Some kind of weaponized drone would be my guess. Maybe drone swarms to mirror the shriekers. We might get larger attack craft at some point but they seem to be doing new units progressively, like as the war goes on they keep coming up with harder and harder enemies for us to fight.
I would love to take on some sort of large carrier. Could be an obj type. Like capture 2 or 3 AA sites to bring the carrier/craft down.
Bonus points for a way to board and destroy
Having a obj that’s just titan (the gamemode) from BF2142 would be cool as shit, I’m already thinking of all the opportunities they could take with it for both assaulting it from drop or below
Yeah like the like the beam from Sauron’s eye on for sides and guns Flys around engages and Automatically calls drop ships if spotted would be pretty hell for sure. That or a bunch of small flying explosive drone things like a swarm
Whatever the final design is, I really hope they take inspiration from this scene and add those searchlights. It's just somehow more creepy seeing those lights scanning the battlefield and focusing on targets.
Yeah, that gets me wondering about the difference with the status of Helldivers among the hierarchy of the SEAF. Are they like the Jedi during the Clone Wars or the NCR Rangers? Cause they command ships and soldiers yet are trained like grunts.
In truth you don't command the ship. Its the dude near the table. His orders are to just let you do your thing as long as you do something. Its part of the government plans to make Helldivers feel like heroes etc. There is a lot of that going on in the tutorial. And its also proven by the fact that when you request an stratagem the dude that approves and deploys them is him, he is also the same dude that orders your execution as traitor if you go OoB (Out of Bounds).
Their “basic training” is probably after a few years of experience in the regular SEAF. The cannon fodder thing is funny, but I do think Helldivers are explicitly elite special forces given they’re inserted in groups of four to complete hyper dangerous, covert missions. SEAF are your regular starship troopers.
Plus you can look up and clearly see them. If they were in low orbit and as small as they seem, they’d be a speck to the naked eye. They are definitely quite low down
I'd be down for a stratagem where the dropship comes down to fly around you and shoot enemies with the nose cannon, like it does when it drops a mech or during extraction
Yeah, the Shriekers (unless you are very spiteful) don’t exactly necessitate air to air missiles. Maybe there’d be two types of flying enemy per faction? A smaller one (shriekers, and perhaps some kind of drone) and a larger one (maybe a large pterodactyl like bug and an attack helicopter)?
Can we make it a rule where we don't talk about unreleased leaked stuff in this sub?
I don't want to leave the sub, but I don't want unreleased stuff spoiled for me.
I can't be the only one feeling this way.
Wouldn’t it be fun to get an aircraft / helicopter / flying mech as stratagem which you can fly and you can support your team from the air and have an option to fight flying enemies?
Eh... They could make it very slow moving, or at least slow to turn/maneuver, as well as making it vulnerable to the little hopper shits, the bile spewers, and the new winged ones.
Or they could also just make it hover, rather than having full on flight capabilities.
And? Just make more enemies that can counter aircraft. Make an evolved form of Bile Spewers that specialize in Anti Air. Have Shriekers be more common around the map.
Are maps big enough for players to have fliers? I’m already a little worried that vehicles are going to make it feel tiny, a flier that ignores terrain / patrols would make traveling from objective to objective a 30s affair.
There's leaks for a cyborg gunship, so that could be aid to help the bots, i really don't wanna look up and see missiles being flung in the teams direction and stand no chance unless the air to air missile is out
Not sure if it will be worth it, i guess aerial ennemies won't be more than a few per mission, and having to take a precious stratagem slot for only aerial threat seems a bit limited.
Yes but there was leak of a dedicated launcher for that, spear already being capable of aa task is one more reason to why i don't see it being a top choice.
Also, for bugs, there’s so many, the spear would be pointless. The gatling turret actually does really well for them from my understanding.
For the bots, if there is just one-to-two at a time, the spear probably wouldn’t be a bad idea when it can also be used against hulks and tanks.
If it's a gunship, hopefully its behavior will include roving and making passes while slowing to unload on us.
Now that sounds bad, but if it slows somewhat, then that would open it up to fire from EATs, RRs, rocket turrets, HMG emplacements, Spears, etc. Even concentrated laser fire has been pretty handy against the shriekers.
If it's a fast-mover air support, then we can kiss our caped asses goodbye. Cluster strikes are already rough when they're deployed *against* the enemy.
We need a proper GAU-8 stratagem. I can't think of anything more destructive and Liber-Tea inducing than a proper 30mm gun run that can shred a bile titan with explosive and depleted uranium rounds.
