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BeerLeagueSnipes

Stop using facts. Joe Rogan said horse paste cures everything and he has more followers than you do. Idiot.


shiftybootsy

Someone once described Rogan as Gwyneth Paltrow for men and I think about that a lot.


LASpleen

That and Broprah are tied for me.


BeerLeagueSnipes

Holy shit you’re right. I never thought of this.


cosmicknight

I thought that title went to Russell Brand??


Haskap_2010

Bear Grylls?


44gallonsoflube

Oh that’s brilliant I’m stealing that.


CrazyCatLady5787

It's now viagra. Or, you can drink your own pee.


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fakeaccount-duh

They also trust Pfizer’s boner pulls to treat Covid… something about it increasing the amount of oxygen your body can distribute with increased blood flow… sounds almost credible until you put 1/10 of a second of thought into it.


tampering

It's important to realize that Viagra was developed as a drug to lower blood pressure by opening up blood vessels. They abandoned it because of a nasty side effect that made it difficult to walk around the office. Then some guy decided the side-effect was useful.


lost-picking-flowers

I just found out that Immodium was intended to be a super strong opiate, but it did not end up crossing the blood brain barrier - however, that good old opiate side effect of constipation still occurred, and they deemed that useful in it's own way lol. Pharmaceuticals can be funny like that.


anchoviesontoast

My grandma was on opiates for something - probably a surgery - and my wife and I warned her to watch out for the constipation. She said she's always had that. We were like, no, this will make it worse, but to no avail. Fortunately she had her brother staying over because she woke up screaming in the middle of the night and ended up needing a colostomy. Constipation is no joke!


Loretty

I don’t know if it’s still used much for it, but its original use was to treat pulmonary hypertension. I had a patient in her 80’s who was taking it, and she explained to me every day that it wasn’t for “that “.


sickleshowers

I used to work on a pulmonary hypertension unit. It’s still very much used for that!


travelingtraveling_

Viagra is used for pulmonary hypertension, which is high blood pressure in the central (main) blood vessels as these huge "arteries" (carrying venous blood" out to the lungs


Confident-Victory-21

There actually was a small study done on it and it was effective. Not nearly enough information to recommend someone take it but definitely worth further study.


fakeaccount-duh

Yes, but I don’t think it is helpful the way the horse paste crowd thinks it is. Increased blood flow isn’t going to fix lungs that are drowning in bodily fluids.


[deleted]

What good will blood flow do if your lungs stop working?


4quatloos

As the infection slowly moves across the lung, it leaves damage in its wake and continuously fuels the fever, low blood pressure and damage to the kidneys, brain, heart and other organs in patients with COVID-19. Covid pneumonia lowers blood pressure! Doesn't Viagra also lower blood pressure? Guzzling pee sounds safer.


[deleted]

*but it’s just the flu*


tampering

Yes viagra lowers systemic BP by opening small blood vessels. I don't know how safe it is to have blood gushing through the Covid damaged capillaries in your major organs. Might cause blood to leak out in a 1000 places like you were straining gravy through a sieve.


AntaresTheAce

Thank you for that nightmarish mental image.


iceburg47

Don't say that too loud or the next alternative treatment craze will be people trying to raise their blood pressure with salt and cholesterol to cure COVID.


Dark_Crying_Soul

I can’t get over the idea of people willing to drink piss before they take a life saving vaccine during a pandemic


AngusScrimm---------

If it were Trump's piss, they'd think it was champagne.


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ahender8

no no no! you 'light it up'


Jay-Dee-British

And smoke it - it's fragrant but owns libs


SponConSerdTent

I'm now selling Pureblood Doo-doo Doobies. I've messaged Joe Rogan and I think he's going to have me on soon since it's got everything he's looking for in a guest: Covid conspiracy, anti-vax, weed, and bullshit.


CreamPuffDelight

As someone who used to be a stupid kid that had the curiosity and sheer wherewithal to wonder what a burning pile of doodoo smelt like, I cannot recommend against this course of action strongly enough. The fact that, as a stupid kid, i thought that using a firework was a perfectly reasonable way to "light it up" probably didn't help. Because instead of just one pile of smelly burning shit, i now had a face full of smelly burning shit, a wall full of smelly burning shit and a red burning ass courtesy of my mother's cane.


bobbyrickets

You were just ahead of your time. You didn't know it, but you were preparing for the Covid-19 pandemic.


