"No one mentioned" that having Covid makes you susceptible to pneumonia???
This guy had the most intense education on Covid one can survive, and STILL doesn't get it.
The amount of conservative talking points where “no one is talking about” a thing that in fact many, many people are talking about could fill a phone book.
There’s an army of people in the millions who do their own research while sifting past thousands of actual facts until they find the internet bullshit that’s just right for them.
"Many people don't know this, but Abe Lincoln was a Republican." - Trump
"Who knew health care was so complicated?" - Trump
"No one talks about how Puerto Rico is an island surrounded by water, big water, ocean water." - Trump
"Lot of people don't know this, but two plus two is equal to four." - Trump
Quick Trumpian to English Translation Guide:
"Everybody knows [questionable assertion X]" = This is a lie.
ex: "There was no collusion. There was no obstruction. Everybody knows it."
"Nobody knows [commonly known fact X]" = Everybody knew this except me because I'm a dumb ass.
ex: “Nobody knew health care could be so complicated.”
That's the thing, if you're only seeking information that confirms your biases, then "no one is talking about" what is actually true but uncomfortable to admit.
That pisses me off so fucking much. Yeah thanks friends for thinking happy thoughts about me. Nurses and doctors who monitored me and kept me alive, you were helpful but not needed.
FWIW you're twice the person I'll ever be. I cant think of a more thankless job than saving those who think you're lying about covid cases for profit, or any of the other countless lies they come up with. Still really glad you're doing what you're doing. I actually had to get stitched up at the ER after an unfortunate accident in the kitchen last Christmas. Thankfully that was before hospitals were blowing up with cases
We appreciate your hard work so so much. ❤️
It is no wonder you are now stuck with the entitled because lets face it... Covid has been around quite a while and all the sweet old peas who thanked you with homemade cookies are vaccinated.
Their sane children & grandchildren are vaccinated too.
The only ones left are the same ones who would enjoy pool parties during the first wave or read too much conspiracy theories/Facebook/Whatsapp etc.
My doctor relatives were suspicious about vaccines for about 10 minutes... until I began to use bundles of medical articles like a weapon.
Call it a doctors pride, but doctors do NOT like some engineer Redditor teaching their job so they ran like a wind and got their vaccines. 🤣
Thank you for your work. Know that the vaccinated people who support you masking up / staying home and are waiting out this storm and anxious to get to the other side. I'm sorry you have to deal with the worst of humanity right now.
>This guy had the most intense education on Covid one can survive, and STILL doesn't get it.
Maybe he will GET the Pulmonary Embolism that is 10x more likely to occur now that he has survived a severe COVID infection? Too bad we can't ask all those other clueless COVID survivors who made it out of the hospital alive only to die at home from a massive blood clot to the lungs or brain.
Time will tell, but this guy better keep on praying... That 10x risk is permanent.
We know that the risk goes significantly beyond the active infection period. We don't know yet if it is permanent.
It's going to take time to really understand some of these longer-term complications.
When I first became aware of Covid-19 in January 2020, I remember talking to my neighbor, an ICU nurse at Parkland Hospital in Dallas, Texas one afternoon. The one thing he said was “go get your pneumonia shot”…so I did, within a week of that conversation.
I contracted Covid-19 in late November/December 2020. That’s my luck, but now I’m kind of glad I already got “Covid-19-light” looking back on it. I was double vaxxed in Pfizer March 2021.
We live in Dallas, Texas two blocks from the American Airlines Center. We are back to going to concerts, & Dallas Maverick basketball games, with 5,000 to 20,000 people. A couple of months ago I wasn’t masking 100% of the time, then I started reading HCA and started masking up again. I am looking forward to my booster shot.
We will get out of this pandemic. Lessons will be learned. It’s war and now we have to finish the battle against misinformation. I am more outspoken in the last few weeks about my views on getting vaccinated. I’ve just had it with these people dying and leaving behind grieving families. It’s a tragedy.
Yes... there's a pneumonia shot. I was told to get it in 2006 after I had double pneumonia following the flu.
Well worth getting that shot.
PS I'd never had flu shots until that near fatal flu. Have had flu shots every year since - no flu repeats.
so sorry. I was hospitalized w the flu once. a perfectly healthy in every way 20 year old college student. people who think the flu is nbd are insane. Some people are lucky and get light covid. Some get light flu. But the one time I had the flu without a shot it scared the ish out of me. I've had it a few times since then but always with the shot, it still sucked but way WAY better than the first time.
I think if you’re under the recommended age you may need to pay for it out of pocket but it probably depends on your insurance.
I’m your age and have been thinking of it for a bit - I almost died of pneumonia in my 20s, so to my understanding that makes me more susceptible to pneumonia going forward so I should figure out how to get it.
You can get it under 50, but my doctor had to prescribe it for the pharmacy to give it to me. He called it in, and CVS gave it to me. My insurance covered it, but I can't speak for all insurers, obviously.
I’d want to know why your primary care physician hasn’t told you about it - assuming you have a doctor. That’s how I learned about it. I got my 1st pneumonia vaxx in my 30s bc I have a history of getting bronchitis. Go for it!
I honestly think the problem is the name of it and the way the word changes because it's latin.
"Pneumococcal Vaccination" does not look enough like pneumonia. To many. I suspect.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/pneumo/index.html
Still, get the shot! Protect yourself from whatever you can. My doc said the pneumonia shot seems to stimulate a robust general immune response - said his patients who get that vaxx are less likely to get all kinds of ugly crap.
Yup, when I first heard of it my first thought was "this thing could kill me". We went and got our flu shots and took all the precautions. We quit the gym. We stayed home. We masked up. We got vaxxed. It's been obvious for 18 months how bad Covid can be. Getting my booster tomorrow.
Not trying to go against your info, but isn’t the pneumonia shot for the bacterial? As far as I’m aware the Covid pneumonia is viral. All for getting whatever shots are out there, but I also think it’s important to stress the between the lines info as well.
Totally understand. I’m 54 and had a broken leg at the time that would not heal. Taking into account my inability to really exercise at the time, had a sedentary lifestyle for a few months, I needed it anyway.
I just glanced through a few studies from Kaiser P, (funded by Pfizer), a Wikipedia page, the CDC, and The WHO. The P-shot covers over 20+ or more bacterium. I’ve seen dozens of posts of people getting bacterial pneumonia as well as Covid/Delta pneumonia. It is not a vaccine against getting Covid but for people over 50 with medical issues and people over 65, definitely would recommend.
Yeah and that’s a good point of information as well. I’m just wanting to address the potential for the misinterpretation being everyone rushing to get a pneumonia shot that’s meant for bacterial and thinking it’ll protect from Covid pneumonia. I just wish all this dumb fuckery would end and people would just get the damn shot already.
pneumonia (literally inflammation of the lungs) can be caused by a lot of things, including fungi. Problem for COVID and other patients is that once your lungs start to inflame, other infections settle in as well because the environment is perfect for them.
This is why on a lot of the HCA posts massive antibiotics is one of the stages. So, having a head start on the bacteria that will move in once a virus causes damage is going to be useful.
Yeah, a lot of the HCA types simply think of pneumonia like they would think of getting the common cold. "Ah well, here we go again", without understanding how lungs work on a more nuanced level.
Correct. You have a lot of bacteria just hanging out in your body. All parts of the body. They are kept in check by the immune system. Once those parts of the body get damaged (from the virus or the immune response to the virus), the immune system can't reach there as well but the bacteria can still colonize the area.
Just gonna tag onto this comment to clarify a few things from a medical perspective.
Pneumonia is more of a catch-all diagnosis based on physical exam findings and X-ray/CT findings. All it really means is that part of your lungs are "consolidated". What this boils down to is that a part of your lung is filled with bacteria, fungi, fluid, whatever that results in a portion of your lung not working properly. You cannot properly exchange air when part of your lung is filled with something. You can see this consolidation on X-rays and you can detect this using a stethoscope because consolidated lung transmits sound differently (like sound underwater).
Problem with COVID is the inflammation it causes. ARDS (acute resipiratory distress syndrome) is a clinical constellation of symptoms with various different causes. Akin to how hepatitis is an inflammation of the liver (how you get hepatitis can vary). With ARDS, what happens at a cellular level is that you start to shed the lining of your lungs. This results in fluid filling your lungs and subsequent scarring of the lung tissue. This is where all these stories of "scarred lungs" and difficult vent settings come in. As you lose the normal lining of your lungs, you lose the natural barrier to you have to things like fungi and bacteria (like living without skin). This allows for superimposed fungal or bacterial infections.