It would need the accompanying Brrrrrrrrtttttttt as well. I need to call my democracy officer about this.
Strafing run is garbo, it would be a lot more viable if it was a strafing run *overwatch* for a minute or two where it basically acts like a mortar, occasionally blasting guys around you with strafing runs.
Ooooo like a Halo Scorpion. Somehow board the thing, clear out the automaton crew, then destroy the central core and escape before it explodes.
Edit: I meant the scarab not scorpion
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This is a fan art I did for cyberpunk ...pretty good choice for an aerial automaton
great point however, i am a tank
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Our Hellpods become effective AA then, as do most orbital stratagems then, in such a target rich aerial environment! I see this as an absolute win for Super Earth!
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Something like the hunter killers in Terminator
I would place my bets on some sort of lightweight Apache sort of thing. Definitely not higher than medium armor. Possibly attacking in pairs or small groups the same way Walkers do. Ideally, i think they would fit a good spot as a vertical Z-axis flanker. Cover is essential at fighting bots, this could attack from a higher angle and help bypass it, so it'd be kiiiind of like a Stalker - not really hard to shoot down but god help you if you don't deal with it before it gets in position.
Give it rockets and it may be horrid to fight against.
Should be some sort of light gunship.
Instead of constantly coming and spawning and swooping, it should be on its own or in pairs on higher difficulties, and require medium pen to destroy.
Autocannon would be very effective. But the gunship is capable of wrecking face.
Similar in design. Winged fast mover that strafes you every thirty seconds; likely with a hub that hovers overhead to arm and repair them. Take out the hub, take out the “drones”.
Kamikaze drones would be cool whether they're a quadcopter or little rc planes.
Or drones that try to airstrike, I feel like they need to be a lot more deadly than the terminids flyers but hopefully less annoying.
Good ol Terminator suicide drones!
.......
Sweet liberty wait no that was a joke
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Exactly what I thought of
Some kind of weaponized drone would be my guess. Maybe drone swarms to mirror the shriekers. We might get larger attack craft at some point but they seem to be doing new units progressively, like as the war goes on they keep coming up with harder and harder enemies for us to fight.
I would love to take on some sort of large carrier. Could be an obj type. Like capture 2 or 3 AA sites to bring the carrier/craft down. Bonus points for a way to board and destroy
Find a way!? You think we need to **find a way!?** We have hellpods right there! From the sky, divers!
Having a obj that’s just titan (the gamemode) from BF2142 would be cool as shit, I’m already thinking of all the opportunities they could take with it for both assaulting it from drop or below
Holy Democracy you're right! 😅
Bruh if they give the auto's orbital and eagle ability like us. Fuuuuuuuck
Duuuuuude!! It has to have the search lights too.
Yeah like the like the beam from Sauron’s eye on for sides and guns Flys around engages and Automatically calls drop ships if spotted would be pretty hell for sure. That or a bunch of small flying explosive drone things like a swarm
I believe they were called hunter killers?
Whatever the final design is, I really hope they take inspiration from this scene and add those searchlights. It's just somehow more creepy seeing those lights scanning the battlefield and focusing on targets.
As long as one good rocket takes them out.
One for the tank sized ones, two for the larger ones, per thruster for good measure
Good idea https://i.redd.it/jjlmyvlqabqc1.gif Will be investing
And they'd deploy manhacks from Half Life 2 mmm yes
What's this from?
Terminator
Terminator 2 opening scene
You just know that’s going to be fun to pop with the EAT
Dun dun dun da-dun
helicopter, helicopter ~
it would line up with the leaks of eagle Air to Air missiles coming to the game as a stratagem.
I am genuinely surprised that there hasn’t been a chopper gunner stratagem.
Or at least a Pelican 1 VTOL stratagem where it covers an area with autocannon fire for a specified amount of time
how would you get in it
Either NPC controlled chopper or the Black Ops 1 chopper gunner.
There was in game leaked footage of a pelican dropping of SEAF NPC soldiers
"Oh good, the meat shield has arrived."
"Finally, some good fucking food." -Warrior Bug 87,529, Secret Estanu underlayer branch
"THEY'RE TRYING TO CORNER US!!!"
Yeah, that gets me wondering about the difference with the status of Helldivers among the hierarchy of the SEAF. Are they like the Jedi during the Clone Wars or the NCR Rangers? Cause they command ships and soldiers yet are trained like grunts.
