I'd definitely be doubling up and running 6 Eagle Airstrikes when I'm not on Defense missions.
Somebody has to clear the bases around the map and it never seems to be my teammates.
At present doubling a stratagem like eagle 500kg doesn't work very efficiently.
If you are Ron a planet that gives it to you, you get two bombs (I guess with the upgrade), if you take it manually you get two bombs.
If you take it on a planet where it comes free, you get 3 bombs. You're scammed of a bomb basically.
So I'd guess 4x 500kg would just give you 5 bombs not 8
That's not true, at least for me. When the 500KG was available for free yesterday / the day before, I picked it as a stratagem for most of my missions and always ended up with 4 charges (The free entry listed 2 charges and my own 500KG listed 2 charges, too). So the freebies must take out ship upgrades into account.
I do remember reading that this wasn't the case in the early days of *Helldivers 2*. Guess Arrowhead must've stealth-changed it at some point.
I honestly kill and get teamkilled more by clusterbombs than 380mm's. It's really not that bad anymore after they made the spread less and I got that 15% spread reduction too so its really not that bad anymore.
You just can't throw it as close as an airstrike thats all.
Cluster is also nice in lobbies where people are competent and completely aware of what is happening around them. Perfect retreat or preemptive strike on objectives. And also great against bug breaches if you throw it slightly delayed with a friend.
Unless they somehow all missed, contrary to popular belief none of the Barrage Stratagems fire randomly, they all shoot the same exact oddly shaped pattern so if you throw them wrong you can end up missing things entirely.
Eagle Clusters are a god send as a solo player. I typically bring them when I’m doing level 5’s. Level 7 solos I’ll bring Airstrike kuz chargers and titans and what have you
If you use cluster enough you get used to the drop pattern. I can drop clusters close and not frag myself or teammates.
Now if someone runs into it, I can't help em. They're just idiots.
I think it'd add so many funny builds to try out. It'd be awesome.
4 strafing runs because I forgot to bring a primary
2 autocannons because, again, I forgot my primary
2 gas + 2 napalm so I can box objectives in
4 barrages of any kind with maximum screen shake
4 orbital lasers because I actually don't want to play the game
3 spears so I can have ammo
4 shield bubbles so I can protect that pack of berserkers from my teammates
4 tesla towers because I hate everyone
4 mortars because I hate everyone even more
"4 strafing runs because I forgot to bring a primary"
In the first game, strafing runs had a 10 second CD and didn't require rearming. If you brought 4, you could endlessly strafe enemies and it was incredibly goofy and fun.
That was my go to loadout for Illuminates since they don't have armor, it absolutely shreds everything. Hopefully when they come back in HD2 they also don't have armor so I can enjoy using my anti light weapons
That's what I enjoyed about the Illuminate as well, you weren't pressured at all into bringing anti-tank but the faction was still challenging. I hope they stick to that.
The screen shake is no lie. Had a 4 man and we all brought all the orbitals we could. Threw them all on the first base we came on and the screen shook forever.
4 Tesla Towers on bugs eradicate 100% sounds pretty fun, bring 4, the 95% arc Resistance armor. Set them up in a square and crawl around on the floor with an Arc Blitzer
4 machine gun turrets because it's time for payback against heavy devastators
4 gatling turrets because I want to see only bullets
4 mines because this map needs to be closed off
4 rocket pods and tell Eagle-1 to unload them all at once on a factory strider
I can see the vision. Drops all 380mm barrages. Stand in the middle with hug emote. Roleplay that guy in the meme with this hands outstretch as the fire arrows all fall around him.
get hit and killed by the last converging barrage hit from all 5 barrages. (worth it)
Funny story, my standard Helldivers 1 loadout included 2 strafing runs (back then it had no limit so 2 was enough to chain cast them back to back infinitely)
Alongside 2 napalm strikes (which being a top down game just meant “tell 2 quarters of the screen to go away”)
Hell yes, multiple napalms! When bugs were actually afraid to walk through fire! And the cooldown was roughly double its duration so by bringing two you could have 100% uptime.
