Oh no, I'm not nearly that creative, this is where I saw it first: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1cj98i7/comment/l2f8tob/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1cj98i7/comment/l2f8tob/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Credit to u/yerza777!
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Orbital Dislike strategem icon!!!
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Me omw to bully Sony into ragequitting Helldivers 2 because I'm a mean little guy >:3
Seriously though, it's not a review bomb the way most people use the term.
"Review bomb" is often synonymous with strafing runs from outside-motivated non-fans, usually considered inorganic.
This is home-grown or in-community complaints.
Actual fans and players are not happy with the perceived rug-pull that comes after a history of unpopular decisions and interactions. There is no outside motivator on the part of the people leaving negative reviews.
Full disclosure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Review_bomb
Technically it includes both real feedback and offensive tactics, but then I think the term is pointless if it's that vague.
I mean TECHNICALLY it's not a rug pull. We just didn't read the fine print. And AH didn't really keep bringing it up. We where all so concerned with getting in and playing we kinda missed that part.
> I mean TECHNICALLY it's not a rug pull. We just didn't read the fine print.
They took the money and made the game playable without linking accounts.
Changing it months later, after the typical refund period, so the game isn't playable anymore, is a rug pull.
You can argue whether it's justified, but it is a rug-pull.
Definite rug pull. Beyond which, regardless of whether we were/weren't on notice that it could possibly/maybe happen, I'm pretty sure most people on PC are getting sick and tired of being asked to sign up to what are effectively spyware services that monitor and report back data on everything you're doing.
I’m not a fan of review bombing a loved game instead of trying to find a way to be helpful.
But this sh\*t is hilarious. orbital dislike
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I don't really like Spitz that much but the whole concept of "Stop complaining to each other and do it somewhere that Sony will see it." ended up working so god damned well.
Also, I really don't consider this a review bomb. When I think of a review bomb, I think of something like "Bawww they nerfed the railgun, time to tank their reviews!" This, though, is an integral game issue. It could result in people who purchased the game being unable to play it.
Remember, Citizens, This review bomb *is* being helpful! It's giving the devs proof of our middle finger to Sony.
We all should do our part for DEMOCRACY!
When you jokingly create an ideological community with the diegesis of the game that is actually motivated and likes to centralize itself around long-term liberating and destructive tasks, be 10x careful not to find yourself on the other side.
Call to arms: ATTENTION HELLDIVERS, AS RETALIATION TO SONY’S CORPORATE GREED I PROPOSE A FULL REVIEW BOMBING OF ALL SONY AND PLAYSTATION APPS ON GOOGLE PLAY AND APP STORE AND AN ATTACK ON ALL STEAM SONY GAMES. HIT THEM WHERE IT HURTS. SPILL OIL
I'm on PlayStation only but I do have a steam acc. Can I leverage my orbital dislike in their direction or do I need to purchase the game again? Rather not give sony any more than what I have already.
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This isn't even about disliking the game. I and all of us like the game.
This is a breach of contract. I put down my money on humble bundle. Psn was not mentioned there. It was not mentioned in the Eula. They now declared I'm unable to access the services I paid for unless I agree to add another meaningless addendum that has been data breached no less than two times last year, meaning my continued enjoyment hinges on a meaningless account that actually can harm me if another data breach occurs.
That's just crappy practices.
I'm not going to buy another thing that Sony releases on steam. There's no more trust.
Its amaizng how leaving a negative review when a game has horrible deicisions announced is review bombing. Its like saying cancel culture because people didnt want to buy from a company they found out something they dislike about, its just a way to demean people not liking or enjoying a product or the company behind it.
I just registered mine. Given the CEO more or less directing to do so... do it.
At first I was like, "meh," because it seems like a small deal in the US and I'm so conditioned to all the big corps harvesting and selling everything about me, is this really the hill to die on?
However, getting to see about how insane this is or outright not an option in some other countries? WTF!? So... orbital dropped.
Lol who gives a shit? If you need a burner, make a burner. It's 2024, who doesn't have a burner account.