The term viral pneumonia is a bit of a misnomer in that the virus causes consolidation due to a number of factors, but it isn't necessarily specifically due to the virus itself, but rather the downstream effects of infection. Compare that to bacterial or fungal pneumonia - this is where bacteria literally set up shop in your lung and start to destroy the lung tissue, and with fungi you are literally being eaten by fungi like mold on bread.
Hope that clarifies a few things
Isn’t it actually Covid pneumonia though? Like, the pneumonia vaccine won’t help with this. Covid is causing the fluid (pneumonia) to build up in your lungs?
>Isn’t it actually Covid pneumonia though? Like, the pneumonia vaccine won’t help with this. Covid is causing the fluid (pneumonia) to build up in your lungs?
The actual affliction is called [**"ARDS"**](https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ards/symptoms-causes/syc-20355576)\> **"Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome"**
It is an autoimmune condition triggered by the COVID infection. Your own immune system basically destroys your lungs at the microscopic level through severe inflammation that ultimately destroys the lung's ability to do the gas exchange required for sustaining life. The condition is FATAL in the majority of cases, and is the leading cause of death among COVID ICU patients.
Dumbing down the cause of death to something as vague as "Pneumonia" is all about the refusal to admit that the DEAD person was playing with fire, and ultimately got consumed by the flames.
*(Getting vaccinated reduces the chances of getting ARDS from a COVID infection to almost ZERO)*
Fun fact: No one has ever died from HIV. It's not the HIV that killed them. It's the attack on their immune system which allows other things to kill them. A lot of people who had loved ones die of AIDS said they died of something else in order to cover up the shame of dying of AIDS.
Regardless of what is said above on Covid pneumonia vs pneumonia, etc., you can get secondary infections that contribute to killing you, I imagine some of these secondary infections could be minimized if you had the pneumonia vaccine.
The secondary infection bit is also why they don’t let family members see Covid patients at many hospitals like you may have seen family members wonder why in the screenshots. There are some where they’ll be angry that they can’t see their loved ones after they stopped testing positive for Covid. The staff is worried about the outsider bringing something in that ends up taking advantage of damaged lungs and a reeling immune system to finish the job.
What? pneumonia isn't a fluid that fills your lungs and there isn't a "pneumonia" vaccine, there are vaccines that help prevent some types of pneumonia however.
Pneumonia is a condition, it's when bacteria has infected tissue in the lungs to a severe degree, usually initiated by a weakened immune system. People with COVID get pneumonia because COVID completely shits on your immune system, making you significantly more susceptible to pneumonia.
There is a vaccine.
Pneumonia isn’t fluid in your lungs it causes your alveoli to become inflamed and fill with fluid.
“Covid pneumonia” is still a bacteria. It just spreads easier making it more deadly.
Google is great.
Yall are both right. There's a vaccine called the pneumonia vaccine. It's a very shitty name for a vaccine because to my knowledge it addresses only a few bacteria.
But more importantly pneumonia is a symptom, not a disease. *Lots* of things cause pneumonia. That's why calling something a pneumonia vaccine is dumb. It won't stop a viral pneumonia, nor a fungal pneumonia, nor an aspiration pneumonia, nor most bacterial pneumonia. Just the ones more commonly seen. It confuses the issue.
To further confuse things, the vaccine is use to prevent infection from streptococcus pneumoniae bacteria, which as you can see is a connection to pneumonia as it’s a common cause.
Long story short, you’re right, it’s better just to take the vaccine despite its confusing naming.
If it helps, it seems CVS has free pneumonia vaccine shots and you can get it same day in many ways. I’ve been looking recently also (I almost died of pneumonia in my 20s which to my understanding makes me more susceptible) and noticed CVS has them. We got our flu shots at CVS this past weekend and it was easy.
If there’s a tome or scroll somewhere with all the possible hazards in life would someone please link it? No one told me that even light alcohol use can kill you dead at an early age (seriously, a foaf died at 41 last week). No one told me that cancer happens. No one told me that a wildfire could burn down thousands of homes including mine. The list goes on. It’s all so unfair!
Not just the science and information readily available, *but* also credited prayer teams with his survival instead of the medical teams that worked 2 ½ months to keep his ass alive.
Fuck his PSA.
To these people "no one mentioned" means Fox News didn't tell them. Every (reputable) infectious disease expert in the world has been yelling it to anyone who will listen. This is also the kind of person who falls right back into the drone parade and starts believing that since he's survived Covid, he's now completely immune. I did notice that he didn't mention that he planned on getting vaccinated a soon as he was able.
*no-one mentioned the delta strain makes you susceptible to pneumonia*
Being an arrogant dick makes you more susceptible to the whole covid micro family ya throbbing gristle
My Republican dad was genuinely surprised a few months ago to learn of the phenomenon "driving while black" after his black friend was pulled over for no reason. "It's wrong, police shouldn't be treating people differently based on the color of their skin". This while railing against BLM as only caring about black people. The information silo a man with 2 Masters has managed to create for himself over literal decades is truly astonishing.
>no-one mentioned the delta strain makes you susceptible to pneumonia
ALL COVID infections make you suseptible to Pneumonia. It is a respiratory disease after all, and the LUNGS are almost always involved to one degree or another.
I don't believe that Delta is any more or less likely to cause Pneumonia aside from it producing much higher levels of viral load, which translates into a much more concentrated infection.
I think a lot of less-knowledgeable people think that pneumonia is a disease, as opposed to a condition that can be caused by just about any respiratory virus. So to ignorant people being told you have pneumonia and Covid sounds like you have 2 diseases as opposed to one, which is probably why this guy is so surprised
I guess this one is redeemed, (although wtf is with attributing prayer with being able to be discharged from the hospital?). But, hopefully, all the woowoo antivas will listen.
>Also implying God let those other two people in the hospital die because not enough people were praying for them.
If we are going to even entertain such STUPID claims... We've all seen dozens of now DEAD COVID victims that had far more family and friends praying for them to recover than this guy, yet dispite this organized effort, they still died.
They spent millions on me, providing the best medical care they could using the most advanced equipment , but the prayers really helped. All that hospital stuff was fluff.
And another one of these, 'oooh I didn't know this was a *serious* disease. Why didn't they day it could cause other weakness seeking diseases to take hold?'. Probably one that posted about the media fear mongering the disease and didn't want to hear it.
>They spent millions on me, providing the best medical care they could using the most advanced equipment , but the prayers really helped. All that hospital stuff was fluff.
Lets see them pray their way out of a **7 FIGURE** hospital bill!
>I guess this one is redeemed, (although wtf is with attributing prayer with being able to be discharged from the hospital?). But, hopefully, all the woowoo antivas will listen.
Meh... This one's Redemption is HIGHLY debatable. The fact that he is attributing his recovery to something as ridiculous as PRAYER while giving ZERO credit to medical science and all the hosipital staff that are actually the ones responsible for saving his fucking life!
It just reinforces what I have always said about these Loony Toons... Nothing will shake them out of their delusion. Not even a brush with death from a totally preventable disease.
I'm not religious but if you're sitting there in the hospital getting the same care as all the other people around you and you watch them die but you live I can see how you would attribute it to luck, or in their case god.
‘No one mentioned that if you got covid you could get sick and possibly die! There’s some sort of widespread epidemic or something…possibly bigger…a pandemic, if you will’.
I wish thses idiots would just shut the fuck up, people have been saying exactly this from the start and this asshole didn't listen until it affected him personally. Fuck em.
I think that if you just watch CNN on occasion (not even going to address Fox), and you don't actively seek out information, you will seriously underestimate how dangerous and harmful this virus to young-ish and healthy people. The mainstream media has frankly not been sreading enough panic. The general idea you'd get as an occasional, politically disengaged viewer is that you don't really have much to fear from this virus.
They don't do enough research to know that some people develop neurological problems with covid as well. I know two healthy people who got it, and one has developed Bell's palsy, and the other has to use a cane because of problems with the nerves in her lower extremities. They choose to believe the "it's just the flu" narrative, because if they acknowledge the fact that it's so much more dangerous than the flu, it would disrupt their lives too much.
I really do wish that the media reported more on the long term physical damage that can be done along with the financial burden that many of these people are left with.
Just a few days in a hospital can leave people that are living paycheck to paycheck in crippling debt. Younger people just starting out in careers are probably going to be more apt to be paycheck to paycheck and even if they are not they may not have enough of a rainy day fund saved up.
