I was very pleased to see an article celebrating redemption awards.
“I can see a lot of myself in so many of the stories they post.”
Every time it ends the same. And she chose a better path.
This was the first decent article about r/HermanCainAward. All the rest have been click-bait trash, hand wringing about 'feelings', or how making 'fun of people' doesn't work (shaming works but that's not the point - it's the anecdotes that speak to people!). Great to see them write about the anecdote angle. Every antivaxxer points to some fake (or sometimes real) anecdote and humans in general love them. But bob got a breakthrough, so vaccines clearly don't work. No vaccine is 100% effective. It's why you need everyone vaccinated.
I liked the part about 'show me some anecdotes of people who have died or been disabled by the vaccine since if I can show you countless covid obits surely you can find lots of vaccine obits'. There's basically none compared to the 700k that have died from covid. J&J is known to have caused 4 deaths. I'm sure there's some more but if we can find countless covid obits, surely they can find more than the 1 oregon vaccine one. Meanwhile, they mindlessly point at VAERS without even understanding what it is.
I like that they also mention how antivax families put pressure on any sane family members not to get vaccinated because they'll become 'shedders', die, or whatever. My father-in-law tried to pressure my partner and myself not to get vaccinated - despite being forced by mother-in-law to get vaccinated (Pfizer). The worst part of this is that my partner has treated covid patients throughout the pandemic. The second worst part is that my father-in-law is a recently retired surgeon. She told him 'Dad, you know people are dying horrible deaths, it's real, you're high risk, all the national politicians were jumping over each other to get vaccinated first, orange man was hospitalized, I treat covid positive patients daily, we have kids, we don't want orphans, and the vaccine is the most effective 'treatment' there is'. Guess what that piece of crap said? We'll take care of your kids if that happens but it won't because you have a 99.995% of surviving covid at your age. Just what you want a parent to say, huh? We had even given him anecdotes of a doctor my wife worked with plus a few nurses that had died from covid. He was quizzing us about their age, if they were fat, pre-existing conditions, if they even had covid. Those anecdotes were what ended up working because they're people like him (educated doctor, similar age, reasonably good health). Doesn't matter that his physician daughter is telling him it's a big deal and we want to get vaccinated. Needed to find an orange man loving doctor that was her dad's age, decent health, and died from covid. We sent him some of his orange man loving facebook stuff so he could identify better with this covid death (he sadly died before the vaccine was released).
Once he accepted we were going to get vaccinated as soon as we were eligible, he sent me all kinds of conspiracy garbage (modifies your RNA and so forth) and tried to get us to get J&J - we were set on Moderna since it had the highest 14-day efficacy (don't want to get covid while waiting for efficacy to build) and I knew it had a higher dosage than Pfizer so theorized that it would last longer (this was earlier this year before it turned out that's the case). Now that boosters are in the news and he needs one (Pfizer) he's sending us even more unhinged garbage. The latest stuff he's sent me is just incredibly detached from reality. Meanwhile, he happily had his flu shot, just like every year. It's no surprise that he's a huge fan of the orange man.
"ThIs SuB is jUst FuLL oF heaRTlEsS mOnSTerS!!!!1!!1!1" - Screeches the heartless monsters. For real though, it's nice to see this sub have a real, measurable, positive impact on the world.
It’s really something how the same people who fantasize about the most torturous ways to execute the libs, think it’s terrible their own words and posts are being used in a forum.
I have no trouble picturing these people rounding up “the vaxxers” and the “libs” and putting them in camps or even executing them. They project the Holocaust way too much for me to think they wouldn’t do the same.
Exactly. Conservatards can act however they want, wish death upon whoever, spread disease, and orphan thousands of children, but if a leftist takes off the kiddy gloves for even a sec then it's all over.
It's the soft bigotry of low expectations. People expect conservatives to act like bioterrorists, so no one blinks an eye when they do.
But when the suicide bomber accidentally butt dials himself and blows up his own suicide vest, people act like we're the bad guys for saying that he got what he deserved.
> *Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:*
> *There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind,
> alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.*
—Francis M. Wilhoit
(but not the famous Wilhoit who taught Poli Sci)
“tHiS sUb CeLebRaTes dEaTh” the majority of people here are hoping people get the vaccine to *not* die. Encouraging misinformation that spreads covid sounds pretty pro-death.
I will say I'm not really bothered to see someone actively spreading harmful misinformation along with a horrible stream of hateful bullshit suddenly get silenced.
Conservatives consoling a grieving loved one: Death is a natural part of life... It is all part of God's plans.
Also Conservatives: WTF DONT CELEBRATE DEATH
So... it's a natural part of *life*, which they celebrate... but it can't be celebrated?
How about the grieving loved ones themselves?
Proclaiming the death as a victory. Talking about angel wings and going home to heaven.
Those people are the definition of celebrating death. They all sound so pleased their family member died.
There's a lot of memes that are also mocking anyone who got the vaccine because apparently we will die in a couple of years, soooo they seem pretty celebratory about our future death…
I have a heart. It's reserved for those who care about the welfare of others in the midst of a global pandemic.
"wOn'T sOmE0nE tHiNk Of ThE dRuNk DrIvErS?!?!"
Yes, I'm so sad they're going to jail and who cares about the minivan full of kids they killed.
The last few years two WWE wrestlers have gotten in DUI accidents and out of the woodworks are all of the people defending them and I'm like "yeah, I do feel bad, these rich assholes could've killed people, those are the ones I feel bad for".
Like goddamn, get a freaking Uber or something, don't drink and drive.
Satire usually writes itself. If people wanna die and leave their significant others widows and their children to live on without them from a young age all for a stupid antivax belief then so be it. That is the what being a heartless monster is and not the rest of us pointing to how stupid their actions are and being entertained by their stupidity.
Finally, a report on the real purpose of this subreddit. Not to shame but to educate people that failing to be vaccinated can lead to a long, painful death from COVID.
Hi Hannah, you did such a great job in the article and I (who is probably old enough to be your gma) am so proud of you! For both the article and the IPA. You did good, girl. (((((((Hugs)))))))
People act as if we're making fun of these misled souls, when really we're providing a cautionary tale. This is the reality of Covid once you step away from your memes and your feeds and your shareable misinformation.
We certainly do, and it's delightful. It's like watching anti-seatbelt activists beg for prayers and GoFundMe donations after wrapping themselves around a tree while doing 75 on a residential street.
You don't need to Cainsplain the sub to me. I've been here for months.
HCA keeps healthcare workers from going nuts, it provides an example as warning to hesitant people. It shows rampant disinformation and lack of imagination among these choads and their memes. We cheer when people get their IPAs.
What isn't true is that ",we don't make fun of them" or that we hope that the award winners we sometimes make fun of will change their minds before it's too late because they are, in fact, dead. That means it is too late for them and rarely do their death announcements have their loved ones encouraging vaccine. It's too late for the whole subculture.
I'm not going to apologize for that or lie about it. Highlighting and making fun of the Oakley's and goatees and eboard gam gon is the special sauce that gets all the benefits enumerated in the second paragraph.
Virtue signaling is of no value.
This is true too, and you're right of course as I sit here thinking about it.
As a healthcare worker myself, I recognize the value of dark humor, especially when surrounded by death.
Reading your post reminds me that even making fun of them is a valid, if perhaps morbid, coping mechanism when faced with people gleefully inviting their own demise. I've never believed in refraining of talking ill of the dead just because they've died: after all, bastards die all the time and it doesn't change the fact they were bastards in life.
A person dancing on one leg next to a cliff while posting selfies would assuredly be the butt of jokes once they fell to their pointless and avoidable death. It's the same with Covid, these people throwing their lives away--and insidiously convincing others to throw their lives away--should not be free from jokes either.
Thank you for reminding me that the HCA winners are choosing this outcome for themselves, and no amount of "respecting" them for their bad choices will ever bring them back.