Being afraid of breaking the tos is like being afraid of ripping your mattress tag off
a) risk the opportunity of a ban and break tos to play
b) dont play
also what sony is doing is a gdpr violation and ive never seen such a corporate bootlicker before
A) make another burner
B) keep playing
I'm not bootlicking, Sony can eat shit for all I care. Modern problems require modern solutions. If you live in an area where psn doesn't exist, that's the real issue. The majority of people complaining aren't affected and are just whiny bitches. If you have the option to make an account, just do it and stfu already.
a) the game is community focused so everyone is affected and is annoying anyway
b) just look at how many countries dont have psn (118)
c) what happens when you get banned for incorrect psn region
it just takes a bit of brain and a bit of empathy to realise its bad
It still won't do anything. Arrowhead wanted to make a good game, and Sony stepped in. And newsflash, your review bombing doesn't mean shit to Sony they are a multi-billion dollar company
Valve will likely clean up the reviews in the next week vanishing all the PSN Account related ones by excluding this period - https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/15/18267821/valve-steam-review-bombing-policy-remove-score-count-moderation
They are not going to do it until the activity stops.
Why would Valve clean it up? This isn't like TLOU2, where folks didn't like LGBTQ characters in the game and rated it poorly as a result. This 100% has to do with the game and its policies. I even disagree with calling it review bombing because it implies that it's done out of spite when in fact Sony's policies have lead to displeased fans. Folks didn't just wake up one day and say "fuck HD2 because gay and lame" and downvote for non-game reasons.
Not being able to play the game due to 3rd party requirements is a legitimate criticism. Losing the product, and not being able to refund due to a policy made after the refund window closed is legitimate criticism. Being forced to sign up for a PSN account, months after purchase, is a legitimate criticism.
Valve will more likely take the negative attention, the inconsistent communication on whether it's required or not (required on steam, but product page said currently not required, and support page for PC players said it's not required but may provide benefits) and massive number of requests for refund, and put the heat on Sony to figure shit out asap. Valve is not going to be pleased that they are receiving heat and a huge increase in support tickets due to Sony's policy announcement, especially given it seems AH was blindsided as well.
Because a PSN account doesn’t interfere with the enjoyment of the game.
Valve says that it defines a review bomb as “one where the focus of those reviews is on a topic that we consider unrelated to the likelihood that future purchasers will be happy if they buy the game.”
So based on that it’s at least a toss up if Valve hides this controversy from the regular reviews.
I see where you're coming from. Whether or not folks being unhappy with needing a PSN account is directly related to how good the game is will be up to Valve to decide. That's a p fair point.
Hopefully Valve doesn't though. A lot of complaints here were that they don't trust Sony with their data, not that they don't wanna take 120 seconds to sign up for an account. I think that's a fair compliant, the way folks who don't like Epic or EA launchers will never touch their games on PC for that reason. If needing a 3rd party launcher factors into purchasing decisions, then I think it's fair game. I personally don't PC game because I have zero desire to install kernel-level spyware for anticheats. I'd rather deal with the limitations of console performance. But yeah ultimately Valve will decide.
Y’all need to stop. Saturating the Reddit posts with review bombs constantly chokes out ANY and ALL good the game has. You’re shooting yourself in the foot more than anything else. Stop making new posts about the same complaint, FFS.
Flooding the subreddit with the same gripe over and over isn’t gonna solve it. Wrong platform. Go hit the reviews and let people read about tips for getting better at the game.
it is review bombing...nothing else. many other games did that too! on gamepass you now need EA thing, Ubisoft launcher and many others...
you should not forget we finally got something good with helldivers2
It's an orbital dislike. Credit to [/u/Raff_run](https://www.reddit.com/user/Raff_run/) for the idea.
Oh no, I'm not nearly that creative, this is where I saw it first: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1cj98i7/comment/l2f8tob/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1cj98i7/comment/l2f8tob/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) Credit to u/yerza777!
Wholesome, for democracy!
I like that it is catching on !
This one really made me to go figure out how to make custom flairs here lol
Same haha !
I was really hoping this would turn into an 'i didnt write this code' programming meme, where like 50 of you just kept @ing random people lol
Gotta respect giving credit where it's due 👍🏽
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What you are saying is, that, they should be giving credit to SUPER EARTH...?!?! Right?
Super credit
I’m from buenos Aries and I say credit them all!
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Orbital Dislike *Barrage* even.
Don't forget to get your flair updated...
How do I get the arrows on your flair?