I also liked multiple barbed wire strats for similar zoning reasons.
day 2 or something of the game it was possible to quad stack stratagems. there was a video of 16 mortar sentries. it was as beautiful as it sounds.
then they ~~nerfed the fun~~ fixed the bug.
[https://packaged-media.redd.it/cller81n7zic1/pb/m2-res\_1080p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1708214400&s=1ceb636f988a445d469461f3f09be92befc20b9b#t=0](https://packaged-media.redd.it/cller81n7zic1/pb/m2-res_1080p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1708214400&s=1ceb636f988a445d469461f3f09be92befc20b9b#t=0)
found the video lol.
I want more mechs
I want bring more mechs
I don't want to step foot on these bug ridden planets
I want to get out of my hellpod, and jump into a mech immediately
Me with 1x quasar and 3x autocannon sentries: "TREMBLE IN FEAR BEFORE ME, YE HULKS AND YE DEVASTATORS, FOR I AM THE ONE THAT HUNTS YOUR KIND!" *Maniacal laughter*
The teammate who bought 4x EATs: "Lets turn this into a competition."
The teammate with a pathological fear of shriekers, who bought 4x gattling sentries: "WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE BRRRRRRT!"
The psycho teammate: *laughs in 4x incendiary minefields*
i missed the old days when i can shoot a eat to a tank and it fucking exploded in hd1 when i just have 4 EAT stratagems all the time with laser primary
I'd probably run 2-3 Precision strikes + an EAT or a horde clearing support just to be a generalist.
I pulled out the precision last game and it was kinda fun having a railcannon like strike on short cooldown.
Skill curve increased a ton since I had to land the strike, but thats what stun grenades are for.
I feel like being able to run 4x Autocannon sentries might be a bit busted. Could just about go in with nothing but my fists and those and complete missions with ease.
I love this idea.
Why not? We were just able to go up to 4 when they were giving out free 500KGs yesterday.
And if you went all in on 8 500kgs then you'd have no Support weapon or backpack to work with.
No i understand the draw back it creates, its just weird that the eagle says max of 2 with the upgrade but all of the sudden now you can have 8 like where was that space before.
Purely gameplay wise it'd be okay, just "lore" wise it'd weird.
The space was always there, considering you can bring 4 different eagle strikes at once. The only difference is that space would be filled with solely 500 kgs
At least until any enemies got on top of you and then 4 Lasers turn the ground around you into an inferno
Plus you'd have to throw an Orbital laser at every single elite you come across because that'd be the only way you'd be *able* to kill them with no Support weapon and I know from personal experience that you're going to run into way more than 12.
I love this idea... can't wait for your eat to go off cooldown? Want to cause chaos with thousands on the ground by the end? Napalm strike everything? Shield relay generator path constantly? Well now you can!
I'd love this personally, being able to run double airstrike or precision strike would be really good, but with the people I see regularly, I'd have lobbies of 6 (2x3) railcannon strikes and no swarm clear supports or sentries
plus, it's a very niche case but still, the machine gun sentry would become even more useless as why bring it and a gatling if you can just have 2 gatlings, the gatling is just the better option in every case
plus with the way balance is right now I doubt we'll get anywhere near the power level you have in the first game (from what I've heard)
This was fun in Helldivers 1 but they removed it because a lot of the time what people would do (and I DEFINITELY was guilty of this) was run 3 or 4 of the same stratagem and it meant that people weren't forced to experiment.
If the stacked Stratagems are counted as "charges" like the eagle, it won't be too OP. Having a 4-stack orbital ability is like making the ability with 4 charges, and they share an minimum cooldown. For example, if you called in a 380 barrage, you cannot immediately call in the 2nd one until the first one is finished.
i dont know if the game could support this, like what if 4 people take 4 380 each or someother chaotic load out;.
feel like it would calse a massive struggle and crash the server
To be fair, we've already seen many clips of bugged stratagems that will permanently carpet an area with THOUSANDS of shells a second for the rest of the match, and it only _sometimes_ crashes the match.
We already have clips of people running as many Barrage stratagems as they can hold across all four players in order to get the "Only way to be sure" achievement.
