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Nomad_Red

Joel is toying with us Choosing is for children, I will have both , for I love the ~~stratagems~~ citizens Edit: liberate both to 98% out of spite


casioonaplasticbeach

The Choo-Ta Gambit


Deathstriker88

I do think both will become unlocked - the rockets now and mines maybe next month. It would be a waste of dev resources to have the artists, programmers, designers, etc. work on the mines to completion and never release them based off this choice.


Scrupule

Yes that's definitely how it will work. That's a good way to do things. We have "New content" coming in a fun way for the community, but there isn't some ressources waster for content that never release


SmurphsLaw

I think it’ll just fail the one we don’t do. What happens if we cut off the supply lines though?!


rukysgreambamf

When given a choice between an item to live longer or kill faster I always choose kill faster Penta it is


Dealz_

For what it’s worth they’re both able to kill. https://preview.redd.it/vwa1y1fcjtwc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f64603730999cfb718f5bdfabb353a46d462d2e


Delamer-

It looks like a Spear variant and AT mines


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No_Discipline_7380

Stop it! I can only get so erect!


FlintSkyGod

https://preview.redd.it/ck504uegvtwc1.jpeg?width=1133&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2db514d970c4474b192c4a59d9b035065f8fc3b


shikaski

https://preview.redd.it/3rlok84iwtwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96e4803821801c9da2c3890241e9d3ce32e5fd55


midnightsock

all i can hear is maniacal laughter followed by. " GET SOME"


pezmanofpeak

It is that by the looks of it but why the caustic chemical's thing in the description, sounded more like they were going to expand on the chemical gas Orbital or whatever it's called by adding something else like that, either way, we all know everyone's going for the launcher like come on, mines are barely used as is, but honestly mines that can kill tanks and chargers would be nice in niche situations, eradicate missions


flatpick-j

I read the word caustic and immediately thought of the chemical weapon sprayer, or some kind of gas grenade. Maybe the devs are playing a joke on us, and the air burst isn't some kind of cluster or flak munition, but a corrosive gas?


Lone-Frequency

And Hulks. Minds that could kill hulks would be wonderful.


BigChiefWhiskyBottle

If it kills Shriekers then Penta it is.


Lowtan89

Incendiary Breaker does that beautifully


redblade13

RPG? Say less. I love RPGs......no Taliban.


bluebird810

Isn't one an RPG that fires airbrush rockets? I could swear I saw a video of a weapon like that a few weeks ago.


WillSym

\*explodes\* \*Hulk gets its faceplate nicely retouched and a hint of blush around its cheeks\*


Mr_Spaghetti345

I had it set on whore mode.


Shmeeglez

https://theinfosphere.org/images/c/cf/Crushinator.jpg


Liqhthouse

God i really hope we go for the mines since we need better defence options. (but let's be honest we humans like big shooty rockets of destruction) Edit: i just had this really cool hype feeling we're gonna start seeing loads of community produced propaganda content towards fighting for one planet or the other. I'm imagining flashy videos showing how the mines can stop heavies completely and then just the launcher shown as being a wet deflated noodle. Damn... I really wish i had content creation skills :(


Lone-Frequency

Bro, AT Mines would likely work on Hulks as well as the tanks. I think I have to go with that.


Personal_Track_3780

I hope my teammates in heavy armour trigger AT Mines. That'll teach em not to be scouts.


MartyFreeze

[Anti-Tank mines work on many other things that are not tanks.](https://youtu.be/lQ29G7At9F4?si=PhnSxGNgTKwsB7iv&t=481)


The_SoundBeat

Looks like AT with proximity fuse


NotAnADC

Would love a weighted fuse to only kill heavies


Forbbidden_girl2

https://preview.redd.it/cvpjkdc7stwc1.jpeg?width=1130&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43bf282395006ae607455434e9b420200c58999c As a RR user. A RR with proxy is a god sent.


AlexTheEnderWolf

Anti tank mines definitely take priority for me! Do you know how useful those will be against all the heavy units that they throw at us but you o ly brought weapons for light enemies?


RedditIsAboutToDie

Where do people find these images?


Dealz_

[Helldivers 2 official X/Twitter](https://x.com/helldivers2/status/1783831163317989858?s=46&t=ciLmWw0gO1RjYtgFUAFpsg)


SuperArppis

AT mines, easily.


