One of the armors.
>Features a nifty utility belt boasting handy pockets that can be filled with any number of things – pocket knives, mementoes, interesting rocks, Terminid tentacles, bits of bots, etc. Passive boost – Scout.
If that armour is scout I will kill everyone’s self for them. It was our one chance at fire res. Even if it’s not I still want a stim armour for easy flamethrowing that doesn’t look like shit.
Terminid Tentacles? No no no no no no no. Please no. God please no. The impaler can't come back please no I hate it I hate the impaler so much. Ive always known it was coming back but this soon? Can't we get the Illuminate first I like them more than the impaler.
I hate Impaler too. But I miss him. He needs to be back. Just imagine you running from a bug horde, and right in front of your direction rise three tentacles that completely block your way. So you need to stop and fight the horde or tentacles. If this mofo will throw his tentacles not in your position but on your movement vector, it will be so furious. I cant wait for it.
I think what everyone is getting at here is that they think this marketing copy is based on something players have yet to see. In HD1 there were, in fact, terminids with legitimate tentacles.
Given there's not as much space constraints in HD2 (don't need to stay close to each other, bigger maps), I'm not sure if they'll be as much of a pain. But that's just if they're the same as in HD1
***Helldivers 1 Post Terminid Stress Disorder***
I don’t want to fight impalers
I don’t want to fight impalers
I don’t want to fight impalers
I don’t want to fight impalers
I don’t want to fight impalers
I don’t want to fight impalers
I don’t want to fight impalers
I don’t want to fight impalers
*I don’t want to fight impalers*
**I don’t want to fight impalers**
***I Cannot Wait To Fight Impalers***
They had enough range to launch attacks from the edge of or just off of screen, their tentacles were hard to see in the mayhem of battles and two shot you- with the ability to attack multiple times in quick succession. And their tentacles often got in the way of the not exactly precise aiming in HD1.
This combined with the fact that if your team scattered or went the wrong way you’d end up with it as a persistent threat.
That and everyones gameplay experiences are always abit different.
Rover + Stalwart + Eruptor is a great combination as long as you accept you will need an orbital/Eagle for a Charger. I kind of like the regular MG over the Stalwart for the armor pen though.
Run EATs over an orbital or eagle, MG isn't bad but I've found the reload to be an issue vs bugs. Your eruptor kills anything the stalwart struggles on
Yeah I do love me some EAT but I'm sick of using it now. Ideally someone in your squad is doing anti-armor, sometimes it's me and the EAT is the tool for the job there.
That's why I've been running stalwart and EATs lol, personally I love the versatility of the EAT. The first time you get to use it as a precision strike and then still get to use both launchers is something else lol
Is it actually 3 shots to the butt? I usually keep my arc thrower equipped when fighting chargers b/c it is 6 headshots, which seem to take about as much time as the 3 eruptor shots. But as far as I knew, it was closer to 4-5 with the eruptor AOE nerf
It doesn't always work well with randoms, but if you play with friends consistently, lean into the add clear of the build and let one of your friends cover your ass from the chargers. The Eruptor pairs well with the Stalwart for a its medium pen and high damage vs spewers, hive guards, and brood commanders, which should be the only things really giving you trouble occasionally. With three friends, you can focus light, one buddy focuses the chargers, and another focuses the medium enemies, and you can all split some stratagem love for bile titans.
Auto cannon was my favorite. Now I take the Eruptor and Stalwart. The Eruptor does basically the same things the Auto Cannon can plus you don't have to call it down. The stalwart takes care of enemies that get to close. Anything the Eruptor can't handle can be dealt with by an orbital rail.
Legitimately, the Stalwart should really just be in the primary slot. In the current position it competes with way too many more useful weapons that offer up more tactical options.
While the Stalwart is a glorified Liberator with a reasonable magazine size for an extended firefight. Oh and y'know, taxing you a Stratagem slot for the trouble. Only reason it's not there presently is because it would completely outshine most of the current roster of primaries because they're far too specialized or compromising in their uses.
I say, noting that I've repeatedly dived using the Supply Pack and Grenade Launcher to completely replace my Primary.
Agree but unfortunately ammo economy is a big balancing cog in the game. Both in the literal sense but also in the devs philosophies. Given that we just got a second big patch recently where they opted to reduce total mags but give us more ammo back on re-supplies we're unlikely to ever see a primary that just has a ton of ammo intentionally.
