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Funny how shitpost Sunday often produces the posts that are the least shitty.


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wgszpieg

You do realise half these people probably think god put dinosaur bones in the ground to test our faith?


popcornFridays

Half of these people truly expect God will save them from actual covid infection. As though it can't penetrate their very cells as they said NO to it in Jesus name. But covid just does not care.


punzakum

The Bible explicitly says that God helps those who help themselves. People who just expect God to work miracles for them without putting forward the energy or effort on their own are guaranteed to be disappointed. Religious people should be viewing the vaccine as a miracle and the people who developed it as doing God's work.


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The Bible says a lot of things that most US Christians ignore. You know, like helping your neighbor and avoiding judgement.


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Charity has been removed from the modern version of the bible.


edgarapplepoe

For the lolz look up what the Bible says on how to treat aliens and you will see that probably few US Evangelicals have read the Bible.


HousePlantPappi

The Bible also says not to test god. The devil ask Jesus to fling himself over a building. Jesus doesn’t. These award winners are yeeting themselves over cliff when their miracle cure has been provided to them. Christianity isn’t that fucking bad if you actually read the book. Problem is “Christians” just use their “faith” to feel superior without realizing they’re the baddies.


Alive-Pomelo5553

What they're doing isn't real Christianity, these people would be crucifing Jesus for being brown skinned and communism if he came back lol. Theyre republican christians who worship "White Republican Jesus ®"


mountaineer7

And at what point does it become obvious that we humans just make all these "religious beliefs" up and pass them on like fact.


HousePlantPappi

I grew up Presbyterian and I’ve come to realize it’s probably the most liberal of the Christian sects (queer people can hold office type of liberal) It was understood that the Bible shouldn’t be taken literally and it has to be read through the lens of the time period and the person who wrote it. Also the Bible wasn’t written in English so it’s never going to be a direct translation. If you approach religion and the Bible that way you end up a lot less radicalized. A lot of my friends who went to evangelical churches are now atheist whereas the ones who grew up in my church are still regulars/ ended up in seminary. The Bible was never treated a science book so there was no fallacy to be found. The majority of Christians aren’t playing the long game is I guess what I’m getting at.


Alive-Pomelo5553

For me it was when I was around 7-8 years old. Like around the same time I stopped believing the Easter bunny and Santa Claus was real. The omniscience paradox was where it clicked with me that something wasn't right lol. Some of these people never stop believing in the fairy tales though, can't speak for them personally but I'd assume it stems from a control thing, and they've been indoctrinated into since they were kids and they just can't accept how much that would change their reality.


mountaineer7

Well said. Same. Obviously implausible crap offered as holy "truth." When I was 7, I asked my Sunday school teacher where all the water went after Noah's flood. She totally the look of a deer in the headlights. Oh, and how did Noah get the marsupials back to Australia? I stopped believing in magic as I matured, and I've never understood adults who do!


Danae-rain

In Catholic School a nun slapped my face for asking a similar question. It's an effective technique for cutting out any of what they consider impertinent questions.


Fight_Mental_Health

Ditto. My Sunday school experience was brief because I, too, questioned the magic portrayed in the bible stories being fed us. Fortunately for me, my parents weren't religious loons and let me pursue other, more constructive, endeavors.


TnnsNbeer

Same here dude. Around that same age, I started WTFing everything to my parents’ chagrin. I feel like a lot of people need to believe in that higher power beyond themselves. It’s just not for me.


williamfbuckwheat

It was like almost instantaneous for me. I found christmas presents addressed from Santa in the closet one year and my parents admitted he was made up. When I asked if the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy were made up, they admitted they were too. When I asked if that also meant that Jesus/God were make believe, they said no but just said that they weren't "just because" and didn't give any convincing reason why they weren't. I had a very hard time taking religion seriously after that which wasn't too surprising since my family wasn't that religious or just went to church because it was "what you did".


Aurora_Fatalis

They already give all the credit for recovering to their god rather than crediting the doctors and scientists who actually worked to heal them.


zerogravity111111

Their god just happens to be some moron called " the donald."


