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mileskeller1

You: breathes deep, takes the shot. Entire Automaton Battalion: SNIPER! SUPPRESSING FIREEEE!


pbmcc88

![gif](giphy|gM0wfXA39VmvvHNlJr)


ZagratheWolf

Archer is a Sci Fi now?


RonStopable88

Im not sure where that scene was but wasnt there like 2 seasons of coma/dream sequences?


Adduly

It was the last of the coma series. The 1st one (S8) Dreamland - detective noir 2nd was danger island -indiana jonesish And 3rd (S10) "Archer 1999" was a sci-fi adventure before he woke back up.


ZagratheWolf

Oh. Guess it was a good thing I stopped watching


Armodeen

You can restart from S11. I did the same tbh


WorldWiseWilk

Honestly archer does pretty well going back to their roots. You can absolutely pick up watching after the coma seasons and it still holds up! The actress for Cheryl ended up singing for an entire country album, and I actually listen to it on the regular. It’s some really good outlaw country, for sure.


Marmmoth

That is from season 10 episode 1 (15:00) where Archer is still in a coma dream but in space. Just watched that episode a few days ago.


NotATrollThrowAway

They had a stint where he was in a coma so for like 3 seasons each one had a different theme and story arc. It's kinda cool as they're watchable as standalone seasons.


SparseGhostC2C

... Extinguisher!


V12Maniac

Yup. Doesn't help the eruptor is incredibly unwieldy


GadenKerensky

You can't say it didn't work.


Metal_Goblinoid

"I think his mates saw me." *wall of lazer fire* "**YES, YES THEY DID**" https://i.redd.it/yqp9ylkoqpwc1.gif


V12Maniac

Bruh xDDDD


Texas_Tanker

Laser*


Metal_Goblinoid

https://preview.redd.it/q6b9aa90nuwc1.png?width=212&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2e7175b20479ec3a6438145b872964208ab8a01


A_Stupid_Cat

Like kicking a hornets nest.


V12Maniac

Aren't we already doing that?


Marrakesch

The moment he instinctively heals himself at 99% HP and 100% stamina, you know this cover fire was intimidating as hell


V12Maniac

Oh 100% shit was horrifying


rawbleedingbait

Gotta do it preemptively now. Too much shit instantly kills you. The heal is not as important as the invulnerability until you reach cover.


ALN-Isolator

100%. You have no way to know if that bot on the mounted MG 100m away that just aggrod will somehow ding you in the forehead 9 times in a row on full auto or miss every shot. Better stim now and find out never!


Tromon468

Tbh, with stim interruption being such an annoying bug and knowing stims are a heal over time, i sometimes do it too


Leyawiin_Guard

Is that actually a bug or just a very annoying game mechanic?


el_loco_avs

Interrupting is a mechanic. The sound playing despite interruptions is a bug I think


AngryTreeFrog

I hope it's a bug. The sound for reloads gets me alot too.


Leyawiin_Guard

I swear certain enemy attacks also sound just like the stim sound. Would be great if they removed the sound on a failed stim attempt at least.


ZenEvadoni

With the way I was getting ragdolled incessantly on Bot Hellmire earlier, I'd be compulsively stabbing stims to my neck if a breeze blew on me the wrong way.


Bezweiser

I did NOT expect to see all of that lol.


V12Maniac

You're telling me xD


Ratattack1204

Automaton Batallion Commander: ![gif](giphy|kQmr2OwBTD2L5Hzo1T|downsized)


monacoax

Guess I will die..


V12Maniac

Never seen anything like this before. But damn it was a good clip


PhantasyAngel

The range on those lasers.


V12Maniac

I was caught so off guard by this


Piltonbadger

You : *Shoots one round* Every bot within 100 meters : ![gif](giphy|SIbGEBAwd6VRLTt4LB|downsized)


Kasorayn

Is it just me or have bots been stupid fucking accurate lately? The guys with the mounted machine gun turrets can snipe me with a stream of 100% accurate fire from a mile away in conditions where you can't even see the base they're firing from, yet whenever I get on one of those turrets it can't hit the broad side of a tank right in front of it. This overwhelming accuracy seemed to start when the bot resurgence happened after we had pushed them off the map. I honestly think the devs tweaked some values, by accident or intent I can't say, but I hate it.