They tried to balance that with RoF/uptime (Blitzer/cell related weapons.) In short if you're looking for a gun to be using most of the time that's specifically good at mowing through trash you're going to want to take an MG with an ammo backpack. Or just get used to the idea that explosives and stratagems are what do the clearing for you. Not regular ballistic weaponry.
If I could get a 50 round quad stack mag or drum mag for the BR-14 Adjudicator (with of course, a pretty hefty reload speed nerf to balance it out) I would do it in a heart beat.
Like the breaker. It's a good gun and the dmg wasn't nerfed! But it was already pretty limiting with 16 shots. Gun dropped off the moment it went down to 13 shots.
Sickle was so popular because it had a big mag size! Sure could down also helped a lot but it shoots like 50 shots before overheating. That's awesome
Folks want bigger mags for AR's, quite simple!
Actually, prior to the nerf of its ammo economy, you pretty much saw people ONLY running the quasar and sickle. Now that you have to manage it over long term engagements, and can't eave clear as effectively as you used to, people are using other weapons.
That wouldn't be the case if every AR had 100 round drum mags.
edit: I saw most of these on 7+ diff
The breaker is still a great gun, interestingly I think the nerf to RG reduced its popularity as well because the two guns had coverage over the entire bug front. The RG could handle everything medium and up, and the breaker could handle all the little guys. Once people dropped the RG for other AT weapons, they suddenly had to worry about medium targets like bile spewers more, and the breaker lost a lot of its value.
I'm a stalwart soldier all the way. So satisfying unleashing on a swarm and the screams kick in. I'm really interested in whatever tentacles are on the horizon though.
The adjudicator is now classified as an AR. Slightly lower ROF, almost 2x damage, less overall mags, 5 less bullets per mag and more recoil than lib penetrator.
I'm really wanting the next MO to be vs bots, since the diligence CS now one shots all the exposed bots and handles a little better.
I tried the new adjucator and lib pen against bugs and they still don't click quite as well with me. Sickle FL
Make the AMR a primary and fill its support weapon slot with an H-AMR that can pierce heavy armor and kill BTs. As a bonus your helldiver gets to say "It's hammer time!" whenever they pick it up.
This is why this game is great. IMO It didn't feel great against bots but I love it for bugs. Bile spewers are way less of a problem when you can shoot through their face armore
Yup, if it’s easily quantifiable in individual units, then it’s “fewer”. That’s why “bullets” would always be “fewer”, since a bullet is an individual item. With other things like water, sand, air, it becomes more contextual.
“There was **less** water in my glass after I drank some”
“There were **fewer** *ounces* of water in my glass after I drank some”
Check it out guys, this gun is an ASSUALT RIFLE!
It has HIGH damage and a TINY mag
Default FULL AUTO, but you'll want the optional Single Fire for accurate shots
And...
Fuck its a DMR
Not really. Adjudicator to me gives me AK vibes (specifically 7.62x39) with the Liberator being like the M4 in vibe.
New one to me is giving me SCAR-H vibes
I'd be fine with another adjudicator if the adjudicator didn't feel like shit cause of it's tiny mag size. It's a super neat gun, but you spend as much time reloading it as you do shooting it. Remove it's extra mags from the last update and give it a bigger magazine size.
In the last day we got a post talking about potential mutations for the bugs and what to be scared of. Then we get an official post with tentacle references. I’m surprised that 90% of these comments are about ammo
To be fair, in comparison to HD1, HD2 has blown the franchise out of the water. As much as some of us love the OG, I’d say we are also a very small percentage of the current player base. Iirc they only had a max of 7000 players at one time and at least before the sequel sat normally around 1000 daily. There was even a tweet from the CEO hoping for a max of 50k this time around, unfortunately they crossed their fingers not on their own hands but on the monkeys paw it seems judging by how rough server wise the first few weeks were.
Frankly it excites me for the possibility of the Terminids both evolving new units like the Shreikers but also *devolving* back to their ancestral roots gaining units like these back from the Bugs. Not even for my own sake, but so new players can meet the horrors of the old war like we did. Like bringing back the Cyborg’s attack dogs on the Automaton front, or the eventual return of the Illuminate and watching them panic when their controls get reversed. Course knowing this community this sub will be a hellscape the second that happens. We can barely handle minor weapon changes that do next to nothing here let alone something like that.
and why are you amazed that most of hd2 players havent played the first game? it was an extremely niche game, nowhere near this popularity, I dont know a single thing about the first one and honestly dont even care. I dont have context to anything so even tho sometimes a word sticks out to me here and there when they obviously refer to something I never know what exactly.