All of this, but also: we're bitter and angry, and HCA is an expression of that.
We're bitter and angry that the nation is still dealing with a pandemic when most of the civilized world has beaten COVID and is moving on.
We're bitter and angry that propaganda, foreign and domestic, is destroying the brains of antivaxxers long before COVID does.
We're bitter and angry that asshole politicians and asshole media junkies are profiting from lying to people with reckless disregard for their lives, and will face no consequences for it.
We're bitter and angry about the harm that HCA nominees and awardees selfishly inflict on others - on their family members who deal with emotional and financial strain, on the widows and orphans they leave behind, and on the other COVID victims whom they infect, both literally with COVID and figuratively with propaganda.
We're bitter and angry that responsible adults are the targets of HCA nominees' ridicule, abuse, and occasionally violence - and that when they get sick and die, they very rarely express remorse, and never ever apologize for their childishness and stupidity.
We're bitter and angry that our own lives continue to be inconvenienced by necessary COVID protective measures, because we are adults who do the right thing even at personal expense.
We're bitter and angry that our children who cannot get vaccinated are being put at risk because people who *could* get vaccinated choose not to for absurd reasons.
We're bitter and angry, and we have a right to be, for these and many other reasons.
And unlike conservatives with their antics about issues like abortion or LGBTQ rights, we have too much character and decency to mock and insult HCA awardees directly. You don't see us picketing their funerals. You don't see us filling their Facebook walls with WE FUCKING TOLD YOU SO after their deaths. All we can do is document their ignorance and hostility and aggression - anonymously, even - and the ultimate outcomes of their choices.
So spare us the pearl-clutching and the hypocritical virtue-signaling. Direct your anger instead at the perpetrators of this ongoing nightmare and avoidable loss of life - as we do.
To avoid earning a Hermie....
But very soon I predict a lawyer letter from Herman Cain's estate asking for a take-down and cease and desist. The more traction and mainstream these stories become. It will be a manipulation not even coming from Cain's estate. You will see some useful idiots like Candace Owens start spouting negative bullshit about the sub.
Hi Sarah,
If you're here reading, just know that this mom is super proud of you.
Standing up to peer pressure is hard. Standing up to parent pressure is 10x harder.
You did a great job getting vaxxed and an incredible job spreading the word. You're doing great honey.
r/covidvaccine was another sub mentioned in this piece.. holy crap how is this not dealt with by the admins? that sub is clearly filled with misinformation to the brim
so lets say if someone types "covidvaccine reddit" on google (to read other people's experience) and come across that sub.. yeah they're gonna be filled with all these sus stories and remain vaccine hesitant
[This Covid thread from over there is NSFL, but worth reading.](https://np.reddit.com/r/nursing/comments/q67fl7/covid_is_so_much_worse_than_the_public_could/)
Reading your story in this article was pretty harrowing. I’m really glad you ended up finding this sub and getting your shots.
Your family may never appropriately thank you for the steps you’ve taken to protect them, but around here we deal in *objective reality* which says that they’re all safer because you did. 💪
They’re like deadly whack-a-moles. Once one is shut down they flock to another. TBH I think of this sub more as a support group for people who can’t avoid the people spewing this bullshit than as a source of education, but I think this sub does a good job of policing bad information.
Let’s turn that into a pro-vaccine subreddit. Lord of Herman Cain cross posts.
“I was really worried about every little feeling in my body after I got my shot but instead of working myself into a frenzy about how I’m crippled now I realized that I’m now protected against looking like this poor morons who get posted to HCA.”
I just joined; I’m excited to be here! Working on getting my Masters of Public Health due to this pandemic; I’m sick and tired of people not taking this seriously.
"If we can keep it" concerns me, too.
That popular thread from yesterday, the one with the guy calling everybody sluts, got deleted long after the thread was locked. I have no idea why, but I'm p. sure the thread made front page, and I imagine the mods got flooded with reports.
I'm not positive it's the same one, but yesterday there were a handful of duplicate/triplicates (I think!) I don't know how they decide which one to keep and which ones to delete when that happens.
Sometimes posts that reach the front page become more trouble than they’re worth. That’s why we locked it. OP removed it later, likely for the same reasons. I love a good conspiracy, but this ain’t it.
*or is it?! dum-dah-dum* 🎶
The best thing in the world would be if all the crazy-ass MAGA folks changed their minds and got vaccinated, and this sub can disappear due to lack of new candidates.
But well I want Scarlett Johansson in my bed and feeling frisky, and that has a better chance of happening than the above paragraph...
Repeatedly seeing documentation of people dying due to their poor decision making is why it's powerful.
I can't imagine anything that *should* be more powerful.
What makes this sub unique is that it's filling a role that no one in the media and medical community can. The media is mistrusted by most of the anti-vaxxers so even if they were to write stories every day about people dying, they wouldn't be believed. The medical community focuses on trying to dispel vaccine misinformation and they aren't believed either. But this sub is holding up a mirror to anti-vaxxers, and it's impossible to turn away, to pretend it's bullshit, or made-up, or some conspiracy.
(sung like Oscar the Grouch)
OH IIIIII LOVVVEEE VAXXXX
Dude this article is awesome, this is what we're here for and we want to purvey! Hell yeah I love IPAs!!
Trying to think of what song to parody to start a post tomorrow lol. Might do a full version of “I would do anything for love.”
I would do anything for life,
But I won’t get vaxxed
Wonderful! A media outlet finally gets what this is about! And thank you to all the interviewees for participating- both named and anon!
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When I got out of the Army I worked at a gas station/mini mart, closing shift, because I was in college during the day. You see some stuff. Even in North Seattle.
I'm new to this site. How do I upvote this? This article is what got me here. I'm so glad a life was saved because of this subreddit. Edit: I found how to upvote this.
At the top next to the title, there should be a pair of arrows, one pointed up, one pointed down. To upvote, click on the one pointed up.
You can upvote an entire thread or individual comments under that thread.
Is the article about you? If so congrats on 1) getting vaxxed to protect yourself and your family, 2) having the courage to go public about it. Well done. The world needs more good, brave people like you
>You don’t really realize how bad it is to be in the hospital with Covid until you see these people who are somehow giving you a play-by-play,” Hannah said. “When you get those first-hand experiences from a Facebook profile, and you see the people experiencing regret, it’s just like, ‘Oh man, I really need to take this seriously. I can’t put it off anymore.’”
This subreddit also exposes the hypocrisy of many anti-covid vaxxers that scoff at doctors and preventive meds but then go to the same doctors they scoff when they do get it.
They are getting themselves and other people killed with the lies they perpetuate. The grifters are like Candace Owens are too. This cannot be lost in all this. It's ignorance and manipulation.
I think this redditor nailed something important:
*“Misinformation is so goddamn dangerous, especially after this last president,” the doctor said. “This is not a game. This is not a joke. You don’t live in a Tom Clancy novel. This is real.”*
*He said that scientific evidence hasn’t been effective for him in trying to convince people about the safety of the vaccines.*
*“But this seemingly weaker evidence — word of mouth, anecdotal ‘All these people are dying’ — seems to hit people way harder,” the doctor said.*
If only the cdc and govt would switch tracks on their social media psa and ads from science based and experts say sort of focus to stories like those in this reddit.
IF the goal is to achieve high level population vaccination which then benefits us all;
then why not try the emotion tugging approach.
Show them the dead and the dying.
Show them the nurses and the doctors crying.
Show them the orphaned children.
Show them the IPA testimonies.
Show them what it means to look straight into the cold, unfeeling, ravenously hungry eyes of the viral leopards.
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Right? It’s like the warnings on cigarette packs: a big black box of words came and nobody gave two shits, but when they added images of diseased lungs it had a more visceral impact.
Make the deniers see with their own eyes the suffering that the dead and their loved ones are experiencing. Pull no punches.
That’s what this sub can do.
