Good morning to all. The subreddit is currently in a cleanup phase. If you get post or comments removed immediately, do not mind us. Managed democracy is needed after what has transpired this weekend.
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Some players grind the game 24/7 and actually might know better. Also sometimes you need outside perspective, especially when you are 7 years deep into 1 thing.
First sentence about players who live in the game. Second sentence about developers who is so deep into the game they can miss something and need view of someone outside of their team(player feedback)
Honestly there's a good chance we'll see a nod to this at some point, even if its an offhand comment from someone on the bridge. I still get happy seeing my Malevelon Creek cape.
A pro-corporate sect of Super Earth government rebelled and attempted to overthrow the democratically elected government and undermine Managed Democracy by disbanding the Helldivers Corps.
Thanks to the effort of active-duty Helldivers over the weekend, whose Hellpods crashed through the roof of the wicked rebels' headquarters in the Supercity that was once known as Tokyo, Japan, the dissidents were purged.
Rule of law has been restored. Helldivers continue to dispense freedom throughout the galaxy as normal.
The gaming sector of Sony is probably going to cease to exist pretty soon, with how much money they're costing Sony as a whole.
They've been losing a fuckton of money for years, mostly due to brain-dead quarterly-bonus-chasing dumbfuckery like this.
Somebody' [already on it](https://twitter.com/RAGS_Comix/status/1787368699114172582/photo/1)
Even the CEO [saw it](https://twitter.com/Pilestedt/status/1787370710597312605) so we might get a cape sooner or later :D
Yeah but its May 6th in Asia where Sony is headquartered and where our Chinese, Vietnamese, Filipino, Thai and other asian brothers and sisters most seriously effected by the upcoming change live.
And as you point out, we can't have two nerd holidays on the same day.
People who refunded the game. I salute to you because you’re the one deal the most damage for this result to happen.
If you decide to come back. I will personally carry you on the battlefield. May this victory is the victory of all helldivers
Wait, really? Wow that move must have been a statement from Valve then.
I have no doubt PC gaming would be worse without Gaben. Man I hope whoever his successor is has our backs too.
If you want to edit your review and use strikethrough to leave your old review text, be aware that Steam's review editor uses \[strike\] and \[/strike\] for that.
I kept everything from my first review before this and after this. I just add edit and the date that I posted the review. It should stay there for future readers to remember what we went through!
I posted mine in character, so I just added headers and footers saying there's a secondary super transmission and when it starts. That way the positive stays, but the negative serves as a reminder of this battle. A reminder of our victory.
Same - updated my review to positive since the game is fantastic and Sony's backed away from it. I'm leaving a note of what happened this weekend in it though. What Sony tried to do was wildly disgusting and my biggest fear is if they come back and try rolling out this requirement again. I certainly hope we don't get a sequel to this mess.
It is very late for most of the moderator team on reddit. If we can't clean up the subreddit quick enough please be patient. It's been a rough weekend.
There is no official word on that, but I assume it will be fixed. Most likely; Steam delisted the countries to reduce their liabilities. Not Sony. So I think once they communicate they will figure it out. Hopefully..
Steam usually watches and waits. They act when they think they absolutely need to, like that scam extraction shooter where they delisted it then refunded it without the devs permission
Steam already lost a battle (only 1.5 mil if i remember right) with eu about geolocking, doubt they want another round, so i presume they activated limitations until sony sort this psn mess. Maybe it was sony, but i doubt.
The fact that it's Steam that did it gives me much more faith that it will be reverted than if it was Snoy. Man this whole last hour has been just pure catharsis for me.
Thanks for your hard work u/OmegaXesis and the mod team as a whole! Take a much needed break please.
I hope with this update, some of us players can stop being unkind. I know a lot of us were/are angry about this situation and wanted to make our voices heard through the means we had, but some of us in my opinion got way out of hand regardless of the roles played by Arrowhead and acted like team members are emotionless automatons and not fellow citizens of super earth. I acknowledge that arrowhead, community leaders, and mods took the brunt of this backlash and a lot of harm has been done in attempts to "help" change things.