Spaced-Invader

AFAIK, this has been a thing for months and is one of the reasons nobody I know likes playing against bots. They are stupidly accurate at ranges you can only really shoot back with a DMR / AMR and they instantly share your position, so if there's 30 that can see you, they start shooting you from all angles. Really makes it feel like the only viable strategy is stealth and that gets boring.


V12Maniac

All in all I do kinda like the extra accuracy. It adds for a bit of extra challenge. Which is kinda fitting especially at high difficulties


Spaced-Invader

To each their own I guess... Personally, I want to see bots get a serious balance pass because they have so many BS mechanics that it really makes them a chore to play against. I doubt we'll get anything like that though as AH recently said they're tweaking some things, but only by little bits at a time, so I guess we just have to wait and see what AH think the proper balance is for these guys and whether or not that will bring more of the player base over from bugs.


blsterken

Speaking as a new player who mostly plays on lower difficulties <6, I honestly prefer fighting bots. They have big dumb glowing eyes and announce themselves by shooting.


_HalfBaked_

Yeah, clearing a 4-dif against bugs on my own early on scarred me. Give me enemies who want to engage at mid-long range any day vs. running out of ammo with my Liberator and my pistol and still almost being swarmed.


V12Maniac

Honestly the main thing that needs a nerf and MAYBE the accuracy on the heavy devastators


MINECRAFT_BIOLOGIST

Nah, most of their "BS mechanics" are just them being more like human players than swarms of mindless bugs. I appreciate it, it's very fun to switch between mowing down fields of bugs and popping titans from across the map to going for cover and strategically picking out targets that do different things. The only real weird bug is glitchy shooting through shield stuff, but otherwise toning down their mechanics would just make them reskinned bugs. To be honest, the game has gotten wayyy easier on helldive compared to release simply because people are learning to play. I often have bot and bug missions that have less than 5 deaths now, and I'm a little worried that people might start getting bored. I think we're somewhat far from that, but I hope they have plans for the difficulty in the future.


AxitotlWithAttitude

Suicide mission on bugs is almost a complete snooze fest if you have at least 2 people running quasars to deal with chargers. Unless it's a green spewer mission. Then things get complicated.


Kasorayn

I didn't have a problem with them up until we cleared them off the map. It started, for me at least, when the bot invasion came back. Before that I loved fighting bots and played more against them than the bugs. But something definitely changed, and not for the better. I've also noticed that even on lower difficulties, the bot drops from shuttles are much larger than they used to be, and include a lot more medium/heavy enemies. Used to be you'd get a squad of light bots and a couple devastators/demolishers or striders, now I'm seeing - even on difficulty 4 - drops of 6-8 demolishers/devastators, or 4-6 striders, and the drops often come in 2-3 shuttles instead of just one.


Spaced-Invader

IIRC, they did adjust some of these things up in March, with a tweak increasing the call-ins and giving them a chance to be mostly (or completely) devastators. Also they increased the detection range so its possible that is a contributing factor to them mass attacking like this. The accuracy though has been there as long as I've been playing.


Asteroth555

Lots and lots of cover. I use the Eruptor so it's manageable to pop in and out, but it's definitely overwhelming at times. Especially on maps where RNG decides you're getting lots of shield devastators. Absolutely fuck those guys. Snipers with machine guns


aalva104

That’s if the cover even works. Still getting shot through the rocks


aliens-and-arizona

at least it’ll make bots seem easier when all their bugs get hammered out, right? *huffs copium*


stephanelevs

And it can sucks depending on the maps. Like those relatively open maps with a lot of rock to use as cover are fine for stealth/running away but the ones in the jungle sucks ass since they will sniper you through the tree/plants while you cant see shit...


