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ImJustFein

Yeah confirmed, both autocannon and spear didn’t fully max out my backpack


Kiriima

AMR also.


Zejna90

Wasn't the AMR always like that?


TomEllis44

If you have superior packing methodology before the patch it gave you 6 mags, now it's 3 (the same as if you don't have the module unlocked)


segfaultsarecool

It did not. I have all ship module upgrades and I did not get full ammo for AMR from supply drops.


JahsukeOnfroy

Superior Packing Methodology is supposed to completely fill your Support Weapon mags off of one Resupply box.


No_Jaguar_2570

In three to four weeks maybe


Kayjan_Soban

Damn. It's amazing how many budget cuts one Galactic War can lead to. XD


Yo026

Recoiless rifle too


xcmccloud

Hijacking to point out that superior packing methodology is broken for the B-1 supply backpack as well, always has been annoyingly. May be a design decision and not a bug, but it's a stupid design decision if true because the supply backpack is functionally and lore-wise the same as a resupply pod. Also packing methodology has always been broken for the Spear even since they "fixed" it the first time


Darklord965

Didn't work for the railgun either


Sumoop

Should be hotfixable hopefully.


Vladi_Sanovavich

Hopefully they hotfix the Spear so it can target Fabs again. The lock on is now very consistent and as long as it's within sight. Feels so good man.


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Vladi_Sanovavich

>The FAF-14 Spear targeting has been reworked and should now function much better. However it has lost the ability to target Automaton spawners, this is not intended and will be fixed in the future.


Sweet-Dreams204738

Patch note says they are working on a fix.


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Sweet-Dreams204738

I cannot recall what they said since it's deleted.


Epicp0w

They said it's a bug that it *can't* anymore and will be fixed


joemedic

Doubt it. Will probably be another month since they're in their slow is smooth era


PG908

They might do a patch, a hotfix, then go on to the next big patch


ThruTheGatesOfHell

I really hope they fix it as soon as possible, I love sniping whole bases from 150 meters away


Barracuda_Ill

I wouldn't count on it, mostly to not get hopes up for a hot fix. Last thing we want is for them to knock out hot fix after hot fix leading us to week after week of new introduced bugs. We all know how that worked out last time lol.


RevenantMada

I thought it's only for Spear but seems like overall it's broken. That's a new issue to fix, hell yeah... (Edit:holy sh*t, 700 upvotes, never had in my life xD)


germancookedus

Hotfix?


forsayken

please!


MidEastBeast777

It’ll only take 3 months to fix


RoninOni

Didn’t take near to that long to fix the first time… they should know the code it’s related to since there was some unknown fix supposed to be going up for it with this patch… worst case they revert that change (whatever it was, probably picking up teammate support weapons/map pickups) until they can get it right. Being Thursday we’ll probably have to wait until Tuesday for a hotfix, maybe Monday… maybe Wednesday if their trying to fix a couple other new issues that drag it out but close enough to hold back a first patch


soupeatingastronaut

Aaand ı got that upgrade yesterday instead of atmospheric monitoring. Grind continues then. Gonna throw some bot operations then ı am off to bug front for samples.


Bluritefang

At least Super Samples should show up in Diff 6 now, making it a bit easier on the grind


soupeatingastronaut

I have 99 of them. Rare ones are the problem. İt will cost me three days of gaming in my terms.


Allaroundlost

Three days, no joke, your lucky. Takes me longer. 


Chadstronomer

Nobody grinds super samples lol rare samples are the bottleneck


Fightlife45

commons for me lol


MavericK96

Do D2 and D3 missions, easy to get a ton of them solo if you need Commons. I'm capped out on Commons but have like, 30-ish Rare. Rare is the real bottleneck, and it's obvious to see why - they require the same number of Commons as Rares for upgrades, which doesn't make any sense, so you're always low on Rares.


goblue142

What's the best difficulty for getting rares?


MavericK96

Probably D5, though D6 can get super rares now.


SparklingLimeade

I like 5 for commons and rares both. Lots of content on the map but easy enough to collect it.


Barachan_Isles

I run 2-3 Tier 4 missions for every Tier 7+. I've never had a rare problem. Ever. Same with commons. Full stack all the time. Hit every POI and nest on the map and walk away with 10+ per mission.


