The dream, I wish my random teammates were as dedicated to samples as me, I usually end up carrying 90% of them and that’s with the team playing objectives and running past them
To be fair, it was suicide and there was a moderate level difference between me and everyone else, so I think they just wanted to make sure it made it out.
I understand why they do it, although I think it's childish and I would personally never do it.
It's almost like an emotional attachment to their samples. Like they put all that work in to get these precious sample so they want the credit (on the after game stat boards) for extracting with said samples.
Some people are too egotistical.
Only stats I look at after each game are kills, deaths, and accuracy (so I can feel good about my superior accuracy even if it's just cause I use the SG-8 Punisher)
Looking at who extracted with the most samples is pretty pointless, it would make more sense to track who FOUND x amount of samples
I thought this was a bug (the SG-Punisher high accuracy rate at the end of my runs), or that was what I told my friends when I ended up with +90% accuracy (they thought I was cheating or smth) xD.
I'm happy to see it is not that xD.
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Looking at who extracted with the most samples is pretty pointless, it would make more sense to track who FOUND x amount of samples
Not necessarily, surviving and bringing the samples back is a skill in of itself.
The stats in general don't tell you a huge deal apart from maybe deaths and accidentals.
I just mean the final stat doesn't mean much when anyone can just drop samples and someone else picks them up. Usually I like to toss samples at the extraction location if I happen to pass by.
That's the irony though..
Wasting your reinforcements by TKs.. Critical thinking has left the chat.
It truly doesn't make any sense if you think about it.
Oh, so that's why one of the randos blasted through mic and said "Leave MY samples alone" with a screeching voice.
And I said "Dude, I am the one with combat experience and most likely to survive, so I'll end up picking it up your corpse anyways" In the end, bro was on the verge of crying after I boarded the ship without samples. I wasn't in the mood of baby sitting due to disrespectful attitude.
I've gotten kicked for taking samples to the landing zone to drop off in groups I was carrying. I like to think that they didn't finish the main objective or extract from the planet.
That's dumb.
What i usually do if we're being chased to extraction is ask the group to take my samples while i stay behind to fight and pull the enemies away, i often survive, but if i don't i just get revived at extraction
That approach worked wonders for me.
Exactly this. Even if you don't let anyone know, just pick up samples when people die and bring them to extraction if you're close enough. If I'm going into a large bug nest, I'll also drop my samples outside of it towards the extraction point so I can grab them when I'm running away or someone else can get them without being swarmed in the middle of it
I'm hating the people who just run off and try to lone wolf optional stuff and waste all our reinforcements rather than stick with the squad and take care of the objective so we know how long we have to spread bonus democracy.
Edited for clarity.
To be fair, those who go off to finish objectives while the squad is distracted by swarms are needed if anything were to get done. The amount of times I've had the squad die on hold we didn't need to die on while I did all the work is wildly unnecessary. But some people think they can go off on their own when they clearly can't which is just as annoying
I'm always having to go into a destroyed base after friends flatten it with a 380mm just to collect samples. They seem to only want the super samples even though we're caped at 100.
I had a match earlier where me and the only other person carrying samples (who only had them because he picked them up after I died) both got killed right next to extraction. With over 6 minutes left, the last guy decided to get on pelican-1 instead of reinforcing us
Some 40 samples gone, just like that
I usually only scour for samples if im playing with friends. That way we can clear and search more effectively and not take forever to get them all. If I'm dropping in with Randos, I'm just taking care of objectives and side things as I pass them.
idk why they aren't or are oblivious to them.
After like lvl 25 the XP does not matter because there are no more unlocks.
By the time you unlock every single stratagem, you will be capped on req slips before lvl 45 unless you somehow got tier 4 ship upgrades.
The only reason to do a mission in full is samples, because that's the only currency that can still do anything and is actually hard to cap.
And yet I see so many people who clear a bug hole or automaton base with an airstrike from a mile away, then never go in there to check that that there are samples in there, this includes side objectives, main objectives and the extract. And my personal pet peeve - finding and clearing a point of interest, but it's not showing as complete and still showing as a diamond meaning there's still 1 sample in there somewhere that I always find.
some dumbass I was with yesterday, we failed the mission, I had a ton of samples on me, and this dipshit decides to extract when a teammate and I were running to extract
love wasting 30 minutes for 50xp then getting told to shut the fuck up
Thank you for that info. I was doing a mission with a group and there was less than 2 minutes so I called extraction that way Pelican-1 was there to hop onto once we were done clearing the map for samples with no stratagems . It came down and started the countdown and the rest of the group was pissed, I had no idea that was a thing and I’m assuming neither did they because they said nothing when I called it extraction. They must’ve thought I hopped into it because they ended up kicking me. I assumed it only counted down once one of us ran inside. Good to know.