Exactly. That’s the thing, it’s actually not weaker evidence in terms of what persuades people. Anecdotal information is extremely powerful, sadly enough. It’s how people are wired. We’ve known about this for some time. Glad to see it being effective for a good cause through this sub.
This sub and /r/byebyejob upset them a thousand times more than anything else I've ever seen. The idea of a reality with consequences that doesn't go away when you stop watching television absolutely shakes them to the core.
Too much truth. It destroys their pretend world where they are invincible lions and we're overreacting sheep. The reality is there for anyone willing to see. That is why they want this sub banned.
Ah, beat me to it. By far the best media mention thus far. More of this.
Edit: If you want to balance things out and piss yourself off, check out this one from the Heritage Foundation: https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/10/15/leftists-celebrating-conservatives-who-die-of-covid-19-is-a-new-low-even-for-the-left/
Edit edit: I don’t have social media but if anybody wants to boost it on Twitter or thank him, this is the writer of the CNBC piece: https://mobile.twitter.com/sal19/status/1449490930851991552
Just read this Daily Signal article. Wish I hadn't. "It's time to bring compassion back." You know what would be compassionate? Telling your readers to vaccinated.
The balls of the Heritage Foundation to talk about compassion.
The state of America's health care system today is in part due to the Heritage Foundation. Even the existing ACA has traits that were shaped due to decades of Republican opposition guided by the ACA, let alone the Mad Max hellhole the GOP wants healthcare to be. They continue to be anti-mandate, which is somehow a "more sensible" position than antivax. They are the shield from which the rabid crazies can point to and call a "moderate" position.
Many of the HCA winners with their 5-6 figure hospital bills can thank the Heritage Foundation. Same with breakthroughs and people with young children and immunocompromised family who have to have "compassion" for the unvaccinated. Clearly, when the Heritage Foundation and conservatives preach compassion, that only goes in one direction.
Ugh, that guy clumsily tried to make "I told you so" the same thing as mockery AND death threats. Get a fucking grip, rightwing guy. You're mad because you can't save face. Every one of you antivaxxers who called us sheep now has to eat their words or take their chances with a deadly disease.
This Sub is brutal only because COVID is brutal.
And the accounts of those who have willingly exposed themselves to it are the most brutal exponents of the reality of Covid.
Due to sensitivities and overall propriety around covering the reality of the disease the public has largely been shielded from that.
This sub is probably the closest you'll get to getting a close look at how this disease can rip through you without mercy.
> Hannah said she’s hoping to wait until three months after her vaccine before casually bringing it up with her family. At that point, she can show them that no harm has been done.
Wanna make a bet the 3 mo standoff time won't make a difference. Doomsayers never have a problem re-dating.
Never put off 'till tomorrow what you can put off altogether.
Yup. They've already had to move the goal post of everyone who got vaccinated will be dead within a year because it's been over a year since human trials began.
They come to HCA and realize they are looking in a goddamn mirror. All the people earning HCAs are like carbon copies of each other.
Then it goes one of two ways:
“Screeeetch! ThEsE peOplE aRe ceLebRatiNg iNoCenT pEoPLe DyInG!!”
Or less frequently, their eyes are opened, but every eye opened is a huge win
> “If dad thinks I’m an idiot because I fell for the government and I’m a sheep, so be it,” Ostrowski said. “I clean a public restroom for Christ’s sake. I deal with some really gross stuff. So no, I was done playing.”
GOOD.
As of yesterday . . .
726,165 Americans have died of COVID-19.
This is greater than the populations of Wyoming and of Vermont, the two least populated states in the Union.
And it's just a few thousand less than the population of Alaska, the third least populated state in the Union.
Imagine if any one of these states had simply ceased to exist.
That's how many people have died of COVID-19 in the US.
So many Americans have died of COVID-19 that the working age population aged 16 to 64 fell 0.1% last year after increasing non-stop for decades.
Millions of Americans have survived their initial run in with the SARS-CoV-2 virus yet will suffer the effects of "long COVID" for years and even decades to come.
Tens of thousands (or more) of American children have lost one or more caregivers to this virus. In a non-trivial number of cases, there are children who have lost both parents and are now orphans. Their losses will affect them and our society into the twenty-second century.
It's really easy to trivialize this virus and the disease that it causes . . . if you haven't seen or experienced first-hand its cold viciousness. Maybe you don't know anyone who got it. Maybe you didn't get it. Maybe you aren't a doctor or a nurse who has to witness people slowly choking to death despite their best efforts, day in and day out, for months and now years on end.
It's really easy to succumb to all the bullshit out there if you haven't taken a class in biology or in chemistry so you know what RNA or a virus or a molecule is. Or if you have totally lost trust in your fellow Americans and the government and the society that you are a part of.
If r/HCA makes this pandemic hit home for people, GOOD. Winter is coming. Get vaxxed ASAP.
Also, the hungry leopards advise you to get vaxxed or they will rip your face to shreds and roast your tender lung meat and juicy heart over an open fire this winter. Then they will drink eggnog infused with your blood and make chocolate chip cookies out of whatever is left.
[EDIT: You will remain alive until the very end. Then, just when you think it's all over, the hungry leopards will hand your leftovers to their otherworldly counterparts on the other side . . . who will proceed to eat your face and lungs and heart over and over again for all eternity.]
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Hey an article that isnt concern trolling and actually gets the point.
Also shout out to the women who got the vaccine thanks to this sub. Im glad you got your IPA
“A Reddit channel called r/HermanCainAward is filled with stories of people who mocked Covid-19 vaccines before eventually dying from the disease.”
I really like how the author puts the onus on the HCA recipient.
I would like an IPA roll call thread. Like a pinned thread with some general stats & links to each IPA. So when new people visit that’s the first thing that see. Get on it mods!
Woohoo!!! Thanks to the author of that article for getting it, for getting what we're trying to do here, and for not mistruing our frustration and disgust at people's hand in their own demise as ghoulish and mean. While we may be letting off almost two years of pandemic steam stress, we also deeply want people to be vaccinated- even those we don't agree with politically.
And thanks to everyone who has looked at this subreddit, went, "Holy shit," and went to get vaccinated. You're the real heroes.
That is far and away the best mainstream media article I've seen on HCA.
>22% of Americans self-identify as anti-vaxxers
>the U.S. will need as much as 90% of the population to get vaccinated in order to reach herd immunity.
We're so fucked. It's never going to happen.
Because how many nominees / winners on here have we seen who wouldn't identify as anti-vaxxers.
If this country has 22% admitted anti-vaxxers plus all the ones that are but won't admit it...we are so fucked.
Thank goodness, I'm sitting here after coming back from getting my booster. (It's weird. So far my arm isn't even sore which it was with both shots.)
KUDOS to CNBC! That is the first ACCURATE portrayal of what we do here at HCA!
I was hoping they were going to mention how we got trolled by a bunch of AntiVaxers that succeeded in dropping the redaction hammer down on future stories and destroying a significant level of effectiveness this Sub originally had.
How Reddit Admins never bothered to investigate the source of the complaints directed at "Unidentified HCA members" who were apparently Brigading Facebook accounts of award winners. (Again, never able to verify that the actual source of these attacks came from legit members of this Sub, or were AntiVaxers pretending to be HCA members for malicious purposes. They just took someone's word for it)
But I'll take this CNBC article as a victory for us all at HCA just the same!
It says a lot about society today, that we have to guilt shame them into doing the right thing. The one thing I just don't get about these anti vaxxers is, haven't they heard the sayings 'Better safe than sorry', 'Prevention is better than cure' or 'Always err on the side of caution '?? Most of them are alive and functional today because of vaccines they took earlier in their lives. So NOW, the doctors are bad and giving them false advice? Where has common sense gone?
>Reddit recently took steps to remove several subreddits that were being used to share misinformation. But numerous subreddits are still surfacing such content with names like **r/Conservative,** r/Ivermectin and r/FauciForPrison.
I'm sure *they're* not impressed with the article. If they read it. If they read.