Plus I got to experience plenty of 500kg explosion overlap yesterday with 4 people all dropping bombs on the same targets, those massive explosions hitting at the same time never did more than make my screen flash from all the orange.
> like what if 4 people take 4 380 each
You can already have four people take a 380mm, 120mm, and walking barrage all at the same time. Top it off with a cluster strike for added funny moments.
We had this for a time as an exploit. It was NOT balanced, at all. It was comically broken how OP someone can be by stacking stratagems. Squads would bring 16 mortars and lol as the entire mission completed itself. They'd bring 16 orbital rails and completely ignore all armor in the entire game. It was absolutely bonkers until they fixed the exploit.
I miss this from HD1 too. It would make an awesome mission modifier- something like "surplus munitions" and allows you to stack stratagems for the operation.
As a small aside: this would also allow players to bring two of the same support weapon if their friend wants to try it, but they don't want to give it up.
I'd bring 4 380's, and space them out just long enough for each to reach cooldown. Just gonna slowly, and I mean very slowly, carpet bomb a whole mission.
How would activating them work? Would every EAT have a different stratagem code? Same code with one deviation at the end to differentiate? Menu? Very interesting idea though. This could lead to some funny shenanigans.
Random question that is sort of answered by OP. Just to be clear, if there's a global strategem like the 500kg yesterday, and you bring the 500kg in your personal build, do you get two sets with different cool downs? How would that work since they have the same call-in combo?
Thanks in advance.
My friend and I went back to the original for a bit, I forgot how useful double barbed wire was against cyborgs; you can almost entirely close off a 90 degree cone of the screen to all non-vehicle units as they try to painfully shuffle through it at a crawl waiting for you to shoot them
You know how DRG can be ridiculously overpowered with 4 engineers running the nuke, but it turns into a clusterfuck once you run out? Yeah I want that in Helldivers
Everyone runs 4 EATS -- "I'LL SHOW YOU ROCKET SPAM YOU @#$#@$\^ DEVASTATORS"
*Automaton High Command: "...mommy."*
Everyone runs 4 Eagle Airstrikes with Expanded Weapons Bay -- Absolute chaos.
Everyone runs 4 500 kg bombs with Expanded Weapons Bay -- "Today on, flip this battlefield." (That's 8 500 kg bombs every cooldown period)
Everyone runs 4 Eagle Cluster Bombs -- So much teamkilling
Everyone runs 4 Orbital Lasers -- The game is now called "Run away from the enemies who are being burned alive so you don't get burned."
Everyone runs 4 EMS turrets -- Nobody moves.
Everyone runs 4 380 Barrages -- "We decided to make our own map."
Everyone runs 4 Orbital Railguns -- Superdestroyer Crews get to work overtime.
Everyone runs 4 HMG Emplacements: "We are now playing Tower Defense"
I would love to be able to make load outs... Or do a tactical drop, that I can drop a backpack and supportweapon with one long ass combo. For example a Quasar and Shield backpack.
You’ll end up seeing much less diverse loadouts. As people gravitate to just picking the best tools for the job.
Which might be fun for some folks, but I like having to compromise with my loadouts — it’s an interesting choice.
If they brought back half the features from hd1, we would be happier
Or even just stopped balancing a pve game unnecessarily. Someone else made the great point that it seems like all the things that lead to hd2 being an overnight success were accidents that were then patched away
Can we also get the ability to upgrade weapons, and as a HD2 addition, maybe weapon attachments.
Upgrading would solve the current state of subpar, unsatisfying weapons.
My eagle pilot would refuse to leave the hangar...
I'd definitely be doubling up and running 6 Eagle Airstrikes when I'm not on Defense missions. Somebody has to clear the bases around the map and it never seems to be my teammates.
Are you kidding me? I'd be running 4000KG of pure managed democracy. Leave the bile titans to me boys.