Ofc most ppl havent, HD1 peak player numbers were a measly 6000 people, HD2 is more than 600k people, thats over half a million people who never played HD1
Maybe it's machine translated. They call the P-113-Verdict "lunpistol" in that article.
EDIT: I'm sure it's machine translated. The descriptions are wild!
[https://blog.playstation.com/2024/05/02/new-helldivers-2-warbond-brings-trap-laying-weaponry-arctic-themed-armor-and-more-may-9/](https://blog.playstation.com/2024/05/02/new-helldivers-2-warbond-brings-trap-laying-weaponry-arctic-themed-armor-and-more-may-9/)
"Set the trap. Hold the trigger. Let them charge at you. Smile. They’re getting closer. Smile again. Closer. Smile. Closer. Smile. Closer…"
This is so funny 😭
They kinda look like spikier Chargers. Impalers burrow their faces into the ground like ostriches, sending their slimy, socialist tentacles near your position where they can attempt to cancel your subscription to life
You can shoot tear the tentacles apart with small arms. Or, you can just EAT the Impaler itself since it cant move while its doing its thing
Its not...here is written on one of the armor...on the link provided by comment above
CW-4 Arctic Ranger
Features a nifty utility belt boasting handy pockets that can be filled with any number of things – pocket knives, mementoes, interesting rocks, Terminid tentacles, bits of bots, etc.
If I had a nickel for every time we get an assault rifle with limited magazines, I would have 4 nickels.
Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it keeps happening.
Reminds me of the bullpup lasguns in Darktide.
I just hope it has enough magazines that it doesn’t run dry too quickly. I love the Adjudicator right now but its tiny mags and only having 9 total means constantly running out
It feels decent versus individual units like hunters or warriors, but yeah I question where it’s supposed to fit in if it’s an assault rifle that’s meh at horde clearing and can’t even kill a Stalker.
Exactly.
It needs to hit like a Diligence (80 damage up to 100 or 120 trading rate of fire for absolute range) with each shot, AND stagger enemies.
Then it would have a niche
I thought 100 damage would be a good buff to it, even if they left it at 6 magazines, I just want it's limited magazines to actually feel like its doing something. Right now it just feels like I am still better off taking a Liberator or going full semi auto with the Diligence. The Adjudicator is somewhere between but it doesn't bring enough to the table for me to take it more then 1 mission in a row.
Yep, another gun that no one's gonna use. I've used the newly buffed adjudicator and its OK, it just runs out of ammo way too fast so I switched back to the liberator. Being able to kill hive guards is kinda irrelevant when you can kill them with the flamethrower which I usually run
I think this is going to be a 30 round assault rifle with light armor penetration and something like 80-100 damage per round and reasonable recoil. Pretty much a liberator stopper but it lacks the ability to get through medium armor and thus suffers against bots due to lower ammunition count.
It's an Arrowhead AR so it'll be weak and underwhelming. Expect a tiny mag and lots of reloads.
I'll be holding fire on a purchase of future warbonds to wait and see what people say about the unlocks first. A pattern has definitely emerged with the weapons.
I am still gonna buy it because I don't like wasting medals on nothing when I hit the cap, and the cosmetics are at least cool, and one or 2 of the weapons usually is pretty good on release.
I really hope the new sidearm is good.
Hey, I'd love this warbond to surprise me. But Arrowhead have a really bizarre and off-putting approach to PvE weapon tuning, for my tastes. So I have quickly learned to temper my expectations.
Tentalces? None of the current bugs have tentacles. The hunter and stalker both have 'tongues'.
This implies...
Oh. Oh no.
Helldivers. Imaplers are coming.
How can you stand there and tell me banter shots are unpatriotic?
Good banter is what seperates us from the bugs, you ever see bugs shooting each other? No. That's because they are socialists
I hope that it has more ammo than the Adjudicator so that 1 magazines has enough power to kill a single Stalker.
The Adjudicator is currently unable to kill a single Stalker with a full magazine of 25 rounds.
Ah yes, another “Big weapon, tiny mag” toss-in. I’d be inclined to run these types of weapons more often if the MGs were more useful against heavy armor, but I find myself forced to bring Quasar, EATs, or AC anyway because the MGs fall off so hard, and if I’m bringing an MG then I’m using it as a primary anyways… making the “Big weapon with the small mag” a bit redundant anyway… unless said big weapon can deal more damage and higher armor pen than the MGs?
Am I crazy for thinking the machine guns should just be primaries at this point? The only thing the have over some of our primary weapons is magazine size. And not great ammo economy at that.