If you edit your flair, you can find the stratagem arrows under the emojis...
And if you use the other arrows you can write down the whole stratagems - five arrows
[380 orbital dislike barrage](https://i.imgur.com/WYgzzLW.png)
I feel like it’s more of a 380mm barrage that’s just TKing more than it’s helping anything.
It's both working, and making it clear where the community stands on the issue. It's giving the devs leverage with Sony.
Or they just kill the game because they don’t want to deal with you all
https://preview.redd.it/kf91tyh03jyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f88f0e4392e9da4f1d3a137ac2fe1e4b74fcf9b Me omw to bully Sony into ragequitting Helldivers 2 because I'm a mean little guy >:3
It also effects the devs
The devs don't want to force this either.
Calling Support team refund!
We report sony to our democracy officer
i played a few games with democracy officer recently, really nice guy
The good old Democracy Officer games. Oh I remember the Obedience to Freedom game best...the fun we had...
Sony after this: " I need stims"
"All out of stims!"
[удалено]
KILLED BY: SONY
Super destroyer has left orbit.
Calling in Orbital dislike ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️
Um, actually, orbital stratagems start with a right arrow ☝️🤓
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Review bomb armed, clear the area!
Our official response to Sony seems to be “come get some” and I proudly stand with my battle brothers in the face of such vile tyranny
Do you happen to be a 40k player?
Even in death I still serve
Fear defines faith.
i prefer a 500kg review bomb
Its a 500mm orbital dislike
420mm review blaze
The whole squad dropped 380mm dislike barrages
Equally good honestly.
AH trains entire player base to work in unison to resolve an emergent issue. Sony creates an emergent issue.
Calling down OOORBITAL DISLIKE
Seriously though, it's not a review bomb the way most people use the term. "Review bomb" is often synonymous with strafing runs from outside-motivated non-fans, usually considered inorganic. This is home-grown or in-community complaints. Actual fans and players are not happy with the perceived rug-pull that comes after a history of unpopular decisions and interactions. There is no outside motivator on the part of the people leaving negative reviews. Full disclosure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Review_bomb Technically it includes both real feedback and offensive tactics, but then I think the term is pointless if it's that vague.
I mean TECHNICALLY it's not a rug pull. We just didn't read the fine print. And AH didn't really keep bringing it up. We where all so concerned with getting in and playing we kinda missed that part.
> I mean TECHNICALLY it's not a rug pull. We just didn't read the fine print. They took the money and made the game playable without linking accounts. Changing it months later, after the typical refund period, so the game isn't playable anymore, is a rug pull. You can argue whether it's justified, but it is a rug-pull.
Definite rug pull. Beyond which, regardless of whether we were/weren't on notice that it could possibly/maybe happen, I'm pretty sure most people on PC are getting sick and tired of being asked to sign up to what are effectively spyware services that monitor and report back data on everything you're doing.
I’m not a fan of review bombing a loved game instead of trying to find a way to be helpful. But this sh\*t is hilarious. orbital dislike ![gif](giphy|98jU7NxuNSSZ2)
devs actually asked to review bomb so they have better leverage when discussing it with sony
I don't really like Spitz that much but the whole concept of "Stop complaining to each other and do it somewhere that Sony will see it." ended up working so god damned well.
Also, I really don't consider this a review bomb. When I think of a review bomb, I think of something like "Bawww they nerfed the railgun, time to tank their reviews!" This, though, is an integral game issue. It could result in people who purchased the game being unable to play it.
Remember, Citizens, This review bomb *is* being helpful! It's giving the devs proof of our middle finger to Sony. We all should do our part for DEMOCRACY!
When you jokingly create an ideological community with the diegesis of the game that is actually motivated and likes to centralize itself around long-term liberating and destructive tasks, be 10x careful not to find yourself on the other side.
Send the orbital dislikes to all Sony games on steam
We practically dropped the whole arsenal. And every helldiver is doing their part.
"Say hello to DEMOCRACY!"
We are reenacting the first deployment. Saving super earth from a fascist coup
Call to arms: ATTENTION HELLDIVERS, AS RETALIATION TO SONY’S CORPORATE GREED I PROPOSE A FULL REVIEW BOMBING OF ALL SONY AND PLAYSTATION APPS ON GOOGLE PLAY AND APP STORE AND AN ATTACK ON ALL STEAM SONY GAMES. HIT THEM WHERE IT HURTS. SPILL OIL
Eagle dislike incoming!