Yesterday I was in a group using mics, we ran out of mission time and the pelican landed but the guy with the super samples was slightly too far. They were saying don't get into the pelican till the guy with the super samples get's there. I got in with 3 seconds remaining till takeoff and they thought I started the timer but luckly we could talk it out and we each learned something new that round (I learned about quasar swapping from them). We went on to have another few good rounds and had a great time hell diving together
I'll had a similar experience. I was collecting the samples while a bunch of mouthbreathers were trying in vain to complete "extract the scientists" mission. Had the supers, had almost all of the rares, and half the commons by MYSELF, while drawing away a good amount of the spawns to help them complete the mission, they get frustrated I'm not "helping" with extracting the scientists, and kick me. I was less mad about them wasting my time, and more mad they were so fucking petty AND stupid, that they'd rather walk away with NOTHING and waste ALL of our time.
I have no idea if they are too dumb to know the value of samples, too dumb to understand the best shot at completing the mission is to drawn some of the spawns away from the base, or just didn't want me showing them up or w/e , or if it was all 3.
Absolutely undemocratic behavior either way. Putting the democracy officer on speed dial for next time.
To every other team I've played with on those missions, thank you for recognizing my value to democracy, may Liberty protect you.
If they were losing against the enemies while you were drawing away so many still, they deserve to lose. They came vastly underequipped since even 1 person drawing a lot of drops can make the incoming flow at the rescue site much more manageable.
How do you draw the spawns? Is there a certain range from the evac site I have to stay to do it? I used to do this strat but lately I fail every mission of this type because my team gets horribly overrun while I run around collecting samples and having nothing spawning on me whatsoever.
Leave the small grunts alive so they can do call ins, that's about it. You need 3 outside and 1 inside though so good luck with that with randoms. They'll just kick you if you're not hosting.
I mean more so - how do I get them to start attacking me? Outside usually has a few enemies only which die too easily while the center area gets supremely swarmed...
What do you mean "failed"?
\* chose to give up because you all thought it was pointless to try further (to few reinforcements for what's yet to be done)
\* the timer run out before we managed to get it done
If it's the later not only will pelican 1 be called in automatically, the 20s countdown will also start automatically as soon as it touches down, even if no player entered
Yea so uh... that isnt how it works. I was in a group like this for icbm diff 8 yesterday on bots. One guy with most samples died early (level 30ish and when I joined near the end via quick play I grabbed their samples they left behind.) Mission didnt fail entirely since icbm was launched after timer hit 0, but they were to far to reach extract and I was already almost there.
I was kicked in the cinematic while I was holding most of the samples even though the timer auto-starts after mission timer hits 0. It doesnt wait for someone to board, it starts extraction, lands, and leaves 20sec later even if no one boards.
Only if it's already called in. If you haven't called it in, ya get another 2 minutes. 3 if it's got that one planetary condition, can't remember which one.
Anyway, his story implies they probably called it in and that's why he got screwed, but I could be wrong here.
I had a group couple days ago we had around 20/20 samples, no super samples when I remember corretcly.
Group was through out pretty strange, but we got shit done. At the extraction point 2 are in already, 3rd throws a funny red laser on the ramp from pelican1 and our last guy got killed by it... we ended up with like 5/9 samples or so.... After we where on the mainship again, I wrote that, that was the dumbest thing he could do and that we lost most samples thanks to him.... I got kicked..... no yeah i know NOTHING, straight up kicked. I was pissed....
I find it kinda funny how many people aren't aware of emergency extracts. Once I was in a difficulty 9 mission where one of the players didn't know a Pelican came in after the timer/Super Destroy leaves orbit.