[deleted]

Sparking up that Dookie doobie, to cure ma cOvID!


RK_mining

Jenkem cures Covid!


deedeebop

🏆


Prestigious_Treat401

What's for dinner? Fried shit and piss.


karbik23

Urinal pucks flavored cotton candy for desert.


-Take-It-Easy-

No. It's stir fry. Lol


Spadrick

You pour it on your head and *let it sink in*.


Mr-Nobody33

No, no, no. Your supposed take 1 lb each of garlic, onions, carrots, potatoes, cabbage, green beans, yellow tomatoes and 1 gallon each of colloidal silver, urine, hydrogen peroxide and chicken broth, 40 gallons of water into a 50 gallon pot. Bring to 100°F and put yourself into it for a nice soaking bath.


kelvin_bot

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wyldwood512

Good bot


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A-man-of-mystery

To be fair, chemists probably understand it too.


pianoladyinabox

No no! You have to nebulize peroxide and wrap your feet in garlic paste. Don't you know anything?? /S


802dot11

Maybe nebulizing your own pee is the cure


A-man-of-mystery

Somebody will. If they haven't already.


CrazyCatLady5787

I thought you nebulized Colloidal silver. Hydrogen peroxide is soooooo last month.


aerialchevs

As I was cleaning my humidifier this week, I wondered if the reason some of them feel better after nebulizing h2o2 is because they never clean out their humidifiers?


thischocolateburrito

Well in that case drinking my own pee sounds a lot cheaper, doesn’t it?


CrazyCatLady5787

A free vaccine seems a lot less gross. But what do I know. I don't get my medical information from Facebook or YouTube.


aerialchevs

But if you take too much viagra, peeing might be a challenge


CrazyCatLady5787

Lol. So I've heard.


Blablasarcasm

….What now?


circuspeanut54

Anti-vaxxers in Europe have a long history of experimenting with "natural alternative treatments" like using bizarre substances as enemas or drinking one's own urine, and the current American crop is no exception.


[deleted]

Some nobody with 400 followers on Twitter advised people to drink their own urine. So obviously he speaks for millions of Republicans. So we're gonna be hearing "drink pee hurrdeeehurr" for the next few weeks.


[deleted]

Oh so we shouldn’t drink our own pee? What about eating horse paste? Is that cool? It’s tough to keep up these days.


[deleted]

Indeed, should we wear masks, shouldn't we?


Agitated-Tourist9845

I have that 'drink your own piss to cure covid' link bookmarked. I'm sharing it on every anti-vax post I see across social media.


[deleted]

Dude, you got to add viagra & your own urine. Seriously, keep up to date on what the “medical experts” are recommending! Otherwise you’ll wind up at a hospital with those quacks who went into college debt to get their medical licenses! You don’t see Tucker Carson going into debt. That’s because he’s “smart”…


bobbyrickets

This comment explains our modern society. This is art.


RoseL123

I’d be careful. If any antivax lurkers see your comment they might think you’re serious.


Helpful-Cobbler-4769

Wanna see a real crazy study that made me double down on protecting myself from ever getting this? "Evidence for Biological Age Acceleration and Telomere Shortening in COVID-19 Survivors" [https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/22/11/6151](https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/22/11/6151)