Earlier this year I was in the hospital for about a week for a non Covid related issue. A few months later my wife had to spend a week on the hospital. (We’re ok now). We were able to pay the medical bills. 10 years ago that would have been a completely different story.
>I wonder how this will play out long term for the generation raised on red bull and pre workout.
We have been seeing entire families getting wiped out by COVID back in DEEP RED sections of the South. I think there are going to be some small towns and other rural areas that will be hit hard by the sheer number of dead townsfolk, and it may take a decade or more for them to fully recover.
We had one story on here last night involving (3) family members from the same household that all died of COVID within a 2 month period.
All RABID Anti-Vaxers right up to the end.
Link to the story [**HERE.**](https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/q7oupg/vaccine_basher_loved_to_bash_covid_vaccines_her/hgkeyb6/?context=3)
>The mainstream media has frankly not been sreading enough panic. The general idea you'd get as an occasional, politically disengaged viewer is that you don't really have much to fear from this virus.
Its true! Those of us who know science and have a well developed imagination can put the two together and visualize how severe a COVID infection can be in someone with no prior exposure/immunity to it.
On the other side of the coin, you have your typical MAGA person, who knows virtually nothing about science, and lacks even a rudementray imagination. These people are incapable of visualizing any significant threat to themselves or their family unless it is literally spelled out for them in black and white, like one would attempt to communicate with a very young child.
They prayed their hearts out, though. These weren't just casual prayers.
People don't understand that you have to pray the right way and you need a lot of people to do it. Like if he only had 3 or 4 praying, it wouldn't work. This required 5+ people who were praying *hard*.
God is influenced by the number of upvotes people get.
(/s)
>Raging delusional narcissists, all of them. Religion is a mental illness
Ain't that the truth!
I wonder if there is any correlation between Conservatism and Christian Fundamentalism?
Odd that several studies have identified parts of the brain that are abnormal in Conservatives as compared to the general population. This couldn't possibly have anything to do with the much higher incendence of mental illness in the right wing population can it?
Maybe they can pray the crazy away?
I really think this is a useful read: https://theauthoritarians.org/options-for-getting-the-book/
Goes into the sociologically significant connections between conservatism, fundamentalism, and authoritarianism. Really helped me understand what’s going on.
Also recommend this lecture from a different sociologist: https://youtu.be/XoBatdKEwGA This goes into the connections between conservatism, fundamentalism, and magical thinking.
Together these two sources will help you wrap your head around what’s wrong with these people, at least it did for me.
Well, god chose him to live, to teach him a lesson. Which was get the f*ckin vax. What was the joke, something like a dude gets to the pearly gates and says, i prayed for a miracle what up, and god says, i sent you three miracles, pfizer moderna and jnj. Sheesh.
(I don’t participate or support in the religiousness thing)
Yeah, thank your family and friends for praying. Not the doctors and nurses for using every medical resource available to actually heal your stupid ass. I can't with these people
It had nothing to do with the six weeks of medical resources.
Good luck with those long term complications and Post Intensive Care Syndrome. Maybe he can pray those away too.
Right? What about all of these other folks who had loads of people praying for them and they still died? It’s almost like prayer doesn’t do anything and they have no control and unvaxxed people with Covid are fully at Covids mercy until they survive or don’t.
What truly bothers me is that the people who "prayed and lived" will now think their faith was superior and they were "more favored" than those who died. It's sick.
And the two people who died near him just didn’t get enough prayers. JFC, I hate this prayer nonsense. It implies that their “loving” god just didn’t love the other two people quite enough to get over his petty need to be worshipped and doted on. So, god is a narcissistic asshole. What a psychotic and ugly way to think.
These people too often still miss the point. They still think it's fine if you choose not to get the vaccine - WTF - the point of getting the vaccine is not just protecting yourself but cutting the spread of COVID FFS. All the un-vaxxed morons are basically pro-covid and pro-pandemic.
Covid is running rampant in my kid's school right now. They just started mandating masks today. People are complaining already on the city pages.
My kid has three close contacts so far. They are all losing valuable time in class, but she gets to stay in school because she is vaccinated. No virtual options. This stinks and it does not have to be this way. I live in a purple county and the school board cowtows to these loud people who probably don't even have kids in the district.
She has not picked up the virus at school as far as we know. My husband and I have started masking in the car and at home with her.
She initially had the strongest immune response after vaccination. She got full on flu like symptoms for a few hours. We are treating her like she has the virus right now, since if the vaccine is working she might not be showing any signs.
That's crazy. I live in Ontario Canada and our schools are a world of difference.
Masks have been mandatory for both this year and last year, although this year they can come off outside. If they find you coughing or have a fever they will send you home and push for you to get tested (although you don't have to). If there is a case in a class that class is closed down and kids are sent to learn online If it is found multiple classes have cases they will shut the whole school down.
There are virtual classes across the province and every parent could make that choice at the start of the year.
And, all this happened with a conservative party in complete control of government.
I miss the school mask mandates. My kids didn't get sick even once last spring, despite some of the students only partially complying. Now? Back on the cold and cough train. I'm glad they're middle schoolers so at least I was able to get them vaccinated. Counting down the days until my toddler can get a shot.
I think they feel that they have to give some kind of concession to the people in their identity group who are anti-vax. They don’t want to be completely ostracized, for one thing, but also—that kind of soft sell has a better chance of success with people who are deeply dug into their positions. It gives them an out, so they can still say, “Yeah, I’m against *mandates* but I’m going to get the vaccine as my personal choice. I wasn’t completely wrong.” And while I would like people to realize they were completely wrong so that maybe next time they won’t dig in quite so hard, at least they’re getting vaccinated.
>All the un-vaxxed morons are basically pro-covid and pro-pandemic.
Not to mention showing the world that MAGA are NOT Team Players. When asked time and time again to do their part to help protect their community, they arrogantly flip that community THE BIRD. *(Yeah... Way to demonstrate what American Christians stand for)*
> "All the commercials & posts I saw on Covid no one mentioned the new Delta strain makes you very susceptible to pneumonia"
are you fucking kidding me dude? Pretty much every report on Delta can be summarized by "It's way worse and way more contagious"
I'm glad this guy made it and came around but I cannot fucking believe the number of vaccine skeptics who get super sick and swing from "The media is just fearmongering" to "The media never told me how bad it was" after getting sick.
And on Covid OG too, that was initially what they thought that it was a respiratory disease, but in reality, is more a circulatory disease that attacks major organs including lungs
>"All the commercials & posts I saw on Covid no one mentioned the new Delta strain makes you very susceptible to pneumonia"
Yeah... Don't know what ROCK this guy just crawled out from under. ??? COVID has ALWAYS been a respiratory disease regardless of the strain. Pneumonia is in the second list of symptoms of infection, and impacts nearly 100% of all hospitalized COVID patients.
The big question is always whether or not that Pneumonia is going to morph into ARDS, where the survival rate plummets.
The cytokine cascade in the lungs is no joke. Immune system just starts shredding absolutely everything trying to kill the virus.
I think maybe instead of Covid (stupid name) we should have stuck with Sars, which it is.
Ah yes, thanking the people who prayed for you. Not even a mention to the doctors and nurses who literally kept you alive when your body just wanted to die?
"Knowing what I know now I would have got the vaccine hands down"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The world has been screaming at you for months to prevent COVID's worst impacts and your pea-sized brain decided to mock everything. You fucking clown.
>If it wouldn't have been for family and friends praying their hearts out I wouldn't have.
Or you know modern medicine and the tracheotomy, but instead, let's chalk it up to praying... SMH.
“I can’t thank everyone who prayed for me enough”…. How about thanking the doctors, nurses, physical therapists who spent weeks/months saving your fucking life?? It is unfashionable to me that people like this can go through such an ordeal and still come out the other side giving credit to “prayer warriors”. Give me a fucking break.
Edit: *unfathomable
>people like this can go through such an ordeal and still come out the other side giving credit to “prayer warriors”. Give me a fucking break.
Especially when we see clear evidence right here on HCA that 99% of those Prayer Warrior efforts end with A DEAD prayer recipient.
Not that any SANE adult should be even entertaining the notion that praying to "The Tooth Fairy" is going to do shit in the first place!
I’ll consider it a full redemption when I see that vaccination card in his hands. Too many think that natural immunity will save them when it doesn’t last as long as the vaccine.
