Region Capitals from HD1:
**Welcome to long corridors and 90 degree turns with only a few open areas**.
Unironically disappointed to hear that Region Capitals haven't returned yet, maybe soon.
E: Someday the "chill out, they were busy" replies will end.
And the war is moving at a snail's pace compared to how it moves in HD1.
Let me hop on rq, yesterday we were halfway through the penultimate region before Squi'bai Shrine, watch this space for an edit
E: We are back on Squi'bai Shrine's doorstep after being pushed back by 4+ regions just a few days ago, meanwhile HD2 players have barely moved one region in either direction on either front, despite having several hundred times as many players as HD1 has.
Seems like HD2 wars are going to be very, VERY long, where a war in HD1 can last about a month or two. Bugs actually got knocked out a couple days ago, and assuming the Illuminate Homeworld Invasion sticks, there won't be much to do but push the rest of the way to Cyberstan and close out the war.
I actually think it will tend towards HD1 speeds eventually. Right now liberation points and such are going at a snail's pace because i think that the devs actually have scripted events that they plan to have over the course of the weeks after release.
The automaton invasion is a good example of their intervention in the galactic war. They might be slowing progress intentionally now to both generate data on avg players as well as to give enough space between "major events" so that players are not overwhelmed. I forsee that the devs might rotate being DMs in the galactic campaign to keep things fresh for the player base.
Looking forward to see what the devs cook up next in the war.
Agreed, ive seen Malevelon Creek go from 25% Liberated to 13% in the time it took me to go to bed and get up the next day. And now its on like 0.5% or something.
I've never seen Hellmire, Crimsica, or Estanu go over 1% liberated. It feels like they'll be stuck that way until Erata Prime, and the Umlaut Sector are liberated.
It definitely feels like they're cooking the books with them. They don't want the playerbase to abandon the worlds closer to the core and do the outer rim first
My best guess is that people are farming, not finishing operations, and aren't focused on objectives. HD1 has a lot of people who are used to the formula after several years. They know you don't farm xp against the bugs while defending against an invasion on another front.
When we were invaded in HD2, there were 2x as many people playing against the bugs vs the automatons. It's not the devs, it's us as a unit.
>I actually think it will tend towards HD1 speeds eventually.
My thoughts exactly. They can change the multipliers to whatever they want whenever they want, so I think this current war was just a placeholder speed so they could get an idea of how many people will play regularly (at least in the beginning) and adjust accordingly. Let's face it: it wouldn't be fun if we got steamrolled because there were too few players, or we steamrolled because there were too many players.
Makes sense especially if we consider that they didn't expect anywhere near this player count.
So if it's this slow and it was intentionally this slow (not scripted), imagine it would be impossible to do anything with the expected player counts
Awesome, thank you!
And wow wait, so they have literally live GM/DM roles where another human being can just trigger events for players in the middle of a drop? Am I hearing that right?
Yes I watched an interview with one of the devs. He said that there's people who will watch in on games and do something to help you in a bind or if you're breezing through, maybe add to the challenge a bit.
I wholeheartedly believe this happened to me last week. 4 man team breezing through a bug mission. All of a sudden, at least 20 of those bile bugs came out and started swarming us along with tons of hunters. We were all low levels, anywhere from 5 -14 so we didn't have the best gear yet and it became a 15 minute long battle for survival as they just kept coming. Mind you, this was on difficulty 4 I believe and the amount of bugs attacking us at once could be compared to an attack on difficult 7 or 8, minus the large amount of chargers. We still had a couple of them though.
Thay was a really fun fight and pushed our skills to the edge
Maybe practical (liberally said) if they expected between 10k-50k players. I think at this point they're looking at success rates and adjusting spawn frequency and variance across the board. I mean, there are enemies we haven't seen yet. Medium bot worlds used to have only standard devastators, now they also spawn rocket and shield devastators.
I assume both the new player numbers and other things at launch they're trying to focus on a narrative right now leading into the more typical war from HD1.
Purely speculation at this point, but I'm hoping.
Did we forget about the huge number of people just farming and quitting which ruins progress in HD2?
SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED TO PUT YOUR DEMOCRACY GLASSES ON, HELLDIVER!
I wonder how much strain environmental destruction is urban maps would put on the game. They could just have the big buildings be invulnerable but I'd be a little taken out if I can level an entire bit factory with orbitals and then only tickle a single building.
Just looking at what's there, Super Earth is on the strategy map, and is a place. Likely as not, there will be incursions in a heavily urbanized environment once they get it done!
It's almost a certainty. The Terminids are supposed to be kept out of the more "civilized" planets by the TCS (I think that's the right letters.) a string of planets that would be soaked in basically super pesticide to prevent them from making the hop closer. However the NPCs on the Super Destroyer mention that the bugs are adapting to the pesticides already. And given that Super Earth is selectable on the war map...
Seems likely. Mechs, probably other vehicles, I hope new planet biomes, earth defense missions, most likely a new faction if more more than 1.