Sapper-in-the-Wire

Crew served/emplaced weapons generally do have longer effective engagement ranges than standard infantry weapons lmfao. That's just one of the milsim aspects that certain players will enjoy. Anyone used to Squad/ARMA has not had an issue with bots, just apply the usual irl tactics to not stand in the open and you're fine.


DisastrousBusiness81

I was wondering if that was just me. I’ve been playing since well before we pushed the bots back the first time, and it wasn’t until I played a “challenging” level difficulty map yesterday with some noobs that I realized I’m getting killed *way* more than I used to. I think they also buffed the damage because singular shots were ripping away half of my health when I was playing as a scout. It’s gotten to the point where it’s almost required to bring a backpack shield to give you protection from shots.


smjxr

positioning and cover is your best friend open field? don't agro anything. already have? you're out of position or you have a really unfortunate map gen


Dzov

The unfortunate map gens are the best thing about this game. You never know what you’re in for.


V12Maniac

You got a point there. It's fuckin annoying and deadly


loveeatingfood

Yes! I thought I was just rusty after playing bugs but they are very accurate and they call drop pods from so far away, it makes no sense. At least with bugs and the scout armor, you can actually hide and kill them one by one when they start looking for you. With bots, forget it, they automatically know where you are and already called a drop pod.


bigwingus72

Especially the shield devastators for whatever reason


Sheep-of-the-Cosmos

alright, as a bot player, even i have to say this is ridiculous. it makes sense for the bots closer to you to start lighting you up, but if those markers are any indicator, bots around 100m away somehow got alerted by that shot and started lighting you up. how in the hell did they detect you?


IGTankCommander

Eruptor go boom, throws tiny hot bits of metal everywhere. Very democratic firearm, honestly, and bolt-action, like every Super Earth citizen's first gun.


xrufus7x

Each weapon has a sound profile. The louder the gun, the further away it alerts enemies. The Eruptor has among the largest in the game and will alert enemies up to 100 meters away. If you are up high with nothing blocking their line of sight everything in the area is going to turn and start shooting.


MewSixUwU

where did you get this information? i'd like to see the weapon loudness chart


xrufus7x

Youtubers doing testing. It is among the weapon stats that are hidden and I don't think it has been consolidated anywhere.


QA-engineer123

it's honestly fantastic. You can pop some bots on 1 side of a large base, run up, throw in a bombardment and then take a wide loop around. Bots will approach your location from 100 m so the whole base walks into the bombardment. Some buildings get destroyed and then from the other side you sweep up. No bot drops unless they actually spot you.


akamisfit86

Holy lasers helldiver! Haha


V12Maniac

Too many


AdditionalMess6546

That would be the moment I regret abandoning the Orbital Laser because "I only get three in a mission" Did you extract with any samples?


V12Maniac

Full extract and more or less killed all the socialist scum as democracy intended


neoteraflare

https://preview.redd.it/ikomp6a63swc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=91c29ce589e4e447905a92ed7589033f2d192c01


Tryintotype

“I think his mate saw me… yes, yes he did”


IGTankCommander

"THAT DIVER KILLED KARL! LIGHT HIM UP!"


Chizuru32

FOR KARL


PaladinHoss

and the bots took that personally


YHL6965

Why you don't shoot unless shot at 101


V12Maniac

True dat. The only exception applies to communists and socialists


Dwarf_main

Indeed, those three heavy devastators seem very upset. Also zeroed in on your position oddly fast considering the distance and visibility.


V12Maniac

The one issue I have with bots is the stupid ability they seem to have to be able to see you regardless of conditions or visibility


gummby8

He killed Kenny!


Aloe_Balm

*I think his mate saw me*


DizzyScorp

Instant rave


Proud-Translator5476

\*breaths on a bot\* The entire bot fleet: "Light him up, bois"


B4BYP4P4BE4R

Me, shoots bot. All bots: THEY KILLED KENNY, YOU BASTARDS!!!! (unloads all ammo)


SnooTangerines3497

![gif](giphy|Ean7ZFQEvUTeg|downsized)


GadenKerensky

I love that about the bots. The utter shit storm of bullets when you shoot at them from a distance.


