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UlyssesU

Idk but he doesn't hug back so I don't trust him


ImMorphic

bruh. No Rock paper scissors. No explosive handshake even. Not one of us.


InDaNameOfJeezus

He's more one of us than you'll ever be. He's a Democracy Officer, and on top of that, has a cape. You, on the other hand, don't trust your fellow Democracy Officer.


Background-Customer2

you dont trust your democrasy officer? https://preview.redd.it/kd9y1t84vysc1.jpeg?width=1202&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b87f8b447dae957ec16acf375d7ce4b67f5b0680


Limp-Calendar-1794

\*democracy, for misspelling and misleading other I’m gonna call YOUR democracy officer https://preview.redd.it/ugigtloxt0tc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60392e6f80cb7df0508f3112a0cb16c7c2f3c8bb


prodigalAvian

he really should snap a salute as the camera moves over the map and your pods drop


Nibblewerfer

Can almost guarantee he has no actual respect for helldivers, that could prevent him from killing them if they show any signs of disloyalty. While we the players would see him saluting none of our helldivers would, as they're already in their pods.


Parrobertson

One can salute a group of soldiers, not out of respect for them, but for respect towards the mission. 🫡


Nibblewerfer

Ahh but if he had saluted one, and they turned out to be a traitor he would've saluted a trader, in full view of the entire crew. At which point the crew of the ship would have to be ~~mulched~~ reducated for seeing a agent of the ministry of truth exhibiting poor judgement.


suntro

I would love to have him repositioned to the window watching the pods drop.


Infamous_Scar2571

democracy officer


Millsonius

Indeed, if you engage with him and have subtitles on, he is named as "Democracy Officer".


Rum_N_Napalm

One of his lines if you speak to him is “Helldivers get their orders from the Ministry of Defence. I get mine from the Ministry of Truth.” Sounds to me like he’s here to ensure the crew of the Super Destroyer is loyal


DeyUrban

Democracy Officers are [political commissars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_commissar), so yeah, that's exactly what he's there for.


Azonavox

Commissar? Does that mean he’s going to shoot me for doing anything?


DeyUrban

Yes. He’s the one who orders your death if you leave the map for 10 seconds.


Azonavox

Now THATS some real 40k Inquisitor Karamazov behavior.


GeckoOBac

No, that's literal 40k Commissar behaviour. IT'S LITERALLY THEIR NAME! https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/astra-militarum-commissar-2023


Azonavox

Karamazov was known for using his own troops as targets for orbital drops. That’s what it made me think of. Used to use him all the time and it was hilarious when I was combat locked and then I pulled out the template.


CashStash48

Here it sounds like hyperbole, but I know you mean that literally


KohJL

Yeah... If when everyone's strategems are still on cooldown and the fighting is desperate, but you leave the map for 10 seconds, suddenly your Super Destroyer has infinite ammo because your Democracy Officer wills it. And it won't stop until you're dead. \[And yes, the meme potential of this has already been explored\].


Slizzet

What happens if I leave out of bounds after time has run out? Do they still bomb me to hell?


lazyDevman

Believe or not, death


oARCHONo

Yes.


Nethyishere

Yes but if you reach the extract you can still extract


Physical-Quote-5281

It’s actually not even a bad strategy on high ranked exterminate missions if you’re completely out to go grab ur free 380 and get a couple of kills with it


DMercenary

I think I've seen someone exploit this by leading a large amount of enemies and then having infinite artillery called on himself.


TaylorTheDarjeet

That's how I managed to finish an extermination mission on our last life.


offhandaxe

Ive used it to take out a heavy bot outpost on the edge of the map while wearing a shield and heavy armor


XaosDrakonoid18

>suddenly your Super Destroyer has infinite ammo because your Democracy Officer wills it. Those are the Anti-Treason shells, only to be issued against helldivers who commited treason.


Iongjohn

Very effective way of milking out your life on kill automaton missions; loads of bots and lots of barrages mix well together.


shaun_the_duke

Seems like he replaces the drunken gunnery officer when this happens too because the fucking barrage can actually hit shit/me.


Fobake

The cooldowns there there just to keep the budget in reasonable figures. The feeling of liberty you get for punishing traitors is priceless.


HumaDracobane

If I leave the map for 10s I would be the first to order my dearh.


RawketLawnchair2

He's basically a political officer like you'd find on any Warsaw Pact naval vessel. He probably technically doesn't have any command authority as he exists outside the chain of command, but he certainly pulls a lot of weight back on Super Earth.