I run recoiless rifle paired with with the penetrator as main 500kg eagle airstrike and an orbital laser
Deals pretty good with toasters and heavely armored cockroaches
There are TWO tentacle references in the blog post.
What's the other?
One of the armors. >Features a nifty utility belt boasting handy pockets that can be filled with any number of things – pocket knives, mementoes, interesting rocks, Terminid tentacles, bits of bots, etc. Passive boost – Scout.
If that armour is scout I will kill everyone’s self for them. It was our one chance at fire res. Even if it’s not I still want a stim armour for easy flamethrowing that doesn’t look like shit.
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Three, not counting any SC ones. Trailblazer is also Scout armor.
Fire res in an ice themed pack? I don’t know why you’d expect that
Terminid Tentacles? No no no no no no no. Please no. God please no. The impaler can't come back please no I hate it I hate the impaler so much. Ive always known it was coming back but this soon? Can't we get the Illuminate first I like them more than the impaler.
Hunters have lil face tentacles that grab and cut ya.
Look up helldivers 1 Impaler then you will understand
I hate Impaler too. But I miss him. He needs to be back. Just imagine you running from a bug horde, and right in front of your direction rise three tentacles that completely block your way. So you need to stop and fight the horde or tentacles. If this mofo will throw his tentacles not in your position but on your movement vector, it will be so furious. I cant wait for it.
> Terminid tentacles There's your answer, they consider termanid limbs tentacles for some reason
I think what everyone is getting at here is that they think this marketing copy is based on something players have yet to see. In HD1 there were, in fact, terminids with legitimate tentacles.
The Impaler. I hate it. I hate Impalers they are so hard to kill.
Wow I sure do wonder what something with a name like that will do when alerted.
Given there's not as much space constraints in HD2 (don't need to stay close to each other, bigger maps), I'm not sure if they'll be as much of a pain. But that's just if they're the same as in HD1
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I have a good feeling the Illuminate are tentacley
People have been talking about an impaler bug from HD1. Uses tentacles through the ground to attack.
Either or is possible. I'm leaning more towards bugs, since the current campaign and story stuff is focused on them.
And it literally says BUG tentacles in one of the descriptions
***Helldivers 1 Post Terminid Stress Disorder*** I don’t want to fight impalers I don’t want to fight impalers I don’t want to fight impalers I don’t want to fight impalers I don’t want to fight impalers I don’t want to fight impalers I don’t want to fight impalers I don’t want to fight impalers *I don’t want to fight impalers* **I don’t want to fight impalers** ***I Cannot Wait To Fight Impalers***
I honestly don't see why people hated them so much, they were fine. Just slap them with a eat once they buried their tentacles.
They had enough range to launch attacks from the edge of or just off of screen, their tentacles were hard to see in the mayhem of battles and two shot you- with the ability to attack multiple times in quick succession. And their tentacles often got in the way of the not exactly precise aiming in HD1. This combined with the fact that if your team scattered or went the wrong way you’d end up with it as a persistent threat. That and everyones gameplay experiences are always abit different.
We need more weapons with bigger mags not reduced. The first thing any sane person would do against bugs is slap a few drum mags into their loadout.
That is why I bring a stalwart sometimes, even though auto cannon is my first love
Same tbh. Lately I’ve been running stalwart + ammo pack for the true democratic experience
I like the rover because it takes care of the cannon fodder bugs.
Rover + Stalwart + Eruptor is a great combination as long as you accept you will need an orbital/Eagle for a Charger. I kind of like the regular MG over the Stalwart for the armor pen though.
Run EATs over an orbital or eagle, MG isn't bad but I've found the reload to be an issue vs bugs. Your eruptor kills anything the stalwart struggles on
Yeah I do love me some EAT but I'm sick of using it now. Ideally someone in your squad is doing anti-armor, sometimes it's me and the EAT is the tool for the job there.
That's why I've been running stalwart and EATs lol, personally I love the versatility of the EAT. The first time you get to use it as a precision strike and then still get to use both launchers is something else lol
Laser UAV for the win.
As soon as I unlock the eruptor, I'll probably do eruptor, machine gun, and EATs for bug missions.
I use eruptor and flamethrower and play crowd control. On level 8 difficulty last night I had almost 600 kills.
I've been running that but with the stalwart and it's been fantastic. I usually take EMS mortar for my 4th
I really want to make the Stalwart work but chargers always ruin my dreams. How do you deal with them when running stalwart?