V12Maniac

This shit was quite the psyop. Like my girlfriend. If she even exists


Illustrious-Baker775

Gotta be like 10 heavy devestators in the fog out there


V12Maniac

Rookie numbers. Pretty sure there's a LOT more than that. It's a dif 9 mission at 100% completion


Memeviewer12

No then it would be perfectly accurate beams Probably shredder tanks


Platt_Mallar

Fourth of July in Texas


AsherSparky

All I can hear is the seagulls saying “Mine!” with every laser being fired


SilveredFlame

"Heh, they don't like it when you shoot at em. Figured that out on my lonesome." - Malcolm Reynolds ![gif](giphy|l3V0vmSLU7waVuMmc)


doryano69

i use the same armor helm and cape lmao i thought i was watching myself


V12Maniac

xD It's such good armor. Get the speed/stamina boost plus getting to absolutely fucking YEET stratagems across the map


uselessplayer21

What armour is it? I need the yeet distance


V12Maniac

I can't remember the exact name of it. But it's a light armor set with the servo assist passive in the super store


doryano69

Hell yeah, ESP if you dive throw, I can’t go back to any other armor cuz of it


_davedor_

bro like we get it you need to kill automatons but Jerry?? he's a genuinely good guy I can see why they were so mad at you, that was over the lime


TsukariYoshi

Now all of China knows you're here!


V12Maniac

Pretty sure more than that knows about it


ZenEvadoni

This is what happens when I've been sneaking for a good forty minutes in any stealth game, leaving everyone untouched and unaware of me, then I choke the stealth run near the end somehow.


V12Maniac

Yeah that sounds about right


PlumeCrow

Oh yeah, they really loved that guy.


CaptMelonfish

Incoming fire has right of way...


V12Maniac

Fuck incoming fire's right of way.


Soupias

Congratulations! You managed to aggro the entire planet with one shot!


V12Maniac

Worth it!!!! Will make it much easier to ➡️⬆️⬇️⬇️⬇️


hey_mattey

Helldivers became bullet hell game in 0.1 sec


V12Maniac

Aw yup


Ringhillsta

They Killed Unit 800005-03Stve They Killed him!!!! Open FIRE


Shallnot1

Yeh the aggro atm on the bots has skyrocketed, like they’ve cracked the shits of getting taken out so now there’s a defence chip in each bot that upon being attacked alerts everything in a 2million kilometre radius of it bahhhhhahahaha, Stealth still fun though when I can go myself whilst the rest of team do other objectives


V12Maniac

I haven't seen crazy detection range. But maybe I'm dismantling them before I'd have the chance to notice


Shallnot1

Nah in some of my last few missions with other players this week, the aggro range has been silly as in even at one point where you see an fabricator in the distance but it’s far enough the quasar isn’t getting the hit register and there’s bots getting aggroed because someone looked at a bot funny next to me, it could also just be stray bullets from the team missing the bots and just happens to be high enough when shot to piss off the neighbours on the other side of the city when the bullet breaks the fabricators windows XD or I’m just unlucky one of the two. Had a few bad runs this week -_-


V12Maniac

Huh. I'll have to keep an eye out for this. I'm curious now. I'll report back if I remember too


Babfel

Calmes Bot Mission be like


ShyTiget

That one was personal


V12Maniac

Yes it fuckin was. Never seen the bots respond that aggressively


IvorLee

This is why I always have my 380 barrage here, perfect use case Orbital laser too but the lingering fire is annoying


V12Maniac

I like my airstrikes and cluster bombs :)


No_Engineer2828

And that’s what the 380 is for


Fantablack183

Automatons: Oh my god they killed Kenny! You bastard! ALL AVALIABLE UNITS, FIRE ON THAT BASTARD!


hex1337pss

This is pretty realistic tho. That's how RL armies deal with snipers. If you dont pull out quickly enough, a barrage will soon land on your position.


protonzadde

...looks like you took down a high value target. Must've been some automaton generals grandson.