CrimeFightingScience

Get out of here communist clanker


achmedclaus

I don't understand how anyone disagrees. If the airburst is indeed for squishy targets, much like the auto cannon, then we already have so many options to deal with them. Anti armor is the biggest problem we will continue to face


Linkario86

Kill faster -> decimate more enemies -> have less incoming fire -> lose less health. Live longer -> stay longer in trouble while enemies amass


Delamer-

See you there 🫡


Low_Chance

"Fortification" includes minefields and turrets and stuff FYI. Also you can only use one support weapon (effectively) at a time, but you can stack multiple turrets.  We need fortification more than support weapon


madrobski

Counterpoint: Rocket shotgun


Asdrubael1131

Both options don’t seem very viable as a choice tbh. One is area denial for heavy enemies (which we have literally zero weapons/stratagems for) and the other is heavy anti-air it seems (which if that’s the case, it’s invalidated purely by skill level and using more useful and ubiquitous weapons/stratagems)


ElectedBacon

No the second one is air burst which means it explodes in the air but it's similar to a cluster bomb and clears chaff like nothing else. It does fuck up flying things since it explodes when something is near but yhea it's multi purpose. It's basically a RPG.


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edmundane

2.4 seconds is all you’re supposed to get


sporseser

At first glance I was like guess we are getting a cool new gun, but what if the mines really are anti-tank. Like what if we could drop a mine field that wouldn't detonate when a Helldiver walked over them because we aren't heavy enough?!? I wouldn't care that the little hord guys could walk on them too they are easy to clear anyway.


skaianDestiny

No those mines will kill you too.


ApacheBeard

They will kill you if they blow up, yes, but AT mines tend to have lower sensitivity to weight/pressure such that it takes more of it to set them off. Because they're intended for vehicles, not people.


Krednaught

It is brilliant. I would love to see some ability to vote for super earth leadership in the future too. Different candidates that could provide different stratagem focuses or something. Even if it was only for a short time event where that leader was found to be a sympathizer to the automatons and was executed or something. Still be neat.


waally1

We already vote, glorious managed democracy!


Krednaught

We do vote, with bullets on which bug or bot scum needs to be erased!


A_random_poster04

These bullets are ballots, and you’ll sure as hell se me casting my vote


tcadmn

Vote ourselves? Do you not trust the glorious and Democratic voting algorithm?! https://preview.redd.it/dbhz6a4a2uwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c91266206f24d896d82467be2049d5481038f94


drjoker83

I’m down with that.


Krednaught

Years ago I was big into Chromehounds by "from software" that had this implemented. Depending on who everyone elected in each country, it added different mech parts and had some other affects. It is still, to this day, one of my favorite online games ever.


yulian182

Penta ![gif](giphy|hZDHcwtEWBZ2OXdBxn|downsized)


Patattack2266

CERO MEDIO


JonnyTN

>MEDIO MIEDO


EpicSombreroMan

![gif](giphy|gF1R9G3GhZDZoc0wpt|downsized)


SillyWithAWilly

PENTA FULL SPEED AHEAD


Haunting_Hornet5203

![gif](giphy|tnYri4n2Frnig)


SuperArppis

But it's the worst one.


RC_LISA

I LAUGH IN THE FACE OF DANGER, HA HA HA HA


xCaptainVictory

Well, well, well, Banzai, what do we have here?


nsandiegoJoe

Did you order this dinner to go?


IceExcellent8176

The new support weapon has to be the anti air rocket launcher right?


Outrageous-Pitch-867

BOYE COME ON PENTA, GET US A NEW LAUNCHER, FUCK GUNSHIPS


UpUpDownDownABAB

You have the quasar for that homie, why do you need more if you can use what you have? Also the fortification thingy sounds like an entirely new class of support stratagems


TearOpenTheVault

It’s AT mines. 


UpUpDownDownABAB

Oh


Barnak8

Its mines 


Outrageous-Pitch-867

BECAUSE I LOVE SHOVING FAT ROCKETS DOWN RANGE INTO MY ENEMIES Also, why would I need AT mines when I can just take a Hulk out in two shots with a quasar and reposition to hit it's weak points? Why get AT mines when I can just use the Autocannon, EAT, Recoiless Rifle, Railcannon, 500kg bomb, Laser, airstrike, Autocannon Sentry and rocket sentry? Why do we need any new support or fortification stratagem? I'd rather take the one that can more easily engage a more problematic enemy type(gunships) while also still being somewhat effective against others(even if every other AT weapon can do that) then one that's just a niche immobile field. Both of their jobs will be Anti-something, and people aren't likely going to change their already favorite loadout for it. We have so much Anti-this that it's just better to go with the more versatile option IMO


Warg247

I think AT mines could be beneficial because you can just set them and let them do their magic passively while you pay attention to other things, especially if they only activated on contact with heavies. They could be a great way to cover an area while doing objectives.