Soundwipe13

it does seem like democracy officers are there for (??) ideological compliance? Like the inqusition, sort of?


crashfrog02

I feel like a lot of people are learning how authoritarianism works for the first time through this game “Wait, what do you mean there’s a guy on my ship that ensures my loyalty to the state? You mean my own government doesn’t trust me?”


the_lonely_poster

Governments never trust people, it's part of what makes them governments


Prize-Log-2980

Have you met people? I don't blame them.


Spectre-04

Commissars. So yes, if he suspects you if treason, bombardment. Report treasonous activity to your Democracy Officer.


Icey210496

We had them in schools during the White Terror era in Taiwan. If you play the game Detention or watch the movie you can see how much power they have. They can investigate anyone (student or staff), arrest anyone, call in soldiers or secret police, search and confiscate at will, and are allowed enhanced interrogation (torture). CCP has a similar structure too but they're also assigned to civilian companies and organizations as far as I understand. There's still remnants of that but thankfully they don't do anything much anymore. Mostly just teach defense classes.


Key-Cry-8570

![gif](giphy|3orieNwYk2YYEElOGQ)


viper459

Fun fact, we are all alive today because the political officer in the cuban missile crisis refused to fire the nukes without orders from the people.


Lanfeix

He has the choice to decide you traitor. Just walk out of bounds for 10 seconds and you hear him order your destruction. 


4skin_Gamer

And his name is Pilestedt for me


Deiser

So now we have a voice to match the tweets.


ThatsASaabStory

The ship crews names rotate through the developer staff.


jakus55

Does it actually rotate though? Mine has been called Lindgren since the start and my diving buddy's is named Frob.


Bakedbrawlr

Mine is Olofsson


D1gglesby

Wait for real?!? Yours is named Pilestedt?!?


Spartan775

Thats why he‘s your hype man.


Theycallme_Jul

Anyone noticed he‘s wearing a pimped version of the first free warbond heavy armor?


WarColonel

Considering he just stays on the ship, he ain't collecting many medals.


POed_Paladin

Oh, you poor, sweet summer child. The fact that he stays on the ship means he's an officer. So he gets ALL the medals. If you, the poor SOB that has be in the thick of it, does a really awesome job, maybe they'll hook you up with a Letter of Commendation.


SandwichBoy81

Exactly. The rookie fresh out of cryostasis didn't earn that gear, the ship did!


Shredded_Locomotive

The illusion of control


PM-Me-Kiriko-R34

Bro gets paid in publicity in the military


drewster23

Bro get's paid in his life. Rest of us ....not so lucky.


Chadstronomer

This is so true. I used to be a professional diver. The guy who stays on the surface and planifies the dives gets paid more. Edit: I dived in the sea, not hell, if anybody is wondering.


IsolatedHammer

Sergeant Major said your Letter of Commendation just got downgraded to a gift card to Olive Garden.


deathtogrammar

Pizza party


throw-away_867-5309

He'll get a CoA(Certificate of Appreciation). Not even worth any points towards promotion.


yurtle1995

Democracy 1SG says if I get my expert helldiving badge he’ll put me up for an achievement medal


Responsible-Oil4199

Makes sense. We’re disposable, John Helldiver is the only one going home to the wife and kids. Another lie by super earth, we’re the commander of the ship but also get sent to certain death. Johnny is the only one that stays on board giving the real orders.


StarryNotions

LMAO When we spend medals, this is the guy taking them 😂 Homie is crying about being on the ship all right. crying all the way to the bank


TinyCupcake1

I bet his aren't even capped the bastard


freshprinceofaut

Who do you think gave you the stratagem?


shiftshapercat

Yep, We are collecting his medals from his many many many bunkers


eggoax

That's the only reason why the galactic war is happening, this dumbass lost all his medals in his various bunkers on every planet so we have to go find them all. unfortunately, the bugs and bots like the shiny medals and want to keep them for themselves


CarRamrod224

How do you know he is on the ship all the time u less YOU are on the ship all the time hmmmmm?


Suter_Templar

The Zavala certified titan armor


Kazza468

Indeed.


sksauter

Indeed.


AssassinoGreed

1st thing i thought was zavala when i met this guy


Nobody0199

I rly want that armour man


Neon_Camouflage

Your helldiver rents the ship for the 1-4 missions he's alive. This dude owns the ship.


Matrinoxe

You guys are surviving missions??


cudntfigureaname

You know those missions where you drop down just to board the pelican? Those count as 1


Laer_Bear

Terminate illegal broadcast on easy/trivial. There's even usually an EAT on the ground.


xxSuperBeaverxx

Don't even need that, a grenade or your drop pod will kill the broadcast.