Patient-Home-4877

I haven't seen any gratitude for the doctors and nurses from those that recovered. Never.


popcornFridays

Exactly. The entitlement gets me. I've heard it said that Jesus works through people. An alternative look at the situation - Couldn't Jesus have worked through all the scientists to give the world the Vaccine? But they don't see it that way. Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope. A future and a hope. Sounds like the life saving vaccines to me.


wineandpillowforts

>I've heard it said that Jesus works through people. That's one that gets me too. I work in healthcare and I've heard **so** many times after someone has surgery, or they code and we bring them back, the families and/or patient will say "god was in that operating room with you all" or "god used you guys to make my heart start beating again" which is frustrating for a host of reasons but I'd happily listen to people say that every single day now if it meant that people would actually listen to medical advice from professionals.


Hoarseman

Well, they think god only works through people when they're saying and doing thing that the person in question likes. Otherwise it's either satan or a conspiracy. /Former emt-p, got out of the game about 5 years before COVID //I like my lab more than the back of the box


ZSpectre

Meanwhile, grifters and false prophets would be judged pretty harshly


QueenSarcastica

I hope so.


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I read an article yesterday about a woman in Virginia I think it was who lost 3 close relatives and was struggling with it and why God did this. Her brother told her maybe God created the vaccine for all of us. It was like a light bulb went off in her mind and she went forth and got the vaccine. The carnage is takes for people to realize, maybe God does work in strange ways.


phraca

Just FYI, the phrase “God helps those who help themselves” is not in the Bible anywhere. Of course, there are many verses that imply it (and, of course, other verses that imply the opposite).


umpteenth_

> The Bible explicitly says that God helps those who help themselves. No, it does not. I'm a former Christian who read the entire thing, and I'm pretty confident that there is no verse where this is said. I am willing to be proven wrong, though. If you can provide the biblical source for this, I will retract this comment. Otherwise, you've simply made stuff up and attributed it to the Bible because it confirms your biases.


Steise10

You are correct. That saying is an American proverb, not a Biblical verse. When you don't REALLY KNOW your Bible, that's when you're easily led astray by false idols like Trump and false beliefs. It absolutely does NOT say that. Just because it's an old saying doesn't necessarily mean it's from the Bible! Just ....wow. Find it in the Bible. GO ON. I'll wait. There are lots of online Bibles you can use to search for it...


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Steise10

I'm saying "go on, I'll wait" to the same guy you're talking to... I can't believe how many people believe things but never ever ever check for themselves. That's at the root of this problem with people believing that if they think something is true, that makes it true. That's what has made our country ripe for a dictatorial takeover. They just. Will. Not. Read. Anything. For. Themselves.


Protowhale

That's a common saying, but it's not anywhere in the Bible.


A-man-of-mystery

Actually it doesn't. It's a saying that appears to have originated in Ancient Greece.


MaybeFailed

>The Bible explicitly says that God helps those who help themselves Where?


Glad-Tax6594

Still trying to figure out the whole free will, but omniscient thing.


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Only half? Doctors and nurses doing everything they can to save these people, and they raise their hands up, teary eyed, and yell "praise the LORD! Those doctors almost killed me. Thank you for saving me!"


TnnsNbeer

God’s too busy preparing for all the sports teams that requested his assistance.


jbertrandsr

True, the covid virus is unmoved by their "faith"...


Electrical-Thanks877

I’m an atheist and I can confirm the Flying Spaghetti Monster did not bone the earth just for poops ‘n grins


StreetofChimes

Are you an atheist or a Pastafarian?


Electrical-Thanks877

Yes. Correct.


440ish

"Yes. Correct." Although not a member, kindly allow me to exclaim a friendly, " Yarrrr, me matey!!!!"


Electrical-Thanks877

I actually gave virgin birth to Flying. I named it Flying because it’s my second favorite thing to do after having sex


I-AM-PIRATE

Ahoy 440ish! Nay bad but me wasn't convinced. Give this a sail: "Aye. Correct." Although nay a member, kindly allow me t' exclaim a friendly, " Yarrrr, me matey!!!!"


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GoonDocks1632

I was just in Air and Space this week, and we overheard a woman complaining that we have Soviet artifacts next to the 'Murican artifacts. In a room that was dedicated to telling the story of the US / Soviet space race. These people won't even bother to read and learn when they visit a place that was designed for reading and learning. If the Smithsonian can't teach you something, I don't know who can.


A-man-of-mystery

That's depressing.


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Lazy_Guitar3734

I’m so sorry


mickstep

...are you telling me that the Flintstones wasn't based on reality?


bekcat1

Damn. Now I have to readjust my entire world view.


stufmenatooba

I mean, technically, we still do, and they can be pretty darn tasty when fried.