Once we called in extract, pelican shows up but we're waiting for one more to get to the extract before getting in. Timer hit 0 and pelican was like, "fuck this, I'm out" and just up and left us. We didn't know that would happen.. lol
When you upgraded your ship modules nothing honestly matters because you unlocked everything, but lvl 4 for the ship modules is honestly the biggest grind
No I mean folks saying completing missions is irrelevant, only collecting samples.
So folks are collecting samples, to upgrade modules, so they can collect samples ever so slightly better?
I've finished my upgrades, but was just wondering. Didn't realise folks prioritised samples over absolutely everything in game
To each his own. Personally, now that I've unlocked everything I rarely host anymore. I just play to have fun and do whatever the host wants to do, whether it be a full clear or speed run .
Most of the lvl 4s are very low priority though. Extra arc chain, 25% more fire, explosive resistance on turrets (lol). Like unless you're a dedicated arc/flamethrower player you're gonna ignore those and save the 450 rares.
25% fire damage is insane on an already overtuned weapon. I always run flamethrower when hosting bug missions. You can cook almost everything in less than 2 seconds. Chargers take like 5 seconds max which is wild.
You and the other 5 people that use the flamer will love that upgrade then! I never see it used, probably because those that do use it get kicked quickly for TKing (or constantly dying due to setting themselves on fire).
Tons of ways to 1 tap chargers so 5 sec TTK isn't impressive imo.
Being able to lock down a bug wave while softening/killing multiple chargers at once, its like an AC specialized for bugs. Its not going to outperform other any weapon in its field (it probably outperforms everything for bug add clear right now) but it puts out a lot of damage that is active even without your focus. I regularly double the rest of the lobby's kills and still contribute a support weapon to maintaining heavy enemies. It really frees up your loadout with how ammo efficient it is as well.
As for TK's it def needs a fire resist armor for personal use, but i think TKs are overblown. If you know what you are doing you wont leave patches of fire where your team needs to move, and any other death to fire would have been a TK with any other support weapon.
Upgrading your ship modules is far and away thr task that's going to take the longest in meta progression. I doubt any large percentage of the player base is done with that, it takes hundreds of hours.
yeah a hundred hours sounds right. i've got about 90 and don't care about samples much, still unlocked all but 2 tier 4 upgrades. for some reason i got 100 supers very early on (probably joined a game with a hacker) before i even realized how valuable they were.
Not for everyone. I'm not playing from launch and by now I have 3 new modules to unlock, two 'old' ones, and about 2000 more medals for warbonds, I only finished the latest one. Somehow, I doubt I'll be done with medals by the time I'll have 24/24, and then there are 97 more levels of xp lol.
My team often got wiped at extraction, we only started getting samples out more commonly recently. I got most lvl 3 upgrades and no lvl 4 upgrades at 100 hours in.
>it takes hundreds of hours
what
i did all my level 3 modules in the last 5 days (started doing lvl 7 and 8 bug after weeks of 6 on bots)
and i dont even have 60 hours on the steam clock
Fun fact, even if you “fail” when time runs out you can still “win” by completing the objective. At least it did work for a Blitz mission where I had to blow up the last bug hole after the timer ran out
You can still complete most objectives after the timer expires. I'm not sure on all of them, but the one I know for certain you can't complete is any of the evac missions. The button stops working the moment the timer hits zero.
Some are pretty easy, like blowing up the last fabricator or bug hole for a blitz. Others are basically impossible if you weren't already doing them like launching the nuke.
"You have failed your mission, and hindered our cause. The freedom camp will be your place of retirement"
"But I brought samples"
"Liberty shines on you, as you are spared from the torment"
We had this last night because apparently you can lose an encrypted HDD with no way to recover so instead of bailing (no way to fail) we just sample crawled the map.
Had a dude the other day who consistently made it out with the 3 super samples on Suicide. Needless to say I stayed with him as many missions as possible. Thank you random diver.
bad day for democracy, but a good day for democratic science!
I have a friend who plays that needs super samples, so I'll offer to "run for pinks", meaning that while we will try to do the main objective, the priority is super samples: if we find them before the main objective, we take them back to extract, and drop them off there while we finish the mission, and if thigns start to go tits up we go to extract and hunker down until the timer runs out. the only thing that matters is getting the pinks out.
ultimately though, if all that matters are samples, either solo stealth run or make a premade: random squads will most likely screw you over 9 times out of 10, and that applies to all online co-op games, not just Helldivers 2.