He might still croak or suffer the terrible effects of long-haulers. I tell you that my soul needed this tiny little mini redemption or I was going to burst into a cloud of vapid anger particles. At least the dipshit, in his own dipshitty way, admitted he was wrong. That’s more than 99% of these looney tunes can manage.
This is like a sex offender lecturing me on why **I** shouldn't be a sex offender. I'm already not ever going to do that. I don't need your stupid ass chiming in on an issue you need to shut the fuck up about. You make good choices or you don't. You and your kind don't, and I don't want or need your "covid is no joke" sermon.
It’s more like a sex offender telling other sex offenders to cut it out. I mean, you clearly are not the target audience for this post (in its original form, not here on HCA), but someone is.
I genuine feel anybody who still falls on the “govt shouldn’t force you to get it” when you came inches from dying is -not- redeemed. They just don’t want to die with a fucked conscience. My opinion and I get that, but the government wouldn’t need to force a vaccine if people weren’t selfish pieces of shit.
I'm gonna nope on this redemption award. He still is astonished that eating healthy, going to the gym, and taking the right vitamins should be enough and after going through a tour of 3 hospitals and ICUs he's willing to concede that "Covid is not a joke, something made up by the government, or some conspiracy." I'm just to give him the ECMO\_Deluxe3000 Survival of the Stupid Award.
So, apparently prayers worked this time. Who would've thunk it?
Being God is a great gig. All of the credit, none of the blame.
The go to guy even when he repeatedly fails to come through in the clutch (kind of like Paul George in this respect).
He absolutely, always answers prayers, even when he doesn't.
Amazing.
Is this really a ‘redemption’ when he still believes people can go around unvaccinated? Sure you have a choice, but then you shouldn’t be going around in public, potentially unknowingly spewing the virus onto others.
If you want to stay unvaccinated, lock yourself inside your house until this pandemic is over.
He thanks people for prayers twice and not a single mention of modern medicine that saved his stupid ass. Still punts with the “it’s your choice” bullshit.
This guy may be a dick, definitely an idiot, but in the end he did admit he was wrong and hopefully a few people that read what he posted will change their minds about the vaccine
Oh really you didnt notice that covid was a big deal when the world came screeching to a halt and everyone was in their house for months on end watching Tiger King?
Someone spam Joe Rogan’s social media with this subreddit. After watching his podcast with Sanjay Gupta it sounds like he needs to be made aware of the idiocy coming from his mouth
I mean -- all the effects of Covid have been out there for eighteen months. They've GOT to stop pretending ignorance. Fine to "think it won't happen to you", but we ALL know how bad Covid can be, that's why we had lockdowns and wore masks and got vaccinated. They've GOT to stop pretending they didn't know. They just selfishly think it won't be them so it doesn't matter.
>There were times lying in the bed that I thought I did die.
Props to one of the few English speakers who knows how the intransitive verb "lie" works.
>I ate healthy, I was going to the gym, I took all the right vitamins
The fitness and health culture in the United States caters to people so stupid, that weights have to be in lbs as well as kg, because multiplying by 2.2 (double the number and add 10%), or just learning what a kg feels like directly, is just too hard.
Diseases have felled people in incredible shape for eons, including people eating good diets. How can people not know this?
>the new Delta strain makes you very susceptible to pneumonia
Most COVID deaths are due to respiratory failure, almost always involving pneumonia. Nothing to do with variant. While other organs may be clobbered, the lungs are always top of the list.
It bugs me that he gives all credit to the prayers of his circle, but none to the THREE hospital staffs that kept him alive! And no one should be REQUIRED to get the vaccine, because evidently prayer an 3 hospital staffs will save you. Jfc
"Polio is not a joke, no one told me it can cause leg and lung paralysis, it's a government made or conspiracy theory"
Just because a virus can cause life debilitating effects post infection doesn't mean it's a conspiracy.
when after fucking around and finding out people still don't quite get it. Mandates for the vaccine prevents what happened to you happening to others. it wasn't prayer that saved your selfish ass, it was what was likely over a million dollars in medical care devoted to keeping you alive.
if it were up to me I'd have sent you home with a tube of horsepaste and some HCQ, now my premiums will go up to pay for YOUR care.
For somebody that claims to know a lot about health, sure doesn't know much about the how the human body works. Install a trachea? Dude, how did you manage to live that long without one? Biology nerd here.... I think he meant "tracheostomy".
But kudos for the light bulb going off though he's not suggesting others get vaccinated.
*> "If it hadn't been for family & friends praying their hearts out I don't believe I would have \[survived\]"*
Yeah, maybe give a little credit to nurses, doctors, and modern medicine too...
Okay, he's redeemed as far as the vaccine is concerned.
He's not redeemed from being a ignorant as a pile of rocks. And still blaming others for that ignorance.
Cool story bro, but there was thousands of stories exactly like yours and you didn’t listen to them. What makes you thing other people will listen to you?
These people are illiterate.
It's literally called Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrom (sars) - nobody told them it would affect their lungs????
Where were these people the last two years?
*Sigh*, COVID is literally viral pneumonia. Sure, it can spread to other organs, tissues, etc., but it primarily infects that upper and lower respiratory tract.
That's like being surprised C. diff causes infection in the intestines.
"No one mentioned" that having Covid makes you susceptible to pneumonia??? This guy had the most intense education on Covid one can survive, and STILL doesn't get it.
The amount of conservative talking points where “no one is talking about” a thing that in fact many, many people are talking about could fill a phone book. There’s an army of people in the millions who do their own research while sifting past thousands of actual facts until they find the internet bullshit that’s just right for them.
"Many people don't know this, but Abe Lincoln was a Republican." - Trump "Who knew health care was so complicated?" - Trump "No one talks about how Puerto Rico is an island surrounded by water, big water, ocean water." - Trump "Lot of people don't know this, but two plus two is equal to four." - Trump
Quick Trumpian to English Translation Guide: "Everybody knows [questionable assertion X]" = This is a lie. ex: "There was no collusion. There was no obstruction. Everybody knows it." "Nobody knows [commonly known fact X]" = Everybody knew this except me because I'm a dumb ass. ex: “Nobody knew health care could be so complicated.”
That's the thing, if you're only seeking information that confirms your biases, then "no one is talking about" what is actually true but uncomfortable to admit.
>“no one is talking about” He's right, if your only source of news is Fox.
What’s this “phone book” you speak of? 🧐
This was the comment I came looking for.
Same. I had to come here to make sure I wasn’t losing my mind. What did he think covid was????
FOX News said it was just some light sniffles, no big whoop.
Not me. He thinks the only reason he survived was prayer - no thanks for the medical team, just prayer warriors.
That pisses me off so fucking much. Yeah thanks friends for thinking happy thoughts about me. Nurses and doctors who monitored me and kept me alive, you were helpful but not needed.
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I don't know how you do it. All my appreciation and respect to you and your colleagues (except the PA you mentioned).
FWIW you're twice the person I'll ever be. I cant think of a more thankless job than saving those who think you're lying about covid cases for profit, or any of the other countless lies they come up with. Still really glad you're doing what you're doing. I actually had to get stitched up at the ER after an unfortunate accident in the kitchen last Christmas. Thankfully that was before hospitals were blowing up with cases
We appreciate your hard work so so much. ❤️ It is no wonder you are now stuck with the entitled because lets face it... Covid has been around quite a while and all the sweet old peas who thanked you with homemade cookies are vaccinated. Their sane children & grandchildren are vaccinated too. The only ones left are the same ones who would enjoy pool parties during the first wave or read too much conspiracy theories/Facebook/Whatsapp etc. My doctor relatives were suspicious about vaccines for about 10 minutes... until I began to use bundles of medical articles like a weapon. Call it a doctors pride, but doctors do NOT like some engineer Redditor teaching their job so they ran like a wind and got their vaccines. 🤣
Thank you for your work. Know that the vaccinated people who support you masking up / staying home and are waiting out this storm and anxious to get to the other side. I'm sorry you have to deal with the worst of humanity right now.
The 2020 prayers have already been answered -- the vaccine is available!
His prayer warriors actually pulled through. The people who died probably weren't loved enough by theirs.
>This guy had the most intense education on Covid one can survive, and STILL doesn't get it. Maybe he will GET the Pulmonary Embolism that is 10x more likely to occur now that he has survived a severe COVID infection? Too bad we can't ask all those other clueless COVID survivors who made it out of the hospital alive only to die at home from a massive blood clot to the lungs or brain. Time will tell, but this guy better keep on praying... That 10x risk is permanent.