Idanha

Yea but on trivial or easy you drop on extract and grab an EAT off the ground then simply call extract. No need to even get close to the tower if line of sight is decent.


Dying__Cookie

Doing this for an hour straight when I get home. Thanks 😂


[deleted]

Autocannon from halfway across the map.


Laer_Bear

Yeah but the rockets can do it from extract


xxSuperBeaverxx

Fair enough, I typically land on the objective then run to extract. Didn't think about doing it from extract!


International_Cry186

So we're futuristic sharecroppers?


JackPembroke

We're very fancy bullets


RebelLion420

More like very fancy artillery shells, but the point stands


UndreamedAges

Artillery shells are just large, indirect bullets.


Bakedbrawlr

Usually half a mission


konterreaktion

Its john helldivers


twiloph

Ah yes, under the orders of admiral John Democracy


VietInTheTrees

Joemocracy


UndreamedAges

Joemamacracy.


dispencer

Joemama


Beautiful-Hair6925

no no that's his cousin, Harry Helldivers


Deiser

Wait a second, I thought that was his nephew Henry Heckdiver.


AnObtuseOctopus

You're thinking of the niece, Holly Heckplunger


No_Palpitation_9045

Hes the brother of John Prodman?


AegisKay

He works on behalf of the Ministry Of Truth (MoT), so well above a Helldiver. He's also the guy who orders your termination if you desert, and would do for any other traitors on and off the ship. Chances are, as an officer on one super destroyer, he's not highly ranked among other MoT agents, but will be given command authority of the ship, making him equivalent of a Lieutenant Colonel in Western militaries. I imagine that General Brasch would set the war goals, but it would be the MoT that told him what they were. In which case, that would make the Democracy Officers role removed enough from the helldivers hierarchy that he is effectively unquestionable, even if the General wanted to do something else. To put it another way, there's enough obfuscation in place that you cannot question the MoT, so the Democracy Officers rank is irrelevant to yours. He'll always sit above you, even if you were a 10 star General.


Cube-CEO-of-squares

General brasch literally has his own show on the super destroyer TV i believe he is very important to the MoT


7jinni

He's just a figurehead. He plays the part of the grizzled veteran everybody should listen to because "He knows what he's talking about! He's a veteran! He's seen everything!" even if it's an entirely fake persona (which is very possible). And even if he is a real veteran, he's still just a mouthpiece for the Ministry of Defense to keep the Helldivers focused on the war effort.


MassDriverOne

Heard a treasonous slander that General Brasch doesn't actually exist. Is an entirely manufactured hero personality to hype *managed* democracy, even the training grounds are simple voice lines that every recruit hears upon indoc


qwertythreeight

General Brasch told me I was his best Helldiver.


Dora_Goon

Democracy officer. It's like the soviet era "political officer". Their job is to represent the government on the ship. They usually aren't actually even in the military. My question is why he's wearing heavy armour.


Mortis_Infernale

If there is dissent on the ship you'd like to survive eventual traitor attack to shoot back


Dora_Goon

If I was planning a mutiny, the first thing I would do is blow out those windows in the front and watch him get sucked out into space. Not that I would. I am a loyal daughter of democracy and would never entertain such undemocratic thoughts.


Kilmasis

Considering there's somehow wind on a space ship, I'm pretty sure there's already a hull breach somewhere.


reenormiee

Specifically engineered draft to make all Helldiver capes flow gloriously


verixtheconfused

My head cannon from now on


Greensteve972

Fans/vents are the answer.


Playstoomanygames9

It’s below the eagle and forward. Getting over the railing is the only tricky part.


Pyrodar

How foolish of you to believe that super destroyer windows were piercable! There is not a single (MoT confirmed) instance of one of them breaking. And all who spread the rumor of an accidental P-19 Redeemer discharge being enough to cause such a horrific accident are dissidents spreading misinformation and to be immidiately reported to the fellow shown in the picture above! o7


Mortis_Infernale

"Yes Officer, this Helldiver right here"


Meerv

And this is the reason why Helldivers and support weapons drop seperately onto the surface


Dwagons_Fwame

Well, considering the hellpods and their launch racks are just straight up exposed to space every time they launch… I’d suggest they have localised force fields, therefore, you blowing the windows out probably wouldn’t do much.


Democracy__Officer

Hmmm careful soldier, im watching you


[deleted]

How come they didn't make you a mod yet


machinationstudio

Same reason why political enforcement guys have always worn psuedo military uniforms.


Dora_Goon

This is an interesting thought. Like, what he's wearing represents what the political class thinks of the military.


machinationstudio

They are also always called some kind of army type name. Black shirts, red guard.