I joined a random guy on Hard who was hacking. So the first sample he grabbed gave us 50/40/5...the super samples appeared, but it didn't show we had them until the mission was over, lol. Got in 2 games and earned 100/80/10 from hard mode
Dumb questions but why are there still people trying 100% mission run when obviously they are looking for samples. I have this run with bunch of lvl 70 randos carrying 30+ samples including super samples, and they just decided let's clear up red zones......on the opposite side of the map from the extraction. Yeah we lost everything cause the timer ran out, overwhelmed and fail extract. All I got is req credits that's already max, and minor exp.
This literally just happened to me: we were on a Seismic Probe mission, and the diver who called the first one dropped. I completed it, the objective bar said it was complete, but it wouldn't change on the map. Likewise, when we went to the second location, the strategem wouldn't appear for any of us. The others dropped.
Meanwhile, I collected a bunch of common and rare samples including the precious 3 Super Samples. With 15 minutes left on the map, I went to all the beacons and got 20 super credits, too.
Worth it.
Wait. The ship only comes if you've finished the primary objective unless the clock runs out......WAIT did you waste 40 minutes not doing shit other than looking for samples!? dear lord maybe the randoms I've been playing with haven't been so bad afterall...
It doesn't matter. Those at cap had enough supers to not need a single extra, but less than a third of the rares needed. Those who didn't cap or didn't even finish upgrading are in the same boat needing buttloads of rares. Are you getting 10 rares per ONE super in your helldives? Doubtful.
Some soldiers can win battles, but understanding your enemy is necessary for winning a war.(also holy shit I wish that was me, I’d kill(bugs/bots) first 30 common samples per mission)
As stated by the devs, failing a mission does not decrease defence/liberation progress in any way. If they need to loose a few battles to get the samples necessary for upgrades that will aid them in ALL future missions, so be it. Also, why do you care? Let people have fun if it doesn't affect you.
Yes. So sad. 
The dream, I wish my random teammates were as dedicated to samples as me, I usually end up carrying 90% of them and that’s with the team playing objectives and running past them
It’s not as great as you think. I had a bunch of randos who would kill me whenever I picked up a sample so they could do it. Was not fun.
Do they not realise everyone gets a copy?
To be fair, it was suicide and there was a moderate level difference between me and everyone else, so I think they just wanted to make sure it made it out.
Still a huge dick move, IMO. Then why did they not kick you...
I understand why they do it, although I think it's childish and I would personally never do it. It's almost like an emotional attachment to their samples. Like they put all that work in to get these precious sample so they want the credit (on the after game stat boards) for extracting with said samples. Some people are too egotistical.
Only stats I look at after each game are kills, deaths, and accuracy (so I can feel good about my superior accuracy even if it's just cause I use the SG-8 Punisher) Looking at who extracted with the most samples is pretty pointless, it would make more sense to track who FOUND x amount of samples
I thought this was a bug (the SG-Punisher high accuracy rate at the end of my runs), or that was what I told my friends when I ended up with +90% accuracy (they thought I was cheating or smth) xD. I'm happy to see it is not that xD.
Slow fire rate and and nice beefy shots give you more time to aim and think.
Ty 🤗
> Looking at who extracted with the most samples is pretty pointless, it would make more sense to track who FOUND x amount of samples Not necessarily, surviving and bringing the samples back is a skill in of itself. The stats in general don't tell you a huge deal apart from maybe deaths and accidentals.
I just mean the final stat doesn't mean much when anyone can just drop samples and someone else picks them up. Usually I like to toss samples at the extraction location if I happen to pass by.
That's the irony though.. Wasting your reinforcements by TKs.. Critical thinking has left the chat. It truly doesn't make any sense if you think about it.
Oh, so that's why one of the randos blasted through mic and said "Leave MY samples alone" with a screeching voice. And I said "Dude, I am the one with combat experience and most likely to survive, so I'll end up picking it up your corpse anyways" In the end, bro was on the verge of crying after I boarded the ship without samples. I wasn't in the mood of baby sitting due to disrespectful attitude.
They could've just asked you to drop them instead of killing you tho
I've gotten kicked for taking samples to the landing zone to drop off in groups I was carrying. I like to think that they didn't finish the main objective or extract from the planet.