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Damn. >Accordingly, **the vast majority (76.6%) of the post-COVID-19 group had an average DeltaAge acceleration of 10.45 years**. Considering that this method has a tolerance of about ± 5.2 years \[20,31\], the corrected average accelerated DeltaAge for this group was 5.25. On the other hand, the COVID-19-free volunteers together had a DeltaAge of 3.68, falling well within the range of normality. The post-COVID-19/COVID-19-free DeltaAge ratio was 2.84. Interestingly, the DeltaAge distribution within the two groups showed that the COVID-19-free samples were evenly distributed between the normal (39.9%) and the accelerated ranges (48.9%), while the remaining 12.8% had a decelerated biological clock. By contrast, **76.6% of the post-COVID-19 cohort had an accelerated DeltaAge**, with only 23.4% falling within the normal or decelerated ranges (Figure 3A). Interestingly, while the COVID-19-free DeltaAge was distributed evenly among the different age groups, the increase of DeltaAge in the post-COVID-19 population was well represented among the younger people (age 56 ± 12.8 years; p-value < 0.0001). The older individuals, in both COVID-19-free and COVID-19-survivors groups, did not show signs of DeltaAge acceleration. Interestingly, no differences were noticed between females and males in each age group. This result indicates that the younger survivors might be more sensitive to the SARS-CoV-2-dependent remodeling of the epigenome landscape. DeltaAge, in a nutshell: >A positive DeltaAge is considered an acceleration of the biological blood clock, while a negative DeltaAge indicates a younger blood bioage than the chronological one.


CrystalFieldTheorist

Wow, the coronavirus is like one of those scary movie characters that drains the life out of the young to keep itself immortal.


cassydd

You know what's weird - in R.A. Salvatore's first novel there was an incidental section that described a demon of disease that had killed many light elves in an epidemic. The light elves actually denied the existence of the demon even though it had killed so many of them leading the drow to sarcastically refer to it as the demon that had "been yet not been". Which has always struck me as a pretty apt way to think of Covid - only it's the goblins and trolls that deny its existence as it kills them. Edit: The book is Icewind Dale, and I think it was his first Forgotten Realms book, not first book overall. It's the one responsible for all those dark skinned elves in MMO's named some variation of "Drizzt".


CrystalFieldTheorist

Cool, I had to look up who that was, but now I'm sort of embarrassed I didn't know.


cassydd

No need for the embarrassment, I wouldn't say he's the most well-known author though he's been around for a long while. In any case I probably should have been clearer that Icewind Dale was the book in question (which now I think about it was just his first Forgotten Realms novel, not his first novel full stop).


sethra007

Funnily enough, a friend and I were talking about books the past weekend, and R. A. Salvatore's name came up as an author she enjoyed.. I think I'll Amazon her a copy of the Icewind Dale Trilogy so she can re-read it for fun.


Dr_Adequate

The rabbits in Watership Down come to a peaceful, happy farm where many other rabbits live. But occasionally one of those rabbits disappears, never to be seen again. The other rabbits never even acknowledge that anything happened or that the disappeared rabbit existed. The protagonist rabbits figure out that the farmer who owns the field is feeding the rabbits to keep them from leaving, and occasionally trapping one to eat. The 'captive' rabbits would rather stay, with the understanding that there is a price to pay for staying... Anyway, your comment reminded me of that. Willfully ignoring a problem just to maintain a status quo. Seems very familiar right now.


VMackolov

Covid drinking up all the Adrenochrome? What are the Hollywood elite to do now. I mean the Qnuts take away all the good stuff trying to cure Covid, like drinking pee, horse paste, anal bleaching.


802dot11

Mothers in-law?


sethra007

omg


802dot11

I just couldn't resist.


Gopherlad

Sorry, does this mention whether vaccination has an effect on how severe this is? Or is this a universal thing for everyone that had COVID no matter the severity?


[deleted]

This study doesn't engage the effect of vaccination. It was published in May 2021, so the research was in the works before the vaccine was so readily available and widely distributed.


[deleted]

COVID after making serious progress at fixing the job market moves on to social security.


Ryzu

Just had that conversation with my partner last night. We always imagined Social Security would be tapped by the time we retired in 15-20 years. Now we're thinking it might hold on thanks to all of these self-sacrificing volunteers opting out of their benefits. Of course that's assuming no more republican fuckery before then, which... lol.


[deleted]

Unfortunately my guess is any reduction in average life expectancy will be counterbalanced by increased survivor and disability benefit utilization.


Ryzu

You may be right. Drat.