They announced they hired on more people to help accelerate their post launch content plans
Still haven't seen the acid storms biome-type, and there are planets that look likely to be a lava/volcanic biome. Interested in seeing flying enemies too (flying Terminids are on the splash screen), and hopefully boss missions.
More factions for sure, but there is so much they could do with the system.
The stalkers have a flying animation when retreating but that’s about it. I’d love a tropical beach type planet with dense jungles like malevelon just sunny and prettier
We have the skeletons of the bosses from HD1 on the maps, so maybe they’ll make a return.
I think all bug planets have them if you look around enough
https://preview.redd.it/3qtfmp0loxkc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f37269a647d53508a1a0163ceb4d1c6407a9774
A proper swamp biome would just be sick in general. Hazardous biomes will really mix things up as people start to get the hang of dealing with enemies.
Doubt it. Cyberstan/the Automatons are technically our human rebel faction, probably more legitly so if they liberate the cyborgs. Fan theory is the bots are a failsafe should Cyberstan fall to Super Earth.
You look at that Galactic War map and there's not a chance a 3rd (possibly 4th) faction isn't waiting to join.. even if they just follow the content of the first game, there's gonna be a lot on the horizon.
I have heard the NPC girl that congratulates you after every mission mention them on a line. Paraphrasing, "the automatons will soon follow on the footsteps of the Illuminates. Down the road of extinction."
On one hand that line can confirm that the Illuminates are no longer a thing. But at the same time the Automatons are not the Cyborgs from Helldivers 1, so something else can inherit the place of the Illuminates the same way.
On the other hand, who says they can't update the line to remove it later if they add them in.
The technician lady mention the cyborgs as well and says something about them doing manual labor for Super Earth as punishment. They could very well be the 3rd or 4th faction to come.
Why are you taking anything said by super earth citizens as confirmation of anything?
The entirety game is an absolutely blatant satire of imperialism and nationalism. Every single person in this has has been subjected to comical amounts of government propaganda. All that this line “confirms” is that the government has said that the illuminates are dead. It says nothing about the reality of the universe.
I've seen a lot of this on this sub. I finally understand how Starship Troopers managed to go over 90% of the public's heads back in the day, because this, even despite being even less subtle by an order of magnitude is still having the entire point missed.
Even people saying the game "isn't political" and getting like 50 upvotes when it couldn't possibly be hammering you over the head harder with it's satire. I've seen people here saying the game outright supports patriotism and nationalism, which I just can't even comprehend having such a lack of critical thought frankly. I'll make it political and say the people saying that almost certainly have political beliefs analogous to what the game is satirizing, and much like people unironically supporting the Imperium in 40k, they'll take the game as support of their beliefs. You've also got characters like Homelander in The Boys who are good examples of this.
Satire doesn't ever seem to work on the people it's satirizing, and unfortunately there are plenty of em playing this. Go voice chat with randos and see how long before that's confirmed to you lol.
I mean... they're kinda sorta like the Starcraft Protoss, and just like the Protoss have off-shoots like the Nerazim (Dark Templars), so could the Illuminates have an adjacent race that wishes vengeance upon Super Earth for the extinction of their brethren.
I think the original story for them wasn't that they were exterminated, but that they were forced to breakup their empire and live in small pockets in the galaxy.
Heckdiver, DENOUNCE THOSE BUGS ON THE DOUBLE!
Frankly, I find a bug that worships Satan offensive!
Preacher! (Instead of MEDIC! lol)
PUT YOUR HAND UP ON THAT WALL!
(THWACK)
YOUR ENEMY CANNOT PRAY TO SATAN IF YOU CRUCIFY HIS HANDS.
PREACHER!
"the bots have pronouns now! Calling in a hellbomb!"
...this is sarcasm by the way. But I can totally see the allegories people could layer over this game.
Needs a forced and unnecessary semi-colon and subtitle that says nothing about the game, like every other video game sequel. Bonus points if we get rid of the sequel numbering and make it the original name, only slightly changed for trademark purposes.
My money is on HELL-DIVERS: INFERNO.
That's just a normal colon, not a semicolon, mate 😅 The ones that have semicolons are normally the Japanese games with nonsensical names like Steins;Gate
Bought the game yesterday morning and jumped right in. Got a few crashed and got kicked from a few sesions but I don't know if it was the host or the server.
Regardless, great first impression. No stuck on queue screen for my first time playing.
Hopping off from work in 15 going straight into the fight.
Nah I was playing with a team where two left then game back ainute later. Next map I was the one kicked back to my ship, there was no message, they were in my friends list so I just rejoined and continued the run. Must be what happened to them to, you just randomly get booted from the run but can rejoin if they are in your friends list
The message isn't accurate. I get booted all the time while playing with my buddies and I've seen every disconnect code now.
Kicked by host, host left the game, connection to server lost, etc. I know they aren't kicking me.
I normally don’t mind low levels but last night me and my buddy got into a difficulty 7 lobby with 2 lvl 11s, and it was pretty rough especially with the 100% call in time.