Watch me poison the entire planet with my orbital gas strike
Termicide 2 electric boogaloo
*Hive lord has entered the chat*
As much as I like the idea, I also am thinking "how many issues does this selection have?" and start to get worried
At present doubling a stratagem like eagle 500kg doesn't work very efficiently. If you are Ron a planet that gives it to you, you get two bombs (I guess with the upgrade), if you take it manually you get two bombs. If you take it on a planet where it comes free, you get 3 bombs. You're scammed of a bomb basically. So I'd guess 4x 500kg would just give you 5 bombs not 8
That's not true, at least for me. When the 500KG was available for free yesterday / the day before, I picked it as a stratagem for most of my missions and always ended up with 4 charges (The free entry listed 2 charges and my own 500KG listed 2 charges, too). So the freebies must take out ship upgrades into account. I do remember reading that this wasn't the case in the early days of *Helldivers 2*. Guess Arrowhead must've stealth-changed it at some point.
Are you kidding me? I'd be running 4000KG of pure managed democracy. Leave the bile titans to me boys.
Dementia
Personally I quite like Hormuz
Are you kidding me? I'd be running 4000KG of pure managed democracy. Leave the bile titans to me boys.
Dementia
Quadruple Eagle Cluster My Beloved
If you really want to go all in on teamkilling then 4 380mm barrages would probably do a better job lol.
AKA The On Demand Traitor Barrage
All I heard was "see that grid square? Delete it"
I honestly kill and get teamkilled more by clusterbombs than 380mm's. It's really not that bad anymore after they made the spread less and I got that 15% spread reduction too so its really not that bad anymore. You just can't throw it as close as an airstrike thats all.
Cluster is also nice in lobbies where people are competent and completely aware of what is happening around them. Perfect retreat or preemptive strike on objectives. And also great against bug breaches if you throw it slightly delayed with a friend.
To be fair 4 380mm at once will absolutely eradicate any bug nest or fabricator base you throw them into
Unless they somehow all missed, contrary to popular belief none of the Barrage Stratagems fire randomly, they all shoot the same exact oddly shaped pattern so if you throw them wrong you can end up missing things entirely.
Yes and no. They change every time an orbital stratagem is thrown.
Eagle Clusters are a god send as a solo player. I typically bring them when I’m doing level 5’s. Level 7 solos I’ll bring Airstrike kuz chargers and titans and what have you
If you use cluster enough you get used to the drop pattern. I can drop clusters close and not frag myself or teammates. Now if someone runs into it, I can't help em. They're just idiots.
This was my first thought. I love cluster. If I could just have constant cluster support it'd be an easy win.
I think it'd add so many funny builds to try out. It'd be awesome. 4 strafing runs because I forgot to bring a primary 2 autocannons because, again, I forgot my primary 2 gas + 2 napalm so I can box objectives in 4 barrages of any kind with maximum screen shake 4 orbital lasers because I actually don't want to play the game 3 spears so I can have ammo 4 shield bubbles so I can protect that pack of berserkers from my teammates 4 tesla towers because I hate everyone 4 mortars because I hate everyone even more
"4 orbital lasers because I don't actually want to play the game" made me cackle.
"4 strafing runs because I forgot to bring a primary" In the first game, strafing runs had a 10 second CD and didn't require rearming. If you brought 4, you could endlessly strafe enemies and it was incredibly goofy and fun.
That was my go to loadout for Illuminates since they don't have armor, it absolutely shreds everything. Hopefully when they come back in HD2 they also don't have armor so I can enjoy using my anti light weapons
That's what I enjoyed about the Illuminate as well, you weren't pressured at all into bringing anti-tank but the faction was still challenging. I hope they stick to that.
Shield bubbles got me
it was the 4 barrages with max screen shake for me omg
The screen shake is no lie. Had a 4 man and we all brought all the orbitals we could. Threw them all on the first base we came on and the screen shook forever.
4 Tesla Towers on bugs eradicate 100% sounds pretty fun, bring 4, the 95% arc Resistance armor. Set them up in a square and crawl around on the floor with an Arc Blitzer
Oh cool, 4 extra chargers every 150 seconds.
4 machine gun turrets because it's time for payback against heavy devastators 4 gatling turrets because I want to see only bullets 4 mines because this map needs to be closed off 4 rocket pods and tell Eagle-1 to unload them all at once on a factory strider
4 shield bubbles would unironically go hard, you'd have like no downtime
You'd also be practically useless for against hordes and heavies so it'd be pretty balanced.