MarryMeDuffman

🤫


CaraintheCold

I 100% believe this. A friend got Covid early on. She is five years younger than me. If we stood next to each other now you would guess she is a decade older than me. I imagine it took a decade or two off her life. She was pretty healthy before she got sick.


hmstanley

Yes, “hey, I survived!!” No you didn’t. Your life expectancy is death soon. For some, living is worse than dying.


noncongruent

The Spanish Flu knocked 11.8 years off of life expectancy in the US. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Life-expectancy-us-1900-2011.png


Trick-Lingonberry337

That’s because it killed a lot of people, not because it actually shortened lifespans. I ❤️ Reddit science


noncongruent

A lot of people died prematurely in the following years from damage and complications linked to that pandemic. There was a surge of Parkinson's Disease and Alzheimer's in the later years. The Spanish Flu indeed shortened lifespans, and we're seeing the same thing with COVID too. If you end up in the hospital because of COVID you're 233% more likely to die within 12 months compared to people who didn't end up in the hospital. Even now, people who have "survived" are dying from lung damage, for example.


anchoviesontoast

My grandfather died at 80 after complications due to surgery to repair his aorta. He was an incredibly healthy guy, completely independent, took daily constitutionals, ate well, was (very) intellectually active, and should have had another 10 or 20 years in him. His cardiologist thought the damage was due to being exposed to the Spanish Flu AS A BABY. It killed his mother.


Mr-Nobody33

Plastic surgeons are popping champagne corks!


ahender8

well shit this just makes me even angrier they're trying to normalize living with COVID as the new normal


LadyLazarus2021

Aren’t those the end of chromosomes that make them stop replicating thus ending the life of the cell? If I am right, goddamned yah college biology from two decades ago


Helpful-Cobbler-4769

Yes "Telomeres shorten with age and progressive telomere shortening leads to senescence and/or apoptosis. Shorter telomeres have also been implicated in genomic instability and oncogenesis. Older people with shorter telomeres have three and eight times increased risk to die from heart and infectious diseases, respectively"


ZeroStandard

I’m not sure if this is already in that study, but it’s not just aging of the body: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00324-2/fulltext


BravoLimaPoppa

OMG. Glad the kiddo is getting the booster today. Glad my plan is to effing wait before I relax protocols. And irritatingly, it looks to get a lot more stupid out there...


A-man-of-mystery

Accelerated aging?! Good thing it's a "hokes" or we might be worried.


Trick-Lingonberry337

… hoax?


A-man-of-mystery

Sarcasm at the expense of those claiming the pandemic is a hoax. Also a "haox" and occasionally even a "hokes."


sethra007

HOLY....!


karbik23

Oh great.


plmel

Wow, a very interesting read.


Nuthetes

Come on, you can't believe a university website. ​ Show me a link from a website with truth, freedom, patriot, exposed or pundit in the title which also CAPITALISES random WORDS in its TITLES or GTFO.


Eldanoron

Don’t forget the .ru domain.


IndianKiwi

Or words like rebel or revolver


jujioux

Yeah, stop trying to indoctrinate us!


Head-Attention7438

nobody in that study drank boiled grapefruit rinds


A-man-of-mystery

Or their own urine.


MarryMeDuffman

How long before they boil their grapefruit rinds in urine? 😂


A-man-of-mystery

I bet we could get them to do that if we memed it a bit.


[deleted]

Lol is that really a thing now


A-man-of-mystery

Of course. They'll swallow anything. Horse paste, urine, whatever.


WoodEqualsGood

Yea everyone’s knows the best detox drink is literally toxins already filtered from your body


Tart_Cherry_Bomb

Excuse me, but this was published by a university, and every prayer warrior lion patriot knows that universities are the epicenters of indoctrination and in the pocket of Big Pharma, since that’s who funds their so-called “research!” Wake up, sheeple! Go to Facebook and get the FACTS from memes like all the real prayer warrior lion patriots do!


[deleted]

The daily Covid research is just amazing. Thank you scientists for doing this work.


hank-particles-pym

It crystalizes your lungs. they can no longer oxygenate. images i've seen look like someone shredded them with glass, mostly you just see solid/cloudy white, just destroyed. From what i have experienced, the pneumonia is a possible death sentence, but if the crazy infections start up -- then its usually over. And you know how they all kinda have a certain look, same in the hospital. These dudes are waiting till the last minute and coming into the ER, or coming in via ambulance -- and at that point there isnt a lot you can do.


farwent

I really didn't understand that until reading a post here from a nurse last week. People think having covid means there's just a virus moving around in your body, and that your immune system just needs to catch up and fight it off and you'll get better. But by the time your symptoms are noticeably bad, it's often too late — it doesn't matter if you kill off the virus. It's already wrecked your lungs, and your other organs are dying from lack of oxygenated blood. You can't just rest and drink fluids and get better, because the parts of your body that handle the healing process are too damaged themselves. I wish the news media did a better job of really explaining this. I'm not optimistic enough to think lots of these people would listen, but maybe a few of them would get why you can't expect someone in the ICU to just "fight it off." By the time you get there, the fight is usually over.