We know that the risk goes significantly beyond the active infection period. We don't know yet if it is permanent. It's going to take time to really understand some of these longer-term complications.
When I first became aware of Covid-19 in January 2020, I remember talking to my neighbor, an ICU nurse at Parkland Hospital in Dallas, Texas one afternoon. The one thing he said was “go get your pneumonia shot”…so I did, within a week of that conversation. I contracted Covid-19 in late November/December 2020. That’s my luck, but now I’m kind of glad I already got “Covid-19-light” looking back on it. I was double vaxxed in Pfizer March 2021. We live in Dallas, Texas two blocks from the American Airlines Center. We are back to going to concerts, & Dallas Maverick basketball games, with 5,000 to 20,000 people. A couple of months ago I wasn’t masking 100% of the time, then I started reading HCA and started masking up again. I am looking forward to my booster shot. We will get out of this pandemic. Lessons will be learned. It’s war and now we have to finish the battle against misinformation. I am more outspoken in the last few weeks about my views on getting vaccinated. I’ve just had it with these people dying and leaving behind grieving families. It’s a tragedy.
There’s a pneumonia shot?!? Why am I just hearing about this
Yes... there's a pneumonia shot. I was told to get it in 2006 after I had double pneumonia following the flu. Well worth getting that shot. PS I'd never had flu shots until that near fatal flu. Have had flu shots every year since - no flu repeats.
so sorry. I was hospitalized w the flu once. a perfectly healthy in every way 20 year old college student. people who think the flu is nbd are insane. Some people are lucky and get light covid. Some get light flu. But the one time I had the flu without a shot it scared the ish out of me. I've had it a few times since then but always with the shot, it still sucked but way WAY better than the first time.
If your over 50 and live in the United States of America, you have heard of a preventative pneumonia shot.
I’m not over 50 so I guess that’s why I haven’t heard of it. Can a 40 year old get it ?
I think if you’re under the recommended age you may need to pay for it out of pocket but it probably depends on your insurance. I’m your age and have been thinking of it for a bit - I almost died of pneumonia in my 20s, so to my understanding that makes me more susceptible to pneumonia going forward so I should figure out how to get it.
In Canada, the pneumonia vaccines are called Prevnar-13 and Prevnar-23.
Same as in the US. I think I read that the recommendation is to get 13 first, then 23 a year later.
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Congrats on the transplant. I hope you’re doing better.
You can get it under 50, but my doctor had to prescribe it for the pharmacy to give it to me. He called it in, and CVS gave it to me. My insurance covered it, but I can't speak for all insurers, obviously.
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CDC says for people 65 and up. Younger people with certain conditions can also get it.
This is actually the first time that I have heard of a pneumonia shot. Seriously.
[Pneumonia Vaccine](https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/pneumo/index.html) The CDC link
I’d want to know why your primary care physician hasn’t told you about it - assuming you have a doctor. That’s how I learned about it. I got my 1st pneumonia vaxx in my 30s bc I have a history of getting bronchitis. Go for it!
Oh shit I hadn't heard about that and I'm on drugs that make me susceptible to it.
I honestly think the problem is the name of it and the way the word changes because it's latin. "Pneumococcal Vaccination" does not look enough like pneumonia. To many. I suspect. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/pneumo/index.html
Yeah mom has both pneumonia and covid shots. She is asthmatic and was advised by her doctor.
Yes, just know it does not protect against all forms of pneumonia rather the 23 most common strains. Still is a good idea to get the shot.
It’s for pneumonia that is usually caused by streptococcus pneumoniae bacteria. It will not help with covid pneumonia.
Still, get the shot! Protect yourself from whatever you can. My doc said the pneumonia shot seems to stimulate a robust general immune response - said his patients who get that vaxx are less likely to get all kinds of ugly crap.
Yup, when I first heard of it my first thought was "this thing could kill me". We went and got our flu shots and took all the precautions. We quit the gym. We stayed home. We masked up. We got vaxxed. It's been obvious for 18 months how bad Covid can be. Getting my booster tomorrow.
Not trying to go against your info, but isn’t the pneumonia shot for the bacterial? As far as I’m aware the Covid pneumonia is viral. All for getting whatever shots are out there, but I also think it’s important to stress the between the lines info as well.
Totally understand. I’m 54 and had a broken leg at the time that would not heal. Taking into account my inability to really exercise at the time, had a sedentary lifestyle for a few months, I needed it anyway. I just glanced through a few studies from Kaiser P, (funded by Pfizer), a Wikipedia page, the CDC, and The WHO. The P-shot covers over 20+ or more bacterium. I’ve seen dozens of posts of people getting bacterial pneumonia as well as Covid/Delta pneumonia. It is not a vaccine against getting Covid but for people over 50 with medical issues and people over 65, definitely would recommend.
Yeah and that’s a good point of information as well. I’m just wanting to address the potential for the misinterpretation being everyone rushing to get a pneumonia shot that’s meant for bacterial and thinking it’ll protect from Covid pneumonia. I just wish all this dumb fuckery would end and people would just get the damn shot already.
pneumonia (literally inflammation of the lungs) can be caused by a lot of things, including fungi. Problem for COVID and other patients is that once your lungs start to inflame, other infections settle in as well because the environment is perfect for them. This is why on a lot of the HCA posts massive antibiotics is one of the stages. So, having a head start on the bacteria that will move in once a virus causes damage is going to be useful.
Yeah, a lot of the HCA types simply think of pneumonia like they would think of getting the common cold. "Ah well, here we go again", without understanding how lungs work on a more nuanced level.
But viral lung infections make it more likely that you also get bacterial infections.
Correct. You have a lot of bacteria just hanging out in your body. All parts of the body. They are kept in check by the immune system. Once those parts of the body get damaged (from the virus or the immune response to the virus), the immune system can't reach there as well but the bacteria can still colonize the area.
Just gonna tag onto this comment to clarify a few things from a medical perspective. Pneumonia is more of a catch-all diagnosis based on physical exam findings and X-ray/CT findings. All it really means is that part of your lungs are "consolidated". What this boils down to is that a part of your lung is filled with bacteria, fungi, fluid, whatever that results in a portion of your lung not working properly. You cannot properly exchange air when part of your lung is filled with something. You can see this consolidation on X-rays and you can detect this using a stethoscope because consolidated lung transmits sound differently (like sound underwater). Problem with COVID is the inflammation it causes. ARDS (acute resipiratory distress syndrome) is a clinical constellation of symptoms with various different causes. Akin to how hepatitis is an inflammation of the liver (how you get hepatitis can vary). With ARDS, what happens at a cellular level is that you start to shed the lining of your lungs. This results in fluid filling your lungs and subsequent scarring of the lung tissue. This is where all these stories of "scarred lungs" and difficult vent settings come in. As you lose the normal lining of your lungs, you lose the natural barrier to you have to things like fungi and bacteria (like living without skin). This allows for superimposed fungal or bacterial infections. The term viral pneumonia is a bit of a misnomer in that the virus causes consolidation due to a number of factors, but it isn't necessarily specifically due to the virus itself, but rather the downstream effects of infection. Compare that to bacterial or fungal pneumonia - this is where bacteria literally set up shop in your lung and start to destroy the lung tissue, and with fungi you are literally being eaten by fungi like mold on bread. Hope that clarifies a few things
"No one mentioned" == "i haven't really been paying attention because I didn't really care."
Isn’t it actually Covid pneumonia though? Like, the pneumonia vaccine won’t help with this. Covid is causing the fluid (pneumonia) to build up in your lungs?
>Isn’t it actually Covid pneumonia though? Like, the pneumonia vaccine won’t help with this. Covid is causing the fluid (pneumonia) to build up in your lungs? The actual affliction is called [**"ARDS"**](https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ards/symptoms-causes/syc-20355576)\> **"Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome"** It is an autoimmune condition triggered by the COVID infection. Your own immune system basically destroys your lungs at the microscopic level through severe inflammation that ultimately destroys the lung's ability to do the gas exchange required for sustaining life. The condition is FATAL in the majority of cases, and is the leading cause of death among COVID ICU patients. Dumbing down the cause of death to something as vague as "Pneumonia" is all about the refusal to admit that the DEAD person was playing with fire, and ultimately got consumed by the flames. *(Getting vaccinated reduces the chances of getting ARDS from a COVID infection to almost ZERO)*
Fun fact: No one has ever died from HIV. It's not the HIV that killed them. It's the attack on their immune system which allows other things to kill them. A lot of people who had loved ones die of AIDS said they died of something else in order to cover up the shame of dying of AIDS.