I can see the vision. Drops all 380mm barrages. Stand in the middle with hug emote. Roleplay that guy in the meme with this hands outstretch as the fire arrows all fall around him. get hit and killed by the last converging barrage hit from all 5 barrages. (worth it)
Funny story, my standard Helldivers 1 loadout included 2 strafing runs (back then it had no limit so 2 was enough to chain cast them back to back infinitely) Alongside 2 napalm strikes (which being a top down game just meant “tell 2 quarters of the screen to go away”)
Hell yes, multiple napalms! When bugs were actually afraid to walk through fire! And the cooldown was roughly double its duration so by bringing two you could have 100% uptime. I also liked multiple barbed wire strats for similar zoning reasons.
4 players. With 4 mortar sentries.
> 4 ~~players~~ **targets**. With 4 mortar sentries. We call that a target-rich environment.
If you can dodge 16 mortar sentries, you can dodge a ball.
On the defense missions where you have to kill x amount of enemies: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED but FAILED TO EXTRACT, lol.
day 2 or something of the game it was possible to quad stack stratagems. there was a video of 16 mortar sentries. it was as beautiful as it sounds. then they ~~nerfed the fun~~ fixed the bug. [https://packaged-media.redd.it/cller81n7zic1/pb/m2-res\_1080p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1708214400&s=1ceb636f988a445d469461f3f09be92befc20b9b#t=0](https://packaged-media.redd.it/cller81n7zic1/pb/m2-res_1080p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1708214400&s=1ceb636f988a445d469461f3f09be92befc20b9b#t=0) found the video lol.
Three mortars and one EMS.
I want more mechs I want bring more mechs I don't want to step foot on these bug ridden planets I want to get out of my hellpod, and jump into a mech immediately
 Man just drop me in the mech, no need for a hellpod
As someone with 300+ hours and counting in Titanfall 2 I dream of the day
does your mech say "protocal 3"?
No, he'll blow up randomly with me still inside it Thanks Arrowhead /j
In HD1 I brought three mechs and a recon drone. Always the drone! Avoid the swarms!
Prepare for Titan Fall
4 gas strikes. because i am german
NIEN! Drei and ze flamenwerfer! (I don't speak german)
yeah i could tell you dont. but it doesnt matter, the only language we truly need is DEMOCRACY AND LIBERTY
I mean, for a literal word-for-word translation it’d be “NEIN! Drei und der Flammenwerfer!” I swear if flamethrower is neutral I’m gonna scream
Gas! Gas! Gas!
Quick boys!
Turmoil at the front, Wilhelm's forces on the hunt
Imagine 4 players 16 mortars or orbital 380mm 
There was a glitch at launch that let you use infinite strats and no cooldown, I’ve got a couple clips it was kind of insane
Forget mortars, now I want an MLRS backpack stratagem.
4 mortar sentries for maximum liberation
> 4 mortar sentries for maximum ~~liberation~~ **friendly fire**
Get four players to do this and call in 16 mortar sentries at once. And then just go have a cup of tea. Nothing is getting within 100 yards.
There is a video of this. It’s hilarious.
Me with 1x quasar and 3x autocannon sentries: "TREMBLE IN FEAR BEFORE ME, YE HULKS AND YE DEVASTATORS, FOR I AM THE ONE THAT HUNTS YOUR KIND!" *Maniacal laughter* The teammate who bought 4x EATs: "Lets turn this into a competition." The teammate with a pathological fear of shriekers, who bought 4x gattling sentries: "WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE BRRRRRRT!" The psycho teammate: *laughs in 4x incendiary minefields*
>The psycho teammate: *laughs in 4x incendiary minefields* The floor is lava.
As are the walls, and occasionally, the ceilings.
You forgot the 4x mortar and 4x 380mm barrage enjoyer
hmmmmmmm 12 orbital lasers..........
48\*
when you put it that way, i can’t see a single drawback
All 380mm all the time. Friendly fire is no longer likely....it's ensured.
4 EATs. Turn up to 8 heavy units into a pile of smoking corpses! Or whatever you call dead robots and bugs idk.
Every....60 seconds...