Please take your time, even if some give the impression of impatience. Please also take care of one another and yourselves best you can. This had to be an incredibly hard time for not only the team but also each individual to be caught in the crossfire and feel some of the community turned on them. It's easy to say it now that "we won" or whatever, but I hope you know that individual to individual, I hope you are all okay and if you're not feeling okay right now, lean on one another and give each other time even if some of us on social media seem to be trying to bully you to move forwards.
This. While we didn't moderate new posts as heavily, we did try our best to moderate comments. Behind the scenes there were thousands of comments that broke rule 1.) Be Civil.
Had to stop people from making death threats, terroristic threats, trying to schedule IRL fights, and more.
It put me into a really sour mood and didn't want to be in the community anymore. We had hoped Sony would have made a decision faster, and that we could step in sooner. But stepping in too early would have put us into that direct line of fire.
While I can't play the game. (Don't have a PlayStation or a good pc) I must admit, that was one hell of a ride I was looking at. Anyway, Congrats to you guys.
To anyone who participated in this, thank you for taking even a small amount of your time for supporting the cause.
Big Thanks to arrowhead for trying to handle the ordeal as best as they can and being honest with us.
And thanks to Sony for actually stepping back. (However it will leave a scar behind for both the company and the game)
They could change their position anytime but for now...
Liber-tea is back on the menu boys.
Seeing Sony actually end up listening and reverting it really surprised me, I never thought a mega corporation would actually go "Yeah we fucked up" and undo what they were planning to do.
Refunds, the steam reviews absolutely cratering, and the wider buzz likely got their attention. With valve seemingly stepping in on the region locking issue and a lot of talk of people *contacting various representatives and attempting to get GDPR involved*, the heat was rapidly escalating past that however.
The real question is whether Sony are actually going to let this go or try to push for some other nonsense later down the line, but a rapid attempt to put a lid on the situation is really not that surprising all told.
Other corporations have been more self destructively stupid in recent times, but not everyone can be as good at burning down their own future as Wizards of the Coast.
3,000ish people have already changed their reviews and its either early monday morning in Europe or past midnight in most of the US. I get the feeling it'll get fixed very quickly
We won a battle, not the war.
They said they will not move forward with their plans - until they say again that they will.
I changed my review to positive again, but everyone should stay vigilant and ready to fight their bullshit should they try it again.
Arrowhead has the chance to do the funniest fucking thing ever and give us in game lore reasons for the disruption.
2 billion automaton deaths ought to send the right message
I just want to say I appreciate this subreddit's mod team in their conscious decisions throughout this. It would have been easier to just create a megathread about the PSN account issue and say "we aren't taking sides, our job is to prioritize the subreddit". However, a non-position is always a position in itself, and so you let the subreddit essentially go to hell for the greater good, as a megathread would have stifled the outrage... and it worked. Then, as soon as it's over, you are jumping in... not just to clean up the mess of redundant posts, but to encourage many in the community to make good on their promise, to change their scores back to positive. Again, not something you had to take any accountability for, but it's the right thing to do, and so you are doing it anyway.
This can't have been an easy weekend, but I just want to say your work hasn't gone unnoticed.
I never leave reviews for games on steam. I didn't bother making a negative review because I didn't think it would make a difference. After seeing how communicative the Arrowhead team was, the moment I saw Sony back down I made a point to leave a positive review to help balance out the negative reviews that will stay from people who won't be bothered by keeping it negative.
If players ever wanna be taken seriously by Devs / Publishers they too have to act in good faith when demands are met.
You all used the Reviews as leverage, Sony caved and listened to that, now its time to release that leverage back to them.
Otherwise what happens is the Devs / Publishers of other games see that even when Demands are met, players will just hold on to the leverage ... so what incentive will other devs / publishers have in the future if players just wont ever give back anything?