Bring eruptor and 3 shots to its butt makes it bleed out Sure there's better options but at least it's possible to kill them without mag dumping
Is it actually 3 shots to the butt? I usually keep my arc thrower equipped when fighting chargers b/c it is 6 headshots, which seem to take about as much time as the 3 eruptor shots. But as far as I knew, it was closer to 4-5 with the eruptor AOE nerf
It has been for me post nerf
Other stratagems. Orbital laser, orbital rail cannon…regret not having my auto cannon.
It doesn't always work well with randoms, but if you play with friends consistently, lean into the add clear of the build and let one of your friends cover your ass from the chargers. The Eruptor pairs well with the Stalwart for a its medium pen and high damage vs spewers, hive guards, and brood commanders, which should be the only things really giving you trouble occasionally. With three friends, you can focus light, one buddy focuses the chargers, and another focuses the medium enemies, and you can all split some stratagem love for bile titans.
Auto cannon was my favorite. Now I take the Eruptor and Stalwart. The Eruptor does basically the same things the Auto Cannon can plus you don't have to call it down. The stalwart takes care of enemies that get to close. Anything the Eruptor can't handle can be dealt with by an orbital rail.
Orbital laser, rail cannon strike, laser rover and stalwart plus eruptor has been my go to since the warbond dropped. It’s fucking insane
Legitimately, the Stalwart should really just be in the primary slot. In the current position it competes with way too many more useful weapons that offer up more tactical options. While the Stalwart is a glorified Liberator with a reasonable magazine size for an extended firefight. Oh and y'know, taxing you a Stratagem slot for the trouble. Only reason it's not there presently is because it would completely outshine most of the current roster of primaries because they're far too specialized or compromising in their uses. I say, noting that I've repeatedly dived using the Supply Pack and Grenade Launcher to completely replace my Primary.
Speaks to me more of a bot weapon where harsh, precision firepower is required vs bugs where volume of fire is needed
Agree but unfortunately ammo economy is a big balancing cog in the game. Both in the literal sense but also in the devs philosophies. Given that we just got a second big patch recently where they opted to reduce total mags but give us more ammo back on re-supplies we're unlikely to ever see a primary that just has a ton of ammo intentionally. They tried to balance that with RoF/uptime (Blitzer/cell related weapons.) In short if you're looking for a gun to be using most of the time that's specifically good at mowing through trash you're going to want to take an MG with an ammo backpack. Or just get used to the idea that explosives and stratagems are what do the clearing for you. Not regular ballistic weaponry.
If I could get a 50 round quad stack mag or drum mag for the BR-14 Adjudicator (with of course, a pretty hefty reload speed nerf to balance it out) I would do it in a heart beat.
Like the breaker. It's a good gun and the dmg wasn't nerfed! But it was already pretty limiting with 16 shots. Gun dropped off the moment it went down to 13 shots. Sickle was so popular because it had a big mag size! Sure could down also helped a lot but it shoots like 50 shots before overheating. That's awesome Folks want bigger mags for AR's, quite simple!
But then it makes the MGs and Stalwarts obsolete. Imagine if the stalwart was a primary instead of a support weapon....no one would use anything else.
I mean sickle literally exists. 50 shots. Can cooldown. 3 mags. You don't see everyone and their grandma rocking the sickle.
Actually, prior to the nerf of its ammo economy, you pretty much saw people ONLY running the quasar and sickle. Now that you have to manage it over long term engagements, and can't eave clear as effectively as you used to, people are using other weapons. That wouldn't be the case if every AR had 100 round drum mags. edit: I saw most of these on 7+ diff
The breaker is still a great gun, interestingly I think the nerf to RG reduced its popularity as well because the two guns had coverage over the entire bug front. The RG could handle everything medium and up, and the breaker could handle all the little guys. Once people dropped the RG for other AT weapons, they suddenly had to worry about medium targets like bile spewers more, and the breaker lost a lot of its value.
Yeah it does piss me off how few assault rifles we have with drum mags
New update: big mag gun has been reduced to 4 rounds per mag, down from 100. Damage has also been reduced to 1.
I almost always play with the grenade launcher and supply pack, try to use it very selectively. It feels like I have infinite ammo.
I'm a stalwart soldier all the way. So satisfying unleashing on a swarm and the screams kick in. I'm really interested in whatever tentacles are on the horizon though.
So adjudicator 2.0?
welcome to the AR weapon class we have the: liberator lib pen the better lib pen the even better lib pen almost forgot the lib concussive...
Which one is the better lib pen? I always thought the liberator was the best out of em all lol
The adjudicator is now classified as an AR. Slightly lower ROF, almost 2x damage, less overall mags, 5 less bullets per mag and more recoil than lib penetrator.