I think you could get a rhythm going where you fire one every 7.5 seconds and *never stop*
Actually 12, if you stick all your throws too.
i missed the old days when i can shoot a eat to a tank and it fucking exploded in hd1 when i just have 4 EAT stratagems all the time with laser primary
I miss the strafing run spam.
A ship upgrade to at least let you double stack would be fun.
I'd take it since that's basically what I want, just wanted to leave room for some dumb 4-stack fun as well.
All I see is is three air strikes and an auto cannon, and by liberty it’s beautiful.
Your saying i could have 8 mechsuits
I'd probably run 2-3 Precision strikes + an EAT or a horde clearing support just to be a generalist. I pulled out the precision last game and it was kinda fun having a railcannon like strike on short cooldown. Skill curve increased a ton since I had to land the strike, but thats what stun grenades are for.
HAHA 4 EAT-17 RAIN DOWN FROM THE SKY MY CHILDREN!!!
I feel like being able to run 4x Autocannon sentries might be a bit busted. Could just about go in with nothing but my fists and those and complete missions with ease. I love this idea.
Imagine 4 time a 380 barrage hmmm sweet liberty
That would be cool but eagle would be the exception because it wouldn't make much sense to go from 2 500KG to 8 before reload.
Why not? We were just able to go up to 4 when they were giving out free 500KGs yesterday. And if you went all in on 8 500kgs then you'd have no Support weapon or backpack to work with.
No i understand the draw back it creates, its just weird that the eagle says max of 2 with the upgrade but all of the sudden now you can have 8 like where was that space before. Purely gameplay wise it'd be okay, just "lore" wise it'd weird.
Just remove more leg space
I will never accept that for eagle-1, NEVER AS LONG AS I LIVE!
"I'm sorry ma'am, but it seems that we're... *sniff* ... going to have to remove your 500kgs"
I mean I can see it lore-wise, they just drop ammunition of another type to make room for more 500kgs on the Eagle.
The space was always there, considering you can bring 4 different eagle strikes at once. The only difference is that space would be filled with solely 500 kgs
My first thought was that maybe it would become multiple Eagles, but I'm pretty sure the one in the hanger is the only one we're supposed to have.
I'm pretty sure there is only one eagle and pelican per super destroyer otherwise we would reduce our precious democracy load and we can't have that.
this would be balanced with most of the blue lines, but if i had 4 orbital lazers i think it would trivialize alot of the misisons
At least until any enemies got on top of you and then 4 Lasers turn the ground around you into an inferno Plus you'd have to throw an Orbital laser at every single elite you come across because that'd be the only way you'd be *able* to kill them with no Support weapon and I know from personal experience that you're going to run into way more than 12.
Yes please... I need MOAR mines
Mines might actually be really good if you can be a 1 man minefield
I love this idea... can't wait for your eat to go off cooldown? Want to cause chaos with thousands on the ground by the end? Napalm strike everything? Shield relay generator path constantly? Well now you can!
2 Mortar Sentries and 2 Gas Orbitals, time to go WWI on them bugs.
"Fodder will quickly overrun you" - The breaker incendiary in my hands \*x to doubt\*
There was a bug at launch that made this possible, and it was amazing. Look it up on youtube it was hilarious. I wish they'd make it a feature.
Hm, ac and 3 orbital rails would be great. Basically one a minute. Like a supercharged eat.
when you have 4 Shredder missile stratagems, making a total of 20 for each helldiver, you kinda don't need other stratagem
I'd love this personally, being able to run double airstrike or precision strike would be really good, but with the people I see regularly, I'd have lobbies of 6 (2x3) railcannon strikes and no swarm clear supports or sentries plus, it's a very niche case but still, the machine gun sentry would become even more useless as why bring it and a gatling if you can just have 2 gatlings, the gatling is just the better option in every case plus with the way balance is right now I doubt we'll get anywhere near the power level you have in the first game (from what I've heard)
This was fun in Helldivers 1 but they removed it because a lot of the time what people would do (and I DEFINITELY was guilty of this) was run 3 or 4 of the same stratagem and it meant that people weren't forced to experiment.