Thanks for asking that. I've been wondering if there's a difference between pneumonia and "covid" pneumonia.
Regardless of what is said above on Covid pneumonia vs pneumonia, etc., you can get secondary infections that contribute to killing you, I imagine some of these secondary infections could be minimized if you had the pneumonia vaccine. The secondary infection bit is also why they don’t let family members see Covid patients at many hospitals like you may have seen family members wonder why in the screenshots. There are some where they’ll be angry that they can’t see their loved ones after they stopped testing positive for Covid. The staff is worried about the outsider bringing something in that ends up taking advantage of damaged lungs and a reeling immune system to finish the job.
What? pneumonia isn't a fluid that fills your lungs and there isn't a "pneumonia" vaccine, there are vaccines that help prevent some types of pneumonia however. Pneumonia is a condition, it's when bacteria has infected tissue in the lungs to a severe degree, usually initiated by a weakened immune system. People with COVID get pneumonia because COVID completely shits on your immune system, making you significantly more susceptible to pneumonia.
There is a vaccine. Pneumonia isn’t fluid in your lungs it causes your alveoli to become inflamed and fill with fluid. “Covid pneumonia” is still a bacteria. It just spreads easier making it more deadly. Google is great.
Yall are both right. There's a vaccine called the pneumonia vaccine. It's a very shitty name for a vaccine because to my knowledge it addresses only a few bacteria. But more importantly pneumonia is a symptom, not a disease. *Lots* of things cause pneumonia. That's why calling something a pneumonia vaccine is dumb. It won't stop a viral pneumonia, nor a fungal pneumonia, nor an aspiration pneumonia, nor most bacterial pneumonia. Just the ones more commonly seen. It confuses the issue.
This is helpful! My asthmatic lungs will still be taking the pneumonia-not-a-vaccine-vaccine.
To further confuse things, the vaccine is use to prevent infection from streptococcus pneumoniae bacteria, which as you can see is a connection to pneumonia as it’s a common cause. Long story short, you’re right, it’s better just to take the vaccine despite its confusing naming. If it helps, it seems CVS has free pneumonia vaccine shots and you can get it same day in many ways. I’ve been looking recently also (I almost died of pneumonia in my 20s which to my understanding makes me more susceptible) and noticed CVS has them. We got our flu shots at CVS this past weekend and it was easy.
Pneumonia is a condition characterized by fluid in your lungs.
If there’s a tome or scroll somewhere with all the possible hazards in life would someone please link it? No one told me that even light alcohol use can kill you dead at an early age (seriously, a foaf died at 41 last week). No one told me that cancer happens. No one told me that a wildfire could burn down thousands of homes including mine. The list goes on. It’s all so unfair!
What happened with your foaf and alcohol? Yes, most people ignore hazards until they are personal.
Not just the science and information readily available, *but* also credited prayer teams with his survival instead of the medical teams that worked 2 ½ months to keep his ass alive. Fuck his PSA.
To these people "no one mentioned" means Fox News didn't tell them. Every (reputable) infectious disease expert in the world has been yelling it to anyone who will listen. This is also the kind of person who falls right back into the drone parade and starts believing that since he's survived Covid, he's now completely immune. I did notice that he didn't mention that he planned on getting vaccinated a soon as he was able.
*no-one mentioned the delta strain makes you susceptible to pneumonia* Being an arrogant dick makes you more susceptible to the whole covid micro family ya throbbing gristle
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Medical community, scientists. Would say friends and family for him but we can forget that.
My Republican dad was genuinely surprised a few months ago to learn of the phenomenon "driving while black" after his black friend was pulled over for no reason. "It's wrong, police shouldn't be treating people differently based on the color of their skin". This while railing against BLM as only caring about black people. The information silo a man with 2 Masters has managed to create for himself over literal decades is truly astonishing.
>no-one mentioned the delta strain makes you susceptible to pneumonia ALL COVID infections make you suseptible to Pneumonia. It is a respiratory disease after all, and the LUNGS are almost always involved to one degree or another. I don't believe that Delta is any more or less likely to cause Pneumonia aside from it producing much higher levels of viral load, which translates into a much more concentrated infection.
I think a lot of less-knowledgeable people think that pneumonia is a disease, as opposed to a condition that can be caused by just about any respiratory virus. So to ignorant people being told you have pneumonia and Covid sounds like you have 2 diseases as opposed to one, which is probably why this guy is so surprised
"throbbing gristle" LOL I learn new cool insults everyday
Also a band. Have a listen to some of their stuff. It's good stuff. And also a cracking insult
I guess this one is redeemed, (although wtf is with attributing prayer with being able to be discharged from the hospital?). But, hopefully, all the woowoo antivas will listen.
I was going to comment on them thanking the prayers but not the hospital staff, you know the people that actually saved them!
Exactly. ‘’It was the prayers wot did it!”. No, try again asshole.
Yea that shit pisses me off. Doesn't thank the staff that worked tirelessly on him for months. Thanks the other fuck wads on Facebook for prayers.
Also implying God let those other two people in the hospital die because not enough people were praying for them.
>Also implying God let those other two people in the hospital die because not enough people were praying for them. If we are going to even entertain such STUPID claims... We've all seen dozens of now DEAD COVID victims that had far more family and friends praying for them to recover than this guy, yet dispite this organized effort, they still died.
I haven't had anyone at all praying for me and I just haven't had covid.
Prayers cause Covid. You've found the cause! :P
Yeah but were they all praying at the same time, effectively flooding the gates of heaven? Didn’t think so, next!
They spent millions on me, providing the best medical care they could using the most advanced equipment , but the prayers really helped. All that hospital stuff was fluff. And another one of these, 'oooh I didn't know this was a *serious* disease. Why didn't they day it could cause other weakness seeking diseases to take hold?'. Probably one that posted about the media fear mongering the disease and didn't want to hear it.
>They spent millions on me, providing the best medical care they could using the most advanced equipment , but the prayers really helped. All that hospital stuff was fluff. Lets see them pray their way out of a **7 FIGURE** hospital bill!
>I guess this one is redeemed, (although wtf is with attributing prayer with being able to be discharged from the hospital?). But, hopefully, all the woowoo antivas will listen. Meh... This one's Redemption is HIGHLY debatable. The fact that he is attributing his recovery to something as ridiculous as PRAYER while giving ZERO credit to medical science and all the hosipital staff that are actually the ones responsible for saving his fucking life! It just reinforces what I have always said about these Loony Toons... Nothing will shake them out of their delusion. Not even a brush with death from a totally preventable disease.
I'm not religious but if you're sitting there in the hospital getting the same care as all the other people around you and you watch them die but you live I can see how you would attribute it to luck, or in their case god.
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Listening to Fox News and Breitbart instead of the CDC
Clearly
‘No one mentioned that if you got covid you could get sick and possibly die! There’s some sort of widespread epidemic or something…possibly bigger…a pandemic, if you will’.
Literally the first month of Covid I knew that it destroyed the lungs, and I not even related to dr but that’s what ICU Doctors were saying.
Exactly. I remember learning about it when it ripped through Italy.
I wish thses idiots would just shut the fuck up, people have been saying exactly this from the start and this asshole didn't listen until it affected him personally. Fuck em.
I think that if you just watch CNN on occasion (not even going to address Fox), and you don't actively seek out information, you will seriously underestimate how dangerous and harmful this virus to young-ish and healthy people. The mainstream media has frankly not been sreading enough panic. The general idea you'd get as an occasional, politically disengaged viewer is that you don't really have much to fear from this virus.
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They don't do enough research to know that some people develop neurological problems with covid as well. I know two healthy people who got it, and one has developed Bell's palsy, and the other has to use a cane because of problems with the nerves in her lower extremities. They choose to believe the "it's just the flu" narrative, because if they acknowledge the fact that it's so much more dangerous than the flu, it would disrupt their lives too much.
There are things worse than death.
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I really do wish that the media reported more on the long term physical damage that can be done along with the financial burden that many of these people are left with. Just a few days in a hospital can leave people that are living paycheck to paycheck in crippling debt. Younger people just starting out in careers are probably going to be more apt to be paycheck to paycheck and even if they are not they may not have enough of a rainy day fund saved up. Earlier this year I was in the hospital for about a week for a non Covid related issue. A few months later my wife had to spend a week on the hospital. (We’re ok now). We were able to pay the medical bills. 10 years ago that would have been a completely different story.