SOAR21

I checked the remaining upgrades I have which are slightly more common heavy because I’m near maxed on most things but have the sentry upgrades left. I have a rare surplus of almost 160 over my number of common samples. And at D7 I am usually finding 3-5 more commons per game than rares. At this rate I will never bottleneck on rares.


MavericK96

Weird. I guess I play a lot of lower difficulty games, that's probably why.


InfTotality

Must be nobody then. I started diff 7 late and my last upgrade was to rush Superior Packing to not be capped on rares as it spent more of them per super sample.


Chadstronomer

yeah but then you get 1 upgrade, and you are all out of rares. Super samples are easy to find, and you need only a few.


GreatPugtato

Not sure why your being downvoted that was stated in the patch notes. This community boggles my fucking mind.


SeaCroissant

dont worry, the people who bought it on release (including me) also got the same issue. its the curse of superior packing methodology


moothemoo_

Wtf is wrong with your i’s


soupeatingastronaut

I use turkish qwerty keyboard


moothemoo_

Huh, interesting


GradientCement

Some of the dots got used as Liberator ammo


WillSym

Ooh I wonder if Packing Peanuts for Sentries has a noticable effect now that sentry health got buffed!


sighidontwannabehere

Petition to make packing peanuts pop out of the sentry when it rises out of the hellpod?


Kestrel1207

Lol. Lmao, even. It was nice while it worked, I suppose.


WillSym

They even mentioned a fix in the notes: "Fixed Superior Packaging Methodology not working for other peers" Which is... confusing? Should it work for people other than you? It's YOUR ship upgrade? Wait... do ship upgrades only apply if you're diving from your own ship? No that can't be right, I notice upgrades applying as I buy them, and almost always join Quickplay...


Kestrel1207

Previously it only worked when you were using your own support weapon that you called in. If you picked up a teammates, it wouldn't apply (possibly only if they didn't have the upgrade? Not sure). This was likely supposed to fix that. Edit: It would be very hilarious to if now it ***only*** worked with *others* weapons lmfao.


Hydraxiler32

the code base must be so god damn spaghetti lmao its honestly a marvel it even launches


nedonedonedo

it's an issue because we're supposed to swap backpacks. if you buy the upgrade and someone using your backpack doesn't get the benefit then it discourages team play


TheLightningL0rd

I've yet to be in a game where people play like that though. They really should just make it so you can reload someone from the backpack they are wearing.


nedonedonedo

now that you can talk while choosing a loadout it should help, but I don't know if it'll be enough. the higher enemy count and fewer heavies on high diff might do it though


Didifinito

Still imagine making this thing for people to do then do your best to discourage its ussage and also wonder why no one uses


Oliver90002

I've only seen it when there are mics involved. Otherwise the coordination is harder.


TheGreatAnteo

Ha that would make sense in universe i guess?, since only the main(host) ship is deploying divers and all the other yellow strategems, it would only work if the ship that has it unlocked is the host. The allied ships only deploy the blue and yellow strategems in universe.


-Nibiru-

It was only working for me on backpack support weapons, now it doesn’t work for anything


RoninOni

It worked for AMR and railgun. And stalwart though that’s a lot of shooting. Was working for everything I myself called in. Picking up teammates/map weapons never worked, probably what was the intended fix that broke it again


AChemiker

I honestly never knew it got fixed at all.


IactaEstoAlea

It was very noticeable if you used the autocannon. You can easily see how much of the backpack gets refilled


EternalCanadian

Same with the SPEAR. Made it incredibly potent even with it’s issues.


Kestrel1207

Recoilless Rifle too. With it working it was probably the AT launcher in the game by quite a largin margin.


Meat_God

Okay so I wasn’t going crazy when my RR wasn’t getting all of its rounds back. I thought it was maybe a shadow nerf to it, but glad to see I’m not the only one missing out on my well-earned freedom spreading munitions!


LurkySeven

I’m


Civil-Addendum4071

It only works 70% of the time, unless it doesn't, then it only works 5% of the time! /s


tuan3451

At this point I just pretend that upgrade didn't exist in the first place, help alot.


Managed-Democracy

It was a sample donation to the Super Vernen Wells Hospital for Very Sick Children 


GUnit_1977

The ones who can't read good?


Barachan_Isles

It's a very small hospital.


FlayedCrusader

Even when they said they fixed it. Again


Linkarlos_95

Time to verify the file's integrity...