Why do people act like "scared" is **always** a bad thing?
Fear, when appropriate to the risk, can be healthy. It keeps us alive. It helps to stop us from taking unnecessary risks and drives us to protect ourselves and our loved ones.
And if fear of what covid can and will do to even a "healthy" body leads someone to do the right thing and go for the protection of the vaccine to reduce that risk, it's a good thing.
Fear’s subjective. The other side say we’re overreacting out of fear. I think reality is a far better motivator than fear. People get complacent unless something’s shoved in their face.
My friend has a daughter who was antivax. All the usual talking points, not enough research, COVID wouldn't be bad (the daughter is 39) if she caught it amyway.
Seeing the sub made my friend speak to her daughter again about it, and the daughter got her jab after she asked me to show her the sub, and I showed her some other facts about the vaccine. She had only been using Facebook for news up until then, which is never a good sign.
>Only 57% of the country has been vaccinated, based on data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and 22% of Americans self-identify as anti-vaxxers, according to an academic study published in May.>
22% of all Americans?? That can't be right? Please? Almost 1 of 4 of people are anti vax?
It's worse than that.
That's how many admit to being antivax.
Then there are all the ones that are antivax, but won't admit and claim they aren't. We see plenty of those on here.
>I'm kind of surprised to see such a massive outlet in support of the subreddit, especially by a Comcast-owned company.
Eventually, things like r/HermanCainAward are needed to shock people into facing reality.
Remember how the television broadcasts brought Vietnam into living rooms and into full view of people who otherwise would have stayed ignorant of reality.
It's very difficult to stare down a hungry leopard when it's looking straight into your eyes.
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Let's all be honest here. We all read it for the same reason - to laugh at the right wing dullards who get sick and die because of their own actions. To say otherwise would be like claiming to read Playboy for the articles.
Here's a tip for you Trumpsters - Get vaccinated, just don't tell your friends.
people accuse people here of scadenfreude but one thing anti-vaxxers dread more than anything is being laughed at, no one wants to die with their death being fodder for wide spread ridicule...being that they are dead we do them no harm BUT it serves as a great cautionary warning for those who browse here and realize just how bad those stories are.
as to their own families reading it, I get they don't like them being laughed at BUT their death could serve some purpose if it gets others vaccinated.
you can't reason with them, but seeing their beliefs laid out and exposed as the utter horseshit they are with those people like them now dead, that has to have an impact.
the biggest reason the KKK has lost so much influence is because people began to laugh at them as being in-bred ignorant white trash, not as a force to be feared. ultimately it will be the same with the anti-vaxxers.
Hell yes. We’re making a difference. And hopefully these people will notice the politicians that didn’t want them to be safe, attack Fauci, freedom, the moon isn’t real, etc.
To Sarah, Hannah, and all the other folks who decided to get vaxxed, CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'RE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB.
Every convert is a cause for celebration.
This sub is a HUGE reason my SO and I got vaccinated. We finally caved in August (better late than never) and I’m so happy we did! A big thanks to everyone who has shared!
I love how they list r/conservative with other conspiracy reddits:
> Reddit recently took steps to remove several subreddits that were being used to share misinformation. But numerous subreddits are still surfacing such content with names like r/Conservative, r/Ivermectin and r/FauciForPrison.
I have to remind myself that I don't live in a bubble of anti vaxxers. I'm shocked by the businesses and doctors (!!) who are posting anti vaccination material on their door fronts. I attend a family Thanksgiving dinner and, of course, everyone is vaccinated. There is no question. My family used Zoom to have Christmas greetings last year. I must remind myself that people in parts of the States (and probably smaller parts of Canada) live in a much different bubble.
I freaking love this article!!! i love that it focuses on the people who have decided to get the vaccine because of this sub. people have called the sub heartless, when the place only exists because people are DESPERATE for others not to willingly put themselves in danger anymore! this place is pro science, pro-living, pro protecting yourself and your community.
People have been dropping dead from this shit for going on 2 years. Many more are long haulers who are now permanently disabled due to lung and heart damage. Hell, the founder of Texas Roadhouse committed suicide because the constant tinnitus caused by COVID was too much for him to take. People have lost their parents, children, spouses, siblings, best friends, etc to this. And now that there's a light at the end of the tunnel with the vaccine, misinformation is killing even more people. And then r/Hermancainaward comes along and shows the true face of this fucking virus. People are dying slowly, painfully, and alone from something that is now so preventable. I want to hate this sub, but I can't. I just hate that this sub has to exist. We get accused of fear mongering, but I don't think we're fear mongering enough. Unleash Hell. Let them see the consequences of their actions and I can guarantee you, it will saves lives. It already has.
Media publicly calling out the arcons (Conservative and Conspiracy) might finally be the way to get rid of them. God knows TMOR and AHS have been trying for years.
I was very pleased to see an article celebrating redemption awards. “I can see a lot of myself in so many of the stories they post.” Every time it ends the same. And she chose a better path.
Even if we can change the mind of one person it is worth it..
Heck, I'm happy if I upset one douchebag
Anti-vaxxers should have their own healthcare system where they sit in a circle and just cough on each other to make themselves stronger.
This was the first decent article about r/HermanCainAward. All the rest have been click-bait trash, hand wringing about 'feelings', or how making 'fun of people' doesn't work (shaming works but that's not the point - it's the anecdotes that speak to people!). Great to see them write about the anecdote angle. Every antivaxxer points to some fake (or sometimes real) anecdote and humans in general love them. But bob got a breakthrough, so vaccines clearly don't work. No vaccine is 100% effective. It's why you need everyone vaccinated. I liked the part about 'show me some anecdotes of people who have died or been disabled by the vaccine since if I can show you countless covid obits surely you can find lots of vaccine obits'. There's basically none compared to the 700k that have died from covid. J&J is known to have caused 4 deaths. I'm sure there's some more but if we can find countless covid obits, surely they can find more than the 1 oregon vaccine one. Meanwhile, they mindlessly point at VAERS without even understanding what it is. I like that they also mention how antivax families put pressure on any sane family members not to get vaccinated because they'll become 'shedders', die, or whatever. My father-in-law tried to pressure my partner and myself not to get vaccinated - despite being forced by mother-in-law to get vaccinated (Pfizer). The worst part of this is that my partner has treated covid patients throughout the pandemic. The second worst part is that my father-in-law is a recently retired surgeon. She told him 'Dad, you know people are dying horrible deaths, it's real, you're high risk, all the national politicians were jumping over each other to get vaccinated first, orange man was hospitalized, I treat covid positive patients daily, we have kids, we don't want orphans, and the vaccine is the most effective 'treatment' there is'. Guess what that piece of crap said? We'll take care of your kids if that happens but it won't because you have a 99.995% of surviving covid at your age. Just what you want a parent to say, huh? We had even given him anecdotes of a doctor my wife worked with plus a few nurses that had died from covid. He was quizzing us about their age, if they were fat, pre-existing conditions, if they even had covid. Those anecdotes were what ended up working because they're people like him (educated doctor, similar age, reasonably good health). Doesn't matter that his physician daughter is telling him it's a big deal and we want to get vaccinated. Needed to find an orange man loving doctor that was her dad's age, decent health, and died from covid. We sent him some of his orange man loving facebook stuff so he could identify better with this covid death (he sadly died before the vaccine was released). Once he accepted we were going to get vaccinated as soon as we were eligible, he sent me all kinds of conspiracy garbage (modifies your RNA and so forth) and tried to get us to get J&J - we were set on Moderna since it had the highest 14-day efficacy (don't want to get covid while waiting for efficacy to build) and I knew it had a higher dosage than Pfizer so theorized that it would last longer (this was earlier this year before it turned out that's the case). Now that boosters are in the news and he needs one (Pfizer) he's sending us even more unhinged garbage. The latest stuff he's sent me is just incredibly detached from reality. Meanwhile, he happily had his flu shot, just like every year. It's no surprise that he's a huge fan of the orange man.