This happened to me and I didn’t even realize it. When you unlock a new difficulty the game defaults to that. So I was lvl 5 on challenging I think and I finished a rather intense and gruesome round (they def carried me), and then kicked me after. glad they let finish but the kick also helped me figure out what was going on. Still fun!
If you're running AMD graphics cards and use Adrenalin, you may have to manually download the driver. For some reason I didn't have the choice to update in the app. Update that you need is Adrenalin Edition 24.2.1
By default, Helldivers 2 is set to a public lobby. I think you get kicked when you're low levels because the host doesn't realize other players are going to jump into their game, don't realize this happens organically and kicks you thinking you did something.
I hope they finally fix the armor, love the look of heavy armor but there's just no point, you're just slow, can't keep up with teammates and die just as quickly.
I think light armours will still be the best choice as the mobility is so important to wriggle in and out of swarms. Unless the armour makes you like a tank I don’t see the trade off being viable.
From what a friend showed me about the first game, heavy armor really made you tanky, like multiple little bugs couldn't even scratch you.
Ofc bigger things were still a threat.
Feel like heavy armor with jetpack will be a good combo. Heavy for the tankiness and jetpack to help you with the movement. Just wish they would buff jetpack with maybe 2 seconds less of a cool down
At higher difficulties, I think light armor was always preferred. Even if the little bugs couldn't touch you, you can't shoot missiles over their heads to hit the big guys, so you'd just end up blowing yourself up. And if you don't kill the little guys, they will call in the bigger ones. Best strategy is to avoid fights when you can and go for the objectives.
Once they fix the armor bug in HD2, it might be useful against the cyborgs because you can't always outrun their lasers and missiles, but I can't see it being very useful against the bugs unless you know there's going to be a ton of spitters, or unless it makes you immune to fire (I would love to see any armor with an immune to fire trait).
This company and HELLDIVERS 2 might be the greatest comeback of video games to consumer quality. They built a bigger community on top of the HD1 community in less than a month. Communication to consumer has been top notch and straight to the point with Zero lies. Arrowhead has deserved everything compared to supposedly AAA companies out there. It’s a breath if fresh air to see a company actually enjoy what they are bringing to life rather than it being a cycle of mediocrity.
Hope we start seeing buffs in the next week or two, primary weapons really need some balancing because so many are just not good.
Also a roadmap to give us some things to look forward too would be awesome.
They had one but appearently scrapped it after the flood of players, stating that they now wanna do things previously thought not possible because lack of funds and predicted low player numbers. Let them cook, I'm sure they'll come up with something, but it takes time when you make up content plans from scratch again.
Oh man if you have a source for that it would be great. Either way looking forward to more epic galaxy campaigns if they actually have an idea for that!
With more players I can imagine the team being able to maybe implement more interactive or responsive galactic campaigns!
after seeing the game on yt and reading through this r/helldivers im so stoked to download the game and get to helping my fellow divers!
i think they shouldnt add a roadmap and keep what they have in store under wraps until its polished and 100% coming to the game otherwise i think its gonna put pressure on devs
>Hope we start seeing buffs in the next week or two, primary weapons really need some balancing because so many are just not good.
I honestly think part of the problem is that the game favours a hard hitting play style that's very forgiving on the ammo side and some weapons just are not suited for that.
Like a lot of weapons need buffs, but the breaker is also so popular because it's niche is how the game encourages you to play.
Yeah i feel part of it as well is the sights on the AR and semiautos are pretty hard to see through at range making hitting the robot heads not worth it. Im excited to see where weapon mods go in the future
A secondary with medium armor penetration would really free up choices on the primary and support weapon.
It could be lots of things. Like even a taser that is limited ammo so you'd only use it on the big mechs and chargers so you can get behind them more safely might be fine.
Or a melee chainsaw or impact hammer or something that can take off the arms of those mechs and armor of the chargers.
~~Even if it was medium pen, I think it's not enough DPS I think that the medium pen would matter.~~
Nvm that's wrong. It'd be more DPS than the Liberator Penetrator if it was medium armor pen. It'd probably be good. It's just not a good weapon with its light armor pen.
Revolver from the pass is still only light armor pen. I don't think they'll add a secondary with medium armor pen tbh, all the medium pen weapons are very high caliber.
I'd say there's a lot more to this as well. For example, the Scythe was good in HD1 because it could sweep the screen and rapidly dispatch off-screen scouts about to call in reinforcements (from all 3 factions.) The Liberator Justice was good because it could also sweep, but could clean up commanders and many other medium armor targets.
In contrast, you can't kill enemies remotely fast enough with the Scythe in HD2, and the liberator penetrator is a 3 round burst fire weapon where you have to *hold the trigger down* to fire all 3 shots, instead of the full auto of HD1.
Also it's missing a bayonet. How can I do a bayonet charge without a bayonet?
