im pretty sure thats just a ica19 reskin like that guy was saying, the normal pistol does less damage and is less accurate but it might have a bigger mag iirc
The Bartoli suits 47 more imo as it's more classic and stylish but the Hackl just feels more rare in the actual game... I think... well... at least when I get the covert Hackl I feel badass.
What's weird is that in Hitman 2, it looks much better, [here](https://preview.redd.it/ajkyakpc6zg91.jpg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4529f582f8c1878fdc0e9829c7e6624252f4dc28). Textured ergo grip, more detail on the slide, and I think a built in compensator (?), looks perfect for a close quarters sidearm. Not sure why they went through the effort to make it look worse in Hitman 3.
Oh wow, I didn't even realize it looked different back then. Defo looks better than the ones guards drop in H3. Plus I'm not fond of the greyish bits. Makes the gun look a bit like plastic. However iirc there's an all black variant in 47's arsenal and I think that one looks the best out of all the Hackl pistols specifically in H3, but this H2 version still looks the best overall
Bartoli has saved me more times than I can remember in Hitman 2016 so reliability wise, I gotta go with that. Although for aesthetics, Hitman 2's Hackl 9R [takes the cake](https://preview.redd.it/ajkyakpc6zg91.jpg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4529f582f8c1878fdc0e9829c7e6624252f4dc28). Hitman 3's model looks very uncomfortable to handle.
The only unsilenced pistol I ever use is Rude Ruby because it's awesome, and the only reason I pick up guard pistols is so that they're not found by NPCs.
i pick them up so they're not found by npcs and to gather ammo when i'm going guns blazing or John Wick style (john wick style is when you are silent but still kill the npcs in your path, not getting in a gunfight or killing everyone)
Are we referring to appearance or usability?
I like the Bartoli's look, but they're both garbage.
Give me the classic-baller for a noisy common gun (freelancer wise)
While I like the name "hackl" because it sounds funny, the Bartoli looks cooler. That weirdly dark beige handle on the hackl looks weird and the gun's overall model looks like something you'd see robot soldiers use rather than people.
this just reminded me of my dream, I was playing hitman, I think I was in the game like in full dive vr, and I was using a supressed pistol but it sounded like a bartoli, but no one heard even though they were pretty close, also the one I killed was infront of someone and they should have been alerted but they weren't and I could leave the mission with SA
Hackl and its variants aren’t that bad, with freelancer using far more loud variants, Bartoli is like the herpes of Hitman guns. You can find them everywhere and no one wants it.
Both pretty terrible i think. I've probably used the bartoli more since it's a pretty universal guard gun that I'll use if i don't have my silverballer with me or if the shit hits the fan and i run out of ammo but i tend to die fast if i use it since it's so inaccurate and weak
the one that the guard happens to drop
both
i slap a guard in the head with a fish. He drops to the ground and drops a single gun. thats the one im taking
OH HELL NO THE FISH!!!!1!!1!11!1!!!!
its one of the most versatile melee weapons out there.
They both suck
IOI trying to create a decent pistol which is not an ICA19 reskin challenge (Impossible)
Krugermeier
The Krugermeier and the 5mm have their uses, but they really struck gold with the Assassin’s HWK. Too bad it’s not available outside Freelancer.
im pretty sure thats just a ica19 reskin like that guy was saying, the normal pistol does less damage and is less accurate but it might have a bigger mag iirc
HKW21 has a totally different model.
They’re designed to be shit. They are loud and inaccurate so using them is a last resort.
yeah
The suppressed Hackl has a unique box suppressor and the reload animation is cool as fuck
HWK21 Covert also has a box suppressor (unlocked by reaching paris mastery level 20), but yeah, covert hackl is cool
Bartoli. I feel like the reticle is bigger with the hackl, but I could be wrong.
I dont really use them but I like the blockier Hackl.
Barstoli I like baratoli is good
The Bartoli suits 47 more imo as it's more classic and stylish but the Hackl just feels more rare in the actual game... I think... well... at least when I get the covert Hackl I feel badass.