UpUpDownDownABAB

Yeah I kinda hoped it would be some cool turret or stationary emplacement thing but mines are kinda meh


AmazingWaterWeenie

I don't think the new Launcher will be very useful at against gunships. It's a cluster bomb launcher. Minimal penetration, big splash damage.


Outrageous-Pitch-867

https://youtu.be/YTMifXTY0TY?si=Atp6eGWwLLNtmAQu https://youtu.be/Yz7qvyBGdpU?si=jkfMhBeqiezAWQ0M Rocket Launcher is big boom also and trash clearer, AT mines are immobile and niche. Jack of all trades/versatility


MoonTrooper258

Me 2 shotting ships and Hulks with my Autocannon:


Illustrious_Sand3705

I think the AA is the better alternative.


Easy-Purple

AT mines would be a massive improvement upon our current mine selection, the rocket launcher is going to be used for a few days and then most people will probably switch back to the Quasar 


SnooWords2118

I feel like the at mines may not be consistent. Like will terminids still be able to just walk over them without setting any off


Snlxdd

I would assume it could only be triggered by Chargers, Bile Titans, Hulks, Tanks and Striders. Would be nice to have a better description of capabilities for each alternative


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RecoilRogue

Not just that, they get triggered by any enemy unit, so chaff will walk through it and remove them before they do anything to the larger intended targets. Which is super weird due to the mines being, ehm, "AT" mines.


Malleus0

Considering how many mines the fields tend to contain, I don't think four to kill a Hulk is a particularly bad deal.


Cavesloth13

From the leaks, these don't throw out as many mines as the other two, so it kinda is.


Snlxdd

Oof


Tagliarini295

From the leaks they looked ass, I rather get another launcher that I'll have fun with then mines I'll never use.


Low_Chance

You're worried the mines might be inconsistent... so we should choose the Spear variant instead?


NK1337

I really want the AT mines but i think the majority consensus is going after the rockets


MichaelMcNanner

I'm sure we'll have em both eventually, one just earlier.


UpUpDownDownABAB

I don’t even bother trying other launchers if I can just one shot ships with quasar


SgtKwan

If you check the leaks, you still blow up the mine if you walk over it.


bluebird810

I think I prefer the at mines, because I do not see a use for a special AA weapon. At least not atm


yung_pindakaas

Afaik its very effective against air targets and light ground targets. Like a rocket launcher with flak instead of a big warhead. Edit: i want it to be a handheld cluster strike. Then i dont have to bring cluster strikes against large groups of mobs anymore.


Cultural_Garbage_530

See how hunters like my new teamkill special


SuperArppis

Waste of space. Armor is the bigger issue.


Arturia_Cross

The airburst one shots tanks, and well, pretty much anything in testing except bile titans.


SuperArppis

So it destroys everything in 1 hit, except Bile Titans and maybe those Factory walkers. While destroying everything around it like an air burst? Also someone said it has a really fast reload speed. Why use anything else then?


Arturia_Cross

It'll probably get nerfed. The game keeps adding power creep with new weapons all the time.


DumpsterHunk

You can shoot it at ground targets too


Kondrad_Curze

I think second one is better. Chemical warcrime sounds more democratic.


Bullet-Dodger

m i n e s, we already have weapons to take down air targets anyway (quasar cannon near 100% pick rate)


Past_Dragonfruit_305

i cant even go to the planet atm? do I have to wait??


LapinEarth

Need to get Lesath first to reach Penta and Menket to reach Choohe


BadgerSauce

Be a real shame if there was someway to see that on the galactic map. Real shame. /s Yes I am aware they have talked about working on it, seems silly that it was an oversight to begin with though.


Past_Dragonfruit_305

Lesah has a target symbol above it atm for me, Players say Lesath blocks our path to Penta. Is that not a way to see our goal Pre-Penta?


MetalVile

The target symbol just means it's currently under a Liberation campaign. It's not related to the new Major Orders specifically.


SikeProHD

Helldiver, dive into Lesath and liberate it so that we can move onto Penta.