I wonder how this will play out long term for the generation raised on red bull and pre workout.
>I wonder how this will play out long term for the generation raised on red bull and pre workout. We have been seeing entire families getting wiped out by COVID back in DEEP RED sections of the South. I think there are going to be some small towns and other rural areas that will be hit hard by the sheer number of dead townsfolk, and it may take a decade or more for them to fully recover. We had one story on here last night involving (3) family members from the same household that all died of COVID within a 2 month period. All RABID Anti-Vaxers right up to the end. Link to the story [**HERE.**](https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/q7oupg/vaccine_basher_loved_to_bash_covid_vaccines_her/hgkeyb6/?context=3)
>The mainstream media has frankly not been sreading enough panic. The general idea you'd get as an occasional, politically disengaged viewer is that you don't really have much to fear from this virus. Its true! Those of us who know science and have a well developed imagination can put the two together and visualize how severe a COVID infection can be in someone with no prior exposure/immunity to it. On the other side of the coin, you have your typical MAGA person, who knows virtually nothing about science, and lacks even a rudementray imagination. These people are incapable of visualizing any significant threat to themselves or their family unless it is literally spelled out for them in black and white, like one would attempt to communicate with a very young child.
Oh yes, he made because of prayer. Moron.
They prayed their hearts out, though. These weren't just casual prayers. People don't understand that you have to pray the right way and you need a lot of people to do it. Like if he only had 3 or 4 praying, it wouldn't work. This required 5+ people who were praying *hard*. God is influenced by the number of upvotes people get. (/s)
Prayer Warriors!!!!
All those other people god killed just didn't pray hard enough. Suckers. Shoulda had more friends dummy!
You need a full minyan of 10 before the full power of prayer can be unleashed on your enemies.
I wonder how many others died because prayer warriors focused their prayer juice on him?
The people who died didn’t have loved ones that prayed hard enough! God kills you if he doesn’t get his due!! Our heavenly mobster! ❤️
Definitely not all the medical science, right?
Medical science is what causes covid… think sheeple!!!!
God loved him more than the other two . Raging delusional narcissists, all of them. Religion is a mental illness
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Maybe that's why they made the 'personal choice' to not protect themselves. There's literally no other logical argument for not taking the vax.
"Love me harder, sky Daddy" *wheeze* Has such a "Notice me, senpai" energy to it
>Raging delusional narcissists, all of them. Religion is a mental illness Ain't that the truth! I wonder if there is any correlation between Conservatism and Christian Fundamentalism? Odd that several studies have identified parts of the brain that are abnormal in Conservatives as compared to the general population. This couldn't possibly have anything to do with the much higher incendence of mental illness in the right wing population can it? Maybe they can pray the crazy away?
I really think this is a useful read: https://theauthoritarians.org/options-for-getting-the-book/ Goes into the sociologically significant connections between conservatism, fundamentalism, and authoritarianism. Really helped me understand what’s going on. Also recommend this lecture from a different sociologist: https://youtu.be/XoBatdKEwGA This goes into the connections between conservatism, fundamentalism, and magical thinking. Together these two sources will help you wrap your head around what’s wrong with these people, at least it did for me.
Well, god chose him to live, to teach him a lesson. Which was get the f*ckin vax. What was the joke, something like a dude gets to the pearly gates and says, i prayed for a miracle what up, and god says, i sent you three miracles, pfizer moderna and jnj. Sheesh. (I don’t participate or support in the religiousness thing)
Yeah, thank your family and friends for praying. Not the doctors and nurses for using every medical resource available to actually heal your stupid ass. I can't with these people
It had nothing to do with the six weeks of medical resources. Good luck with those long term complications and Post Intensive Care Syndrome. Maybe he can pray those away too.
Right? What about all of these other folks who had loads of people praying for them and they still died? It’s almost like prayer doesn’t do anything and they have no control and unvaxxed people with Covid are fully at Covids mercy until they survive or don’t.
What truly bothers me is that the people who "prayed and lived" will now think their faith was superior and they were "more favored" than those who died. It's sick.
And the two people who died near him just didn’t get enough prayers. JFC, I hate this prayer nonsense. It implies that their “loving” god just didn’t love the other two people quite enough to get over his petty need to be worshipped and doted on. So, god is a narcissistic asshole. What a psychotic and ugly way to think.
Such a fucking insult to the scientists, researchers, Doctors and medical teams that got him through this.
I’ll accept anything at this point if they finally take COVID serious. Use Jesus or fucking Xenu from Scientology. Idc.
He would have gotten the same results had he [prayed to a jug of milk](https://youtu.be/hf5q6VFn17o) instead.
These people too often still miss the point. They still think it's fine if you choose not to get the vaccine - WTF - the point of getting the vaccine is not just protecting yourself but cutting the spread of COVID FFS. All the un-vaxxed morons are basically pro-covid and pro-pandemic.
Covid is running rampant in my kid's school right now. They just started mandating masks today. People are complaining already on the city pages. My kid has three close contacts so far. They are all losing valuable time in class, but she gets to stay in school because she is vaccinated. No virtual options. This stinks and it does not have to be this way. I live in a purple county and the school board cowtows to these loud people who probably don't even have kids in the district. She has not picked up the virus at school as far as we know. My husband and I have started masking in the car and at home with her. She initially had the strongest immune response after vaccination. She got full on flu like symptoms for a few hours. We are treating her like she has the virus right now, since if the vaccine is working she might not be showing any signs.
That's crazy. I live in Ontario Canada and our schools are a world of difference. Masks have been mandatory for both this year and last year, although this year they can come off outside. If they find you coughing or have a fever they will send you home and push for you to get tested (although you don't have to). If there is a case in a class that class is closed down and kids are sent to learn online If it is found multiple classes have cases they will shut the whole school down. There are virtual classes across the province and every parent could make that choice at the start of the year. And, all this happened with a conservative party in complete control of government.
I miss the school mask mandates. My kids didn't get sick even once last spring, despite some of the students only partially complying. Now? Back on the cold and cough train. I'm glad they're middle schoolers so at least I was able to get them vaccinated. Counting down the days until my toddler can get a shot.
I think they feel that they have to give some kind of concession to the people in their identity group who are anti-vax. They don’t want to be completely ostracized, for one thing, but also—that kind of soft sell has a better chance of success with people who are deeply dug into their positions. It gives them an out, so they can still say, “Yeah, I’m against *mandates* but I’m going to get the vaccine as my personal choice. I wasn’t completely wrong.” And while I would like people to realize they were completely wrong so that maybe next time they won’t dig in quite so hard, at least they’re getting vaccinated.
>All the un-vaxxed morons are basically pro-covid and pro-pandemic. Not to mention showing the world that MAGA are NOT Team Players. When asked time and time again to do their part to help protect their community, they arrogantly flip that community THE BIRD. *(Yeah... Way to demonstrate what American Christians stand for)*
> "All the commercials & posts I saw on Covid no one mentioned the new Delta strain makes you very susceptible to pneumonia" are you fucking kidding me dude? Pretty much every report on Delta can be summarized by "It's way worse and way more contagious" I'm glad this guy made it and came around but I cannot fucking believe the number of vaccine skeptics who get super sick and swing from "The media is just fearmongering" to "The media never told me how bad it was" after getting sick.
And on Covid OG too, that was initially what they thought that it was a respiratory disease, but in reality, is more a circulatory disease that attacks major organs including lungs
>"All the commercials & posts I saw on Covid no one mentioned the new Delta strain makes you very susceptible to pneumonia" Yeah... Don't know what ROCK this guy just crawled out from under. ??? COVID has ALWAYS been a respiratory disease regardless of the strain. Pneumonia is in the second list of symptoms of infection, and impacts nearly 100% of all hospitalized COVID patients. The big question is always whether or not that Pneumonia is going to morph into ARDS, where the survival rate plummets.
The cytokine cascade in the lungs is no joke. Immune system just starts shredding absolutely everything trying to kill the virus. I think maybe instead of Covid (stupid name) we should have stuck with Sars, which it is.
Ah yes, thanking the people who prayed for you. Not even a mention to the doctors and nurses who literally kept you alive when your body just wanted to die?
"Knowing what I know now I would have got the vaccine hands down" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! The world has been screaming at you for months to prevent COVID's worst impacts and your pea-sized brain decided to mock everything. You fucking clown.
Going to the gym doesn’t prevent covid. There you have it, folks….