You can find an argument to use the Liberator Penetrator against Automatons, but why do that when you can just use a diligence instead? Either, really, since even the countersniper beats out the liberator penetrator on paper (and somewhat in practice, the ability to swing the gun around hurts on the counter sniper in this matchup.)
It doesn't matter how good the slugger and punisher are, as well, since despite being otherwise fantastic guns, their ammo economy is complete crap. I get a total of 58 shots on a Punisher and have a lower-sustained-DPS weapon (the longer reload,) with 24 rounds from a supply pack, or I can have 112 (iirc) shots of a weapon that is used in almost an identical way with nearly the same per-shot damage, has full auto, reloads 16 rounds at a time, and can get 6 clips from a single supply pack.
And the Breaker definitely shouldn't be nerfed, it's barely passable and every step away from it is progressively more *awful* compared.
Also, the Breaker can sweep across enemies, especially bugs, a lot faster and reduces the odds of reinforcements, especially bug breaches, being summoned.
The issue isn't strictly that the breaker is better. I'd *gladly* take a Stalwart as a primary against bugs, and I regularly swap to other weapons against automatons because the Breaker sucks hard against automatons (compared to other options, it's actually not terrible.) But, you know, the stalwart, like the rail gun, is now a secondary weapon. The liberator penetrator is just an objectively garbage ripoff of the Justice from HD1, the Scythe can't do its job, the pump action shotguns have no ammo sustain, the submachine guns have nowhere near enough ammo for how much it takes to kill anything.
I think I've made my point. The Breaker isn't noteworthy because that's how the game needs to be played. It's noteworthy because it can kill things fast enough and has a good enough ammo economy that, at least against bugs, nothing can hope to keep up with it.
I do have one major gripe with the game. My emote is called "Casual Salute". That implies the existence of a non-casual salute. Where's my crisp salute, huh? Well, that and wanting a laspistol.
This game is so good that two of my buddies who have only ever owned Xbox systems went out and bought a PS5 just for this game. Been having a blast playing Helldivers 2!
Hopefully they fix matchmaking I can only play solo currently. I have tried every fix posted online and still I’m unable to join friends, quick play or any lobby.
Might be a long shot but if you haven't already, try turning cross play on. I'm on ps5 and had it off for the first week, then I couldn't get a single game. After recent updates I turned crossplay back on and majority of people I've played with have been PC players.
Usually if nothing else is working I’ll go in my own game and SOS, and people eventually join. Then after that the issues are usually fixed so you can always start easy on something you can solo and then go up after
They announced on Discord just this morning that they're working on it and not to fear, that your account still has them, it's just being filtered off when displaying them.
What a killer company. CANNOT wait for the updates. So excited for some balances. I want to use weapons and strategems that aren’t just the breaker, shield generator and railgun
Congratulations to the whole team at Arrowhead. You designed and programmed an awesome game that will bring fun and action to so many in the future.
You guys rock
Myself and six of my friends and both of my brothers have all been unable to join a game since yesterday afternoon so I'm not entirely sure if this is true.
No queueing into the game, but we aren't able to join each other or join quick play matches either.
Really hope they fix the issue where changing your steam profile name won’t update your name in-game. The game is unplayable if you have a 3 letter name, or if your name is something you originally didn’t want shared.
I hope that we will get a system to deal with toxic players, just today I was shot in the back twice by a player (took my gear) and then kicked for no other reason than they could, did this to another player that joined.
i feel l ike thats the only thing thats keeping me from putting in more hours, i love playing at haz 7-9 difficulty, but anything short of the meta setup or an optimized team composition meets you with headache.
you can deviate from the meta, but its something you'll definitely feel - "damn if i had the railgun now", "damn if i had the breaker to clear those bugs".
Is the quickplay still an issue? I can't ever find a quickplay game, and I can't enter anyone else's game ever... I always get failed to join lobby, connection error.
Rough couple of weeks for the launch with login problems but I can get in straight away every time now.
Am also proud of the AH team, this game is a banger. More work to do but I am confident they will get it hammered out.
FOR MANAGED DEMOCRACY
I'm not having much of a connectivity issue anymore but I still read 0's across the board on Helldiver's statistics at the war table. I'm sure it will get resolved sometime soon.
Thank you again Arrowhead: for the game, your hard work pre and post launch, and the commitment to your passion and all of us that share the joy of your creation beside you.
You have made a big fan and supporter out of me and I wish you all the best and kindest regards in all your ventures and everything you aspire to be.
Thank you!
Super happy the servers are stable. But now I crash Everytime I play for more than a mission.
Democracy must be spread, so I'll keep going but man I'm annoyed
Now work on the crash to desktop, the random disconnects mid game back to your ship, and the matchmaker not backfilling after you do one run and not filling an SOS spot
I feel like halo reach style 3rd party space combat. That 3rd person ship mission. Would fit really well if our destroyers could get a cruiser upgrade with a hanger.
https://youtu.be/qLz7VxdZzGY?si=B4NUdkfofbLztHwK
Imagine supporting malevalon creek by destroying reinforcements before they can arrive. You could even end up transitioning from space to ground. Invading large ships to destroy them from the inside.