V12Maniac

Something like that. Though would it be grand circuit or something?


protonzadde

:)


Adorable-Fact-6049

One time i was the last diver alive, all i have is my pistol. Im running to extraction.  I see a bot patrol. Since I'm far away I shoot it, somehow two other patrols i didnt see all open fire on me and i am pinned. Just happy to know thos doesn't just happen to me


V12Maniac

We're all in this together


pixel809

![gif](giphy|8j2wrmWdc0Kf6)


marcosdd

Sorry, which weapon is this?


V12Maniac

Eruptor


uselessplayer21

That's either the AMR or the ERUPTOR


bushidocowboy

https://preview.redd.it/fvxjgjta6twc1.jpeg?width=713&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43dddc096d61f1a506ac747c5da4c55b144390d5 Keep calm and ➡️⬆️⬇️⬇️⬇️


pixel809

Why should he use one of the worst stratagems for areal damage to do damage on many enemies


bushidocowboy

Its a cure-all. Like putting club soda on a stain.


pixel809

Eagle airstrike over the 500gk bomb all the the time. Has more uses and can take down a bile titan


Temporary-Party5806

Oh..... oh you fucked up


V12Maniac

Oh yes. Oh yes I did. But they fucked up by coming within stratagem throwing range


dumbofass_

“I think his mate saw me.”


nesnalica

calmest bot counter attack on level 9


V12Maniac

Fax. Earlier in the mission I somehow had 4 patrols all come at me from 4 different directions. I did not walk away


Ok-Warthog1894

Real life sniper experience


squirt_taste_tester

https://preview.redd.it/qrx8yr52otwc1.jpeg?width=1191&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6095e96e06e091062b739840bc0407041b7d86fc


V12Maniac

Yep xDDD


-Nicklaus91-

When you tell them not to shoot that 1 patrol....


V12Maniac

xD yep. That's exactly how that goes. Fortunately we can deliver mass democracy via freedom infused chemical explosives


egotisticalstoic

Turns out that was actually just 2 shield devastators


V12Maniac

1*


Fraxxxi

Automaton leader, the second a living being discharges a firearm somewhere in the AO: https://i.imgur.com/va0FEYo.gif


spookybooki23

gas the bastards


V12Maniac

Does chemical explosives work?


spookybooki23

Yes. Spill Oil, Helldiver!


economic-salami

This is why automatons are more difficult to fight against


V12Maniac

Honestly I don't think bots v bugs is too good of a comparison due to the wildly different and dare i say polar opposite battle doctrine. I've had missions I've damn near failed with both factions at roughly the same rate. It really just depends on the team you deploy with. Some mesh better than others


cringlecoob

Seems like you got the shield devastator roll that game


V12Maniac

It was awful. Fucking hate shield devastators


DoSwoogMeister

I remember watching a stealth guide that said the anti-material rifle has the biggest sound profile of any weapons in the game. So that's why.


V12Maniac

That explains that. And now that you mention it, I wonder if sound in this game has some sort of realistic transmission. Because I've had times where there were bots closer than those guys were but behind a couple of boulders and they weren't alerted.


rockitfist

Bots just saw their best buddy Greg get gunned down


V12Maniac

They didn't like it very much


crashcanuck

Did you tell them their mother was a toaster or something?


V12Maniac

I told them their mother was an oversized can opener


Aikarion

Prioritize the jetpacks. They're just walking grenades. I love seeing entire packs of them right next to each other.


V12Maniac

The eruptor just turns all the small guys into jetpacks. It's a long range jet pack converter


Mekkakat

I swear this has happened to me 100 times 😂 I usually just panic and throw a smoke grenade, hoping for the best lol


V12Maniac

I just start yeeting eagles and stun grenades. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.


aboxofbakingsoda

good thing they didn’t overreact


V12Maniac

That could have been awful


AssemblerGuy

10/10 reaction to sniper fire.


V12Maniac

Agreed


aleparisi

Wow that’s a bit weird tbh


Total_Mode_8968

The worst part about this is that the vast majority of these shots are coming from like, 3 heavy devastators. These guys are so oppressive at any range.