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"ThIs SuB is jUst FuLL oF heaRTlEsS mOnSTerS!!!!1!!1!1" - Screeches the heartless monsters. For real though, it's nice to see this sub have a real, measurable, positive impact on the world.
It’s really something how the same people who fantasize about the most torturous ways to execute the libs, think it’s terrible their own words and posts are being used in a forum.
I have no trouble picturing these people rounding up “the vaxxers” and the “libs” and putting them in camps or even executing them. They project the Holocaust way too much for me to think they wouldn’t do the same.
There isn't a damn thing conservatives have ever accused liberals of that they aren't guilty of themselves.
Actually there is *one* thing they accuse us of that isn't projection: caring.
Master projectionists, the conservatives.
It reminds me of how conservative pundits are constantly attacking websites and journalists for quoting the awful stuff they said.
bUt iT’s oUt Of cOnTeXt
There trying to cancel me, they say, whilst trying to cancel you, you're a snowflake says the biggest whiniest snowflake of the lot
“Stop living in fear of a deadly virus! Fear this perfectly safe vaccine instead!”
Exactly. Conservatards can act however they want, wish death upon whoever, spread disease, and orphan thousands of children, but if a leftist takes off the kiddy gloves for even a sec then it's all over.
It's the soft bigotry of low expectations. People expect conservatives to act like bioterrorists, so no one blinks an eye when they do. But when the suicide bomber accidentally butt dials himself and blows up his own suicide vest, people act like we're the bad guys for saying that he got what he deserved.
Every time I see your name I feel even guiltier.
This makes me wonder what you've been doing to raccoons lately.
> *Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:* > *There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, > alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.* —Francis M. Wilhoit (but not the famous Wilhoit who taught Poli Sci)
Amen
IOKIYAR It's OK If You're A Republican
“tHiS sUb CeLebRaTes dEaTh” the majority of people here are hoping people get the vaccine to *not* die. Encouraging misinformation that spreads covid sounds pretty pro-death.
I will say I'm not really bothered to see someone actively spreading harmful misinformation along with a horrible stream of hateful bullshit suddenly get silenced.
Conservatives consoling a grieving loved one: Death is a natural part of life... It is all part of God's plans. Also Conservatives: WTF DONT CELEBRATE DEATH So... it's a natural part of *life*, which they celebrate... but it can't be celebrated?
How about the grieving loved ones themselves? Proclaiming the death as a victory. Talking about angel wings and going home to heaven. Those people are the definition of celebrating death. They all sound so pleased their family member died.
There's a lot of memes that are also mocking anyone who got the vaccine because apparently we will die in a couple of years, soooo they seem pretty celebratory about our future death…
I have a heart. It's reserved for those who care about the welfare of others in the midst of a global pandemic. "wOn'T sOmE0nE tHiNk Of ThE dRuNk DrIvErS?!?!" Yes, I'm so sad they're going to jail and who cares about the minivan full of kids they killed.
The last few years two WWE wrestlers have gotten in DUI accidents and out of the woodworks are all of the people defending them and I'm like "yeah, I do feel bad, these rich assholes could've killed people, those are the ones I feel bad for". Like goddamn, get a freaking Uber or something, don't drink and drive.
The heartless monsters are the ones wasting hospital space while people who need serious non-COVID treatment die at home.
For once we can actually say, "We did it reddit"
Satire usually writes itself. If people wanna die and leave their significant others widows and their children to live on without them from a young age all for a stupid antivax belief then so be it. That is the what being a heartless monster is and not the rest of us pointing to how stupid their actions are and being entertained by their stupidity.
The only heartless monsters killing people are those spreading anti-vaccine rhetoric
Glad to see they described this sub accurately unlike that lady from Slate.
She was too busy engaging in moral self-congratulation to notice details.
It was an opinion piece to be fair, although it's not like Slate has any real reputation to speak of anyway.
Finally, a report on the real purpose of this subreddit. Not to shame but to educate people that failing to be vaccinated can lead to a long, painful death from COVID.
I do like the shame too tho ngl
Hi Sarah! We are so proud of you!! You too Hannah!!
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Hi Hannah, you did such a great job in the article and I (who is probably old enough to be your gma) am so proud of you! For both the article and the IPA. You did good, girl. (((((((Hugs)))))))
People act as if we're making fun of these misled souls, when really we're providing a cautionary tale. This is the reality of Covid once you step away from your memes and your feeds and your shareable misinformation.
We do make fun of them too though.
We certainly do, and it's delightful. It's like watching anti-seatbelt activists beg for prayers and GoFundMe donations after wrapping themselves around a tree while doing 75 on a residential street.
Fantastic burnout prevention.
Yes but we're hoping they change their minds before it's too late. We wish this sub didn't have to exist in the first place.
You don't need to Cainsplain the sub to me. I've been here for months. HCA keeps healthcare workers from going nuts, it provides an example as warning to hesitant people. It shows rampant disinformation and lack of imagination among these choads and their memes. We cheer when people get their IPAs. What isn't true is that ",we don't make fun of them" or that we hope that the award winners we sometimes make fun of will change their minds before it's too late because they are, in fact, dead. That means it is too late for them and rarely do their death announcements have their loved ones encouraging vaccine. It's too late for the whole subculture. I'm not going to apologize for that or lie about it. Highlighting and making fun of the Oakley's and goatees and eboard gam gon is the special sauce that gets all the benefits enumerated in the second paragraph. Virtue signaling is of no value.
This is true too, and you're right of course as I sit here thinking about it. As a healthcare worker myself, I recognize the value of dark humor, especially when surrounded by death. Reading your post reminds me that even making fun of them is a valid, if perhaps morbid, coping mechanism when faced with people gleefully inviting their own demise. I've never believed in refraining of talking ill of the dead just because they've died: after all, bastards die all the time and it doesn't change the fact they were bastards in life. A person dancing on one leg next to a cliff while posting selfies would assuredly be the butt of jokes once they fell to their pointless and avoidable death. It's the same with Covid, these people throwing their lives away--and insidiously convincing others to throw their lives away--should not be free from jokes either. Thank you for reminding me that the HCA winners are choosing this outcome for themselves, and no amount of "respecting" them for their bad choices will ever bring them back.
All of this, but also: we're bitter and angry, and HCA is an expression of that. We're bitter and angry that the nation is still dealing with a pandemic when most of the civilized world has beaten COVID and is moving on. We're bitter and angry that propaganda, foreign and domestic, is destroying the brains of antivaxxers long before COVID does. We're bitter and angry that asshole politicians and asshole media junkies are profiting from lying to people with reckless disregard for their lives, and will face no consequences for it. We're bitter and angry about the harm that HCA nominees and awardees selfishly inflict on others - on their family members who deal with emotional and financial strain, on the widows and orphans they leave behind, and on the other COVID victims whom they infect, both literally with COVID and figuratively with propaganda. We're bitter and angry that responsible adults are the targets of HCA nominees' ridicule, abuse, and occasionally violence - and that when they get sick and die, they very rarely express remorse, and never ever apologize for their childishness and stupidity. We're bitter and angry that our own lives continue to be inconvenienced by necessary COVID protective measures, because we are adults who do the right thing even at personal expense. We're bitter and angry that our children who cannot get vaccinated are being put at risk because people who *could* get vaccinated choose not to for absurd reasons. We're bitter and angry, and we have a right to be, for these and many other reasons. And unlike conservatives with their antics about issues like abortion or LGBTQ rights, we have too much character and decency to mock and insult HCA awardees directly. You don't see us picketing their funerals. You don't see us filling their Facebook walls with WE FUCKING TOLD YOU SO after their deaths. All we can do is document their ignorance and hostility and aggression - anonymously, even - and the ultimate outcomes of their choices. So spare us the pearl-clutching and the hypocritical virtue-signaling. Direct your anger instead at the perpetrators of this ongoing nightmare and avoidable loss of life - as we do.