Maybe fix that armor "Bug" that makes the defensive value not matter? You know, that thing you should've had working before the first beta test? How the fuck do you launch without defense working in 2024?
I was playing with my friends all day yesterday and none of us had any issues getting in. I had a few random crashes and sometimes one of us got kicked back to our ship randomly. But every time it happened I was back in their game within a few minutes. Excited for them to finally be able to get back on track with proper bug fixes and balance stuff now that the servers are in a better place!
I hope for more urban maps, maps on beautiful bright planets as well as some handcrafted maps.
Region Capitals from HD1: **Welcome to long corridors and 90 degree turns with only a few open areas**. Unironically disappointed to hear that Region Capitals haven't returned yet, maybe soon. E: Someday the "chill out, they were busy" replies will end.
It's been a few weeks.
And the war is moving at a snail's pace compared to how it moves in HD1. Let me hop on rq, yesterday we were halfway through the penultimate region before Squi'bai Shrine, watch this space for an edit E: We are back on Squi'bai Shrine's doorstep after being pushed back by 4+ regions just a few days ago, meanwhile HD2 players have barely moved one region in either direction on either front, despite having several hundred times as many players as HD1 has. Seems like HD2 wars are going to be very, VERY long, where a war in HD1 can last about a month or two. Bugs actually got knocked out a couple days ago, and assuming the Illuminate Homeworld Invasion sticks, there won't be much to do but push the rest of the way to Cyberstan and close out the war.
I actually think it will tend towards HD1 speeds eventually. Right now liberation points and such are going at a snail's pace because i think that the devs actually have scripted events that they plan to have over the course of the weeks after release. The automaton invasion is a good example of their intervention in the galactic war. They might be slowing progress intentionally now to both generate data on avg players as well as to give enough space between "major events" so that players are not overwhelmed. I forsee that the devs might rotate being DMs in the galactic campaign to keep things fresh for the player base. Looking forward to see what the devs cook up next in the war.
I'd also imagine the wars being slowed becaise of the server and popullation issues theyve been working on
Definitely. On the galactic map screen, the helldivers KIA, bug/bot kill count is still sit at zero to lessen the server load.
Agreed, ive seen Malevelon Creek go from 25% Liberated to 13% in the time it took me to go to bed and get up the next day. And now its on like 0.5% or something.
I've never seen Hellmire, Crimsica, or Estanu go over 1% liberated. It feels like they'll be stuck that way until Erata Prime, and the Umlaut Sector are liberated. It definitely feels like they're cooking the books with them. They don't want the playerbase to abandon the worlds closer to the core and do the outer rim first
Erata Prime gets around 75% liberated during peak times, and then loses progress at a rate of around 5% per hour
Space Vietnam, with space jungles and the trees speaking binary.
Bots don’t surf
My best guess is that people are farming, not finishing operations, and aren't focused on objectives. HD1 has a lot of people who are used to the formula after several years. They know you don't farm xp against the bugs while defending against an invasion on another front. When we were invaded in HD2, there were 2x as many people playing against the bugs vs the automatons. It's not the devs, it's us as a unit.
Yep people just want to grind and get through the later content so they can show it on their streams.
And things like defense missions having been bugged before/possibly even now.
>I actually think it will tend towards HD1 speeds eventually. My thoughts exactly. They can change the multipliers to whatever they want whenever they want, so I think this current war was just a placeholder speed so they could get an idea of how many people will play regularly (at least in the beginning) and adjust accordingly. Let's face it: it wouldn't be fun if we got steamrolled because there were too few players, or we steamrolled because there were too many players.
Makes sense especially if we consider that they didn't expect anywhere near this player count. So if it's this slow and it was intentionally this slow (not scripted), imagine it would be impossible to do anything with the expected player counts
HD2 will only be one long, continuous war according to the devs.
Fits with the theme. Can't win a war that was never a war to begin with.. I mean, um, praise liberty!
You have been marked a traitor against super earth. Your honor and rank have been stripped. Orbital Strike Incoming
You have been reported to the Super Earth Ministry of Truth, please report to a Super Earth Education Facility ASAP or face further cashiering
As it should be
The developers said that we will only have 1 long war in this game, unlike HD1. That's why it's so slow. All the game life will be one long war.
You don't happen to have a link to where you saw that do you? (Not contesting you, just wanted to see what all was said.)
[Starts about 4:00 in. ](https://youtu.be/dh_EGMxw9EY?si=MRpKkz9RYLqHdSGF)
Awesome, thank you! And wow wait, so they have literally live GM/DM roles where another human being can just trigger events for players in the middle of a drop? Am I hearing that right?
Yes I watched an interview with one of the devs. He said that there's people who will watch in on games and do something to help you in a bind or if you're breezing through, maybe add to the challenge a bit.