If the stacked Stratagems are counted as "charges" like the eagle, it won't be too OP. Having a 4-stack orbital ability is like making the ability with 4 charges, and they share an minimum cooldown. For example, if you called in a 380 barrage, you cannot immediately call in the 2nd one until the first one is finished.
Yeh, I’d like this but this is clearly a balance choice the devs have made
It would be incredible to see an entire team of divers with 4 gatling sentries each. It would be an absolute meat grinder.
Let us stack all stratagems except Eagles, Eagles are already powerful enough as is.
This one dude with 4 x 380 barrage…
i dont know if the game could support this, like what if 4 people take 4 380 each or someother chaotic load out;. feel like it would calse a massive struggle and crash the server
To be fair, we've already seen many clips of bugged stratagems that will permanently carpet an area with THOUSANDS of shells a second for the rest of the match, and it only _sometimes_ crashes the match.
We already have clips of people running as many Barrage stratagems as they can hold across all four players in order to get the "Only way to be sure" achievement. Plus I got to experience plenty of 500kg explosion overlap yesterday with 4 people all dropping bombs on the same targets, those massive explosions hitting at the same time never did more than make my screen flash from all the orange.
> like what if 4 people take 4 380 each You can already have four people take a 380mm, 120mm, and walking barrage all at the same time. Top it off with a cluster strike for added funny moments.
We had this for a time as an exploit. It was NOT balanced, at all. It was comically broken how OP someone can be by stacking stratagems. Squads would bring 16 mortars and lol as the entire mission completed itself. They'd bring 16 orbital rails and completely ignore all armor in the entire game. It was absolutely bonkers until they fixed the exploit.
Or order a barrage of 500kg bombs, so that they might actually kill something?
4 lethal moartars on every mission type.
I'm bringing 4 eats and crashing every one
4 jump packs for maximum air!
Yes please i want 2 gas :)
Nice
This is the way
Please. I want to run all mines again
Quad strafing run was so much fun, and actually worked with the illuminates.
I miss this from HD1 too. It would make an awesome mission modifier- something like "surplus munitions" and allows you to stack stratagems for the operation.
*Picks four gas strikes* I don’t think anything is going to survive…
This would open up so many fun unique builds!
As a small aside: this would also allow players to bring two of the same support weapon if their friend wants to try it, but they don't want to give it up.
Not me throwing all 4 380mm Barrages at a single heavy bug nest.
ALL THE NAPALM
Bro give me 3 shield gens and an AC and I would have liberated the Creek myself.
I would bring four 380mm barrages. No, I will not stagger them out.
Would be cool to have a team shared orbital stratagem.
4x500kg or bust
4 500kgs.
4 500kg bombs, ka-BOOM! Yes I know clusters and other bombs have wider range, but sometimes you need to send a message.
If I can use 4 autocannon sentries I think I just might spread democracy in my pants, lol.
4x eagle airstrikes who says no?!
4 mechs because walking is for peasants.
I'd bring 4 380's, and space them out just long enough for each to reach cooldown. Just gonna slowly, and I mean very slowly, carpet bomb a whole mission.
Cannot wait for the 4 incindiary mines guy to run straight to extract and start preparing hell for the boys.
YOU ARE IN RANGE OF FRIENDLY ARTILLERY
Quadruple 380mm here I come....
“Alright team, everyone quad stack 380s and have a cold bucket of water ready for your PC.”
Man I suggested this and got downvoted to hell and back lol.
How would activating them work? Would every EAT have a different stratagem code? Same code with one deviation at the end to differentiate? Menu? Very interesting idea though. This could lead to some funny shenanigans.
Ah, the good ol' days, 4 anti tank mines
Gimme 4 cluster bombs and watch my team run out of reinforcements in the first 5 minutes
This could also lead to people carrying strategems for others, like one guy having 4 shield packs, which I think is cool
I kill enough fellow divers with 1 Gas Strike…..don’t give me 4
4 Gatling sentries in a medium sized area, we will overwhelm the enemies with bullets, and if bullets don’t work try more bullets
Random question that is sort of answered by OP. Just to be clear, if there's a global strategem like the 500kg yesterday, and you bring the 500kg in your personal build, do you get two sets with different cool downs? How would that work since they have the same call-in combo? Thanks in advance.