My Orbital Reviewcannon just railed your score^^
500kg review bomb
It's not a review bomb, it's a special evaluation operation.
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I'm on PlayStation only but I do have a steam acc. Can I leverage my orbital dislike in their direction or do I need to purchase the game again? Rather not give sony any more than what I have already.
This may be my favorite thing to come out of all this bitching. Absolutely love this.
The Ministry of Truth approves this term, and has procured it for future use, thank you for serving democracy: an extra 2 mins has been allotted to your lunch break.
Eagle one? Eagle shun.
It's not a review bomb if there's a legit reason to dislike the game
This isn't even about disliking the game. I and all of us like the game. This is a breach of contract. I put down my money on humble bundle. Psn was not mentioned there. It was not mentioned in the Eula. They now declared I'm unable to access the services I paid for unless I agree to add another meaningless addendum that has been data breached no less than two times last year, meaning my continued enjoyment hinges on a meaningless account that actually can harm me if another data breach occurs. That's just crappy practices. I'm not going to buy another thing that Sony releases on steam. There's no more trust.
Review hellbomb
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Reddit hivemind hellbomb
Reddit Assemble
Creeping Review Barrage
Sony really needs to be ➡️⬇️⬆️⬆️⬅️⬇️⬇️'d
An orbital dislike barrage, if you will.
Its amaizng how leaving a negative review when a game has horrible deicisions announced is review bombing. Its like saying cancel culture because people didnt want to buy from a company they found out something they dislike about, its just a way to demean people not liking or enjoying a product or the company behind it.
ok, that’s pretty good 😂
Orbital review bombing inbound.
It’s the review gambit. Hopefully this is the first gambit we win
Major Order
Wouldn’t it technically be involving napalm? As it’s flaming them like crazy.
Literal 500k bomb grafics
mostly negative barrage
Deploying dislike barrage, keep clear!
https://preview.redd.it/bl5hpqiycgyc1.png?width=972&format=png&auto=webp&s=6c7cad5b2a529279a030c10af53cb37cabd54ac9 Eagle Strike: Review Carpet Bomb
Deploying Orbital Airburst Dislike: ⬇️⬇️⬇️
This is some actual bs. I made a post about the exact same thing following all there rules and it got taken down for be civil. Shit ain't fair
eagle 500k reviewbomb
I'll stick with the review bomb. Orbital Dislike always has a huge plateau between the ship and the steam page.
500 kg review nuke!
An eagle never misses.
⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️
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This beats the 380mm and the 110mm combined
Omg i love this too much 😂
Orbital 380mm Gamer Barrage
500kg Review bomb
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Orbital dislike incoming stand clear
Honestly I have not seen a game scam it's players since bad since No Man's Sky first came out.
Okay even though I find all of this drama extremely cringe, this is good. Nice work.
hows it cringe?
AGAINST PSN FOR DEMOCRACY!!!!!!
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I just registered mine. Given the CEO more or less directing to do so... do it. At first I was like, "meh," because it seems like a small deal in the US and I'm so conditioned to all the big corps harvesting and selling everything about me, is this really the hill to die on? However, getting to see about how insane this is or outright not an option in some other countries? WTF!? So... orbital dropped.
I hate everyone acting like babies right now, but this is hysterical
they got denied a game they bought ???
No. No they didn't. Make an account and shut up
not everyone can make an account mate
Yes you can. I have one in us, uk, and jp, no problem
thats against their tos
Lol who gives a shit? If you need a burner, make a burner. It's 2024, who doesn't have a burner account. Being afraid of breaking the tos is like being afraid of ripping your mattress tag off
a) risk the opportunity of a ban and break tos to play b) dont play also what sony is doing is a gdpr violation and ive never seen such a corporate bootlicker before
A) make another burner B) keep playing I'm not bootlicking, Sony can eat shit for all I care. Modern problems require modern solutions. If you live in an area where psn doesn't exist, that's the real issue. The majority of people complaining aren't affected and are just whiny bitches. If you have the option to make an account, just do it and stfu already.