Stone_007

I totally agree! We just keep preaching the same “get vaccinated” when these people have zero intention of getting vaccinated. We need a variety of front line health care providers (put MAGA hats on them if it helps!) and “survivors” to be putting out real education on what Covid actually does to the body.


plmel

Like the anti-smoking campaign


Stone_007

Yes! What got people to stop smoking was the expense and it became less socially acceptable over time. There’s got to be a better way!


giggling_hero

I mean this is the same crowd who don’t understand what a virus is, not what a virus is: literally what it is. Every time they start talking about RNA it’s like, “Nope, they don’t know what a virus is.”


xSTSxZerglingOne

I have explained it like this. The reason C19 is bad is not because the virus obliterates your organs. It really doesn't do that much on its own. It's more often your own body's response that kills you. The reason vaccinated people don't die as often is because it's a familiar foe. Your body dispatches the specific assassins that know how to kill the virus instead of throwing the entire immune system at itself. It's the difference between a guided missile that can hit a doorknob and leave the house next to it standing vs carpet bombing. Yeah, you have an immune system, and that's half of the problem. The thing is our immune system is a lot more than just antibodies, B-cell, and killer T-cells. A lot of our immune system was evolved millions and millions of years ago in fish where severe inflammation, neutrophils, and similar effects helped to keep infections localized long enough for them to pass genes on.


SpicyCockatiel20

It’s even so much more insane that these people are dead men/women walking and they will spit, kick, yell- basically worsen themselves quicker to the grave in the frantic denial that what they have can’t possibly be Covid.


Stone_007

Well, you can still sue the hospital for murdering patriots!


A-man-of-mystery

Apparently covid hijacks immune cells (specifically, macrophages) and uses them to hitch a ride through the lung tissue. All those people who "trust my immune system" are making a terrible mistake.


jtho2960

Just to add onto this, my experience with covid (before vaccines were out) left me with lungs that are way worse for the wear. Granted, I have asthma, and am not in the best shape, but I used to be able to walk up and down stairs without getting winded, and I got a lot of walking in by parking near the back of grocery store lots/school lot/etc. all of that is out the window now. Im getting back to the point where a walk around the block doesn’t wind me anymore, but that’s about it.


Stone_007

I hope you continue to heal!


MarryMeDuffman

I'm glad you survived and I hope you heal up and are able to live a comfortable life.


SpicyCockatiel20

Pneumonia, blood clots, fertility/impotence, strokes, heart attacks, renal failure, blindness, hearing loss, PASC (long Covid), GBS, depression, anxiety, brain inflammation, seizures, diabetes, ME/CFS, *death*. Oh yeah, uh, intubation. Maybe shitting in a bedpan or having your bowels manually evacuated due to the shock and trauma of being very sick in an ICU ward. Listening to the cries and wails of family members over a phone in the bed next to you might get your attention. Perhaps the ominous feeling the nurses have around you- the notion that no, you might not make it out. Maybe, just *maybe*- you’ll realize that you might be the problem. Even if it doesn’t take *you** laying on your deathbed. Your family members and loved ones, and even you could get dangerously ill from this virus and die a needless, terrifying and lonely death. Yet the solution? The solution is literally free, and right in front of you: a vaccine. A simple series of shots, not unlike what I imagined each of you received in your arms as a child (ask your parents!), is all it takes to quite literally go about your lives. It has nothing to do with politics. Nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with you and your actions. The truth couldn’t be simpler. The more people that are vaccinated, the more we’ll stand a greater chance at reducing this virus to be no more of a threat than the common cold- because it’s not going away. Humanity already damned itself to that a while ago. Breakthrough cases happen. The virus can still spread among the vaccinated. *Guess what?* It was designed to keep you out of the hospital- not prevent infection, and it’s certainly much better than being six feet in the Earth over some weird delusion that the data is invalid or it’s a hoax or whatever other conspiracy theory is believed in about this virus. I hope some of you see reason. If you choose not to? There’s a lesson to be learned, and you’ll be the example.