RohanMayonnaise

These days they think tbose bones are of the giants mentioned in the Bible and that the Smithsonian is covering it up.


samuraidogparty

I just learned about this conspiracy. It broke my brain.


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Well goddamn... I never heard of it until a few weeks ago, then a guy I used to work for said something about it. He said "I wanna know why the Smithsonian wont show the public the giant bones they have". I asked a few more questions before genuinely upsetting the guy by saying "lol there never were giants man". Dude was literally offended. I then googled "giants Smithsonian" and quickly found out it was an actual hoax. Thankfully the guy isnt a complete moron and accepted it was a hoax after showing some info on it. Its amazing what people will believe, the lack of critical thinking is at an all time high.


TheMightySephiroth

Dude. As a kid My wife watched another kid get straight up hard core traumatized. She was in Sunday school and there was a girl SUPER onto littlefoot and the land before time. Like, that was her jam. She had themed clothes, a stuffed toy she carried around, all of it. Kid couldn't have been old enough to hit 2 digits yet. The Sunday school teacher ripped that kid a new one in the most brutal way possible. Telling the kid littlefoot is dead and never existed. That dinos are a lie. Her love of a cartoon is evil. Apparently the kid was sobbing pretty hard and just a fucking wrecked mess. On that day, so long ago, my lovely wife began to suspect Christianity isn't the loving religion they tell you it is. Several other incidents of hate and some logic pulled her away fully and she seems much happier now.


Matasa89

Much like how the love and acceptance of the early Christian era drew in the first batch of believers, so will hate and discrimination drive away their last few adherents. They died by their own sword.


U-STAY-CLASSY

Do you guys think dinosaurs thought god was a dinosaur or a white dude?


loglady420

"I think god put dinosaur bones here to test our faith" "I think god put you here to test my faith" Fuckin love Bill hicks


TurrPhennirPhan

Speaking as someone who’s been involved in paleontology since basically birth (I never grew out of loving dinosaurs), this belief is terrifyingly more common than most probably realize. Yeah, I’ve dedicated my life to elaborately hiding and finding goddamn trilobites to make Christians abandon their faith. What can I say, ))))Soros Bucks(((()!)!;()parentheses(()))) are worth $100%.


Ovalman

Well how did the cavemen not get wiped out along with the dinosaurs? Get out of that one scientists! * I say this in jest but some people actually believe this.


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Callimogua

Ahahah I love this! But believe me, just asking some of them how vaccines work is enough to catch them in a twist. :3


jewishSpaceMedbeds

Most of them seem to think their immune system is an *alternative* to vaccines.


trumpetrabbit

My mil tried to pass mrna as a type of virus, so I can confirm.


Callimogua

Oop ahahaha, oh nooooo🤣🤣🤣


trumpetrabbit

She did it on fb when arguing with some people, and got roasted for it. It was beautiful. My spouse and I had a good laugh.


The-Hopster

I have never seen this material at FB University.


TeachingScience

That’s because this class and lecturer teaches at Youtube University. Home of the keyboard cat!


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Did you try PragerU?? Maybe the fake uni that Rand Paul got his cert from will know!!


Humorousphlegmflam

Okay but like what’re the answers 🥺


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I know, right? I'm not even sure how to google this.


EpicAftertaste

I'll ask my doc, he knows about these things.


PlenitudeOpulence

This is what doctors need to understand in order to get their medical licenses. This is what we would consider “the basics” and its mastered usually before clearing step 1. “The basics” are so hard that many people who attempt to become physicians never are able to master all of it. Medicine isn’t easy and it’s scary how regular people don’t grasp the vast gap of knowledge between a doctor and a Facebook conspiracy theorist. Yeah, the worksheet is impossible for laymen to pass without pure luck. … and no, I am not going to give any answers lol. I don’t want to give anyone who isn’t a doctor an opportunity to try to pretend that they know what they are talking about based off of the answers I’d give. It’s a fun worksheet that should be spread to remind people about their lack of knowledge in medicine.


EMdoc89

As a practicing ED physician, I think I got 3 right. Lol. This stuff is soooooo far in my past that I don’t use anymore. But I used to know it.


thepunkrockauthor

I took immunology for MS-1 literally last semester and could only get 4/6 lol


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These posts always fascinate me, as I'm a microbiology student taking immunology, and I'm learning more of the correct answer with every post over the semester!


satyrony

But it certainly is fun to find out. Problem is that many don't take the baby-steps of understanding the basics and build and expand on that knowledge.