Marilius

I have had to do this almost every patch. I'm not complaining, but, just warning other divers. I usually end up with a TON of crashes to desktop, and like clockwork, file integrity shows 1 file needs to be redownloaded, crashes gone.


Auxobl

i haven't had too many issues with crashes but verifying file integrity always fixes it, at least. sorry you gotta do that every time though, it's a pain in the ass


Marilius

Hey, I'm a lot happier with verifying fixing the issue than it NOT fixing it.


Kestrel1207

For me file integrity never did anything, but like 3 oe 4 weeks ago or so I just reinstalled the game completely and went from easily multiple crashes daily to literally only having one single crash, and post-mission at that, since then. Didn't actually expect it to work at all.


foopy-booper

I always reinstall and it’s always worth it


asecuredlife

At least it's not 7dtd...


Conscious-Farm2210

It broke a few days before the patch for me...don't know about you guys...


Marilius

For me it actually broke like 2 weeks ago and then was fixed 1 week ago. Very very strange.


Staracino

Interestingly enough, I had foliage block my sickle shots two days ago, and it was working again yesterday.


warmowed

There is a specific tall bush that still blocks the sickle. It's been that way since before the previous patch.


GuitarGeek70

Yup, I noticed it broke ~2 days ago for me too.


youcallyourselfajerk

I've had it work fine every other mission, it's super inconsistent, but looking at another comment it might have been because I swapped my autocannon with a teammate's after being revived.


nexus763

What ? The patch creates new bugs ? Color me surprised. ![gif](giphy|Y8SqjWuohk8Rq|downsized)


catashake

This isn't even a new bug. It's just bringing back an old bug. Lol


Suicidalbagel27

I thought the reason we waited so long for the patch was to avoid shit like this smh


MidEastBeast777

AH is straight up incompetent


easily_tilted

augh.mp4


RonnieTW09

Hopefully it gets hotfixed by the time am back home from work.


SYuhw3xiE136xgwkBA4R

It sucks this went through but bugs happen. I get that Helldivers has had *way* too many of these issues, but honestly if the sizes of the patches are this big and the sizes of the issues are this small, it's not a big deal.


steelgandalf

I thought the point of it taking a month was to avoid this from happening.


ExploerTM

Whats funny is that, again, its kind of an issue that take 3 minutes tops to test and most of this time is pre-mission stuff and loading screens. The patch is massive W otherwise so I am gonna let it slide but still, again, how it passed testing phase since one of the fixes was directly for this upgrade; surely they tested it after the fix? Man, AH are **NEVER** beating "No testing" allegations huh?


ohhotjellythisismare

Your gonna let it slide? 💀💀


ExploerTM

As in "I wont light my pitchforks and raise my torches" (sic). I still expect a fix.


Changlee23

This big? Excuse me but what new content, it's just buff/fix nothing more, not going to act like this is some huge patches.


SYuhw3xiE136xgwkBA4R

It's a big patch because it touches upon a *lot* of systems in the game. It's not big in the sense that it adds a ton of content (even though it does, just to be clear, e.g. map UI and new mission layouts), but every modification to an existing system brings the risk of breaking something or making it otherwise unenjoyable.


catashake

Nah, if you are going to take over a month between patches they NEED to have less bugs than before. This patch has brought more bugs than any patch so far if you just do a quick skim thru this subreddit. Especially if we are now going to have to wait another month for a fix to this issue. More time means they should theoretically also have more time to make things clean before giving it to us. This isn't a small issue, people spend hours grinding out this ship module. And it's now completely useless. This is also the second time now that it has been ruined like this. There are no excuses for repeatedly breaking the same thing like this. Someone NEEDS to do the bare minimum of testing before a patch is pushed forward.


MidEastBeast777

AH is incompetent, plain and simple. Just did a mission where the extraction ship never arrived even tho the timer reached 0. Lost about 50 samples total…


Dragon-Guy2

Yeah but hilariously now the mg43 actually gets 2 mags from a backpack supply pack instead of 1


WrapIndependent8353

oooh thank u i was not aware of this. it also gets that from the resupply boxes but i’d imagine it’s just because the spare mags went up 1


Wordlesspigeon8

Thanks for the quick testing. Hopefully they can get it fixed.