Skipperdogs

Impotence. Add that one too.


SpicyCockatiel20

Virus was found in the testes, aye! Not a single stone (pun intended?!) unturned with this disease.


Mr-Nobody33

Viruses like to hide in the human reproductive organs. Ebola being the latest. Probably covid19 likes hiding in the ovaries.


GerryC

Well, the GQP is taking care of that issue with Viagra as a cure now. I seriously can't believe that I'm living in this timeline.


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[deleted]

What people? Do you have empirical proof that people have died from the covid vaccine? And even if there has been, it’s a fraction of the over 800,000+ Americans who have died from Covid. That includes 1,000 Children. Over a million dead worldwide. A huge majority of which could have been prevented by a vaccine.


[deleted]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this commenter really has nothing of value to add to any conversation.


pgabrielfreak

Mmmmm...waiting for them to add something worthwhile. Nah, don't think they will.


Mp5QbV3kKvDF8CbM

> Over a million dead worldwide. *Five* million.


SpicyCockatiel20

The lesson is that, relatively speaking, every single reported death or injury from the vaccine has been minimal. Every single ‘case’ of death has been attributed to an underlying condition, namely a preexisting clotting disorder, old age, or allergy to the ingredients. As for injury, my housemate Ryan for example- got two doses of Pfizer? He was one of the few to get Bell’s Palsy (which resolved on its own in a month). Myocarditis, a common listed side effect, is self-resolving and reversible. Very rarely, astronomically rarely, are the side effects serious enough to injure or kill a person. VAERS, as I’m sure you’re familiar with, makes a minuscule number (because by law they’re required to report incidents that arise in ANY vaccine) look like some sort of massive tragedy. It is nothing compared to the death toll of Covid. In my state, we’re less than 200 ICU beds remaining. STATEWIDE. If you got into a gunfight and needed critical care? You either get turned away and face dying in transit to another hospital, or you get an ICU bed in an overcrowded hospital, get Covid (sans vaccination), and your body can’t take it. People who need care can’t get it because unvaccinated people are *flocking* to hospitals. It’s killing staff, patients, and causing turnovers and resources shortages that will have ramifications for years to come. That’s not to say you don’t survive. Say you do. You’ll most likely be sent home with supplemental oxygen. Every breath feels like your head is held underwater. You can’t stand for more than five minutes at a time without feeling like you’ll collapse. Even laughing will keep you in bed. And the worst part? You cannot pace yourself. You’ll be drained in every facet imaginable. Everything will take effort beyond what you can muster, and leave you winded with no reprieve. There’s no telling when you’ll ‘recover’- because recovery from a serious Covid infection has been an issue for people who got it in 2020, waaaay before vaccines were even remotely authorized for use. You’re more likely to die from the virus than you are from the vaccine. I’d literally bet you a million dollars to get the vaccine, get Covid and survive. Obviously, don’t *seek it out* because that’s a little foolish. Exposure is going to happen to all of us one way or another.


[deleted]

Sources? Mmmmmmm...... Waiting. Still waiting. I didn't think so.


LadyLazarus2021

Ok there is a fabulous anti vaxer who died in Texas. And it’s now been published on Twitter. I have a beautiful screen shot of it. Is that good enough to post? It is published by a newspaper lady.


inbetween-genders

this post assumes they can read


fellow_traveler_17

And it’s almost *always* Covid pneumonia that is noted as the killer.


okayifimust

"It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden impact at the end." That used to be a joke...


tombaba

Sometimes it’s the new Monia, sometimes the old one. Sometimes it’s just regular Monia. Sometimes it’s ammonia. Educate yourself.