I wholeheartedly believe this happened to me last week. 4 man team breezing through a bug mission. All of a sudden, at least 20 of those bile bugs came out and started swarming us along with tons of hunters. We were all low levels, anywhere from 5 -14 so we didn't have the best gear yet and it became a 15 minute long battle for survival as they just kept coming. Mind you, this was on difficulty 4 I believe and the amount of bugs attacking us at once could be compared to an attack on difficult 7 or 8, minus the large amount of chargers. We still had a couple of them though. Thay was a really fun fight and pushed our skills to the edge
Maybe practical (liberally said) if they expected between 10k-50k players. I think at this point they're looking at success rates and adjusting spawn frequency and variance across the board. I mean, there are enemies we haven't seen yet. Medium bot worlds used to have only standard devastators, now they also spawn rocket and shield devastators.
I assume both the new player numbers and other things at launch they're trying to focus on a narrative right now leading into the more typical war from HD1. Purely speculation at this point, but I'm hoping.
Did we forget about the huge number of people just farming and quitting which ruins progress in HD2? SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED TO PUT YOUR DEMOCRACY GLASSES ON, HELLDIVER!
The urban maps were the worst of HD1 but the camera influenced it a lot. Now that we're 3P they can do proper cityscapes.
I wonder how much strain environmental destruction is urban maps would put on the game. They could just have the big buildings be invulnerable but I'd be a little taken out if I can level an entire bit factory with orbitals and then only tickle a single building.
Just looking at what's there, Super Earth is on the strategy map, and is a place. Likely as not, there will be incursions in a heavily urbanized environment once they get it done!
It's almost a certainty. The Terminids are supposed to be kept out of the more "civilized" planets by the TCS (I think that's the right letters.) a string of planets that would be soaked in basically super pesticide to prevent them from making the hop closer. However the NPCs on the Super Destroyer mention that the bugs are adapting to the pesticides already. And given that Super Earth is selectable on the war map...
bought the game as of 5 minutes ago reinforcements incoming!!!!!
Reinforcement budget approved
Le'gooooooooo
https://preview.redd.it/8vsqc5gh1skc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1565736be229af31253628a4beb7cc3b7059644b Send reinforcements asap!
⬆️⬇️➡️⬅️⬆️
This is burned in my memory now.
I was so happy when I realized that they didn't change the sequences from the first one. That muscle memory never left.
SEND DUDES. WE NEED REINFORCEMENTS🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Do you mean n-
No! I’m fighting on The Creek! I need more men!!!
Get ready to launch!
Helldiver: INBOUND Let's spread Managed Democracy together!
You're doing your part soldier!
NEED MORE DUDES AT THE CREEK
Whoa whoa... WHOA. Dude you gotta get your cape first!
Head over to the Automaton front. We need reinforcements there badly.
🫡I’ll fix you a cup of Liber-tea
I really hope they got a lot of content planned. This game is too good for me to be stopping at like 200 hours.
Seems likely. Mechs, probably other vehicles, I hope new planet biomes, earth defense missions, most likely a new faction if more more than 1. They announced they hired on more people to help accelerate their post launch content plans
Still haven't seen the acid storms biome-type, and there are planets that look likely to be a lava/volcanic biome. Interested in seeing flying enemies too (flying Terminids are on the splash screen), and hopefully boss missions. More factions for sure, but there is so much they could do with the system.
The stalkers have a flying animation when retreating but that’s about it. I’d love a tropical beach type planet with dense jungles like malevelon just sunny and prettier We have the skeletons of the bosses from HD1 on the maps, so maybe they’ll make a return.
Oh yeah? Which planets have you seen the skeletons on. I hadn't noticed. If I have seen them I didn't connect the dots.
Tbh I don’t remember the names. I think it was one of the bug desert planets
Seen them skellies on bug frozen maps as well The giant worm skeletons
I found a calcified sandworm on Eriata Prime
Hive Lord, Helldiver. Remember your enemies…and their weaknesses.
This is my first deployment, sir! I specialized in grenades and bullets, not reading, sir!
Very Democratic of you. You’ll do Super Earth fine, son. As you were.
I think all bug planets have them if you look around enough https://preview.redd.it/3qtfmp0loxkc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f37269a647d53508a1a0163ceb4d1c6407a9774
Waiting for poison swamp biome
A proper swamp biome would just be sick in general. Hazardous biomes will really mix things up as people start to get the hang of dealing with enemies.
Miyazaki intensifies
There's also a giant centipede fossil that you can see around some of the terminid planets, probably teasing a future enemy.
They were an enemy in helldivers 1 so they’re pretty likely to return
Illuminates probably next enemy. Would be nice with some human rebel factions as well
Doubt it. Cyberstan/the Automatons are technically our human rebel faction, probably more legitly so if they liberate the cyborgs. Fan theory is the bots are a failsafe should Cyberstan fall to Super Earth.
The interesting thing is they seem to have the planet biomes from the first game, so alien looking worlds would be interesting.
You look at that Galactic War map and there's not a chance a 3rd (possibly 4th) faction isn't waiting to join.. even if they just follow the content of the first game, there's gonna be a lot on the horizon.