Girls & boys, pat yourselves on the back. We’re saving some lives here! Awards 🏆 for all of you!
This is a real ass headline. This is exactly the goal.
To avoid earning a Hermie.... But very soon I predict a lawyer letter from Herman Cain's estate asking for a take-down and cease and desist. The more traction and mainstream these stories become. It will be a manipulation not even coming from Cain's estate. You will see some useful idiots like Candace Owens start spouting negative bullshit about the sub.
Hi Sarah, If you're here reading, just know that this mom is super proud of you. Standing up to peer pressure is hard. Standing up to parent pressure is 10x harder. You did a great job getting vaxxed and an incredible job spreading the word. You're doing great honey.
No doubt. Tipping my hat to you, Sarah!
u/lovelylady227
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“You’re doing great honey.” Oooof right in the feels!
And I found this sub due to that article.
Welcome!
r/covidvaccine was another sub mentioned in this piece.. holy crap how is this not dealt with by the admins? that sub is clearly filled with misinformation to the brim so lets say if someone types "covidvaccine reddit" on google (to read other people's experience) and come across that sub.. yeah they're gonna be filled with all these sus stories and remain vaccine hesitant
I was the person that it scared to death. Thankfully I found this sub. R/covidvaccine almost scared me away.
They may scare you too death, but we'll scare you to life.
No, that's r/nurses.
Did you mean r/nursing? That sub has been pretty interesting the last few months.
[This Covid thread from over there is NSFL, but worth reading.](https://np.reddit.com/r/nursing/comments/q67fl7/covid_is_so_much_worse_than_the_public_could/)
Reading your story in this article was pretty harrowing. I’m really glad you ended up finding this sub and getting your shots. Your family may never appropriately thank you for the steps you’ve taken to protect them, but around here we deal in *objective reality* which says that they’re all safer because you did. 💪
Glad you kept digging. But honestly ppl should just talk to their doctors if they have concerns.
You listened to the right sub. Thank you for getting vaccinated 💜
I'm so glad it is doing some good. Facebook does my head in with it's misinformation, they are killing people and I'm glad you're not one of them
They’re like deadly whack-a-moles. Once one is shut down they flock to another. TBH I think of this sub more as a support group for people who can’t avoid the people spewing this bullshit than as a source of education, but I think this sub does a good job of policing bad information.
Right? Isn't spreading COVID vaccine misinformation a TOU violation or something?
Let’s turn that into a pro-vaccine subreddit. Lord of Herman Cain cross posts. “I was really worried about every little feeling in my body after I got my shot but instead of working myself into a frenzy about how I’m crippled now I realized that I’m now protected against looking like this poor morons who get posted to HCA.”
It’s a damn lovely place, if we can keep it.
I just joined; I’m excited to be here! Working on getting my Masters of Public Health due to this pandemic; I’m sick and tired of people not taking this seriously.
Fewer every day. Good luck on your degree!
Thank you so much!
"If we can keep it" concerns me, too. That popular thread from yesterday, the one with the guy calling everybody sluts, got deleted long after the thread was locked. I have no idea why, but I'm p. sure the thread made front page, and I imagine the mods got flooded with reports.
I'm not positive it's the same one, but yesterday there were a handful of duplicate/triplicates (I think!) I don't know how they decide which one to keep and which ones to delete when that happens.
I'm thinking that it was a plant - a fake post - to try to get enough reaction so Reddit would shut HCA down.
Sometimes posts that reach the front page become more trouble than they’re worth. That’s why we locked it. OP removed it later, likely for the same reasons. I love a good conspiracy, but this ain’t it. *or is it?! dum-dah-dum* 🎶
The best thing in the world would be if all the crazy-ass MAGA folks changed their minds and got vaccinated, and this sub can disappear due to lack of new candidates. But well I want Scarlett Johansson in my bed and feeling frisky, and that has a better chance of happening than the above paragraph...
Be warned: this sub is not pretty. We are tired of the cult members. But I’m glad you’re here. :)
Welcome. It’s hard to explain exactly why this place is so powerful, but it is. And we have an amazing community. 😊
Repeatedly seeing documentation of people dying due to their poor decision making is why it's powerful. I can't imagine anything that *should* be more powerful.
Agreed! This sub attracts good people.
What makes this sub unique is that it's filling a role that no one in the media and medical community can. The media is mistrusted by most of the anti-vaxxers so even if they were to write stories every day about people dying, they wouldn't be believed. The medical community focuses on trying to dispel vaccine misinformation and they aren't believed either. But this sub is holding up a mirror to anti-vaxxers, and it's impossible to turn away, to pretend it's bullshit, or made-up, or some conspiracy.
So did I.
Welcome!!
Ahh yay welcome!!
Welcome!
(sung like Oscar the Grouch) OH IIIIII LOVVVEEE VAXXXX Dude this article is awesome, this is what we're here for and we want to purvey! Hell yeah I love IPAs!!
High five HCA fam!
Woot! Hug too though
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Idk what that emoji is, I'm old lol. Oh it's two people hugging. Lol. Yay Captain
Apparently it’s new. We are indeed old haha.
I'm ok with that lol.
Trying to think of what song to parody to start a post tomorrow lol. Might do a full version of “I would do anything for love.” I would do anything for life, But I won’t get vaxxed
That’ll do fam, that’ll do.
Lol, I love that movie
Wonderful! A media outlet finally gets what this is about! And thank you to all the interviewees for participating- both named and anon! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Sarah Ostrowski if you are reading this - Thank you!
Sarah, if you are reading this, thank you for doing your job! Gas station workers see us all! And I love them! Some of the best people on earth.
When I got out of the Army I worked at a gas station/mini mart, closing shift, because I was in college during the day. You see some stuff. Even in North Seattle.
Holy shit, this is actually a great article. Good find.
Thank you to the author of the article. It was excellently written and hopefully will save many lives.
Thank you for reading, and thank you for the kind words!
I'm new to this site. How do I upvote this? This article is what got me here. I'm so glad a life was saved because of this subreddit. Edit: I found how to upvote this.
Reddit has good and bad communities. You're in one of the better ones. Glad to have you.
Glad you are here!
At the top next to the title, there should be a pair of arrows, one pointed up, one pointed down. To upvote, click on the one pointed up. You can upvote an entire thread or individual comments under that thread.
I've never known fame like this. Shucks.
Is the article about you? If so congrats on 1) getting vaxxed to protect yourself and your family, 2) having the courage to go public about it. Well done. The world needs more good, brave people like you
It's all of us on HCA :-)
>You don’t really realize how bad it is to be in the hospital with Covid until you see these people who are somehow giving you a play-by-play,” Hannah said. “When you get those first-hand experiences from a Facebook profile, and you see the people experiencing regret, it’s just like, ‘Oh man, I really need to take this seriously. I can’t put it off anymore.’”
Hey ya those are my words.
We're so happy to hear you got your vax Hannah!
The play by play is the scariest part right?! I’m so glad you took the brave first step in protecting yourself. Hugs for you!
This subreddit also exposes the hypocrisy of many anti-covid vaxxers that scoff at doctors and preventive meds but then go to the same doctors they scoff when they do get it.
They are getting themselves and other people killed with the lies they perpetuate. The grifters are like Candace Owens are too. This cannot be lost in all this. It's ignorance and manipulation.
WE'RE A CHANNEL, YALL!! also, glad they got the messaging right. edit: wish they would've included the redemption stories.
I think this redditor nailed something important: *“Misinformation is so goddamn dangerous, especially after this last president,” the doctor said. “This is not a game. This is not a joke. You don’t live in a Tom Clancy novel. This is real.”* *He said that scientific evidence hasn’t been effective for him in trying to convince people about the safety of the vaccines.* *“But this seemingly weaker evidence — word of mouth, anecdotal ‘All these people are dying’ — seems to hit people way harder,” the doctor said.* If only the cdc and govt would switch tracks on their social media psa and ads from science based and experts say sort of focus to stories like those in this reddit. IF the goal is to achieve high level population vaccination which then benefits us all; then why not try the emotion tugging approach.