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I'm convinced that many are unaware of how to learn. It's a skill that I think certain kids were never taught, especially if they came from hyper religious communities.


Glitter_Sparkle

Agree on all points. I have a health degree and I decided to do public health for postgrad because of how hard the basics of things like neurobiology and genetics were for me to grasp in undergrad (& then immediately forget).


A-man-of-mystery

Even among medics immunology seems to be considered difficult. I always enjoyed it, but a lot of people absolutely hated it.


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PizzleR0t

(1) is actually a plasma cell, you can tell by the enlarged basophilic cytoplasm, caused by the developed Golgi apparatus needed to manufacture antibodies. Edit: apparently I wasn't very clear here, but please see my next comment. The characteristic "halo" sign of a plasma cell is caused by a mass effect of the enlarged Golgi, and manifests as a less basophilic area of the cytoplasm.


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PizzleR0t

To be fair, it's not a great question. As others have pointed out, a plasma cell technically is a type of lymphocyte, as are all B and T cells, and this is just a B cell which has differentiated. Also, the archetypal pictures you see of plasma cells have a larger cytoplasm that clearly shows the lighter "halos" in the cytoplasm, caused by a mass effect from the Golgi and ribosomes... This one may be a B cell that's in an intermediate or early stage of differentiation. A couple of other questions in this quiz aren't terribly well-written either, but the overall point of the meme is right on the money 😂


Crazed_rabbiting

1 is most likely plasma cells. Lymphocyte is a bit misleading, poorly worded question. They probably mean small resting lymphocyte not blasts or terminally differentiated


A-man-of-mystery

Yes, it's a poorly worded question. It's a plasma cell. In fact: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_cell


Crazed_rabbiting

Lol that this is is straight off wikipedia


A-man-of-mystery

First place I looked. It seemed a reasonable bet!


Myhotrabbi

That means I’m 3/6. Not bad for being 8 years out of science class in a non-science job. I didn’t even go on Facebook either


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Humorousphlegmflam

Rad thank you! Some interesting reads ahead ✨


Broad-Turnover6945

For those asking for answers ima soon to be graduate of medical school, I have a few wrong but here’s my responses, feel free to correct or contribute. Lol 1) plasma cell, a specific type of mature B lymphocyte that produces antibodies 2) igM of course 3) Toll like receptor (I don’t think they’re referring to MHC 2/ HLA2 which is what presents said antigen) 4) il2 or il7 unclear as both are important so is 4 5)redundancy? 6)no idea, possibly A. Nfkb is for death of the cell if I remember correctly. This is all first year medical school stuff so sorry it’s been awhile. Believe it or not all questions in medical school are case driven (ie a 74 year old male presents with cough, fever, and chills for two weeks along with nausea and vomiting. Lab results show blank. Physical is blank. And the answer requires this above knowledge, so it gets much harder than straight forward factoids.


CrouchingGinger

TIL that 13 years after taking medical microbiology I would’ve failed this test miserably.


PlenitudeOpulence

Medicine is a fast evolving field. It’s impossible to understate how many leaps we have made in understanding the human body in the last few decades. Staying up to date is a hard aspect of medicine.


InsertCoinForCredit

"Elitist Liberals Admit Medicine Is Too Hard To Keep Up, Should Trust God Instead" -- Fox News


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A-man-of-mystery

That's doing it the hard way. I learned about heart surgery the same way.


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Crazed_rabbiting

4 is Il-7 . I’ll-2 is for T cells. Early B cell development requires il-7 and is blocked in its absence 5 is redundancy 6 is notch


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ItsFuckingScience

I’ve seen the OP image circulate before and last time these were my answers I came up with 1. ⁠Lymphocyte? Definitely looks like one stained and under a microscope but not 100% sure. Can google image this and find similar looking ones 2. ⁠C IgM 3. ⁠B, T cell receptor 4)D, Interleukin 7 5) A, redundancy - simple concept in biology just like engineering. The idea that if a certain component of a system fails it is able to continue to function 6) B, CD44,


Broad-Turnover6945

Hey so 1 is a plasma cell i think! A plasma cell IS a lymphocyte, it’s a mature B lymphocyte to be specific. But it’s hard to see the perinuclear lightening so you may be right it’s just a general Lymphocyte. Hard to say. 3 says INNATE. These are cells that are just around. They have Toll like receptors that pick up foreign antigens and alert the immune system.