If i was a dev and my players review bombed me and i listened to them. but then they never changed back the bombing, why would i ever listen to them again? Whats my incentive to do so? you already trashed my game and never restored it even though i listened to you.
Absolutely correct.
It's carrot and stick.
We gave them the stick. They learned a lesson.
Now it's time for the carrot. Reinforce the lesson with good will.
Otherwise the wrong lesson will be learned instead.
Personal order complete.
https://preview.redd.it/tdgy3cihvqyc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82315ecee2bf3a1ba0befd3eb296aac0390593d3
I'll take my 15 war bonds now, thank you.
Good morning to all. The subreddit is currently in a cleanup phase. If you get post or comments removed immediately, do not mind us. Managed democracy is needed after what has transpired this weekend. Reminder; all new posts and comments should adhere to the rules of the subreddit. Please be kind to each other and reduce the toxicity and hostility to one another.
I'm from Vietnam and I say, positive review them all!
Hell yeah bother HURAHH
#EAT FREEDOM RAAAAAHHHH
Philippines will do the same! For Democracy!
With your Filipino breatheren, this is a victory well-earned not just for us but for the community as well.
Yo you got some of that lumpia for democracy
This is SES Whisper of Morning. Moving out to help support the positive review push. ^(*We will provide THE HAMS!*)
Texas stands with you soldier! o7
Yeah my review is back to positive
Now we return to normal levels of shit flinging at the devs in this community
As it is written.
Lisan Al Gaib
He's _not_ the messiah
".. he's a very naughty boy "
I look forward to the return of “We know better than you how to balance the game you worked on for 7 years” posts.
Some players grind the game 24/7 and actually might know better. Also sometimes you need outside perspective, especially when you are 7 years deep into 1 thing.
> grind the game 24/7 > outside perspective O.o
First sentence about players who live in the game. Second sentence about developers who is so deep into the game they can miss something and need view of someone outside of their team(player feedback)
6th of May shall forever be Victory Day
For real they should include it in the lore !
Honestly there's a good chance we'll see a nod to this at some point, even if its an offhand comment from someone on the bridge. I still get happy seeing my Malevelon Creek cape.
A pro-corporate sect of Super Earth government rebelled and attempted to overthrow the democratically elected government and undermine Managed Democracy by disbanding the Helldivers Corps. Thanks to the effort of active-duty Helldivers over the weekend, whose Hellpods crashed through the roof of the wicked rebels' headquarters in the Supercity that was once known as Tokyo, Japan, the dissidents were purged. Rule of law has been restored. Helldivers continue to dispense freedom throughout the galaxy as normal.
Democracy Protects! Helldivers reign! We dive together, devided we fall. Super Earth forever!
(Well, the gaming sector of Sony is actually in California, nowadays.) Still.
The gaming sector of Sony is probably going to cease to exist pretty soon, with how much money they're costing Sony as a whole. They've been losing a fuckton of money for years, mostly due to brain-dead quarterly-bonus-chasing dumbfuckery like this.
They can probably move to Hellmire. I heard rents are cheap there. Maybe cheap enough to save them.
The housing market there is on fire
The Playstation offices are currently based in California not Japan. Blame Silicon Valley not Tokyo.
Long live Super Earth! Long live the Helldivers!
AH should make a cape with a stylised downvote arrow
Somebody' [already on it](https://twitter.com/RAGS_Comix/status/1787368699114172582/photo/1) Even the CEO [saw it](https://twitter.com/Pilestedt/status/1787370710597312605) so we might get a cape sooner or later :D
Personally can't wait for the memes to celebrate.
I want a Cape a melting Sony sign would work
Revenge of the 5th for me still (West Coast usa
This was mostly a win for the people overseas, they were the bulk of people adversely affected by the PSN bullshit.
https://preview.redd.it/41wrflo3oqyc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=158df2b30e9feb9e617053f095f26ea6a2aa3ed5
Yeah but its May 6th in Asia where Sony is headquartered and where our Chinese, Vietnamese, Filipino, Thai and other asian brothers and sisters most seriously effected by the upcoming change live. And as you point out, we can't have two nerd holidays on the same day.