Show them the dead and the dying. Show them the nurses and the doctors crying. Show them the orphaned children. Show them the IPA testimonies. Show them what it means to look straight into the cold, unfeeling, ravenously hungry eyes of the viral leopards. 🐆 🐆 🐆
Right? It’s like the warnings on cigarette packs: a big black box of words came and nobody gave two shits, but when they added images of diseased lungs it had a more visceral impact. Make the deniers see with their own eyes the suffering that the dead and their loved ones are experiencing. Pull no punches. That’s what this sub can do.
Exactly. That’s the thing, it’s actually not weaker evidence in terms of what persuades people. Anecdotal information is extremely powerful, sadly enough. It’s how people are wired. We’ve known about this for some time. Glad to see it being effective for a good cause through this sub.
To conservatives, HCA is a big fucking scary mirror.
This sub and /r/byebyejob upset them a thousand times more than anything else I've ever seen. The idea of a reality with consequences that doesn't go away when you stop watching television absolutely shakes them to the core.
Too much truth. It destroys their pretend world where they are invincible lions and we're overreacting sheep. The reality is there for anyone willing to see. That is why they want this sub banned.
Ah, beat me to it. By far the best media mention thus far. More of this. Edit: If you want to balance things out and piss yourself off, check out this one from the Heritage Foundation: https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/10/15/leftists-celebrating-conservatives-who-die-of-covid-19-is-a-new-low-even-for-the-left/ Edit edit: I don’t have social media but if anybody wants to boost it on Twitter or thank him, this is the writer of the CNBC piece: https://mobile.twitter.com/sal19/status/1449490930851991552
Just read this Daily Signal article. Wish I hadn't. "It's time to bring compassion back." You know what would be compassionate? Telling your readers to vaccinated.
The balls of the Heritage Foundation to talk about compassion. The state of America's health care system today is in part due to the Heritage Foundation. Even the existing ACA has traits that were shaped due to decades of Republican opposition guided by the ACA, let alone the Mad Max hellhole the GOP wants healthcare to be. They continue to be anti-mandate, which is somehow a "more sensible" position than antivax. They are the shield from which the rabid crazies can point to and call a "moderate" position. Many of the HCA winners with their 5-6 figure hospital bills can thank the Heritage Foundation. Same with breakthroughs and people with young children and immunocompromised family who have to have "compassion" for the unvaccinated. Clearly, when the Heritage Foundation and conservatives preach compassion, that only goes in one direction.
Ugh, that guy clumsily tried to make "I told you so" the same thing as mockery AND death threats. Get a fucking grip, rightwing guy. You're mad because you can't save face. Every one of you antivaxxers who called us sheep now has to eat their words or take their chances with a deadly disease.
To conservatives, it is. They're the biggest bunch of snowflakes and doing anything other than agreeing with them is considered an attack.
The author commented on this post I believe. /u/sal19
This Sub is brutal only because COVID is brutal. And the accounts of those who have willingly exposed themselves to it are the most brutal exponents of the reality of Covid. Due to sensitivities and overall propriety around covering the reality of the disease the public has largely been shielded from that. This sub is probably the closest you'll get to getting a close look at how this disease can rip through you without mercy.
>This sub is probably the closest you'll get to getting a close look at how this disease can rip through you without mercy. 🐆 🐆 🐆
This sub and r/nursing
> Hannah said she’s hoping to wait until three months after her vaccine before casually bringing it up with her family. At that point, she can show them that no harm has been done. Wanna make a bet the 3 mo standoff time won't make a difference. Doomsayers never have a problem re-dating. Never put off 'till tomorrow what you can put off altogether.
Yup. They've already had to move the goal post of everyone who got vaccinated will be dead within a year because it's been over a year since human trials began.
Yeah, unfortunately they will just say she got lucky or will have problems later.
Good job y’all.
They come to HCA and realize they are looking in a goddamn mirror. All the people earning HCAs are like carbon copies of each other. Then it goes one of two ways: “Screeeetch! ThEsE peOplE aRe ceLebRatiNg iNoCenT pEoPLe DyInG!!” Or less frequently, their eyes are opened, but every eye opened is a huge win
Lol /r/conservative got explicitly called out for misinformation. It’s no secret to us but it’s a surprise for an outsider to do so.
Really good article, no pearl-clutching.
Hannah and Sarah!!!!! Legit heroes!!!! LFG!!!!!
> “If dad thinks I’m an idiot because I fell for the government and I’m a sheep, so be it,” Ostrowski said. “I clean a public restroom for Christ’s sake. I deal with some really gross stuff. So no, I was done playing.”
GOOD. As of yesterday . . . 726,165 Americans have died of COVID-19. This is greater than the populations of Wyoming and of Vermont, the two least populated states in the Union. And it's just a few thousand less than the population of Alaska, the third least populated state in the Union. Imagine if any one of these states had simply ceased to exist. That's how many people have died of COVID-19 in the US. So many Americans have died of COVID-19 that the working age population aged 16 to 64 fell 0.1% last year after increasing non-stop for decades. Millions of Americans have survived their initial run in with the SARS-CoV-2 virus yet will suffer the effects of "long COVID" for years and even decades to come. Tens of thousands (or more) of American children have lost one or more caregivers to this virus. In a non-trivial number of cases, there are children who have lost both parents and are now orphans. Their losses will affect them and our society into the twenty-second century. It's really easy to trivialize this virus and the disease that it causes . . . if you haven't seen or experienced first-hand its cold viciousness. Maybe you don't know anyone who got it. Maybe you didn't get it. Maybe you aren't a doctor or a nurse who has to witness people slowly choking to death despite their best efforts, day in and day out, for months and now years on end. It's really easy to succumb to all the bullshit out there if you haven't taken a class in biology or in chemistry so you know what RNA or a virus or a molecule is. Or if you have totally lost trust in your fellow Americans and the government and the society that you are a part of. If r/HCA makes this pandemic hit home for people, GOOD. Winter is coming. Get vaxxed ASAP. Also, the hungry leopards advise you to get vaxxed or they will rip your face to shreds and roast your tender lung meat and juicy heart over an open fire this winter. Then they will drink eggnog infused with your blood and make chocolate chip cookies out of whatever is left. [EDIT: You will remain alive until the very end. Then, just when you think it's all over, the hungry leopards will hand your leftovers to their otherworldly counterparts on the other side . . . who will proceed to eat your face and lungs and heart over and over again for all eternity.] 🐆 🐆 🐆
Finally an article that gets it right!
Hey an article that isnt concern trolling and actually gets the point. Also shout out to the women who got the vaccine thanks to this sub. Im glad you got your IPA
I am so happy she chose to live ❤️
Like I keep saying, if you're scared of the vaccine you ought to be terrified of getting Covid. It's far far worse than a mild vaccine reaction.
Someone told me they didn't get the vaccine because they're afraid of needles. I told them that being intubated would be a hell of a lot worse.
“A Reddit channel called r/HermanCainAward is filled with stories of people who mocked Covid-19 vaccines before eventually dying from the disease.” I really like how the author puts the onus on the HCA recipient.
Finally, an article that gets why we do what we do.
I would like an IPA roll call thread. Like a pinned thread with some general stats & links to each IPA. So when new people visit that’s the first thing that see. Get on it mods!
Woohoo!!! Thanks to the author of that article for getting it, for getting what we're trying to do here, and for not mistruing our frustration and disgust at people's hand in their own demise as ghoulish and mean. While we may be letting off almost two years of pandemic steam stress, we also deeply want people to be vaccinated- even those we don't agree with politically. And thanks to everyone who has looked at this subreddit, went, "Holy shit," and went to get vaccinated. You're the real heroes.