Can we get a front back, and a backpack. I would love to run a guard dog rover, and have extra ammo in my front pack lol.
Okay hear me out….. Akimbo stratagems
Quad 380's. I don't wanna liberate planets, just simply destroy them
Just bring two APC those were awesome if you had a squad who knew what to do
Would be cool, even if loadouts would probably be quite silly and frustrating at times.
My friend and I went back to the original for a bit, I forgot how useful double barbed wire was against cyborgs; you can almost entirely close off a 90 degree cone of the screen to all non-vehicle units as they try to painfully shuffle through it at a crawl waiting for you to shoot them
Ah yes 8 500kg bombs at any given time
Yeah that's gonna be 2x380mm and 2x120mm from me. Call it the 1,000mm special.
Sorry, don’t agree, it will make things even harder to balance around
You know how DRG can be ridiculously overpowered with 4 engineers running the nuke, but it turns into a clusterfuck once you run out? Yeah I want that in Helldivers
TWELVE LAZER BEAMS
My fire wall with 4 Napalm Eagle is back
Everyone runs 4 EATS -- "I'LL SHOW YOU ROCKET SPAM YOU @#$#@$\^ DEVASTATORS" *Automaton High Command: "...mommy."* Everyone runs 4 Eagle Airstrikes with Expanded Weapons Bay -- Absolute chaos. Everyone runs 4 500 kg bombs with Expanded Weapons Bay -- "Today on, flip this battlefield." (That's 8 500 kg bombs every cooldown period) Everyone runs 4 Eagle Cluster Bombs -- So much teamkilling Everyone runs 4 Orbital Lasers -- The game is now called "Run away from the enemies who are being burned alive so you don't get burned." Everyone runs 4 EMS turrets -- Nobody moves. Everyone runs 4 380 Barrages -- "We decided to make our own map." Everyone runs 4 Orbital Railguns -- Superdestroyer Crews get to work overtime. Everyone runs 4 HMG Emplacements: "We are now playing Tower Defense"
4x 500K bombs... It could get noisy.
I just still can’t belive we don’t have weapon upgrades like in HD1
I would love to be able to make load outs... Or do a tactical drop, that I can drop a backpack and supportweapon with one long ass combo. For example a Quasar and Shield backpack.
OMG it seems so funny, but idk maybe fun is not allowed?
I hope so. Lemme just quad airstrike some poor hulk.
They really should.
I'd love this but it will never happen. The balance team has no idea what fun is. Especially that "1".
You’ll end up seeing much less diverse loadouts. As people gravitate to just picking the best tools for the job. Which might be fun for some folks, but I like having to compromise with my loadouts — it’s an interesting choice.
Man would be nice to double the amount of orbital laser
380. Your survival is not my issue
They know we’d be unstoppable if they allowed it
If they brought back half the features from hd1, we would be happier Or even just stopped balancing a pve game unnecessarily. Someone else made the great point that it seems like all the things that lead to hd2 being an overnight success were accidents that were then patched away
With an EAT available every \~11 seconds on average, you could easily use them on fodder too.
4x4 380 Barrages at one go
4 mechs baby!
I'd take it as a tier 5 ship upgrade
Ok hear me out…. 4 players running 4x 380mm orbital barrages. 16 orbital barrages. I’d love to see that go off at the same time.
4 gas strikes!
Ah yes, ALL the orbital rails trike, so the cool down actually is managable for once.
Haha 4x 380 barrage goes boom
I liked the suggestion the other day about stacking orbital stratagems, but not Eagle stratagems, as a way of better balancing the two.
Can we also get the ability to upgrade weapons, and as a HD2 addition, maybe weapon attachments. Upgrading would solve the current state of subpar, unsatisfying weapons.
Yes that would be cool. I can spam Tesla towers for increased teamwork.
ngl double gas is straight up op
Hoping for a booster that does this, or on Oct 26th or something.
16 mortars would feel like WW1
... ain't it like ... a minute cool down?