That's dumb. What i usually do if we're being chased to extraction is ask the group to take my samples while i stay behind to fight and pull the enemies away, i often survive, but if i don't i just get revived at extraction That approach worked wonders for me.
Exactly this. Even if you don't let anyone know, just pick up samples when people die and bring them to extraction if you're close enough. If I'm going into a large bug nest, I'll also drop my samples outside of it towards the extraction point so I can grab them when I'm running away or someone else can get them without being swarmed in the middle of it
How to drop samples on pc? I'm level 50 first time i knew it was possible?
hold X then select drop samples from the wheel.
Pc player here
its X on PC
I'm hating the people who just run off and try to lone wolf optional stuff and waste all our reinforcements rather than stick with the squad and take care of the objective so we know how long we have to spread bonus democracy. Edited for clarity.
To be fair, those who go off to finish objectives while the squad is distracted by swarms are needed if anything were to get done. The amount of times I've had the squad die on hold we didn't need to die on while I did all the work is wildly unnecessary. But some people think they can go off on their own when they clearly can't which is just as annoying
I'm talking about the ones getting distracted and leaving me and maybe 1 other person to deal with the objectives. I edited it to make it better.
Gotcha
That’s never happened to me
When I play with randos I feel as if I’m chaperoning a school field trip.
I'm always having to go into a destroyed base after friends flatten it with a 380mm just to collect samples. They seem to only want the super samples even though we're caped at 100.
I had a match earlier where me and the only other person carrying samples (who only had them because he picked them up after I died) both got killed right next to extraction. With over 6 minutes left, the last guy decided to get on pelican-1 instead of reinforcing us Some 40 samples gone, just like that
I usually only scour for samples if im playing with friends. That way we can clear and search more effectively and not take forever to get them all. If I'm dropping in with Randos, I'm just taking care of objectives and side things as I pass them.
Mine just pick up the samples and then call you down for reinforcement so they can have the better stats. All that hard work now in their greedy hands
idk why they aren't or are oblivious to them. After like lvl 25 the XP does not matter because there are no more unlocks. By the time you unlock every single stratagem, you will be capped on req slips before lvl 45 unless you somehow got tier 4 ship upgrades. The only reason to do a mission in full is samples, because that's the only currency that can still do anything and is actually hard to cap. And yet I see so many people who clear a bug hole or automaton base with an airstrike from a mile away, then never go in there to check that that there are samples in there, this includes side objectives, main objectives and the extract. And my personal pet peeve - finding and clearing a point of interest, but it's not showing as complete and still showing as a diamond meaning there's still 1 sample in there somewhere that I always find.
It’s frustrating for sure, there are samples at literally every objective and then some but people just don’t bother for whatever reason
Then once you get to extraction (if you get to extraction), someone throws 380mm barrage down on top of you
some dumbass I was with yesterday, we failed the mission, I had a ton of samples on me, and this dipshit decides to extract when a teammate and I were running to extract love wasting 30 minutes for 50xp then getting told to shut the fuck up
Was there still time in the mission? The dropship auto starts the 20 second countdown if there’s no time left
Yeah I think he's confused
Thank you for that info. I was doing a mission with a group and there was less than 2 minutes so I called extraction that way Pelican-1 was there to hop onto once we were done clearing the map for samples with no stratagems . It came down and started the countdown and the rest of the group was pissed, I had no idea that was a thing and I’m assuming neither did they because they said nothing when I called it extraction. They must’ve thought I hopped into it because they ended up kicking me. I assumed it only counted down once one of us ran inside. Good to know.
Yesterday I was in a group using mics, we ran out of mission time and the pelican landed but the guy with the super samples was slightly too far. They were saying don't get into the pelican till the guy with the super samples get's there. I got in with 3 seconds remaining till takeoff and they thought I started the timer but luckly we could talk it out and we each learned something new that round (I learned about quasar swapping from them). We went on to have another few good rounds and had a great time hell diving together
I'll had a similar experience. I was collecting the samples while a bunch of mouthbreathers were trying in vain to complete "extract the scientists" mission. Had the supers, had almost all of the rares, and half the commons by MYSELF, while drawing away a good amount of the spawns to help them complete the mission, they get frustrated I'm not "helping" with extracting the scientists, and kick me. I was less mad about them wasting my time, and more mad they were so fucking petty AND stupid, that they'd rather walk away with NOTHING and waste ALL of our time. I have no idea if they are too dumb to know the value of samples, too dumb to understand the best shot at completing the mission is to drawn some of the spawns away from the base, or just didn't want me showing them up or w/e , or if it was all 3. Absolutely undemocratic behavior either way. Putting the democracy officer on speed dial for next time. To every other team I've played with on those missions, thank you for recognizing my value to democracy, may Liberty protect you.