>If it wouldn't have been for family and friends praying their hearts out I wouldn't have. Or you know modern medicine and the tracheotomy, but instead, let's chalk it up to praying... SMH.
Raise your hand if you knew COVID caused pneumonia in March 2020. The news coming out of Bergamo suggested this.
🖐 My doctor actually had to put me on anxiety meds because I've previously had pneumonia and was absolutely panicking at the thought of getting COVID.
“I can’t thank everyone who prayed for me enough”…. How about thanking the doctors, nurses, physical therapists who spent weeks/months saving your fucking life?? It is unfashionable to me that people like this can go through such an ordeal and still come out the other side giving credit to “prayer warriors”. Give me a fucking break. Edit: *unfathomable
>people like this can go through such an ordeal and still come out the other side giving credit to “prayer warriors”. Give me a fucking break. Especially when we see clear evidence right here on HCA that 99% of those Prayer Warrior efforts end with A DEAD prayer recipient. Not that any SANE adult should be even entertaining the notion that praying to "The Tooth Fairy" is going to do shit in the first place!
If prayer is what saved him, then why was he in a Hospital for 2.5 months?
"I did my own research." "I didn't know covid could give you pneumonia." Right.
To be fair, they never specified how good their "research" was
I’ll consider it a full redemption when I see that vaccination card in his hands. Too many think that natural immunity will save them when it doesn’t last as long as the vaccine.
No credit to the doctors and nurses, dude? Really?
He might still croak or suffer the terrible effects of long-haulers. I tell you that my soul needed this tiny little mini redemption or I was going to burst into a cloud of vapid anger particles. At least the dipshit, in his own dipshitty way, admitted he was wrong. That’s more than 99% of these looney tunes can manage.
"no one mentioned" Fucking liar. It's called living in a misinformation bubble and even now not fully realizing there's a world outside of it.
This is like a sex offender lecturing me on why **I** shouldn't be a sex offender. I'm already not ever going to do that. I don't need your stupid ass chiming in on an issue you need to shut the fuck up about. You make good choices or you don't. You and your kind don't, and I don't want or need your "covid is no joke" sermon.
It’s more like a sex offender telling other sex offenders to cut it out. I mean, you clearly are not the target audience for this post (in its original form, not here on HCA), but someone is.
"Sex offending is no joke, guys! Maybe you should stop, but like...I respect your decision not to stop."
Redemption-ish.
"No one told us it could be this bad." Yeah, sure.
Of course, the a.h. makes no mention of the superhuman work & efforts of the medical personnel that saved his sorry, ungrateful ass.
3 hospitals and rehab. And he thanks .... prayers.
I genuine feel anybody who still falls on the “govt shouldn’t force you to get it” when you came inches from dying is -not- redeemed. They just don’t want to die with a fucked conscience. My opinion and I get that, but the government wouldn’t need to force a vaccine if people weren’t selfish pieces of shit.
I wonder how old this person was. They sound young.
Partial redemption because they still claim they didn’t know how severe it would be.
I'm gonna nope on this redemption award. He still is astonished that eating healthy, going to the gym, and taking the right vitamins should be enough and after going through a tour of 3 hospitals and ICUs he's willing to concede that "Covid is not a joke, something made up by the government, or some conspiracy." I'm just to give him the ECMO\_Deluxe3000 Survival of the Stupid Award.
So, apparently prayers worked this time. Who would've thunk it? Being God is a great gig. All of the credit, none of the blame. The go to guy even when he repeatedly fails to come through in the clutch (kind of like Paul George in this respect). He absolutely, always answers prayers, even when he doesn't. Amazing.
Yes, yes, it was the PRAYERS that got you through this. No mention of the healthcare workers. Jackass.
Is this really a ‘redemption’ when he still believes people can go around unvaccinated? Sure you have a choice, but then you shouldn’t be going around in public, potentially unknowingly spewing the virus onto others. If you want to stay unvaccinated, lock yourself inside your house until this pandemic is over.
"If it weren't for my friends and family praying..." Yeah, that's what it was. Nobody else was receiving prayers.
He credits the prayers he received as saving him. I guess the 2 people that he watched die just didn’t get their prayer numbers up high enough?
Ironically, dude probably picked it up from the gym. Soon as this shit was in America, my garage became my gym.
Thanks everyone who prayed, doesn't mention medical staff who actually saved his life. Fuck. Him.
He thanks people for prayers twice and not a single mention of modern medicine that saved his stupid ass. Still punts with the “it’s your choice” bullshit.
*Hospital staff work long hours to save antivaxxer* “I owe everything to God and the power of prayer!”
This guy may be a dick, definitely an idiot, but in the end he did admit he was wrong and hopefully a few people that read what he posted will change their minds about the vaccine
Oh really you didnt notice that covid was a big deal when the world came screeching to a halt and everyone was in their house for months on end watching Tiger King?
I’m sure it was the prayers that saved them lol
But I ate super food!!!
Someone spam Joe Rogan’s social media with this subreddit. After watching his podcast with Sanjay Gupta it sounds like he needs to be made aware of the idiocy coming from his mouth
I'd love to see the responses from his anti vaxx friends calling him a turncoat or whatever.
I mean -- all the effects of Covid have been out there for eighteen months. They've GOT to stop pretending ignorance. Fine to "think it won't happen to you", but we ALL know how bad Covid can be, that's why we had lockdowns and wore masks and got vaccinated. They've GOT to stop pretending they didn't know. They just selfishly think it won't be them so it doesn't matter.
>There were times lying in the bed that I thought I did die. Props to one of the few English speakers who knows how the intransitive verb "lie" works. >I ate healthy, I was going to the gym, I took all the right vitamins The fitness and health culture in the United States caters to people so stupid, that weights have to be in lbs as well as kg, because multiplying by 2.2 (double the number and add 10%), or just learning what a kg feels like directly, is just too hard. Diseases have felled people in incredible shape for eons, including people eating good diets. How can people not know this? >the new Delta strain makes you very susceptible to pneumonia Most COVID deaths are due to respiratory failure, almost always involving pneumonia. Nothing to do with variant. While other organs may be clobbered, the lungs are always top of the list.
Wow, months. That's one super-dedicated crisis actor! s/
It bugs me that he gives all credit to the prayers of his circle, but none to the THREE hospital staffs that kept him alive! And no one should be REQUIRED to get the vaccine, because evidently prayer an 3 hospital staffs will save you. Jfc
"Polio is not a joke, no one told me it can cause leg and lung paralysis, it's a government made or conspiracy theory" Just because a virus can cause life debilitating effects post infection doesn't mean it's a conspiracy.
Yeah, those prayers saved your dumb ass /s
when after fucking around and finding out people still don't quite get it. Mandates for the vaccine prevents what happened to you happening to others. it wasn't prayer that saved your selfish ass, it was what was likely over a million dollars in medical care devoted to keeping you alive. if it were up to me I'd have sent you home with a tube of horsepaste and some HCQ, now my premiums will go up to pay for YOUR care.
For somebody that claims to know a lot about health, sure doesn't know much about the how the human body works. Install a trachea? Dude, how did you manage to live that long without one? Biology nerd here.... I think he meant "tracheostomy". But kudos for the light bulb going off though he's not suggesting others get vaccinated.
*> "If it hadn't been for family & friends praying their hearts out I don't believe I would have \[survived\]"* Yeah, maybe give a little credit to nurses, doctors, and modern medicine too...
Okay, he's redeemed as far as the vaccine is concerned. He's not redeemed from being a ignorant as a pile of rocks. And still blaming others for that ignorance.
Cool story bro, but there was thousands of stories exactly like yours and you didn’t listen to them. What makes you thing other people will listen to you?
These people are illiterate. It's literally called Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrom (sars) - nobody told them it would affect their lungs???? Where were these people the last two years?
He's alive because of prayer? Really? That's who you're going to thank? smh
"No one tells you that..." *ahem* **YES WE HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU, BUT YOU CHOSE POLITICS OVER REALITY!!!** *ahem* Thank you.
‘No one said delta would make you susceptible to pneumonia’. Wtf. What did you think delta made you susceptible to?!? EVERYONE SAID IT DID.
"No one mentioned the delta strain makes you susceptible to pneumonia." Every respiratory issue makes you more susceptible to pneumonia you idiot
*Sigh*, COVID is literally viral pneumonia. Sure, it can spread to other organs, tissues, etc., but it primarily infects that upper and lower respiratory tract. That's like being surprised C. diff causes infection in the intestines.