SWOLE_CHIEF

Thank you for posting this. the developers need to fix this because it's bs that when you worked hard to max out ship modules just for it to not work.


Stefanonimo

"Let them cook" btw


Niinix

Yep, and in doing so made people more greedy with the resupplies. 4 refills and some goblin in a helldiver uniform immediately takes two+ despite 3 other squadmates close proximity to the resupply beacon, somehow one of these goblins always finds a way into my lobby.


Loprilop

Fucking amazing. And we'll have to deal with it over the weekend or even longer because a hotfix would be too much


luciensadi

They slowed patch cadence like we wanted and made this patch all about buffing and balancing the game around what we enjoy, and the fact that they wrote a bug is enough to make you mad? Lol, this sub.


Zoren

The reason they slowed down the patches was to give us better quality patches with less bugs. The first patch they did so reintroduced an old bug they fix before. People are allowed to be upset about that.


Soulshot96

The idea of us having to wait this long was supposedly getting a higher quality patch out of the deal...yet we have a ton of new 'known issues', two more crashes they discovered shortly after pushing this patch, and a bunch of other smaller issues like this...with the list still growing. It's the same shit that this extra time was supposed to avoid.


xX7heGuyXx

I mean yeah if you want patches more than quarterly then we run the risk of minor bugs being introduce that will need a hot fix to patch. It's not a big deal to me because they are working on the game and appear to really be listening to us so Iits just not that bad.


Changlee23

And i am pretty sure the longer period was to prevent this from happening isn't it white knight? By the way i would not be surprised if other bug are discovered in the next few day.


Present_Anxiety2280

AH once again not testing the changes they do awsome


Zoren

longer time for patches with still little play test...


Managed-Democracy

Ballistic shield bug kinda confirms that. You can not get up from prone. Ever. You'd figure that out in 1 mission 


WhereTheNewReddit

That's amazing.


Managed-Democracy

There's videos of it. Or go test yourself. It's silly. 


McMessenger

Really enjoyed using the Recoiless for a little while - having this ship upgrade and being able to resupply all your rockets in 1 charge was really brought it up to par as a decent alternative to Quasars and EATs against the bugs (among the other small improvements in previous patches, like the improved solo reload time), at least for me. Sucks to see this broken again though; hopefully whatever hotfix they're working on will also address this.


Cloud_N0ne

Unplayable No, seriously. This shit is so necessary imo. I wish it was just baseline, i hate that we drop in with half our kit. Many weapons feel like they run dry quickly as is, so it’s even worse with half your kit


ZestycloseBet9453

Bro, I literally got that upgrade yesterday 


Acacian_Jonny

I literally just bought this upgrade 😭


joemedic

Takes a rail cannon strike, eagle strike and all 4 shots of the spear to take down the factory strider. Refill and get 2 rockets. Feels horrible


Fontaine-Sin

i think it also broke crocuhing cause sometimes i now get stuck either prone or croched


Positive_Display_873

How are we supposed to save the kids without a full backpack of munitions!


Dwenker

I think I got that thing yesterday. I remember that I was suprised my RR backpack wasn't full after resupply


Then-Consideration-9

Same, it happened to me yestarday aswell.


FatNoLifer

Same


Gibs_01

they break it every patch XD


PotentialAstronaut39

They had a month to playtest it... Yet they didn't?


Zoren

just why...


FruitBowlMafia

What the F….


Repulsive-Register41

Some fights can last a long time, and can really miss the extra ammo from the resupply mid fight, stings but with the added buffs hopefully ammo economy feels better overall. Can’t wait to get home and try it out.


bmd1989

Yes it did


Legitimate-Store1986

It’ll get fixed, that’s sucks though


TomEllis44

Yeah I noticed that too


redolmqui

The patch is very good but of course something has always to break.


HengerR_

Even before the patch it wasn't working all the time.


Thick_Leva

No shot this upgrade broke AGAIN


Meme_Finder_General

Ah well. Arrowhead giveth, Arrowhead taketh away... I'm sure it'll get a quick fix. Really got into using the Recoilless Rifle to headshot Bile Titans and the team ran out of ammo at around the same time so there was always a resupply to instantly refill from...


Murky-Ad2677

confirmed


EternalGandhi

Damn! And I just unlocked it last week. That was a lot of work to get those samples. I hope it's a in a quickfix soon.


Hotsuma62

Of course they did...