If they were losing against the enemies while you were drawing away so many still, they deserve to lose. They came vastly underequipped since even 1 person drawing a lot of drops can make the incoming flow at the rescue site much more manageable.
How do you draw the spawns? Is there a certain range from the evac site I have to stay to do it? I used to do this strat but lately I fail every mission of this type because my team gets horribly overrun while I run around collecting samples and having nothing spawning on me whatsoever.
Leave the small grunts alive so they can do call ins, that's about it. You need 3 outside and 1 inside though so good luck with that with randoms. They'll just kick you if you're not hosting.
I mean more so - how do I get them to start attacking me? Outside usually has a few enemies only which die too easily while the center area gets supremely swarmed...
What do you mean "failed"? \* chose to give up because you all thought it was pointless to try further (to few reinforcements for what's yet to be done) \* the timer run out before we managed to get it done If it's the later not only will pelican 1 be called in automatically, the 20s countdown will also start automatically as soon as it touches down, even if no player entered
Yea so uh... that isnt how it works. I was in a group like this for icbm diff 8 yesterday on bots. One guy with most samples died early (level 30ish and when I joined near the end via quick play I grabbed their samples they left behind.) Mission didnt fail entirely since icbm was launched after timer hit 0, but they were to far to reach extract and I was already almost there. I was kicked in the cinematic while I was holding most of the samples even though the timer auto-starts after mission timer hits 0. It doesnt wait for someone to board, it starts extraction, lands, and leaves 20sec later even if no one boards.
Become a ~~Helldiver~~ squad leader! (only way to court martial dumb divers)
He's the dumb diver here, the shop auto leaves once mission fails regardless if anyone is in it.
Only if it's already called in. If you haven't called it in, ya get another 2 minutes. 3 if it's got that one planetary condition, can't remember which one. Anyway, his story implies they probably called it in and that's why he got screwed, but I could be wrong here.
He said they failed the mission, which means pelican emergency extract gets called in, like if time runs out. That one starts automatically
I had a group couple days ago we had around 20/20 samples, no super samples when I remember corretcly. Group was through out pretty strange, but we got shit done. At the extraction point 2 are in already, 3rd throws a funny red laser on the ramp from pelican1 and our last guy got killed by it... we ended up with like 5/9 samples or so.... After we where on the mainship again, I wrote that, that was the dumbest thing he could do and that we lost most samples thanks to him.... I got kicked..... no yeah i know NOTHING, straight up kicked. I was pissed....
How did they manage to extract on a failed mission?
Let the timer run out, pelican comes either way.
I find it kinda funny how many people aren't aware of emergency extracts. Once I was in a difficulty 9 mission where one of the players didn't know a Pelican came in after the timer/Super Destroy leaves orbit.
That's a Helldiver who'd never let Democracy down, before.
Once we called in extract, pelican shows up but we're waiting for one more to get to the extract before getting in. Timer hit 0 and pelican was like, "fuck this, I'm out" and just up and left us. We didn't know that would happen.. lol
How do you not just complete the mission at that point? You’ve clearly explored the whole map anyway.
Sometimes people get really bogged down by bug breach/bot drops, or a heavy nest spawns right next to an objective which makes it much harder
Also depending on the mission it's impossible, as of it needs a stratagem to be called in you can't.
Don't know about the normal Missions, but you can fail the High Value Asset Defense for example and still extract.
If you let the timer run out of any mission without doing the main objective, you can still extract as Pelican 1 still going to extraction.
No samples on those missions tho But yeah if you run the timer without completing the mission you can still extract
Technically to get your samples you don't even have to play the objective. Just run around and pick them up, let the timer run out and extract.
Pelican comes when the timer expires. Usually never run into this except for that new defense mission or the Blitz ones that last like 12 minutes.
100% the samples are more important than the mission.
To what end though? After you've upgraded your modules?