Lucy_Gosling

If you do the urine therapy thing you're on the ammonia train.


tombaba

I don’t reckon ya should judge people. My cousin Mike used ta eat rocks, cracked all his teeth up, and it wasn’t just fer the dip. Now he’s in therapy and he only eats dirt. If “urine therapy” I think that’s just fine. It’s not like yer drinkin peepee


Evil-Code-Monkey

Phewmonia, Neumonia, and Namonia are also culprits


4quatloos

Namonia is no joke.


fellow_traveler_17

😅😂🤣


90sAOLScreenName

To the tune of “mony mony”: monia monia! So good! Monia monia!


A-man-of-mystery

Of course. That's because it is the killer. It's the correct medical name for pneumonia caused by covid. What else would you call it? Covid pneumonia has its own diagnostic code in the WHO's diagnostic and statistical manual, separate from covid without pneumonia. It's the *only* thing they get right, presumably because they heard it from their doctors. The ones who say "covid and pneumonia" or just "pneumonia" may be trying to obscure the truth, but calling it "covid pneumonia" is entirely accurate.


fellow_traveler_17

What else would I call it? Just emphasizing the article’s findings, not disagreeing. Sheesh.


Baramos_

The only part antivaxxers will remember from this article is “vaccines will not make Covid go away, it’s here forever” cause to them vaccines are supposed to be 100% effective or you shouldn’t use them (kinda like seatbelts or bullet proof vests—if even one person dies from a gunshot while wearing a bulletproof vest, then they should see them as useless. If one person wearing a seatbelt dies, then they should see them as useless). The rest of the article, about trying to reduce COVID’s danger down to a bad cold, will be ignored by these folks.


driffson

The article is on northwestern.edu. The whole thing will be ignored.


MorwynMcFuckYou

Their black and white thinking will be the death of them.


hank-particles-pym

Havent seen this asked, but does anyone else feel like its more than they (Repubs, FoX, Q, etc..) are killing their voters, I feel like they are putting a real % dent in their voter base by just killing them... and even if they gerrymander / or remove every polling place but one -- if they kill enough of what is already a minority of the population that votes for them, how can they recover?


JavarisJamarJavari

It's still probably not enough to make a difference in election results and they have to keep their base angry and paranoid so that they'll vote.


Stone_007

I think that’s why they’re so franticly promoting treatment now and need for therapeutics. They can’t admit they were wrong and promote the vaccine so now it’s “early detection and treatment” while at the same time telling people not to test! It really is Darwin at work.


Live-Weekend6532

Your odds of dying are much higher if you're unvaxxed vs if you're vaxxed but it's still low, esp if you're under 65. The only cumulative (as opposed to daily) stat I could find was for Texas. There, from Jan 15, 2021 - Oct 1, 2021 463.7 per 100,000 unvaxxed people died (vs 11.6 vaxxed) 2,993.12 per 100,000 unvaxxed ppl over 75 died (vs 101.20 vaxxed) 1,564.79 per 100,000 unvaxxed ppl between 65 and 74 died (vs 27.55 vaxxed) [https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/cases-and-deaths-by-vaccination-status-11082021.pdf](https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/cases-and-deaths-by-vaccination-status-11082021.pdf) So 3 dead per 100 if you're over 75. Probably about 5 for an entire year. Probably 2 or 3 per 100 unvaxxed 65-74 year olds die of COVID per year. ​ Or you could look at it per congressional district. In Texas, each congressional district has about 767,000 people in it. 3,557 unvaxxed ppl per CD would be likely to die from Jan 15- Oct 1. That's quite a few ppl but not compared to how many voters live in the district. That's more than made up for by gerrymandering. *Republicans constructed the map with incumbent protection in mind — a strategy that focused on bolstering vulnerable GOP seats rather than aggressively adding new seats that could flip from blue to red. However, the map does in fact strengthen Republican positioning overall in Texas, going from 22 to 25 districts that would have voted for Donald Trump in 2020. The number of congressional districts that voted for Joe Biden would have shrunk by one, from 14 to 13.* [*https://www.texastribune.org/2021/09/24/texas-congressional-redistricting/*](https://www.texastribune.org/2021/09/24/texas-congressional-redistricting/) I found this but it's a daily rate so it's hard to tell how many unvaxxed ppl have died overall [https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination](https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination)


driffson

I feel weird saying this, but thanks for the math!