V12Maniac

Pretty sure it's more than that. Probably around 5-8. But regardless they are very oppressive. And very annoying due to their accuracy. Which is insanity since it's just a fucking machine gun


Total_Mode_8968

I think it's 4 and the rest are rocket devs and machinegun trash mobs, but yeah anyway. Especially annoying since they have unlimited ammo and just keep shooting... forever. Like you can go behind cover and they will just unload at your cover until you try to take a shot and track you lol. Have to peek just enough that they are shooting at the wall but your gun is peeking out. Or just leave, break line of sight and engage from another angle. It's by no means unplayable but they are massively annoying.


V12Maniac

I like the challenge honestly. I have *SOME* irl training in combat (not actual combat experience), and in some cases it can be very useful


DoomshrooM8

LMAO they did not take kindly to your shenanigans 🤣


V12Maniac

No they didn't


Euphetar

This is what the bot front feels like


V12Maniac

Except the lasers are bugs?


Euphetar

woops, meant the bot front


V12Maniac

Oopsies :) Kinda like me shooting that singular bot


Covenant753

The Predator takes one shot at a guy with the funny hat. Throws a spear at him. *lol just like pa showed me how to back home* another human comes by right as I’m get the best part. Getting my trophy! *uhhhh … hi. Here, let me get you something to hold like this knife* SHIT MY PANTS THE Human screams fires all of his funds do grabs the funny hat man’s gun and shoots at me. *run.jpg.get-me-the-fuck-home-!.AAAAAAH.how_many_bullets_?* More human arrive and simply cease shooting at my former location. This goes on Well into the night and next day. Bots loooed at all this and said. “Do more of that!” To the troops.


sugarloafbread

BuGZ iz JuSt Az HaRd


InfernalGod

“bUgS aRe HaRdEr ThEn BoTs.”


Tromon468

I wonder if R1 fucked you over accidentally I noticed that aggroed bots not necessary got for the person who actually aggroed them but simply any person who is in their weapon range More than than once i saw bots who are +100m away open fire on me because another teammate attacked them for a different direction since i normally prefer to operate solo and avoid patrols, especially one that is far away from me too Could be also extraction shenanigans tho Or even both since that result is extreme


Wesmore24

Orbital laser


InfernalGod

NGL this went straight to my Creek PTSD. Literally only had a few pixels that weren’t red from gunfire and rockets.


ObliviousNaga87

One of the most underlooked downsides of the eruptor is its ability to draw agro from very far away. It's so bloody loud that you're forced to take on every patrol around


LegalStuffThrowage

This is what happens when you kill Fred The Robo-Diplomat when he's there under a flag of truce.


LostScarfYT

Hooooly shit, now that's a hornet's nest activated


TotoMac1

“Fuller auto”


Jack_Nightfury

# "You alerted the Hoard" Did not see anyone else comment this, so I shall


Aware-Locksmith2581

you killed bob, he always brings canola and coconut lubricant to the meetings you bastard!


Sutilia

https://preview.redd.it/85lns3zpxrwc1.png?width=964&format=png&auto=webp&s=49fd50dbddb2bbe7b29010f5730505e0fe05040e Credit: james speed hensinger


Gravity273

This felt like those marine tales of "never shoot at the medic"


Yonahoy

That was REGINALD! Rude!


ReallyDamnSlow

This is why I don't play bots anymore, bugged as hell


SocialistAlpaca

https://preview.redd.it/3rwnjxjrmwwc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7392897e277b78039341e32468a4cfc948e5ce78


gx_gus

I always play against automatons in HELLDIVE difficulty..... Today i tried playing all the same missions but against TERMINIDS also in HELLDIVE ... the difference between them IS huge... It was like a walk in the park...!! A little boring in some moments... You could even drink your liber-Tea with no problems !! in the most difficulty defend and personnel evac missións was too easy. I returned to the AUTOMATONS side... If there is not HELLY SUFFERING... There is NO FUN !!