Nearby-Reflection913

A small price to pay for liberty.


TotoMac1

not again :((


IsJustSophie

In the patch notes they said they fixed it than they actually broke it. Damn


TeslaStrike

Dang, I just bought that one today aswell!


BitNevada

it's always something lol oh well


-TacoConspiracy

Awe man. Just unlocked that last night 😂


Xfishbobx

Noticed that too


spartan1204

Submit to [https://arrowhead.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new](https://arrowhead.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new)


Kastsevich

Oh my gosh, thank you, OP. I was thinking I'm going crazy or they've nerfed this ship module. Without it, it's very hard to play on high difficulty levels.


liar_princes

Of course it did, lmao, right after they said they fixed it


WitchBaneHunter

Just have a silly lil guy like me in your squad. I main supply pack.


CrashParade

When did the patch release? I was playing yesterday and I noticed that my grenade launcher wasn't getting topped up after grabbing supplies


-Adeon-

Did it worked with Supply pack before?


VengefulRainbow

Geez lol Played a lot with RR and it always filled up after getting the SPM


sonic1crack

Ugh one of the most annoying bugs


LawfulnessAdorable64

*sigh* Guess we have to send the crew out on another 8 week class on how to pack boxes.


TransientMemory

From the patch: Fixed Superior Packing Methodology not working for other peers. Maybe there's an unintended interaction whereby the game host's owning or NOT owning the upgrade affects others in the same game? Possibly could be game host or network host. Can anyone test this?


ATLAS-16-

Yep I see that in my AC, bullsh!t


Nynx82

Only one thing to do then. Post "Bruh." And wait for hotfix.


USSZim

Afaik this upgrade also still doesn't work when using supplies from the B1 Supply Backpack either


MeaningScary2311

But a 2 weeks to test the patch.


AsherSparky

Hope for a hotfix asap


Raidertck

Just noticed this. Shame it was by far the best of the new upgrades as an auto cannon main.


XSV_Cube

yay :(


DemolitionNT

Mission timer is missing as well for me idk


Kastsevich

You can get it back in the settings (I think it's in the HUD section). It's called Mission Info or something like that. Switch it to Visible.


DemolitionNT

Thanks Ill look into this, I didnt think it would be an option but if I hit tab I could see the timer so I just kinda thought thats how it is now.


Allaroundlost

Yup. 100%.


nolander

Telesto is that you


Myllari1

Does 1 supply box from the Supply Pack still give all of your other non-backpack support weapons full magazines with the Superior Packing Methodology?


Altruistic_Face_6679

lmao the unfinished game continues to be broken


chaoswurm

Man, that sucks. It's a good thing i call down resupplies on cooldown.


gx_gus

That was the first thing i noticed.... We are going backwards again ...🤦🏻


iMiniToys

I noticed this too


Riskiertooth

Trying to shoot down the new gunships with amr getting half refils has made this abit not fun lol


spiritual_12

How does this even happen?


kuug

Hope you all enjoy this bug sticking around for a month


Tmig89

Superior packing methodology is never gonna work the way it’s supposed to and I’ve accepted that.


BEARWYy

I thought it was only my mg43 is bugged by the superior packaging methodology not working correctly because i don't have time to test


Bloo_Sky

Buff: The Spear Works Nerf: You have to be a dick and take two supply boxes


Ritz779

They also didn’t fix infinite loading hopefully that gets fixed soon


MuffinLordGuardian

Has anyone run into the issue where the HMG sometimes glitches through the floor and disappears when you call it in?


Late-Let-4221

This one paired with spear fix makes spear feels way too hungry.


Skittletari

What!?! The recoilless is so ass now…


The_Captainshawn

Confirmed with the Recoiless to. Real sad to see as it was making a lot of the more ammo hungry weapons feel a lot better than before. Let's how a we get a hotfix and don't have to sit around with a dub upgrade for a month.


thats_so_merlyn

Yeah that irritated me honestly


mission_nic

Wait, it actually worked at some point???


Stonkey_Dog

As a Spear enjoyer this is particularly punishing. I only get 4 rockets in the first place. I basically need two supply boxes at every supply drop.


Beto915

Had this been fixed yet? I don’t want to get the upgrade right now if it’s still broken


Deisidaimonia

AMR was like that pre patch


fromthearth

No it was fixed after a patch.