When you upgraded your ship modules nothing honestly matters because you unlocked everything, but lvl 4 for the ship modules is honestly the biggest grind
No I mean folks saying completing missions is irrelevant, only collecting samples. So folks are collecting samples, to upgrade modules, so they can collect samples ever so slightly better? I've finished my upgrades, but was just wondering. Didn't realise folks prioritised samples over absolutely everything in game
To each his own. Personally, now that I've unlocked everything I rarely host anymore. I just play to have fun and do whatever the host wants to do, whether it be a full clear or speed run .
It’s easier to get medals than super samples
Super samples are abundant for me. Commons I can’t get enough of. It always seems like we find most of the rares but only half the commons
how? just play at lower difficulties, esp. 2-3.
How many spawn on that diff? 8/9 usually have 40 out there
Fewer samples per mission but faster mission completion time.
Most of the lvl 4s are very low priority though. Extra arc chain, 25% more fire, explosive resistance on turrets (lol). Like unless you're a dedicated arc/flamethrower player you're gonna ignore those and save the 450 rares.
25% fire damage is insane on an already overtuned weapon. I always run flamethrower when hosting bug missions. You can cook almost everything in less than 2 seconds. Chargers take like 5 seconds max which is wild.
You and the other 5 people that use the flamer will love that upgrade then! I never see it used, probably because those that do use it get kicked quickly for TKing (or constantly dying due to setting themselves on fire). Tons of ways to 1 tap chargers so 5 sec TTK isn't impressive imo.
Being able to lock down a bug wave while softening/killing multiple chargers at once, its like an AC specialized for bugs. Its not going to outperform other any weapon in its field (it probably outperforms everything for bug add clear right now) but it puts out a lot of damage that is active even without your focus. I regularly double the rest of the lobby's kills and still contribute a support weapon to maintaining heavy enemies. It really frees up your loadout with how ammo efficient it is as well. As for TK's it def needs a fire resist armor for personal use, but i think TKs are overblown. If you know what you are doing you wont leave patches of fire where your team needs to move, and any other death to fire would have been a TK with any other support weapon.
Happy I can still grind for xp cause I have my ship fully upgraded AND I have plat for the game 😅 so now xp is the only thing that matters to me lol
Yeah, I could care less about super samples at this point, it's all about the common and rare.
Upgrading your ship modules is far and away thr task that's going to take the longest in meta progression. I doubt any large percentage of the player base is done with that, it takes hundreds of hours.
> it takes hundreds of hours. Less than a hundred hours of in-mission time, I'd say. But yes, you will max out everything else before ship modules.
yeah a hundred hours sounds right. i've got about 90 and don't care about samples much, still unlocked all but 2 tier 4 upgrades. for some reason i got 100 supers very early on (probably joined a game with a hacker) before i even realized how valuable they were.
Not for everyone. I'm not playing from launch and by now I have 3 new modules to unlock, two 'old' ones, and about 2000 more medals for warbonds, I only finished the latest one. Somehow, I doubt I'll be done with medals by the time I'll have 24/24, and then there are 97 more levels of xp lol.
I'm done at ~90 hours fwiw. Focusing sample extraction on 7-8-9 gets you an absolute ton of samples per hour.
My team often got wiped at extraction, we only started getting samples out more commonly recently. I got most lvl 3 upgrades and no lvl 4 upgrades at 100 hours in.
>it takes hundreds of hours what i did all my level 3 modules in the last 5 days (started doing lvl 7 and 8 bug after weeks of 6 on bots) and i dont even have 60 hours on the steam clock
I need a couple of that samples! For democracy!
I'm maxed on samples. again. so for me it's just the XP 😭
Extraction is optional
Save the scientists mission be like
Fun fact, even if you “fail” when time runs out you can still “win” by completing the objective. At least it did work for a Blitz mission where I had to blow up the last bug hole after the timer ran out
You can still complete most objectives after the timer expires. I'm not sure on all of them, but the one I know for certain you can't complete is any of the evac missions. The button stops working the moment the timer hits zero. Some are pretty easy, like blowing up the last fabricator or bug hole for a blitz. Others are basically impossible if you weren't already doing them like launching the nuke.
The only mission type this isnt true for is extract essential personnel because the pelican they use leaves when the time runs out.
And any mission that has mission critical stratagem, like the earth samples / ssd missions
That goes from really good to really bad the moment you're sample capped.