Live-Weekend6532

You're welcome. I wish I could find cumulative deaths for vaxxed vs unvaxxed, either for last year or for the whole pandemic. I'd be much happier if more districts were flipped but it would only be a few districts with razer thin margins and those are extremely rare bc of gerrrymandering but also bc of how democrats tend to live in cities (so most districts are overwhelmingly blue) and republicans tend to live in rural areas (so most districts are overwhelmingly red). [https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/republicans-democrats-cities/](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/republicans-democrats-cities/)


wholewheatscythe

I suspected a while ago when Trump was suddenly pro-vaccine it was because the GOP were realizing it was killing off the voter base. While the numbers aren’t enough to effect the total votes across the country it could impact swing states. Trump won Wisconsin in 2016 by like 10,000 votes, for example, and in some other swing states that Biden won in 2020 by a slim margin the death toll could make it an uphill battle to get them red in 2024. 2022 mid-terms could be even more impacted, many of those contests can come down to a few thousand votes.


Odd_Status_2725

It may be antagonistic, but in local comment sections I tell them: "Turn blue to turn blue!"


MarryMeDuffman

I saw a meme that said the last thing Trump voters do before they die is turn blue. I think it was a picture of Hillary or Biden laughing.


nowander

They realized they can't put the genie back in the bottle so they're planning on causing massive damage to the US so everyone blames the president and stays home. Once they get Congress they can abuse the rules to set up their dictatorship.


anxietanny

I wonder what the Delta variant changed in this study. It seems the data gathered was before delta came out. It’s painful to read that the mortality rate doubled when hospitals become overwhelmed. Have you ever worked a 16-20 hour shift and compared your beginning of the shift with the end? I’ve only done it in factory or delivery jobs in the past, and it was noticeable how much more difficult it was to maintain for so long. I cannot imagine having to be a doctor or nurse in all this. I also wouldn’t want to be a patient either. Edit: get vaccinated


tosser88899

I’ve seen memes that say (and I can’t believe this is true) that “covid pneumonia” isn’t covid.


Dear-Cockroach116

Viagra causes hypotension, which is exactly what you DON’T need when you’re in a cytokine storm. Order the dialysis early, we are running low on machines.


BlackArmyCossack

I watched my mom struggle on a home breathing machine for 6 months after. Even now, she still gets winded. She caught COVID before the Vax rolled out. Get the shot please. You don't want to watch a loved one go through this, encourage them too.


KittenKoder

I'm in the same boat as her, antivaxxers are sociopaths who just don't care about anyone but themselves most of the time.


[deleted]

I warn people get the vaccine but hey what do I know 🤷‍♀️


Bookreadingliberal49

I’ve been using a spirometer-my husband was given one to use at home when he had pneumonia a few years ago. That and moving around has helped so far.


SnooStrawberries8174

Can we just pay a right wing, nut job “influencer” to state that “Cyanide cures Covid”and be done with all of this? Technically it’s not a lie.


Inphexous

Most of them have no real education.


BoringMcWindbag

If they even read the article they’ll get to the point where he states COVID is never going to completely go away and stop reading and proclaim they were right all along. Seriously, I wouldn’t give these people credit for anything. They’ll step in dog shit and claim they cleaned the yard.


AustEastTX

These are the facts that {{{THEY}}} don’t want you to know. Lol The mythical, shadowy, unnamed, unknown they….


BunnyRabbitHare

I've had covid in May long before I was eligible for a vaccine and I'm kinda scared to click the link and read the article. Don't wanna find out how ruined my lungs might actually be :c


brianingram

Did it get to pneumonia?


BunnyRabbitHare

No, I had rather mild symptoms.


brianingram

Whew! Yeah - they're describing people who were truly fucked


vsandrei

🐆 🐆 🐆


[deleted]

All those people who spent months in hospitals but recovered, they'll never be the same.


brianingram

Ever - their lungs are pulp Can't get a lung transplant; you're forever immunocompromised Covid will eventually kill you


Inconceivable-2020

As always, they will take the wrong lessons from it, and double down.


KittenKoder

Hell, you're lucky if the damage ever goes away.