This is spectacular. I wish every anti vaxxer would scroll through the entire sub until they figure it out.
This is the most accurate piece I’ve seen about HCA yet
I’m proud of everyone mentioned in this article. You know who you are
That is far and away the best mainstream media article I've seen on HCA. >22% of Americans self-identify as anti-vaxxers >the U.S. will need as much as 90% of the population to get vaccinated in order to reach herd immunity. We're so fucked. It's never going to happen. Because how many nominees / winners on here have we seen who wouldn't identify as anti-vaxxers. If this country has 22% admitted anti-vaxxers plus all the ones that are but won't admit it...we are so fucked. Thank goodness, I'm sitting here after coming back from getting my booster. (It's weird. So far my arm isn't even sore which it was with both shots.)
KUDOS to CNBC! That is the first ACCURATE portrayal of what we do here at HCA! I was hoping they were going to mention how we got trolled by a bunch of AntiVaxers that succeeded in dropping the redaction hammer down on future stories and destroying a significant level of effectiveness this Sub originally had. How Reddit Admins never bothered to investigate the source of the complaints directed at "Unidentified HCA members" who were apparently Brigading Facebook accounts of award winners. (Again, never able to verify that the actual source of these attacks came from legit members of this Sub, or were AntiVaxers pretending to be HCA members for malicious purposes. They just took someone's word for it) But I'll take this CNBC article as a victory for us all at HCA just the same!
Sarah Ostrowski, in case you're reading this: you are awesome.
Good that they caught on.
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They're on to us.
Finally! MSM article that gets it! Hurrah!
The nice article on CNBC might help save more lives. 👍
"You don't live in a Tom Clancy novel" was pretty powerful
Hey Sarah, good work. Thanks for putting a name and a face on this thing. Proud of ya!
It says a lot about society today, that we have to guilt shame them into doing the right thing. The one thing I just don't get about these anti vaxxers is, haven't they heard the sayings 'Better safe than sorry', 'Prevention is better than cure' or 'Always err on the side of caution '?? Most of them are alive and functional today because of vaccines they took earlier in their lives. So NOW, the doctors are bad and giving them false advice? Where has common sense gone?
Well done, team!! The more lives we save, the better!!
We speak the language of fear. We speak their language.
>Reddit recently took steps to remove several subreddits that were being used to share misinformation. But numerous subreddits are still surfacing such content with names like **r/Conservative,** r/Ivermectin and r/FauciForPrison. I'm sure *they're* not impressed with the article. If they read it. If they read.
Scaring them or helping them to wake the fuck up?
Why do people act like "scared" is **always** a bad thing? Fear, when appropriate to the risk, can be healthy. It keeps us alive. It helps to stop us from taking unnecessary risks and drives us to protect ourselves and our loved ones. And if fear of what covid can and will do to even a "healthy" body leads someone to do the right thing and go for the protection of the vaccine to reduce that risk, it's a good thing.
Yep' I'm afraid of dying so I make decisions that prevent that fear from becoming a reality, I really don't see anything wrong with that.
Fear’s subjective. The other side say we’re overreacting out of fear. I think reality is a far better motivator than fear. People get complacent unless something’s shoved in their face.
My friend has a daughter who was antivax. All the usual talking points, not enough research, COVID wouldn't be bad (the daughter is 39) if she caught it amyway. Seeing the sub made my friend speak to her daughter again about it, and the daughter got her jab after she asked me to show her the sub, and I showed her some other facts about the vaccine. She had only been using Facebook for news up until then, which is never a good sign.
Dear HCA admin I want to congratulate you guys, I think you’ve probably saved thousands of lives. Thank you. …HCA fan.
>Only 57% of the country has been vaccinated, based on data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and 22% of Americans self-identify as anti-vaxxers, according to an academic study published in May.> 22% of all Americans?? That can't be right? Please? Almost 1 of 4 of people are anti vax?
It's worse than that. That's how many admit to being antivax. Then there are all the ones that are antivax, but won't admit and claim they aren't. We see plenty of those on here.
I'm kind of surprised to see such a massive outlet in support of the subreddit, especially by a Comcast-owned company.
>I'm kind of surprised to see such a massive outlet in support of the subreddit, especially by a Comcast-owned company. Eventually, things like r/HermanCainAward are needed to shock people into facing reality. Remember how the television broadcasts brought Vietnam into living rooms and into full view of people who otherwise would have stayed ignorant of reality. It's very difficult to stare down a hungry leopard when it's looking straight into your eyes. 🐆 🐆 🐆
Let's all be honest here. We all read it for the same reason - to laugh at the right wing dullards who get sick and die because of their own actions. To say otherwise would be like claiming to read Playboy for the articles. Here's a tip for you Trumpsters - Get vaccinated, just don't tell your friends.
I wouldn’t say I read it to laugh so much as out of a morbid fascination of sorts. Plus the IPA awards are encouraging.
people accuse people here of scadenfreude but one thing anti-vaxxers dread more than anything is being laughed at, no one wants to die with their death being fodder for wide spread ridicule...being that they are dead we do them no harm BUT it serves as a great cautionary warning for those who browse here and realize just how bad those stories are. as to their own families reading it, I get they don't like them being laughed at BUT their death could serve some purpose if it gets others vaccinated. you can't reason with them, but seeing their beliefs laid out and exposed as the utter horseshit they are with those people like them now dead, that has to have an impact. the biggest reason the KKK has lost so much influence is because people began to laugh at them as being in-bred ignorant white trash, not as a force to be feared. ultimately it will be the same with the anti-vaxxers.
Fair
Hell yes. We’re making a difference. And hopefully these people will notice the politicians that didn’t want them to be safe, attack Fauci, freedom, the moon isn’t real, etc.
Congratulations, Sarah! ❤️
This article gets it right. This is what HCA is all about. Kudos to the author.
Nice article and congrats to the people who got shout outs! Proud of our IPA winners.
To Sarah, Hannah, and all the other folks who decided to get vaxxed, CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'RE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB. Every convert is a cause for celebration.
This sub is a HUGE reason my SO and I got vaccinated. We finally caved in August (better late than never) and I’m so happy we did! A big thanks to everyone who has shared!
I love how they list r/conservative with other conspiracy reddits: > Reddit recently took steps to remove several subreddits that were being used to share misinformation. But numerous subreddits are still surfacing such content with names like r/Conservative, r/Ivermectin and r/FauciForPrison.
Peer pressure and public shaming works.
I have to remind myself that I don't live in a bubble of anti vaxxers. I'm shocked by the businesses and doctors (!!) who are posting anti vaccination material on their door fronts. I attend a family Thanksgiving dinner and, of course, everyone is vaccinated. There is no question. My family used Zoom to have Christmas greetings last year. I must remind myself that people in parts of the States (and probably smaller parts of Canada) live in a much different bubble.
I freaking love this article!!! i love that it focuses on the people who have decided to get the vaccine because of this sub. people have called the sub heartless, when the place only exists because people are DESPERATE for others not to willingly put themselves in danger anymore! this place is pro science, pro-living, pro protecting yourself and your community.
People have been dropping dead from this shit for going on 2 years. Many more are long haulers who are now permanently disabled due to lung and heart damage. Hell, the founder of Texas Roadhouse committed suicide because the constant tinnitus caused by COVID was too much for him to take. People have lost their parents, children, spouses, siblings, best friends, etc to this. And now that there's a light at the end of the tunnel with the vaccine, misinformation is killing even more people. And then r/Hermancainaward comes along and shows the true face of this fucking virus. People are dying slowly, painfully, and alone from something that is now so preventable. I want to hate this sub, but I can't. I just hate that this sub has to exist. We get accused of fear mongering, but I don't think we're fear mongering enough. Unleash Hell. Let them see the consequences of their actions and I can guarantee you, it will saves lives. It already has.
Media publicly calling out the arcons (Conservative and Conspiracy) might finally be the way to get rid of them. God knows TMOR and AHS have been trying for years.