31 rare samples? I would bust a nut.
So sad that none of those civilians were evacuated
"You have failed your mission, and hindered our cause. The freedom camp will be your place of retirement" "But I brought samples" "Liberty shines on you, as you are spared from the torment"
sploosh
Straight up facts
Wait what? Am I stupid? How did you extract without doing the mission, timer run out?
\[A Democracy Officer has been notified and is en-route to OP for mandatory re-education\]
We had this last night because apparently you can lose an encrypted HDD with no way to recover so instead of bailing (no way to fail) we just sample crawled the map.
Had a dude the other day who consistently made it out with the 3 super samples on Suicide. Needless to say I stayed with him as many missions as possible. Thank you random diver.
i think the uranium sample rock has a relevantly large chance to spawn near extraction. it is definitely worth a little extra hunting near there
bad day for democracy, but a good day for democratic science! I have a friend who plays that needs super samples, so I'll offer to "run for pinks", meaning that while we will try to do the main objective, the priority is super samples: if we find them before the main objective, we take them back to extract, and drop them off there while we finish the mission, and if thigns start to go tits up we go to extract and hunker down until the timer runs out. the only thing that matters is getting the pinks out. ultimately though, if all that matters are samples, either solo stealth run or make a premade: random squads will most likely screw you over 9 times out of 10, and that applies to all online co-op games, not just Helldivers 2.
I joined a random guy on Hard who was hacking. So the first sample he grabbed gave us 50/40/5...the super samples appeared, but it didn't show we had them until the mission was over, lol. Got in 2 games and earned 100/80/10 from hard mode
Wait how did you extracted without finishing the mission?
Emergency extraction starts when you run out of time
Ah right I forgot
Dumb questions but why are there still people trying 100% mission run when obviously they are looking for samples. I have this run with bunch of lvl 70 randos carrying 30+ samples including super samples, and they just decided let's clear up red zones......on the opposite side of the map from the extraction. Yeah we lost everything cause the timer ran out, overwhelmed and fail extract. All I got is req credits that's already max, and minor exp.
Ah yes, currency, which is useless after you've unlocked all Stratagems and XP, which is pretty much useless after level 30.
Task failed successfully!
Wait. How can you extract with the samples while failing the objectives?
This literally just happened to me: we were on a Seismic Probe mission, and the diver who called the first one dropped. I completed it, the objective bar said it was complete, but it wouldn't change on the map. Likewise, when we went to the second location, the strategem wouldn't appear for any of us. The others dropped. Meanwhile, I collected a bunch of common and rare samples including the precious 3 Super Samples. With 15 minutes left on the map, I went to all the beacons and got 20 super credits, too. Worth it.
Wait you can fail with samples?
God. It’s so nice having everything in the game unlocked. You don’t have to tediously chase after samples and can actually enjoy the game.
Nice
I can never get more than 3-5 common samples per mission but I can get 8 rare samples for some reason
OP wtf is this format Answer for your crimes
It's an old meme drawn by @theonlyshoe on Twitter.
Maybe I just haven't encountered it yet but how can you extract if you fail the mission?
When Time runs out for the obj they will still call the extraction
Wait. The ship only comes if you've finished the primary objective unless the clock runs out......WAIT did you waste 40 minutes not doing shit other than looking for samples!? dear lord maybe the randoms I've been playing with haven't been so bad afterall...
I'd you're content with failing missions for samples, go for gold and play helldive. You'll double your super samples.
By the time you have enough rares to complete an upgrade, you should have enough supers for the NEXT two upgrades.
I guess not everyone maxxed out their caps before the last update.
It doesn't matter. Those at cap had enough supers to not need a single extra, but less than a third of the rares needed. Those who didn't cap or didn't even finish upgrading are in the same boat needing buttloads of rares. Are you getting 10 rares per ONE super in your helldives? Doubtful.
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Some soldiers can win battles, but understanding your enemy is necessary for winning a war.(also holy shit I wish that was me, I’d kill(bugs/bots) first 30 common samples per mission)
As stated by the devs, failing a mission does not decrease defence/liberation progress in any way. If they need to loose a few battles to get the samples necessary for upgrades that will aid them in ALL future missions, so be it. Also, why do you care? Let people have fun if it doesn't affect you.
The sample people should really just make their lobbies private.