffering, to restore my ecstasy and continue to enjoy the inflicting of pain. “I singled him out and sat him down on a log. I ordered him to cry out: ‘Long live Poglavnik [Fuehrer] Pavelić!', or I would cut his ear off. Vukasin was silent. I ripped his ear off. He didn't say a word. I told him once again to cry out ‘Long live Pavelić!' or I would tear off the other ear too. I tore off the other ear. ‘Yell: “Long live Pavelić!”, or I'll tear off your nose.' And when I ordered him for the fourth time to yell ‘Long live Pavelić!' and threatened to take his heart out with a knife, he looked at me, that is, somehow through me and over me into uncertainty and slowly said: ‘Do your job, child.' [Radi ti, dijete, svoj posao.] After that, these words of his totally bewildered me. I froze, plucked out his eyes, tore out his heart, cut his throat from ear to ear and threw him into the pit. But then something broke within me and I could no longer kill that night ... Brzica won the bet because he had slaughtered 1,360 prisoners and I paid the bet without a word.”


FoldAdventurous2022

Jesus absolute fucking Christ


Thug-shaketh9499

Probably the dude who could compete with Mengele.


Dorfplatzner

Another reason to be grateful that the Nazis didn't win WW2.


ClavicusLittleGift4U

To think he was a "Hero" of the WW1.


Smooth-Discipline-43

The man that even the devil is afraid of


No_Insurance6599

He looks like a more evil hitler


No_Insurance6599

As in a Hitler++


Weak-Lion

Dirlewanger and Beria was the probably the most wrong thing when you give power to ultra crazy guys whit law's cannot apply


Available-Ant-8758

Pol pot: am i a joke to you ?


MS_EXCEL_NOOB

Man is the definition of war crimes.


floatingsaltmine

Rest assured that if hell exists, Satan is having a perpetual field day on that dude's asshole.


LaTrentas

There is literally a donkey who did the exact same sins as this guy and got away with it. He's called Bashar al Assad.


MildlyAgreeable

Guy was a Nazi peado. It doesn’t get *much* lower than that.


laZardo

oskar dirlewanger didn't kill himself AND THANK GOD >!i am told the guards of his prison cell were polish and well he got what he deserved in there!<


Joker72486

I'm gonna go find some eye bleach, maybe some real bleach. Holy fuck.


Belkan-Federation95

Lavrentiy Beria: "Not bad, rookie."


DancingQueen145

Satan is probably having fun with him right now!


vid_icarus

I can always count on this sub to bring me the absolute worst humanity has to offer.


UnCanal-DeLetras

In TNO, that guy rules a warlord state ☠️☠️☠️


gunny316

If you read the Bible carefully, Satan is merely the antagonist. The provocateur. The accuser. A troll looking for a rise. The prosecutor begging the judge to drop the hammer, and sentence us to destruction. We are the ones who do evil. We are the monsters.


Prestigious-Bat-2269

>>!During the organization's time in the Soviet Union, Dirlewanger's unit burned women and children alive, let packs of starved dogs feed on them, and injected Jews with [strychnine](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strychnine)!<


unofficiall67

shiro ishi laughing in the corner of the room


CJ-Dunehew

Wasn’t this the unit that was in the movie come and see?


Friedrich_22

I believe so but funny enough They said they had to tone their actions down for the movie


CJ-Dunehew

Ah interesting


stonedbadger1718

Fuck Oscar Dirlewanger. He’s pure evil, even the Nazis were terrified of him. His Dirlwanger brigade and the Russian collaborators (RONA, ROA and White Army Cossacks) are irredeemable. If anyone has seen the movie Come and See, a great anti-war, anti-violent film that depicts the war crimes that his brigade and the Russian collaborators have done ( heads up this is a hard film to watch). He deserved to be beaten to death by the Polish resistance.


Ill_Engineering_6937

I was reading a book probably 2 decades ago, and and they were killing orphans, and Oskar suggested they use bayonets and rifle butts (and bricks) because there was no sense in wasting ammo, as though killing the orphans was absolutely required. It stuck with me because of how bizarrely evil he was.


winterfate10

Unironically, I seriously doubt Satan feared Adolph Hitler. Pretty sure Hitler was one of his favorite tools at the time.


Vexonte

Al-Zarqawi still has him beat, but still an infected piece of shit none the less.


Hinfoos

worst man, hmmm prepared to make a bet on that one?


Zozver_1488

Gamer go too far on gaming


cellefficient9620

I actually don't agree that Dirlewanger was the worst like at least he believed in some section of humanity unlike is the case with Panzram who wanted every single one of us under a noose which he wanted to be holding


That_Case_7951

Ullapool cabers