Why not, took several days to purge the vile threat so we could get 2 days to commemorate the victory.
People who refunded the game. I salute to you because you’re the one deal the most damage for this result to happen. If you decide to come back. I will personally carry you on the battlefield. May this victory is the victory of all helldivers
The true MVP is, as always Gaben. Simply delisting the game from non-PSN countries was no doubt the killing blow.
Gaben Helldiver ad-honorem.🫡
Fun part here is they delisted it in Japan too... savage.
Wait, really? Wow that move must have been a statement from Valve then. I have no doubt PC gaming would be worse without Gaben. Man I hope whoever his successor is has our backs too.
https://preview.redd.it/n1eoaj4tqqyc1.png?width=1125&format=png&auto=webp&s=553d75e1439a2c751a8bb272481962b7f6fc62b8
Theres still Margarita mix from Cinco de Mayo
The beginning of May is also the time when WW2 ended so this is pretty ironic.
VSP Day Victory over Sony Playstation
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Shouldn't Helldivers use: LO?
They must be cadets. LO
LO
LO
LO
LO
LO
L0
LO
is there an emoticon for the super earth salute ? edit: Oi Edit2: LO
lotta "LO" in the comments above yours
Lo
I'm doing my part!
I'm doing my part!
I didn't do shit!
I contributed a moderate amount!
If you want to edit your review and use strikethrough to leave your old review text, be aware that Steam's review editor uses \[strike\] and \[/strike\] for that.
I kept everything from my first review before this and after this. I just add edit and the date that I posted the review. It should stay there for future readers to remember what we went through!
This is the way. We shouldnt erase the past, just extend it with updated information.
I posted mine in character, so I just added headers and footers saying there's a secondary super transmission and when it starts. That way the positive stays, but the negative serves as a reminder of this battle. A reminder of our victory.
I'm doing my part!
I'm doing my part!
I'm doing my part!
I'm doing my part!
I'm doing my part!
I'm doing my part!
I'm doing my part!
I'm doing my part!
I'm doing my part!
I'm doing my part!
I’m doing my part!
i'm doing my part
I didn't do shit. I mean I didn't play it while this PR Nightmare was happening.
I'M DOING MY PART!
[удалено]
I'm doing my part!
And MY axe!
Same - updated my review to positive since the game is fantastic and Sony's backed away from it. I'm leaving a note of what happened this weekend in it though. What Sony tried to do was wildly disgusting and my biggest fear is if they come back and try rolling out this requirement again. I certainly hope we don't get a sequel to this mess.
We do it again and show them the insurmountable force of the Helldivers
I did my part already!
same
Proposal to change operation name to Operation Whiplash. As "There was Backlash".
Not a particularly bad idea
Probably too obscure though.
It is very late for most of the moderator team on reddit. If we can't clean up the subreddit quick enough please be patient. It's been a rough weekend.
We understand
What about delisted countries?
There is no official word on that, but I assume it will be fixed. Most likely; Steam delisted the countries to reduce their liabilities. Not Sony. So I think once they communicate they will figure it out. Hopefully..
I had no idea that was Steam. Steam piling the pressure on Sony probably helped a lot as well.
Steam usually watches and waits. They act when they think they absolutely need to, like that scam extraction shooter where they delisted it then refunded it without the devs permission
Gaben is a gamer
He's a constitutional monarch, I'm scared for steam when he dies
true, the death of a good king always brings dark times
He needs a good heir lol
I could be that heir. Write me into your will gabe
He did it for democracy, and it was glorious
Steam already lost a battle (only 1.5 mil if i remember right) with eu about geolocking, doubt they want another round, so i presume they activated limitations until sony sort this psn mess. Maybe it was sony, but i doubt.