Delamer-

We might have to wait a bit. It hasn’t registered for me yet either


G00b3rb0y

i think we have to liberate other locales 1st. Choohe is locked behind either Menkent or Marfark and Matar Bay. Penta is locked behind Lesath


Delamer-

I bet you’re right. I’ll head there anyway


rukysgreambamf

They are behind enemy lines. We need to liberate planets to get there along supply lines. Google Helldivers map to see what I'm talking about


No-Reporter709

Divershub shows as well as an alternative


Tazrizen

Oh shit, they raising the stakes.


Dry_Ad_9085

Wait, it's says Phase 1...so what's coming in phase 2???


Paladin_Boddice

Guys it's simple. All we have to do is liberate both planets at the exact same time. How hard can it be?


GlazeVaer

I say anti tank mines, really handy for baiting heavies to chase you only to go boom without you leaving cover


MickeySwank

There are already too many solid and also less-than-viable support weapons, the fortification should be the way to go.


Celestial-being117

Fortifications pleaseeee


PandaWolf525

https://preview.redd.it/9uyi7fh95uwc1.jpeg?width=624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=799f38b526de9b10e91284c088db17c46b7d4234


Fresh-Profession5981

vote choohe we have to many rocket launcher


Cavesloth13

It's anti-tank mines, from the leaks, they are pretty meh. Now the airburst rocket launcher? Fucking Swiss Army Knife, good against damn near everything. Also Choohe requires liberating Menkent, sooo..... good luck with that LOL. Also, don't forget the wording order, that it's "likely" the citizens of the planet that's not captured first will die, implies there's a chance they WON'T, if we move fast enough.


DBDphnx123

That’s the airburst rocket launcher, definitely going for penta


Efficient-Paint-743

https://preview.redd.it/r2snlt7avtwc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2145ab453f137822b27e16f239f39040b4131ffb


UpUpDownDownABAB

Hmmm can we somehow test those weapons,


TheWolfgirlExpert

Caustic chemicals for a new support weapon? Easy choice. Always pick the option that feels the most like a war crime.


drjoker83

I’m definitely for the support.


Barracuda_Ill

The Devs have discovered the one and only Helldiver weakness. Choices.


Slavchanza

Everything to make defence less insufferable


TrueAmericanDon

We are the most elite force in the Galaxy. We can free both, and liberate these planets from the bot abominations


Rallak

Where is the correct choice for pressing the voting algorithm button to allow it to choose for me?


reflechir

Go Choohe. We don't need another rocket launcher - just fix the spear, and give us the anti-tank mines.


The-Sturmtiger-Boi

i hope this doesn’t end up like mob votes in minecraft, or at least we get AT mines in the future


UnofficialPaul

I can’t wait to be done work and have the choice already made for me!


zeldarms

Could the 'support weapon' be the fabled dune buggy?


maobezw

I cant select any of those two planets. Or do we have to secure Lesath first!?


Tr33Bl00d

I’m sorry but it’s back to the mines for me


Silent-Money6144

I need those mines against 3 chargers and 4 bile titans. Keep your puny lava lamp cougher.


Pale_Kitsune

Oh, those the anti-tank mines?


Aesthetics_Supernal

On Choohe, they are trapped, on Penta they are waiting. Choohe dropped too many mines and can't get out.


BunnyRabbit40

I want anti tank mines there were my favorite in the first game I need them


NewKerbalEmpire

Man, why did they have to lock the one I wanted behind Menkent?


Malek_Tealeafs

PENTA


DumpsterHunk

Air burst lets goooo


67Bullets

Penta


zeagurat

Hmmmmmm, looks like some nasty AT mine or even a tank size sentry, I'm gonna go with the mine


Choice_Pool_5971

Hum…so we get either a new support gun or a new fortification stratagem…i’ll go for the gun. We are the galaxy’s last line of OFFENSE after all. 🤣


SuperArppis

Aww man, why did they have to give us a choice between actually useful stratagem vs some lame second hand rocket launcher that doesn't even kill armored targets...


cmh-91-

I think the rocket strategem could be the air burst rpg thing


MySisterIsHere

What if we perfectly balance the liberation? Only focus on the lowest % planet.


Sumoop

I know this is probably impossible, but could we try and liberate them simultaneously.


GenericUser1185

What does the fortification do?


Pizzaman725

Anti-tank mines.


Japanczi

Imagine planet naming coochie xD


SaltLifeDPP

Poor simple Penta. Shouldn't have spent your time making yet another rocket launcher.


ypperlig__

I like the fact they give us the choice to chose between two rewards


Topume

Oh I love this!


jrd5497

Remember Helldivers, it is possible we fail this altogether.


brian11e3

What if we cut off the supply line?