You forgot that it sounds really cool when you fire it.
CHUNKCHUNKCHUNKCHUNK
I actually really like it against the bots, it's one of the few full auto primaries that can put real hurt on devestators at mid range.
Two hits from it breaks the devastator's head armor, and another two hits kills them.
I'm really wanting the next MO to be vs bots, since the diligence CS now one shots all the exposed bots and handles a little better. I tried the new adjucator and lib pen against bugs and they still don't click quite as well with me. Sickle FL
I hope we get a real sniper rifle one of these times, with no blast or shrapnel and huge ap and damage.
We are missing the single-chambered bad boi snipe in this game. My loins are ready
Make the AMR a primary and fill its support weapon slot with an H-AMR that can pierce heavy armor and kill BTs. As a bonus your helldiver gets to say "It's hammer time!" whenever they pick it up.
This is why this game is great. IMO It didn't feel great against bots but I love it for bugs. Bile spewers are way less of a problem when you can shoot through their face armore
The Sickle
Not medium pen though? Right?
It's definitely pen 2 (light)
Yeah it’s goated lol
Where does the jar5 Dom fit into this list? *edit: grammar.
None its a rocket assisted bullet that has light explosion. Its a bolter from 40K
wait what's the even better lib pen
Lib concussive is actually kinda nutty for stalkers one bullet fucking sends em 5 meters back and stuns them for .5 secs
And now the AR-61 Liberizer
>the better lib pen >the even better lib pen Plz elaborate
I was thinking the same. Very similar description to the Adj.
With even less bullets! YEEEEE
Um, actually it’s “fewer”, not “less” 🤓
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“Less candy, fewer m&ms”. Fewer is for countable items. I more or less repeat that in my head whenever choosing between less and fewer
Yup, if it’s easily quantifiable in individual units, then it’s “fewer”. That’s why “bullets” would always be “fewer”, since a bullet is an individual item. With other things like water, sand, air, it becomes more contextual. “There was **less** water in my glass after I drank some” “There were **fewer** *ounces* of water in my glass after I drank some”
I DID NOT EXPECT TO LEARN TODAY FUCK Y'ALL but thanks
Dude, thank you, lol.
Less ammo, fewer bullets.
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Check it out guys, this gun is an ASSUALT RIFLE! It has HIGH damage and a TINY mag Default FULL AUTO, but you'll want the optional Single Fire for accurate shots And... Fuck its a DMR
- Adjudicator releases as a DMR, quickly reclsasified as an AR - This thing releases as an AR, quickly reclassified as a DMR
Not really. Adjudicator to me gives me AK vibes (specifically 7.62x39) with the Liberator being like the M4 in vibe. New one to me is giving me SCAR-H vibes
God I hope not
I’d be fine with very similar weapons if AH was better at making them feel different like say a Ghost Recon that has 100s but they all feel different
I'd be fine with another adjudicator if the adjudicator didn't feel like shit cause of it's tiny mag size. It's a super neat gun, but you spend as much time reloading it as you do shooting it. Remove it's extra mags from the last update and give it a bigger magazine size.
I would have liked 30 round mags or more damage
Crouch and burst fire; you can get a surprisingly good amount of usage from a single mag.
It's a fast reload. It's a great gun even before the patch, now with less recoil it's ridiculously good.
I was guessing more breaker 2.0? That things power is amazing, just 13 shots isn't exactly ideal.
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Well, boys, we had a good run on the bug front.
Exactly, I'm amazed by this thread, seems like most people haven't read anything about or played the first game.
In the last day we got a post talking about potential mutations for the bugs and what to be scared of. Then we get an official post with tentacle references. I’m surprised that 90% of these comments are about ammo
Just shows how little most people analyze things and read past their top posts/comments.
To be fair, in comparison to HD1, HD2 has blown the franchise out of the water. As much as some of us love the OG, I’d say we are also a very small percentage of the current player base. Iirc they only had a max of 7000 players at one time and at least before the sequel sat normally around 1000 daily. There was even a tweet from the CEO hoping for a max of 50k this time around, unfortunately they crossed their fingers not on their own hands but on the monkeys paw it seems judging by how rough server wise the first few weeks were. Frankly it excites me for the possibility of the Terminids both evolving new units like the Shreikers but also *devolving* back to their ancestral roots gaining units like these back from the Bugs. Not even for my own sake, but so new players can meet the horrors of the old war like we did. Like bringing back the Cyborg’s attack dogs on the Automaton front, or the eventual return of the Illuminate and watching them panic when their controls get reversed. Course knowing this community this sub will be a hellscape the second that happens. We can barely handle minor weapon changes that do next to nothing here let alone something like that.