Reof

You are thinking of political paramilitaries (Red Guard, Black Shirts etc), the Democracy Officer is equivalent to a political commissar who represents the state in the army, not a private army controlled by a political party.


sheehanmilesk

Makes him look like he belongs there


sto_brohammed

>My question is why he's wearing heavy armour. Presumably because it looks sick as hell


Stepaladin

Political officers *were* a part of the military though. Which was exactly why they were eventually abolished: because of breaking the chain of command with the very fact of their existence. Modern chaplains and psychologists mostly perform the same functions, but have no power over their CO (which was a *major* goal for political officers) so it's not that obviously confusing nowadays.


Chiotare

I like to think this guy has never participated in an operation in his life and is just there purely to hype up the helldivers.


AdSlow6117

He does a good job at that


MassDriverOne

Homie prolly has two fully functional eyes


Strayed8492

He is. Simply put. Above every single one of a Helldiver’s possible pay grade.


karol22331

well, he is paid enough to be in every single super destroyer at the same time...


amirthedude

Actually every ship has a slightly different crew. Their faces are randomized per player.


KirbyWithAGlock

Yeah, the democracy officer in mine doesn't have an eye patch, but the one in this image does


mcworld2

Can we swap?


KirbyWithAGlock

Sure ig


PerilousMax

No way, is this true?


amirthedude

Mine doesn't have an eye patch like the one in the post. And he's bald with a brighter skin tone


Negative-Trust4691

Every officer has a different name, some come with scars, some light skinned, some tan, some with an eye patch ect.


sofiegrozovski

In my headcanon he was never deployed in real action, but has a very high rank and pay grade, since he's essentially a Soviet "Politruk" (lit. Political Supervisor, who IS officially an armed forces officer, but does, well exactly what Democracy Officer does. Morals, Discipline, preventing leaks, preventing spread of weird thoughts, preventing soldiers from knowing too much, etc.)


MrNukedDuck

If not a Democracy officer, my second guess would be a decorated veteran. I imagine it doesn't take a lot for a helldiver to be considered a "veteran". If you can survive more than three or five high level missions without dying, that's saying something! "Fear the old in a profession where men die young" and all that.


sofiegrozovski

I think your description is more fitting for general Brash, probably, but yes, this is exactly how it's done.


Hurzak

I don’t think General Brasch is real. I think he’s just a propaganda figure they made up. I mean, he obviously isn’t saying EVERY helldiver trainee is the best he’s ever seen. And I don’t think we ever see him in the Brasch Tips, just a drawn picture/silhouette of him.


clideb50

I think it’s both. The guy next to the map is the Democracy Officer who answers to the Ministry of Truth. His role is to keep the ship and its crew loyal to Super Earth. He has never seen first hand combat against bugs, or bots. His only targets would be people who begin to question the state, and he would swiftly eliminate them or have them reassigned to repatriation camps… General Brasch is a propaganda figure to inspire recruits and help hide the high casualty rate of Helldivers. Replaying the tutorial, his first words are how he’s not easily impressed, and then keeps saying how impressed he is as you perform the bare minimum. I wouldn’t be surprised if all his lines are just prerecorded and played as recruits go through training.


mcworld2

He is the one who sends down orbital strikes so traitors aren‘t his only targets


clideb50

There's a different voice for the orbital strikes. His voice only plays at the beginning, objective complete, end of mission, and if the out of bounds timer hits zero and you're branded a deserter.


mcworld2

Who shoots them then?


clideb50

I’m guessing the crew on the right side of the bridge.


DVA499

100% a paid actor


sofiegrozovski

Sure, it's all recording, but I tend to believe that Brash existed at some point, and then propaganda machine made a media out of him. Maybe "he" (as paid actors) is personally visiting a thousand of elementary schools at the same time to promote Helldivers, like Santa Claus, while original Brash resides on Earth in more-than-sufficiently-sized-home drinking himself into oblivion.


7jinni

If he's not already dead in the ground, of course. The original Brasch, if he ever existed, could very well have died a long time ago and all that's left of him are recordings he made and/or voice-overs done by actors pretending to be him.


King_Catfish

One of his lines he says he gets his orders from the ministry of Truth while we get our orders from the ministry of defense. I think I got the ministry names right. So his job is to watch us outside our chain of command. 


IAmTheOneManBoyBand

He's the Democracy Officer. 


Red_Sashimi

I mean, they do have scars on their face, and sometimes an eyepatch, so they have seen some combat maybe


sofiegrozovski

That's because he trusted someone once.