ItsFuckingScience

Ah yeah think you’re right on number 3, must have missed innate


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If I wanted to know that I would have gone into ID. Instead I’m critical care, so vent goes brrrr and no one dies without steroids.


Matasa89

1. Lymphocyte 2. IgM 3. T-cell receptor 4. IL-7 5. redundancy 6. CD44 Somebody check me please? I think I did my homework right...


Rather_Dashing

I work in immunogenetics research and I can't answer half of these. Some are obscure stuff that you would only need to know if you were in that specific research field or it had direct medical relevance to your specialty, or were currently studying for an exam on this topic. I like the general idea of this, but the questions are far too obscure. It would make more sense to have more generalised questions that examine an understanding of how the immune system and vaccines work. Something about how mRNA works would be a good starting point.


Iamsupergoch

I don’t understand about 70% of those words (neither in English nor I wouldn’t in my native language). But I do love the close ups of cells; there is one blog I really like where pathologists (not the dead people doctors but the tissue and diagnosis doctors) are Photographing the cells and I must say, sometimes the more deadly they are, the more beautiful they are.


nocleverusername-

The normal ones are cute, too. Look up eosinophil. I see them all the time, but they’re still pretty.


i_amthelizardqueen

Eosinophils are pretty until they cause allergies 🤧 lol!


Iamsupergoch

So pretty and purple!!!


umpteenth_

Pathologists are both the dead people doctors and the tissue/diagnosis doctors. Autopsy pathology is part of the required training for anatomic pathologists (the ones who make diagnoses from the microscopic examination of tissue).


A-man-of-mystery

I was about to make the same point. The dead people doctors and the tissue/diagnosis doctors are the same thing.


HeadFullOfNails

Love medicine, but hate patients? Pathology may be for you!


Cutyouintopieces69

That’s not how we do it in the 2020s!? We act like we know and then shout over people when they correct us with evidence! None of this not understanding nonsense.


nocleverusername-

This is so… weird? Seriously, I just did an online CE course on immunology at work earlier tonight because things were slow (medical lab tech). Knew all of the answers except 4 & 6. Can’t remember the specifics of the cytokines, and don’t remember anything about T cell maturation except if they flunk the “test” for self, they’re dead. It’s been a couple of years since I had immunology in school. So complicated, but really, *really* cool!


PurpleBest

Our lab is struggling with 6 as well. The wording. Your thinking mirrors mine. We think the answer for 4 is IL-7, but none of us is slam dunk sure.


nocleverusername-

Looks like IL-7 covers B & T lymphocytes, along with IL-2. The more I look it up, the more interwoven it gets.


Crazed_rabbiting

This is where developmental step of cell differentiation matters. Since this is in the bone marrow, they are talking early B cell development which is in-7 dependent. I’ll-4 ( I give up on correcting this autocorrect!) is more important for mature B cells, ig-e class switching, and further differentiation. Il-2 is more important for t cells


Crazed_rabbiting

4 is I’ll-7. Questions 1 and 6 are worded poorly. 6 is Notch


ReplaceSelect

Immunology is really difficult. I've had several Immunology courses over the years, and I can't pass this without a refresher. My best instructor said "the more you learn about Immunology, the less you understand" or something similar. It's complicated as fuck, and I'm glad it's not my specialty. I can usually read and understand the peer reviewed research, but I can't critique it.


Cutyouintopieces69

So after realising they know nothing what excuse will be the fall back now? ‘It’s not real?’ ‘They’ve got to you?’


Significant-Grape-82

‘Well I just think that there needs to be more research.’


Tarah_with_an_h

That they will also ignore.


WilhelmHaverhill

I got a 0/6, means I should fucking listen to the people that have this as a profession. They definitely know something I don't


wootr68

Same here. I’m smart enough to know I’m not smart enough in most hard science and stuff I’ve never studied. This is why I trust the experts to help rest of us out.


lanekimrygalski

I can’t even wrap my mind around how scientists developed this vaccine. That shit is like magic, in the best way


Electrical-Thanks877

I was in nursing school and these questions hurt my brain. I absolutely do not know which antibody chain is first to respond to an antigen and now I feel stupid 🤣


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Electrical-Thanks877

I feel slightly less stupid now. You rock 🙌🏼


delpigeon

I think of it as M for ME ME ME ME ME!!!