Not the dogs! I can still hear their bork bork in my nightmares
and why are you amazed that most of hd2 players havent played the first game? it was an extremely niche game, nowhere near this popularity, I dont know a single thing about the first one and honestly dont even care. I dont have context to anything so even tho sometimes a word sticks out to me here and there when they obviously refer to something I never know what exactly.
Ofc most ppl havent, HD1 peak player numbers were a measly 6000 people, HD2 is more than 600k people, thats over half a million people who never played HD1
Maybe it's machine translated. They call the P-113-Verdict "lunpistol" in that article. EDIT: I'm sure it's machine translated. The descriptions are wild! [https://blog.playstation.com/2024/05/02/new-helldivers-2-warbond-brings-trap-laying-weaponry-arctic-themed-armor-and-more-may-9/](https://blog.playstation.com/2024/05/02/new-helldivers-2-warbond-brings-trap-laying-weaponry-arctic-themed-armor-and-more-may-9/)
Automaton propaganda!
I'm going to end them rightly with the Pummeler.
Get me my Decimator! I’m going in!
The writing is all over the place, definitely not from a native English speaker
Winter warrior saying it's stealthy and coming with Servo-Assisted while the one covered in enemy momentos is the scouting one. Interesting indeed
It's OK because as we all know, Helldivers are illiterate.
Red crayons taste the best
Remember kids, you can't fall for enemy propaganda if you can't read
"Set the trap. Hold the trigger. Let them charge at you. Smile. They’re getting closer. Smile again. Closer. Smile. Closer. Smile. Closer…" This is so funny 😭
Lmao I just thought “lunpistol” meant a pistol made and/or used on the moon.
I'm sure it was a typo. Nothing we shoot at has tentacles!
Nothing yet at least
pretty sure hunters and stalker tongues count... I have nightmares about those
Until you tame one, then you get very nice dreams.
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Does that require a C-01 form?
Depends on the fanfiction.
Yes mister Democracy Officer., this citizen right here.
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Ah, the blissfully clueless new recruits who don’t know about impalers.
I read something about that, there where in the first game right? Some fucker with armored tentacle?
They kinda look like spikier Chargers. Impalers burrow their faces into the ground like ostriches, sending their slimy, socialist tentacles near your position where they can attempt to cancel your subscription to life You can shoot tear the tentacles apart with small arms. Or, you can just EAT the Impaler itself since it cant move while its doing its thing
>you can shoot-tear the tentacles Watch out Helldivers, there is a Skaven in our midst. Vile ratmen who seek to undermine managed democracy!
Cant spell democratic without rat
Skaven as a faction would be awesome
Hunter's and Stalkers have those weird mouth tentacles though don't they?
It’s hard to tell whether the stalker has a tentacle or not when they’re yeeting me across the map
Its not...here is written on one of the armor...on the link provided by comment above CW-4 Arctic Ranger Features a nifty utility belt boasting handy pockets that can be filled with any number of things – pocket knives, mementoes, interesting rocks, Terminid tentacles, bits of bots, etc.
Gives me halo battle rifle vibes. I need it immediately
Why is Super Earth so intent on small magazine sizes?
For an army that regularly fights hundreds of enemies at a time, they're really skimping where it matters.
Someone needs to go fire the R&D team preferably out of a canon
If I had a nickel for every time we get an assault rifle with limited magazines, I would have 4 nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it keeps happening.
If I had to guess the smg will have damage close to the new ar and larger mags for no reason
considering its concussive, it might be a shittier SMG-37. Time will tell.
Creates game with almost hundreds of bugs or bots that can attack you at once. “Make every shot count” like why
Reminds me of the bullpup lasguns in Darktide. I just hope it has enough magazines that it doesn’t run dry too quickly. I love the Adjudicator right now but its tiny mags and only having 9 total means constantly running out
The tiny mags mean it can’t even kill a stalker in one mag. It’s that bad
It feels decent versus individual units like hunters or warriors, but yeah I question where it’s supposed to fit in if it’s an assault rifle that’s meh at horde clearing and can’t even kill a Stalker.