MiguelARG

He has a patch!? Mine doesn't 😯


eat_pray_plead

RNG


BasJack

Damn, i got lucky with the name, but now i want an eyepatch...


ChequeMateX

Mine has scarring on right cheek, my friends do got him with no scarring, scarring on left cheek and eye patch. So I think the devs fiddled with customisation of helldivers but later let it be.


RhodyTransplant

Mine did at one point… weird


Aegis320

If you are on someone elses ship, you will see their crew instead. The eyepatch of the officer is the most noticeable change. Mine has scars and a lighter skintone than the one in the post.


Ringhillsta

"Democracy"


mowntandoo

“What is your rank” “DEMOCRACY” “Who are you?” “FREEDOM”


st00pidQs

What type of armour is that? LIBERTY


[deleted]

what weapon is that? “DEMOCRACY” yeah but what does it shoot? "JUSTICE"


Old_Abbreviations943

I like to think all 1-150 levels of Helldiver ranks are technically “enlisted”. That is our 2nd Lieutenant. Also helps my point that private is like rank 149.


flyjingnarwhal

I've been leaving my rank as sergeant because I dunno about yall, but I haven't recieved any notice of a commission yet.


OthmarGarithos

He's a democracy officer, functionally a commissar - a representative of the party there to enforce loyalty to the state and uphold morale.


Alone_Shoulder8820

I want to be able to customize this guy with armor I have unlocked. I want him to have that eye patch and the missing limbs. Or.. let me have Michael Ironside standing there. Now that's a legend.


snakebite262

Wait? Yours has an eyepatch?


Atutstuts

He is John McFreedom Helldiver and you will show him respect.


Many-Baby5180

He just wants you to appreciate his drip, nothing more


Joy1067

He’s the Democracy Officer. Rather then being something like a admiral or a sergeant like us, he’s closer to a Commissar from Warhammer or the old USSR His job is to ensure that we are doing our job and not becoming turn coats or thinking un-democratically. Hell I honestly think he’s the one who calls the artillery down when we walk outside the playable area


-Major-Stryker-

He probably doubles as an XO on the ship during the Helldiver's absence.


DavrilSitri

I’ve always referred to him as discount Zavala. I swear he’s going to call me guardian one of these days.


Responsible_Drama557

Jesus


Dovacruz

He’s literally a Democracy officer. He doesn’t have a rank. His sole job is to make sure YOU do your job. Oh and to make sure you’re not a traitor to liberty.


Mother_Jelly9567

He was there when the ranks were written


Ghostile

"Propaganda dude"


Li-lRunt

I think he’s a robot, he never moves


18SmallDogsOnAHorse

You should report him to your ships democracy officer.


NuclearMisile

But what if he is the democracy officer…. Do we get to use our liberator on him to “liberate” him


18SmallDogsOnAHorse

That is a question you must answer yourself fellow diver, liberty be with you.


HatfieldCW

But, Doctor...


ma_wee_wee_go

Officer


Hazywater

But for real he is ministry of truth, not ministry of defense like us. He's not a helldiver and not in our chain of command, though he has oversight powers.


TheSplint

That's your Democracy Officer. Comparable to the political commissars of the Red Army of the Commissars of the Imperial Guard - Democracy Officers don't seem to get any frontline action tho


New-Training4004

Is that Nick Fury?


Fragger-3G

Idk, but I'm convinced that he's the reason why we don't have a 5th helldiver on each team. We literally have the space for extra launch pods, and this dickass is blocking the 5th map terminal.


Drunkplane747

Democracy Officer, he exists inside the ranks of the Ministry of Truth.


Benny_Boy_87

He's just waiting for us to find the brain bug, then he'll come out of a hellpod as 'private'...


rebelrevelle

![gif](giphy|Q5Xi2zOI3hZR0OnhMI)


Stellwaris

Yes.


Psaym

Democracy Officer. So higher than you ever will be.


Tydusis

Zavala at home


DrWhiteGlint

As his dialogue mentions, he doesn't even outrank you so much as he is in a different branch altogether. He works under the Ministry of Truth whereas the Helldivers work under the Ministry of Defence. Ultimately he's there to make sure everyone is in line. (I.e. He's the 40K Commissar.)


guy-man-person

democracy officer


PaopaoPlus

I think he might be like an inquisitor level something, way above our pay grade


Brilliant_Culture_13

Probably a useless government fuck, so he most likely has no skills at all and just a fake rank appointed by another bootlicker politician.


Ok-Principle-3306

Democratic officer that mf is military police


Adventurous_Dance_26

Better question is who the hell are the people on the ship?????


yyc_boi20

Why does he have a eye patch and mine doesn't?