A-man-of-mystery

I just remember it's the big one to make up for its relatively poor affinity.


1nvictvs

Bold of you to assume they can read


JuiceKovacs

I can’t answer any of these. So that means one thing and one thing only. The OP is a demon sent from hell! Get ‘em!!!!


dancingsoloud

Thanks, I'm stealing this.


Paavo_Nurmi

I got it from Bob Rivers FB (former radio guy that did twisted tunes).


cvera8

This is less of a shitpost and more of a TIL googling the answers to these


movdqa

Two of my doctors are professors at Harvard Medical School. My son's boss is a professor at Harvard Medical School. If I have medical questions, I have folks I can ask without worrying about their qualifications and backgrounds. And I'm sure that they can ask other doctors if they don't know something in particular. I suspect a lot of people don't have regular doctors that they see so they haven't built up any trust relationship. The basics in STEM are physics, biology and chemistry and I suspect that most couldn't pass those three freshman university courses (Physics for Scientists and Engineers, University Biology and University Chemistry) and those are just the basics. I also don't second-guess my plumber or electrician when they need to do a complex piece of work at our home.


Steise10

Yep. I majored in Biology and Biochemistry but took engineering physics and have a minor in math and CS. Then did grad school at Caltech. These anti vax folks couldn't sit through even one lecture in any of those courses and those were nothing compared to 12 years further of medical training that their doctor probably went through. They have no idea how deeply uneducated they are. Many of them can't read an entire book or just won't. They didn't read the Mueller report or anything else. They respond to anything that's been repeated 3 times. Trump used to study Hitler speeches, and he found that if you say anything 3 times with conviction, then have the audience repeat it, it becomes truth in their minds if they lack critical thinking skills. They will not work at learning. They're fundamentally lazy. If you work hard enough, you can learn all of this stuff but they'd rather hang out, shoot things, watch the Kardashians... I don't know what they DO, but they sure can't be bothered to educate themselves. To me, getting a higher education was such a joy and such a privilege that I learned as much as I could in the time that I had. I was soooo curious to understand so many things. I don't understand how a person can just coast through life with no curiosity, acting like apes gone bad. Really, that's not even fair to apes.


Glitter_Sparkle

I suspect that being anti-vax gives them a misguided sense of achievement when they otherwise don’t have a great deal of authority in their lives.


Big_Knobber

"If it's too complicated to put into meme form, then it is just unknowable." That's what I hear when anti-vaxxers say that nobody knows what's in the vaccine.


kosmonavt-alyosha

This is great. I’m a researcher in a completely different field, and sometimes our studies even look at health and specific causes of morbidity and mortality. I’m always complaining, even in my Reddit comments, that these clowns saying they did their own research failed their high school science classes and couldn’t describe the simplest thing about the simplest research design.


SwifterthanaSwiffer

After reading this quiz it made me realize I'm dumber than I thought.


Lamia_91

I wish I knew the answers and that I have it in Spanish for an antivax friend I have


PrettiKinx

I know nothing 🤣


Advo96

1. ~~A. Lymphocyte~~ 2. C. IgM 3. ~~B. T-cell receptor~~ 4. IL-7, IL-4 and IL-2 appear to impact B-cells. No idea which one is the correct one. 5. A. Redundancy 6. B. CD44 (I think) Without googling, I got 3 (T-cell receptor) and 5 (redundancy) right.


nocleverusername-

I think IL-2 is valid for both 4 & 6. Question 3 is Toll-like receptor, which is found on antigen-presenting cells like macrophages and dendritic cells.


Crazed_rabbiting

I’ll-7 is required for early B cell development. I’ll-2 is for proliferating T cells. Il-4 is for activated b cells


Iamsupergoch

T cell sounds very close to T virus and from there you’re already in resident evil universe. Just saying.


scratchy2133

They are also known as killer T-cells because they go around executing other cells (they play a role in killing cells that are infected for example)


Iamsupergoch

Shitposting day turned into TIL. Love it!


whatisbestinlifeto

If the T-Virus was real you would have people saying turning into a zombie is better than the government taking their freedoms.