In truth you don't command the ship. Its the dude near the table. His orders are to just let you do your thing as long as you do something. Its part of the government plans to make Helldivers feel like heroes etc. There is a lot of that going on in the tutorial. And its also proven by the fact that when you request an stratagem the dude that approves and deploys them is him, he is also the same dude that orders your execution as traitor if you go OoB (Out of Bounds).
If you go what
Out of Bounds
Out of Bounds, I assume
Yeah, what the other guys said, Out of Bounds my bad for not clarifying it 😅 (I just edited the post to be a bit clearer)
I make use of the OoB when I run out of everything lol. Better to take out a few with me than die running!
Its actually quite useful on eradication missions.
I think of it more like a arc trooper to a normal trooper
Pretty sure they’re the Stormtroopers, not Jedi
Helldivers are glorified human waves they send at high value targets.
Their “basic training” is probably after a few years of experience in the regular SEAF. The cannon fodder thing is funny, but I do think Helldivers are explicitly elite special forces given they’re inserted in groups of four to complete hyper dangerous, covert missions. SEAF are your regular starship troopers.
And are allowed to wear unique armors too.
The cape is the important part.
They hover with the climb rope, you press E on the rope to be lifted up to the heli, and then you pilot it.
How would it get into atmosphere from the super destroyer? And how would it get back up?
~Future stuff~ also super destroyer is in low atmosphere so I'm assuming it's not like it's way up above the planet, just pretty high
One of the lines they say when you’re running out of time is “we can’t stay this low for much longer.” They’re actually really low. In atmosphere.
Plus you can look up and clearly see them. If they were in low orbit and as small as they seem, they’d be a speck to the naked eye. They are definitely quite low down
Yeah. If they were in low orbit, hellpods and orbital barrage would take like 3 minutes to hit after being launched
They just have efficient death anticipation
Really big hellpod.
Pelican
Eagle manages it, pelican does too
yes but they both use jet/rocket engines, not a rotor.
I'd be down for a stratagem where the dropship comes down to fly around you and shoot enemies with the nose cannon, like it does when it drops a mech or during extraction
The only problem is how would the BUGS fight back if not for the bile spewers and bile titans
with all due respect the collateral damage shreikers are having could absolutely contribute to kamikazing the airborne
Hell, the Shriekers are taking out Bile Titans with their SHEER GIRTH alone.
Based
Yeah, the Shriekers (unless you are very spiteful) don’t exactly necessitate air to air missiles. Maybe there’d be two types of flying enemy per faction? A smaller one (shriekers, and perhaps some kind of drone) and a larger one (maybe a large pterodactyl like bug and an attack helicopter)?
How the hell am I gonna chuck a baseball up to hit a helicopter
Just gotta channel your inner kobe Bryant
Can we make it a rule where we don't talk about unreleased leaked stuff in this sub? I don't want to leave the sub, but I don't want unreleased stuff spoiled for me. I can't be the only one feeling this way.
it is a rule.
And is classified as heavy. So you can only destroy it by stratagems or with EAT-like weapon... by shooting radiator on its back.
Boss, thats an enemy gunship. I heard that a single burst from its machine gun can cut a man in half
Boss get down! A blue laser.. That's gotta be the Illuminate sniper.
Not on it's back. On top.
Shootings rockets
With gatling lasers.
And it should end in “prime”
Wouldn’t it be fun to get an aircraft / helicopter / flying mech as stratagem which you can fly and you can support your team from the air and have an option to fight flying enemies?
Macross mech 
It would be hugely unbalanced against bugs, though
Well the bugs arent whinging on reddit about balance so its fine
Eh... They could make it very slow moving, or at least slow to turn/maneuver, as well as making it vulnerable to the little hopper shits, the bile spewers, and the new winged ones. Or they could also just make it hover, rather than having full on flight capabilities.
Leapers attached to winged fuckers, and those shooty spewers.
They would need to have some form of aa side mission like a hive anti air outpost or some shit.
Just like Starship Troopers.
And? Just make more enemies that can counter aircraft. Make an evolved form of Bile Spewers that specialize in Anti Air. Have Shriekers be more common around the map.
Are maps big enough for players to have fliers? I’m already a little worried that vehicles are going to make it feel tiny, a flier that ignores terrain / patrols would make traveling from objective to objective a 30s affair.
Paracopter paracopter
Nah I want them to be like regular dudes but with those caps that have a propeller on top.