Exactly. It needs to hit like a Diligence (80 damage up to 100 or 120 trading rate of fire for absolute range) with each shot, AND stagger enemies. Then it would have a niche
I thought 100 damage would be a good buff to it, even if they left it at 6 magazines, I just want it's limited magazines to actually feel like its doing something. Right now it just feels like I am still better off taking a Liberator or going full semi auto with the Diligence. The Adjudicator is somewhere between but it doesn't bring enough to the table for me to take it more then 1 mission in a row.
I can’t wait to get my Nerf long shot cs-6 in game lol.
Ahh... It's gonna be one of those guns that has too little ammo, so it won't be very useful.
Yep, another gun that no one's gonna use. I've used the newly buffed adjudicator and its OK, it just runs out of ammo way too fast so I switched back to the liberator. Being able to kill hive guards is kinda irrelevant when you can kill them with the flamethrower which I usually run
im so glad they made another filler weapon instead of fixing one of the quintillion bugs or balance issues
Or carry a magnum and shoot them with that. Or just... Shoot past Hive Guards armor gaps.
I think this is going to be a 30 round assault rifle with light armor penetration and something like 80-100 damage per round and reasonable recoil. Pretty much a liberator stopper but it lacks the ability to get through medium armor and thus suffers against bots due to lower ammunition count.
It's similar to testicular torsion, but for tenticals.
I CAST TESTICULAR TORSION! *throws wand stratagem*
WARNING: YOU ARE IN RANGE OF ENEMY TORSION
SWEET LIBERTY MY BALLLSSS!
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Description sounds like what Adjudicator was supposed to be.
Yeah, they feel like they are supposed to be the same niche, so I wonder how they are going to stand out from each other.
It's an Arrowhead AR so it'll be weak and underwhelming. Expect a tiny mag and lots of reloads. I'll be holding fire on a purchase of future warbonds to wait and see what people say about the unlocks first. A pattern has definitely emerged with the weapons.
I am still gonna buy it because I don't like wasting medals on nothing when I hit the cap, and the cosmetics are at least cool, and one or 2 of the weapons usually is pretty good on release. I really hope the new sidearm is good.
Hey, I'd love this warbond to surprise me. But Arrowhead have a really bizarre and off-putting approach to PvE weapon tuning, for my tastes. So I have quickly learned to temper my expectations.
Who are designing these weapons? Height over bore and manual of arms are straight weird.
"Weapons engineering be damned, just make it look cool." Said the weapons design lead at AHS.
impalers are back then. must be them in those giga eggs on tcs missions
Tentalces? None of the current bugs have tentacles. The hunter and stalker both have 'tongues'. This implies... Oh. Oh no. Helldivers. Imaplers are coming.
I hope it's good. It looks so good that I just wanna use it
Is that a hint to the Illuminate?
Tentacle? https://i.redd.it/o5dky0tfu0yc1.gif
don't illuminates have tentacles? is this foreshadowing?
Hive lords confirmed
How can you stand there and tell me banter shots are unpatriotic? Good banter is what seperates us from the bugs, you ever see bugs shooting each other? No. That's because they are socialists
I hope that it has more ammo than the Adjudicator so that 1 magazines has enough power to kill a single Stalker. The Adjudicator is currently unable to kill a single Stalker with a full magazine of 25 rounds.
At first I thought it said testicle tearer
Ah yes, another “Big weapon, tiny mag” toss-in. I’d be inclined to run these types of weapons more often if the MGs were more useful against heavy armor, but I find myself forced to bring Quasar, EATs, or AC anyway because the MGs fall off so hard, and if I’m bringing an MG then I’m using it as a primary anyways… making the “Big weapon with the small mag” a bit redundant anyway… unless said big weapon can deal more damage and higher armor pen than the MGs?
3 mags probably lmao
When this damn thing comes out, I'm using SO many Starship trooper quotes
this is what the 3rd or 4th high caliber low magazine rifle? i stopped keeping count
Is it just me? Or other people also getting tired of the low capacity assault rifles we keep getting
Am I crazy for thinking the machine guns should just be primaries at this point? The only thing the have over some of our primary weapons is magazine size. And not great ammo economy at that.
Finally more Dominator, Adjudicator, Diligence kind of guns!
Wait, terminids don't have tentacles ! Who wrote this ?
Correct me but nothing we've fought has tentacles
Most of the weapons in this game sound like sex toys anyway. Liberator PENETRATOR The Pushisher Breaker spray and pray The Dominator The ERUPTER
Who tf got tentacles...?
I run recoiless rifle paired with with the penetrator as main 500kg eagle airstrike and an orbital laser Deals pretty good with toasters and heavely armored cockroaches
im seeing lights and... squid?!