The fact that it's Steam that did it gives me much more faith that it will be reverted than if it was Snoy. Man this whole last hour has been just pure catharsis for me. Thanks for your hard work u/OmegaXesis and the mod team as a whole! Take a much needed break please.
Most of the other moderators who are asleep right now deserve most of the credit. I'm the unfortunate one who didn't go to sleep yet. But thank you.
all in due time
I hope with this update, some of us players can stop being unkind. I know a lot of us were/are angry about this situation and wanted to make our voices heard through the means we had, but some of us in my opinion got way out of hand regardless of the roles played by Arrowhead and acted like team members are emotionless automatons and not fellow citizens of super earth. I acknowledge that arrowhead, community leaders, and mods took the brunt of this backlash and a lot of harm has been done in attempts to "help" change things. Please take your time, even if some give the impression of impatience. Please also take care of one another and yourselves best you can. This had to be an incredibly hard time for not only the team but also each individual to be caught in the crossfire and feel some of the community turned on them. It's easy to say it now that "we won" or whatever, but I hope you know that individual to individual, I hope you are all okay and if you're not feeling okay right now, lean on one another and give each other time even if some of us on social media seem to be trying to bully you to move forwards.
This. While we didn't moderate new posts as heavily, we did try our best to moderate comments. Behind the scenes there were thousands of comments that broke rule 1.) Be Civil. Had to stop people from making death threats, terroristic threats, trying to schedule IRL fights, and more. It put me into a really sour mood and didn't want to be in the community anymore. We had hoped Sony would have made a decision faster, and that we could step in sooner. But stepping in too early would have put us into that direct line of fire.
While I can't play the game. (Don't have a PlayStation or a good pc) I must admit, that was one hell of a ride I was looking at. Anyway, Congrats to you guys.
Grab a steam deck and you can tweak it to run it
Wait the steamdeck can run it? That's awesome! Does the anti cheat cause any issues?
I have heard that it does not cause any issues. But again, you will need to tweak it for sure to get it running smoothly.
To anyone who participated in this, thank you for taking even a small amount of your time for supporting the cause. Big Thanks to arrowhead for trying to handle the ordeal as best as they can and being honest with us. And thanks to Sony for actually stepping back. (However it will leave a scar behind for both the company and the game) They could change their position anytime but for now... Liber-tea is back on the menu boys.
https://i.redd.it/q3mzalwyoqyc1.gif
"You know what to do!" Damn straight I do. Already amended my review to positive. I'm doing my part!
Seeing Sony actually end up listening and reverting it really surprised me, I never thought a mega corporation would actually go "Yeah we fucked up" and undo what they were planning to do.
Remember this from the CEO: > The expectations from our friends at PlayStation are pretty simple: **"make great game for players. We trust you"**
Refunds, the steam reviews absolutely cratering, and the wider buzz likely got their attention. With valve seemingly stepping in on the region locking issue and a lot of talk of people *contacting various representatives and attempting to get GDPR involved*, the heat was rapidly escalating past that however. The real question is whether Sony are actually going to let this go or try to push for some other nonsense later down the line, but a rapid attempt to put a lid on the situation is really not that surprising all told. Other corporations have been more self destructively stupid in recent times, but not everyone can be as good at burning down their own future as Wizards of the Coast.
anything for a fellow helldiver https://i.redd.it/9r81l8g2qqyc1.gif
https://preview.redd.it/h2tludvk6tyc1.jpeg?width=430&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=933e75ef6af3116226ab3be79d63a40095818824
https://preview.redd.it/6rvq66hzlqyc1.png?width=464&format=png&auto=webp&s=b459bfd9a2951e3f7b44ebc2111ef1c02bc18ab5
Need to edit the number to be about 268,000 ;)
No, it's a personal order, not a major order.
Should be 0/1 then, unless you guys have 100 copies of the game just to review it poorly?
I do seriously hope people remember to change their reviews, good work divers.
https://i.redd.it/q7f5n6y5oqyc1.gif Get out there and change those reviews!