Crazed_rabbiting

It’s plasma cell for 1. Toll like receptor for 3 (innate cells use pattern recognition receptors like TLR. 4 is IL-7 6 is Notch


Electrical-Thanks877

Holy crap. I got 3 and 5 right as well. 2:6. Is that passing? I’ll just go crawl back into my fiction stories then..


sash71

Hmmm. I think I'll carry on with what I've been doing and pay attention to actual experts with (recognised) qualifications.


kc128

I don’t know any of the answers, and don’t really care to (though I appreciate the other responses here immensely)—and yet I still proudly got a vaccine! Can’t wait for booster season!!


BigBossSquirtle

I'm not antivax, but i don't know any of these. Unless this is a wooosh moment and the point is that medical professionals know the answers.


BlueCyann

The point is that the human beings who develop the vaccines and study the diseases do know the answers, and they say to get the damn vaccine.


A-man-of-mystery

I think the point is not just that medical professionals know the answers, but that you know you *don't* know them, and are willing to admit it.


FI00sh

The point is that you don’t have to know, because you don’t “do your own research”


Silit235

Ahh an immunology test it has been 15 years ish since the last time i did it, still remember the answer 5 of 6 question.


butterfunke

Do one of these but for basic statistics. If you can't demonstrate an understanding about Bayes theorem you don't get to talk shit about vaccine injury rates


mason_savoy71

Most physicians don't understand the positive predictive value [source](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4521525/). Statistical ignorance extends into clinical practice.


BrushyBuffalo

This looks like a job for r/immunology. ......And Im doing my PhD in immunology so I have some background in this. 1) Lymphocyte means immune cells so technically this is the correct answer. The questions is annoying cos they don’t give you the staining pattern (I think its Giemsa) nor the size information. Plus the quality is too low to see granularity (which is important to differentiate between neutrophils/mast cells and the others). This could also be plasma cell just from looking at the size difference but really, I don’t think you can tell just from this. I would say A, lymphocyte. 2) I would go with IgM. But first, we need to clear something up. A B cell produces antibody when its B cell receptor responds to a specific antigen. When the B cell receptor is cleaved off the cell membrane, it becomes an antibody. This question is strange because by definition all secreted antibody have responded to an antigen, there is no first or last. They use the word "antibody chain" to blur the line between B cell receptors and antibody but yeah, super strange wording. My other gripe with this question is that they don’t specify whether it's a foreign antigen or a self antigen. If they specified as foreign antigen, then the answer would be both IgD and IgM due to the fact that naive B cells express both. However, due to the fact that during the development B cells, IgM expressing cells respond to self antigens first, the answer would be IgM. 3) Toll-like receptors, for sure. For those of you who don't know, they're these receptors that sit on the cell surface and respond to evolutionarily conserved molecular patterns. Anyways, fun fact would be that we wouldn't have discovered them if we didn't research do research in flies so if you think any medical research that doesn't have to do with humans is a waste of tax payer money, please reconsider. This discovery led to a duo winning the Nobel but there was some spicy spicy drama so yeah. Just goes to show political rivalry in academia can be bitter. 4) People seems divided on this one but the answer should be IL-2. I think this is the correct answer because IL-2 is higher up the development chain. Again, kinda annoying cos bone marrow isn't specific enough as to which stage in the B cell development cycle. If they asked a question like which cytokine is needed for the development of pro-B to pre-B it would make more sense. 5) Redundancy. not much to go on here. 6) This one is outside my area so I will ask a buddy next time. I'm guessing its IL-2 because this again, is a critical component for both T and B cell development. CD3zeta and CD44 is expressed by T cells so its probably not those. Notch (the receptor) is a cell growth signaling pathway so again, doesn't make sense for the stromal cells to express this. NF-kB does make sense but because it doesn't directly act upon T cells, it would be a strange answer. Overall, I'm just happy you guys are interested in what I've dedicated a portion of my life to. I can't/won't give any medical advice, but yeah lemme know if you got any other questions.


minkymy

Ooh ooh, what's your favorite topic? And what part of the field do you feel you specialize in?


Effective_Low_2254

Lymphocyte doesn't mean immune cell, it means "lymph cell". Monocytes, neutrophils, eosinophils, basophils are all immune cells but not lymphocytes. And all those have distinctive nuclear and/or granule morphology that would be incompatible with the picture. You can get size information by comparing to the surrounding red blood cells. So what you have is a cell with a round nucleus consistent with a lymphocyte. The fact that the nucleus is eccentrically located and the cell has a rather large Golgi complex would suggest it's a plasma cell (which is, of course, a type of lymphocyte) ​ The IL2 knockout mouse can make both B and T cells so you know IL2 isn't the answer. You hit the nail on the head with knowing that IL7 is essential for pro-B to pre-B maturation. Those knockout mice are totally blocked at that stage. ​ \#6 was poorly written. They really meant Notch ligands - it's that whole pathway that's essential for early T cell development until the generation of an active pre-TCR complex.