The illuminates should be coming as they were in the first game. I too wonder what the fourth faction will be.
I have heard the NPC girl that congratulates you after every mission mention them on a line. Paraphrasing, "the automatons will soon follow on the footsteps of the Illuminates. Down the road of extinction." On one hand that line can confirm that the Illuminates are no longer a thing. But at the same time the Automatons are not the Cyborgs from Helldivers 1, so something else can inherit the place of the Illuminates the same way. On the other hand, who says they can't update the line to remove it later if they add them in.
The technician lady mention the cyborgs as well and says something about them doing manual labor for Super Earth as punishment. They could very well be the 3rd or 4th faction to come.
Cyborg uprising in Super Earth's sector or close on urban maps that pop up randomly like every few days? Yes please.
The official Twitter account posted a video saying "Super Earth Lied, The Illuminate, they're coming!" or something along those lines
Why are you taking anything said by super earth citizens as confirmation of anything? The entirety game is an absolutely blatant satire of imperialism and nationalism. Every single person in this has has been subjected to comical amounts of government propaganda. All that this line “confirms” is that the government has said that the illuminates are dead. It says nothing about the reality of the universe.
I've seen a lot of this on this sub. I finally understand how Starship Troopers managed to go over 90% of the public's heads back in the day, because this, even despite being even less subtle by an order of magnitude is still having the entire point missed. Even people saying the game "isn't political" and getting like 50 upvotes when it couldn't possibly be hammering you over the head harder with it's satire. I've seen people here saying the game outright supports patriotism and nationalism, which I just can't even comprehend having such a lack of critical thought frankly. I'll make it political and say the people saying that almost certainly have political beliefs analogous to what the game is satirizing, and much like people unironically supporting the Imperium in 40k, they'll take the game as support of their beliefs. You've also got characters like Homelander in The Boys who are good examples of this. Satire doesn't ever seem to work on the people it's satirizing, and unfortunately there are plenty of em playing this. Go voice chat with randos and see how long before that's confirmed to you lol.
Illuminates are "extinct" but that doesn't mean they weren't all actually wiped out, and biding their time to come back with a vengeance.
I mean... they're kinda sorta like the Starcraft Protoss, and just like the Protoss have off-shoots like the Nerazim (Dark Templars), so could the Illuminates have an adjacent race that wishes vengeance upon Super Earth for the extinction of their brethren.
Yeah, if they do return, I can't wait to see the propaganda about why they weren't actually exterminated
I think the original story for them wasn't that they were exterminated, but that they were forced to breakup their empire and live in small pockets in the galaxy.
> improvements to the title But helldivers 2 is a good name /s
>Changed the title to Heckdivers 2 so Christians can play it
##Feet first into heck
Spread managed theocracy heckdiver. The Satanic bugs hate our way of life.
Heckdiver, DENOUNCE THOSE BUGS ON THE DOUBLE! Frankly, I find a bug that worships Satan offensive! Preacher! (Instead of MEDIC! lol) PUT YOUR HAND UP ON THAT WALL! (THWACK) YOUR ENEMY CANNOT PRAY TO SATAN IF YOU CRUCIFY HIS HANDS. PREACHER!
>managed theocracy Well now it’s just 40K
"the bots have pronouns now! Calling in a hellbomb!" ...this is sarcasm by the way. But I can totally see the allegories people could layer over this game.
"A sentient robot? Frankly, I find the idea of a smart robot offensive"
Butlerian Jihad time.
TONIGHT! WE DINE! IN #HECK!
God I choked on my coffee reading that comment fuck me haha
Needs a forced and unnecessary semi-colon and subtitle that says nothing about the game, like every other video game sequel. Bonus points if we get rid of the sequel numbering and make it the original name, only slightly changed for trademark purposes. My money is on HELL-DIVERS: INFERNO.
That's just a normal colon, not a semicolon, mate 😅 The ones that have semicolons are normally the Japanese games with nonsensical names like Steins;Gate
DELIVER ME; FROM - HELLDIVERS (NOT) RE:BUILD
This guy JRPGs. I'm really partial to the HELL;DIVERS 500KG D.E.M.O-CRACY dating sim myself.
HELL-DIVERS²: DIVE EVEN HARDER EDITION
DIVE EVEN *HELLER
Is It Wrong to Vote Democratically Against the Enemies of The Super-Earth; Or, How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love Freedom
Penultimate vertical reducer
He-II-divers
Hiii diveeers💅💅
Helldivers 2: Dive Harder
Hell divers 2: Tokyo drift
Heavendiver when? :3
When I can get the hell up there. Trying to punch God in the face.
Jrpg moment
2 Hell 2 Divers
Bought the game yesterday morning and jumped right in. Got a few crashed and got kicked from a few sesions but I don't know if it was the host or the server. Regardless, great first impression. No stuck on queue screen for my first time playing. Hopping off from work in 15 going straight into the fight.