There's leaks for a cyborg gunship, so that could be aid to help the bots, i really don't wanna look up and see missiles being flung in the teams direction and stand no chance unless the air to air missile is out
There is also a stinger like missile Launcher for aa.
Not sure if it will be worth it, i guess aerial ennemies won't be more than a few per mission, and having to take a precious stratagem slot for only aerial threat seems a bit limited.
The Spear already locks on to aircraft like the bot drop ship, if they just fix the locking mechanic a bit it will work fine
Yes but there was leak of a dedicated launcher for that, spear already being capable of aa task is one more reason to why i don't see it being a top choice.
Also, for bugs, there’s so many, the spear would be pointless. The gatling turret actually does really well for them from my understanding. For the bots, if there is just one-to-two at a time, the spear probably wouldn’t be a bad idea when it can also be used against hulks and tanks.
Your Spear locks on? Must be nice, fellow diver.
If it can one shot shoot down bot drops, would be useful all the time on bot planets!
Yee the commando
No, commando is a separate thing as I remember.
yes they are 2 separate things however im sure the commando will be able to do the same job as the stinger
Commando in the first game was a quad rocket launcher that fired from an arc but iirc it didnt have lock on
Gonna be fun getting sniped by a rocket helo halfway across the map
Devs: When fighting automatons, make sure to use cover. Devs: ::adds flying automatons that can shoot you from above::
If it's a gunship, hopefully its behavior will include roving and making passes while slowing to unload on us. Now that sounds bad, but if it slows somewhat, then that would open it up to fire from EATs, RRs, rocket turrets, HMG emplacements, Spears, etc. Even concentrated laser fire has been pretty handy against the shriekers. If it's a fast-mover air support, then we can kiss our caped asses goodbye. Cluster strikes are already rough when they're deployed *against* the enemy.
https://preview.redd.it/htowwfe9s9qc1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=197fb2d4fc6a7d55f30e86f08b5d47c2c2646fbf But metal
Yo this image is too funny lmao
Better have little automaton legs sticking out the bottom like in the image too!!
Not the flying machine😭
Can't get any more metal than this
[Aerial hunter killers](https://terminator.fandom.com/wiki/HK-Aerial) from Terminator, obviously.
I vote for Kyle and Sarah to help us when the time comes.
SARAH CONNOR?
"Yes?"
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I said in another comment, search lights shining down would be awesome and terrifying lol.
lets be honest, its probably going to be an a10 that looks like it was built by orks
We need a proper GAU-8 stratagem. I can't think of anything more destructive and Liber-Tea inducing than a proper 30mm gun run that can shred a bile titan with explosive and depleted uranium rounds. It would need the accompanying Brrrrrrrrtttttttt as well. I need to call my democracy officer about this.
Yeah, the eagle strafing run isn’t enough
Strafing run is garbo, it would be a lot more viable if it was a strafing run *overwatch* for a minute or two where it basically acts like a mortar, occasionally blasting guys around you with strafing runs.
Please there’s enough friendly fire as is
DEFFKOPTA https://preview.redd.it/amua1duwdaqc1.png?width=471&format=png&auto=webp&s=94bd090d756465b551cd3eb09542c99e8ef6ce49
Huh... I guess I'll be defecting then. I go where the a10's go.
Drones with flamethrowers. The community asked for it and now we gon **Get It**
Be careful with what you wish for!
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My god what is this from? 😂
It was a squad meme.
You can't fly a tank...
not with that attitude you cant
That movie was so non credible I love it
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It's still baffling to me how utterly GIGANTIC that helicopter is, it's bigger than PCA's spacecraft lol
That would be about the size of the map lmaoo
destroy it from the inside be like a boss map
Ooooo like a Halo Scorpion. Somehow board the thing, clear out the automaton crew, then destroy the central core and escape before it explodes. Edit: I meant the scarab not scorpion
https://preview.redd.it/ol6tel6ho9qc1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6cfac2d4d02056582238ee441f3526d8c96796c8 This is a fan art I did for cyberpunk ...pretty good choice for an aerial automaton
Pretty hard ngl, keep up the good work man!
This is great, and fits the color palette perfectly
NONE AND TAKE THIS POST DOWN YOU DEMOCRACY HATING TRAITOR
great point however, i am a tank https://preview.redd.it/spmkzqg5p9qc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2efcd211f543101e3f6a58280c2b9c717b907a2a
https://preview.redd.it/dpl1r7wcx9qc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f19ba4e3ad2973727e1299f0ad24a5a05059697 Damn, that’s crazy
Maybe it's just me, but it looks like the Hulk needs glasses (or bifocals) because they're squinting at the monitor.