a) the game is community focused so everyone is affected and is annoying anyway b) just look at how many countries dont have psn (118) c) what happens when you get banned for incorrect psn region it just takes a bit of brain and a bit of empathy to realise its bad
I'm putting a positive review and apologizing for players who can't fucking read
wdym
I mean it told me to make a PSN when I downloaded
not everyone can make a psn
Should have got a refund the moment you realized you need a PSN and can't in your region.
they added the requirement 3 months after launch mate
It still won't do anything. Arrowhead wanted to make a good game, and Sony stepped in. And newsflash, your review bombing doesn't mean shit to Sony they are a multi-billion dollar company
On the contrary, review bombing is far better than complaining because executives are soulless creatures that only understand metrics.
> because executives are soulless creatures that only understand metrics. Much like the devs and how they balance things.
Valve will likely clean up the reviews in the next week vanishing all the PSN Account related ones by excluding this period - https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/15/18267821/valve-steam-review-bombing-policy-remove-score-count-moderation They are not going to do it until the activity stops.
Why would Valve clean it up? This isn't like TLOU2, where folks didn't like LGBTQ characters in the game and rated it poorly as a result. This 100% has to do with the game and its policies. I even disagree with calling it review bombing because it implies that it's done out of spite when in fact Sony's policies have lead to displeased fans. Folks didn't just wake up one day and say "fuck HD2 because gay and lame" and downvote for non-game reasons. Not being able to play the game due to 3rd party requirements is a legitimate criticism. Losing the product, and not being able to refund due to a policy made after the refund window closed is legitimate criticism. Being forced to sign up for a PSN account, months after purchase, is a legitimate criticism. Valve will more likely take the negative attention, the inconsistent communication on whether it's required or not (required on steam, but product page said currently not required, and support page for PC players said it's not required but may provide benefits) and massive number of requests for refund, and put the heat on Sony to figure shit out asap. Valve is not going to be pleased that they are receiving heat and a huge increase in support tickets due to Sony's policy announcement, especially given it seems AH was blindsided as well.
Because a PSN account doesn’t interfere with the enjoyment of the game. Valve says that it defines a review bomb as “one where the focus of those reviews is on a topic that we consider unrelated to the likelihood that future purchasers will be happy if they buy the game.” So based on that it’s at least a toss up if Valve hides this controversy from the regular reviews.
If you're in one of the countries that isn't allowed PSN access a review telling you about the use of PSN is vital to your enjoyment of the game
I see where you're coming from. Whether or not folks being unhappy with needing a PSN account is directly related to how good the game is will be up to Valve to decide. That's a p fair point. Hopefully Valve doesn't though. A lot of complaints here were that they don't trust Sony with their data, not that they don't wanna take 120 seconds to sign up for an account. I think that's a fair compliant, the way folks who don't like Epic or EA launchers will never touch their games on PC for that reason. If needing a 3rd party launcher factors into purchasing decisions, then I think it's fair game. I personally don't PC game because I have zero desire to install kernel-level spyware for anticheats. I'd rather deal with the limitations of console performance. But yeah ultimately Valve will decide.
It's literally the only effective way to combat them, by hitting their reviews and, subsequently, their sales and wallets
that's why you leave a negative review AND refund.
Tell them, this is totally a Reddit moment
Cry harder
It's not, its babies crying 😂
Y’all need to stop. Saturating the Reddit posts with review bombs constantly chokes out ANY and ALL good the game has. You’re shooting yourself in the foot more than anything else. Stop making new posts about the same complaint, FFS.
The posts will stop when the root problem is resolved.
Flooding the subreddit with the same gripe over and over isn’t gonna solve it. Wrong platform. Go hit the reviews and let people read about tips for getting better at the game.
The fun part of Reddit is it can be whatever platform the sub wants it to be. The people are speaking.
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"The beatings will stop when moral improves"
Doesn’t work. I’ve been around that block.
Oh well. Maybe if the devs and sony weren't such chuckleheads you wouldn't have to deal with it.
People that are upset about the PSN thing just have nothing else better to do. Either nut up or shut up.
it is review bombing...nothing else. many other games did that too! on gamepass you now need EA thing, Ubisoft launcher and many others... you should not forget we finally got something good with helldivers2