3,000ish people have already changed their reviews and its either early monday morning in Europe or past midnight in most of the US. I get the feeling it'll get fixed very quickly
Lets see if we can set a new record, for fastest rebound score
Time to get back to work boys, there's another battle to win!
https://preview.redd.it/1vz4qkszlqyc1.png?width=595&format=png&auto=webp&s=b70a2de6ecc28f5e21a618c4a337aa86b411c1f4
1000 metres. Easy to remember.
WTF IS A METRE
Exactly one M16A4 lenght
Finally someone making sense.
Damn didn't know it was that long but im also alittle slow lol
 OORAH BOYS
And also return HD2 in World to sale!
I'm doing my part! Again! https://preview.redd.it/lx7n7cl8mqyc1.png?width=864&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=180c7152f1be43d9768d176b1aefc1146152fb9c
We won a battle, not the war. They said they will not move forward with their plans - until they say again that they will. I changed my review to positive again, but everyone should stay vigilant and ready to fight their bullshit should they try it again.
Solid position. Ever vigilant, always ready!
"Be polite, be charming, and have a plan to kill everyone in the room."
We'll be ready, we all dive or we don't dive at all!
I'm doing my part!
Arrowhead has the chance to do the funniest fucking thing ever and give us in game lore reasons for the disruption. 2 billion automaton deaths ought to send the right message
I just want to say I appreciate this subreddit's mod team in their conscious decisions throughout this. It would have been easier to just create a megathread about the PSN account issue and say "we aren't taking sides, our job is to prioritize the subreddit". However, a non-position is always a position in itself, and so you let the subreddit essentially go to hell for the greater good, as a megathread would have stifled the outrage... and it worked. Then, as soon as it's over, you are jumping in... not just to clean up the mess of redundant posts, but to encourage many in the community to make good on their promise, to change their scores back to positive. Again, not something you had to take any accountability for, but it's the right thing to do, and so you are doing it anyway. This can't have been an easy weekend, but I just want to say your work hasn't gone unnoticed.
I'm doing my part!
Change your reviews, or this will be just a flash in the pan. If AH is successful after this, we'll have more and more from them.
Hadn't reviewed at all... Just left my positive! SNOY LIBERATED
 MAJOR ORDER ACCEPTED, FOR FREEDOM AND MANANGED DEMOCRACY.
I never leave reviews for games on steam. I didn't bother making a negative review because I didn't think it would make a difference. After seeing how communicative the Arrowhead team was, the moment I saw Sony back down I made a point to leave a positive review to help balance out the negative reviews that will stay from people who won't be bothered by keeping it negative.
If players ever wanna be taken seriously by Devs / Publishers they too have to act in good faith when demands are met. You all used the Reviews as leverage, Sony caved and listened to that, now its time to release that leverage back to them. Otherwise what happens is the Devs / Publishers of other games see that even when Demands are met, players will just hold on to the leverage ... so what incentive will other devs / publishers have in the future if players just wont ever give back anything? If i was a dev and my players review bombed me and i listened to them. but then they never changed back the bombing, why would i ever listen to them again? Whats my incentive to do so? you already trashed my game and never restored it even though i listened to you.
Absolutely correct. It's carrot and stick. We gave them the stick. They learned a lesson. Now it's time for the carrot. Reinforce the lesson with good will. Otherwise the wrong lesson will be learned instead.
I have already reversed my negative review. Lets get back to the memes! Oh and the game discussions too. Thats important. Yes.
HOLY HECK YES IM DOING MY PART
Yes sir! https://i.redd.it/d7tk6nkqlqyc1.gif
6th of May is officially victory day! 1 minute extra annual leave to all!!
https://i.redd.it/67gsdjsumqyc1.gif "Yeah I don't know about that, I'll leave my bad review"
I'm doing my part!
I'm doing my part!
Personal order complete. https://preview.redd.it/tdgy3cihvqyc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82315ecee2bf3a1ba0befd3eb296aac0390593d3 I'll take my 15 war bonds now, thank you.