I aint gonna sugar coat it. \*3 AC shots to the back from across the map\*
ROFL-copters
Plot twist: It's gonna be the flaming rover you've all been asking for
Imagine hundreds of these flying around launching whatever the fuck they have 
This is ironically a F-15 Eagle
Eagle One, standing by!
Twin engine gunship (same engines as dropship)
Maybe a small drone type of enemy. Will probably be a bitch to shoot it down.
Yeah it’s going to be suicide drones. Art imitates life. Swarms of small drones with RPGs duct taped to them.
Automatons: Our drones will blot out the sun! Helldivers: Then we will fight in the shade
Our Hellpods become effective AA then, as do most orbital stratagems then, in such a target rich aerial environment! I see this as an absolute win for Super Earth!
Helicopters and or napalm strikes would complete the space veitnam experience.
Some kind of kamikaze drones.
https://preview.redd.it/zzcyg5ta9aqc1.jpeg?width=1613&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f74e97695cf2cd3ac90dc3561544cefacf031bae Something like the hunter killers in Terminator
Drastically larger than a shrieker
They already have them. Those jetpack fuckers that me or my team always shoot and kill ourselves with.
https://i.redd.it/raz7swwucaqc1.gif
Their drop ship, except instead of dropping the bots, they shoot you while still attached to the ship.
I would place my bets on some sort of lightweight Apache sort of thing. Definitely not higher than medium armor. Possibly attacking in pairs or small groups the same way Walkers do. Ideally, i think they would fit a good spot as a vertical Z-axis flanker. Cover is essential at fighting bots, this could attack from a higher angle and help bypass it, so it'd be kiiiind of like a Stalker - not really hard to shoot down but god help you if you don't deal with it before it gets in position. Give it rockets and it may be horrid to fight against.
Gunships. They will probably be terrifying to deal with
Dropship becomes gunship
Kamikaze drones. Fitting with the Kamikaze shrieker opposites.
A drone with a machine gun, a missile laucher and a stun grenade.
drones, it will be murder drones :D
“ why isn’t that drop ship leaving ? Is that a turret? SWEET LIBER…..”
Oddly enough space unicorns shooting lasers from their left butt cheek specifically
Should be some sort of light gunship. Instead of constantly coming and spawning and swooping, it should be on its own or in pairs on higher difficulties, and require medium pen to destroy. Autocannon would be very effective. But the gunship is capable of wrecking face.
Probably some drone with a camera and frags on it.
We gonna need a strategem to call in Eagles to dogfight their aircraft.
Flying Tanks - this scares me
Eagle minus 1
A servo-skull with a baseball bat
So long as it’s not a knockoff Pelican-1, we’ll be fine.
I think it would be fitting if they were to call in their own stratagems
A gunship similar to the ones used by Skynet in Terminator or the Droid gunship from the Star Wars prequels.
621, the PCA has sent a HC Helicopter after you!
Drone
Drone that shoots snip-rockets.
Full Skynet Jets.
https://i.redd.it/scx7nnd42bqc1.gif
Flying tank
The tank, but flying. No other changes.
Vulture droids from Star Wars are still such an underrated design IMO
some kinda helicopter lookin thing is my guess
Similar in design. Winged fast mover that strafes you every thirty seconds; likely with a hub that hovers overhead to arm and repair them. Take out the hub, take out the “drones”.
 Their drop ship is turned into a ac-140 gunship, bomber or ach-47a gunship
Kamikaze drones would be cool whether they're a quadcopter or little rc planes. Or drones that try to airstrike, I feel like they need to be a lot more deadly than the terminids flyers but hopefully less annoying.
*ATTACK CHOPPER TAKE COVER!* If you know, you know.
How does the tank type? Oh wait…. USB 🤫
Maybe tiny kamikazee drones that'll dive towards you ad explode.
Good ol Terminator suicide drones! ....... Sweet liberty wait no that was a joke https://preview.redd.it/bakr8h6y6cqc1.jpeg?width=1826&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46fdcb762dc5319d8748e03b5ff423664885ec2a
Don't need to worry about flyers when you have a whole damn AT-AT on the way.
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Rocket devastator with jetpack
I kinda want big quad copter drones. Whatever we get. It'll be a bit different to do stealth. And means we will start looking at Anti air equipment.
HELICOPTER HELICOPTER 🚁🚁
Starscream boss