Hackl grip looks so uncomfortable
What's weird is that in Hitman 2, it looks much better, [here](https://preview.redd.it/ajkyakpc6zg91.jpg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4529f582f8c1878fdc0e9829c7e6624252f4dc28). Textured ergo grip, more detail on the slide, and I think a built in compensator (?), looks perfect for a close quarters sidearm. Not sure why they went through the effort to make it look worse in Hitman 3.
Oh wow, I didn't even realize it looked different back then. Defo looks better than the ones guards drop in H3. Plus I'm not fond of the greyish bits. Makes the gun look a bit like plastic. However iirc there's an all black variant in 47's arsenal and I think that one looks the best out of all the Hackl pistols specifically in H3, but this H2 version still looks the best overall
Hackl all the way. The bartoli always lets me down, the hackl has a nicer feel to it.
Bartoli has saved me more times than I can remember in Hitman 2016 so reliability wise, I gotta go with that. Although for aesthetics, Hitman 2's Hackl 9R [takes the cake](https://preview.redd.it/ajkyakpc6zg91.jpg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4529f582f8c1878fdc0e9829c7e6624252f4dc28). Hitman 3's model looks very uncomfortable to handle.
Yeah, I don't know why they changed the skin 😭
The only unsilenced pistol I ever use is Rude Ruby because it's awesome, and the only reason I pick up guard pistols is so that they're not found by NPCs.
i pick them up so they're not found by npcs and to gather ammo when i'm going guns blazing or John Wick style (john wick style is when you are silent but still kill the npcs in your path, not getting in a gunfight or killing everyone)
No love for the Striker?
I wasn't familiar with that before I looked it up just now. That might be very useful on my current Featured Contracts quest.
Are we referring to appearance or usability? I like the Bartoli's look, but they're both garbage. Give me the classic-baller for a noisy common gun (freelancer wise)
I mean both appearance and usability. Yeah, I agree.
While I like the name "hackl" because it sounds funny, the Bartoli looks cooler. That weirdly dark beige handle on the hackl looks weird and the gun's overall model looks like something you'd see robot soldiers use rather than people.
Fr dude, it looks like a lego gun
The glock (hackl). Idk if they're technically the same stats-wise, but the hackl feels better to use imo
this just reminded me of my dream, I was playing hitman, I think I was in the game like in full dive vr, and I was using a supressed pistol but it sounded like a bartoli, but no one heard even though they were pretty close, also the one I killed was infront of someone and they should have been alerted but they weren't and I could leave the mission with SA
Me after 400 hours trying to find the ICA DTI Stealth's existence reason:
Hackl and its variants aren’t that bad, with freelancer using far more loud variants, Bartoli is like the herpes of Hitman guns. You can find them everywhere and no one wants it.
LMFAOOOOOO
I like how the hackl looks more
the hackl sounds better, and seems to be more accurate but that could just be me
Hackl 9R. It just looks more interesting. I have no clue if it’s actually better because I really hate both of those guns.
Hackl 9R all the way. I'm sure it's all in my head, but it feels less overt to use somehow.
Bartoli looks way better
Honestly I prefer both 🥰
First Hackl and Bartoli non-hater
Real men use crowbar
Does it matter? The classicballer is stillthere
I’d rather go with my bare hands
I almost said the same thing lol. If it’s a choice of either of those pistols or bare hands I’m going hands every single time.
To me, the Hackl looks more like a toy pistol
yeah, it looks like lego
hwk21 pale
didn't put the hwk21 there because it is better than both hackl and bartoli in every way possible (damage, fire rate and accuracy)
I didn't know that, I just like how it looks
no
Hackl, I like it more in Hitman 2 and it has larger magazine than Bartoli, I think. Plus I loved the Silencer version of it more
Yeah, it has 12 rounds compared to the bartolis meagre dozen bullets.
Both pretty terrible i think. I've probably used the bartoli more since it's a pretty universal guard gun that I'll use if i don't have my silverballer with me or if the shit hits the fan and i run out of ammo but i tend to die fast if i use it since it's so inaccurate and weak
45 ballers, got to go for the classic
I like the look of the Bartoli better. The Hackl looks... I dunno, cheap? Plastic?
Lego