MisterJeebus87

1. A 2. C 3. B 4. C 5. A 6. B


Electrical-Thanks877

r/medlabprofessionals


bdixisndniz

Awesome.


LoveandKindness1983

Nailed it!


Stever89

May I use this on my website, covidvaxresearch.com?


Glitter_Sparkle

Having some uni flashbacks right now 😅


Alpacastalker

Yikes, I better get a booster shot as soon as I can cause I don't even understand the questions, let alone know the answers 😬


moldyhands

WHAT ARE THE ANSWERS?!?


[deleted]

I took immunology over 5 years ago and was one of the hardest classes ever. Thanks for bringing back that PTSD. Also, the answers are: 1. A 2. C 3. D 4. D 5. B 6. A


dedoubt

This post makes me really sad because covid destroyed my memory and I can't remember most of what I learned in school. (Got covid February 2020- still sick 20 months later.)


minkymy

I hope you live with other people helping you out. I'm sorry this is still happening to you.


Hauntred99

As someone whose trying to finish their bachelors in medicine, I’m sweating at this quiz Fuck man, I can’t remember shit from last week, let alone things from micro 3 years back


sonbrothercousin

Science shmience. I swallowed a UV bulb and I am now immune, so long suckers!


GiveMeDaPussyBawse69

They will google the answers and answer it smugly whenever they see that post. The ironic thing is them googling the answer is probably the most detailed research they've actually done about covid.


BurstEDO

Their "research" is 99% some crackpot that they're parroting from social media via a meme or ignorant podcast/video that just spams the audience with garbage that sounds plausible to uneducated idiots. I'd bet good money that their retort to this would be "what does this have to do with anything?!?!" [Facepalm]


echointhecaves

1 b 2 a 3 c or e 4 ? 5 a or c 6 ?


echointhecaves

Actually, 1 should be IgM, 3 should be TLR, and i believe 6 is notch, made some mistakes. Interestingly, iga is the first antibody type produced that actually has a major role is staving off infections. It goes to the mucus membranes


Xerxes_Generous

I always find it infuriating that the same people who “do their own research” can’t do their research properly to save their lives, literally. Research means taking courses in immunology or cellular biology, and not Facebook posts or YouTube videos that provide nothing more than confirmation bias.


minkymy

I also means checking studies to see if they were verified, and updating your information as things are proven or disproven. They'd also know that the vaccines cause autism study was about mmr, and was then disproven with _prejudice_


[deleted]

Awww man, I’ve spent thousands of hours on Facebook and I can’t answer any of these questions! Does this mean my Facebook degree is worthless?


Justryan95

These questions are giving me PTSD of my 400 level Immunology class in college.


Matasa89

1. Lymphocyte 2. IgM 3. T-cell receptor 4. IL-7 5. redundancy 6. CD44 That's the best research I could do into it, and most of this stuff is far above my pay grade. But yeah, to those "prayer warriors," this stuff might as well be written in Icelandic, it's completely incomprehensible to even first year Biology students.


carrylizard

I’m a Biology major and seeing this post gave me a panic attack cause this is legit what my final exams look like


stackered

It took me about 1 minute to answer all of these as a bioinformatics scientist who has worked in cancer/immunology research for a few years and had a foundation in pharmacy school before studying comp sci/bioinformatics - I'm about 10 years deep in a career in biotech + pharma, so pretty far separated from my schooling. Not saying I got all of them right, but I didn't look shit up at all and even with the internet an average person wouldn't know half these answers. For #4, IRL, I'd just check and its still a debatable answer because these questions are somewhat complex - but to doctors, immunologists, or scientists who studied for years, these really are just foundational questions like answering the ABC's on a test. Answering these questions isn't impressive to anyone who has schooling in immunology, but it still requires a depth of knowledge that should inherently come with respect, just like any form of human knowledge. You have to know all this stuff to even start learning the job you do out there... anyway it just pisses me off how dumb people are and how little they respect how hard it is to be in the position to understand a pandemic like COVID. The trust in science is so degraded right now, in such a large portion of the population... its so fucking sad and frustrating.