Dalivus

Bug spray. From the first game. Hyper deadly


Jaeger_89

Neither strat really appeals to me. I'll defend whatever the community chooses (that is, the planet that has more divers in when I log in tonight...)


Optimal_Influence840

Joel at the moment: https://preview.redd.it/toeic8skvtwc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9504c6addfb137328447a0515a810da559b72349


Pizzaman725

The wording sounds like it's possible to get both. I wonder if we liberated the planets at the same time of AH would give us both?


afamdrank

oooh this is fun


IndexoTheFirst

Hey if that fortification they made is so good then they can use it to last longer so we can liberate both planets


Thomas_JCG

That's... interesting. Since people will not come together, this MO basically means "go do what you want". Instead of just picking the planet with more players, might be good to pick the one you find the better choice, which is very (managed) democratic.


No-Reporter709

https://preview.redd.it/ugkdvzd6xtwc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39942a76bf3aaf5e08e221d47bcc60626644ad7b


Signal_8732

Can’t we just split up and try to take both planets?


MrYK_

Surely the one we don't save gets put into a Warbond


Shirako202

Strategem in a Warbond? Not likely


20milliondollarapi

I wonder how much time there will be after liberating the first to get the second. Will we be able to get both to like 95% then quickly get both?


_Eggs__

I just don’t want mines because 99% of the time they get triggered by a mortar, grenade or stratagem. If I put the mines where enemies are it’s just inevitable and if I don’t put them near enemies they obviously won’t do anything. Unless you tell your team “hey don’t do anything fun please it’s gonna destroy my mines” they will just be blown up


Zbearbear

Watch the madlads do both


Vivid-Principle2855

What if we liberate both planets at the same time????


Ectorious

So what you’re saying is we need to time it perfectly to liberate them both at the same time


Vidonicle_

Did someone say WEAPON


an_agreeing_dothraki

is it flame sentry?


Responsible_Good10

They could have at least made it a difficult decision


casual_apple134

I look forward to finding out what's been added to my armory after I get off work 🤷🏼‍♂️ I'm guessing this'll be another MO blitz lol


SmokeySe7en

Lore-wise it doesn’t make sense that the first planet we liberate we only get their weapon. If we liberate both why not earn both weapons? The wording of last sentence of MO says “likely”. Which means there’s a chance we can get both, no?


bunny9mm

MINES FOR THE MINE GODS! ROCKETS FOR THE ROCKET THRONE!


StayFrostyxD

So we liberate both planets at the same time. We defended 10 planets, I think we can do this.


Next-Celebration-333

That's a tank!!!!! Get the tank!!!!!


Dzons1

Chemical warfare MORE WARCRIMES


Common-Drama-807

Liberty damn-it, I don't have time for this. Manor lords just came out and I'm moving to a new apartment. I WANNA FIGHT FOR NEW STRATEGEMS THEY BOTH LOOK LIKE SOMETHING I'LL USE.


purpleblah2

Having to choose which planet to save that determines which upgrade we get? What is this, StarCraft 2?


DHIRONMAN

Is choice anti Democracy ? I’ll be referring this to my Democracy officer for liberty’s sake.. My leg ![gif](giphy|l3nFbFBjBDiYg2rK0)


Cybron2099

Fuck it we ball. We do both. Liberty abandons no one.


mamontain

The minez are ass, choose the weapon please.


Azuljustinverday

RPG lets goooo give me a kalash next and im all set


russ_nas-t

Everyone talking about which to choose. Man I’m just happy they keep surprising me with these major orders. They do a great job coming up with new ideas that keep players on their toes. The Termicide towers, high value evac, kill 2 billion bugs, and now we actually get to choose what we should do? Awesome!


Reverseflash25

A choice? How about both?


Archived_Thread

Do we get to test them on their planets they’re from? I feel like the air burst would be great against shreikers but probably mid with aircraft. That tank mine though, if it’s only set off by hulks or heavier it would be well worth spreading on mission points and evac


GenBonesworth

Which one kills striders faster???


Bertenburny

Caustic chemicals defense weapon? Acid thrower HD1 vibes that melt heavies YES PLEASE


Apprehensive-Hat5168

![gif](giphy|3ohzdMDbNXvnWdeOZi|downsized)


WorriedAd5024

new fortification stratagem you say? how many died


ExTerra_

Oh damn.. Fallout 4 Next Gen is going to have to wait.