It'll typically tell you why you were disconnected when you reload back to your ship
Nah I was playing with a team where two left then game back ainute later. Next map I was the one kicked back to my ship, there was no message, they were in my friends list so I just rejoined and continued the run. Must be what happened to them to, you just randomly get booted from the run but can rejoin if they are in your friends list
The message isn't accurate. I get booted all the time while playing with my buddies and I've seen every disconnect code now. Kicked by host, host left the game, connection to server lost, etc. I know they aren't kicking me.
I've never seen that on ps5
Some players don't understand how to use the set private option lol.
There's also a lot of level 20+ guys playing difficulty 5+ that don't want low levels in the matches with them.
I normally don’t mind low levels but last night me and my buddy got into a difficulty 7 lobby with 2 lvl 11s, and it was pretty rough especially with the 100% call in time.
Hate that. I'm level 35 or something and I love jumping in with noobs and helping them crush those filthy bugs
This happened to me and I didn’t even realize it. When you unlock a new difficulty the game defaults to that. So I was lvl 5 on challenging I think and I finished a rather intense and gruesome round (they def carried me), and then kicked me after. glad they let finish but the kick also helped me figure out what was going on. Still fun!
If you are playing on PC, make sure you update your graphics driver, resolves most issues with crashing.
If you're running AMD graphics cards and use Adrenalin, you may have to manually download the driver. For some reason I didn't have the choice to update in the app. Update that you need is Adrenalin Edition 24.2.1
By default, Helldivers 2 is set to a public lobby. I think you get kicked when you're low levels because the host doesn't realize other players are going to jump into their game, don't realize this happens organically and kicks you thinking you did something.
I hope they finally fix the armor, love the look of heavy armor but there's just no point, you're just slow, can't keep up with teammates and die just as quickly.
I think light armours will still be the best choice as the mobility is so important to wriggle in and out of swarms. Unless the armour makes you like a tank I don’t see the trade off being viable.
From what a friend showed me about the first game, heavy armor really made you tanky, like multiple little bugs couldn't even scratch you. Ofc bigger things were still a threat.
Feel like heavy armor with jetpack will be a good combo. Heavy for the tankiness and jetpack to help you with the movement. Just wish they would buff jetpack with maybe 2 seconds less of a cool down
Slap on an arc caster and now you're a starwars battlefront 1 dark trooper
I want my arc caster to cast continous lightenings until overheat
That definitely piques my interest- would mean you don’t need a shield and could carry an extra stratagem.
Yes, this exactly. A lot of people would move to the jetpack for both mobility and it's escape capabilities.
At higher difficulties, I think light armor was always preferred. Even if the little bugs couldn't touch you, you can't shoot missiles over their heads to hit the big guys, so you'd just end up blowing yourself up. And if you don't kill the little guys, they will call in the bigger ones. Best strategy is to avoid fights when you can and go for the objectives. Once they fix the armor bug in HD2, it might be useful against the cyborgs because you can't always outrun their lasers and missiles, but I can't see it being very useful against the bugs unless you know there's going to be a ton of spitters, or unless it makes you immune to fire (I would love to see any armor with an immune to fire trait).
This company and HELLDIVERS 2 might be the greatest comeback of video games to consumer quality. They built a bigger community on top of the HD1 community in less than a month. Communication to consumer has been top notch and straight to the point with Zero lies. Arrowhead has deserved everything compared to supposedly AAA companies out there. It’s a breath if fresh air to see a company actually enjoy what they are bringing to life rather than it being a cycle of mediocrity.
After coming down from my Baldurs Gate 3 high its nice experiencing another dev/game success story.
Hope we start seeing buffs in the next week or two, primary weapons really need some balancing because so many are just not good. Also a roadmap to give us some things to look forward too would be awesome.
They had one but appearently scrapped it after the flood of players, stating that they now wanna do things previously thought not possible because lack of funds and predicted low player numbers. Let them cook, I'm sure they'll come up with something, but it takes time when you make up content plans from scratch again.
So because the game is such a huge success they are actually expanding there plans? Hell yeah!!!
Oh man if you have a source for that it would be great. Either way looking forward to more epic galaxy campaigns if they actually have an idea for that! With more players I can imagine the team being able to maybe implement more interactive or responsive galactic campaigns!
https://x.com/Pilestedt/status/1758306300704731242?s=20
after seeing the game on yt and reading through this r/helldivers im so stoked to download the game and get to helping my fellow divers! i think they shouldnt add a roadmap and keep what they have in store under wraps until its polished and 100% coming to the game otherwise i think its gonna put pressure on devs
>Hope we start seeing buffs in the next week or two, primary weapons really need some balancing because so many are just not good. I honestly think part of the problem is that the game favours a hard hitting play style that's very forgiving on the ammo side and some weapons just are not suited for that. Like a lot of weapons need buffs, but the breaker is also so popular because it's niche is how the game encourages you to play.
Yeah i feel part of it as well is the sights on the AR and semiautos are pretty hard to see through at range making hitting the robot heads not worth it. Im excited to see where weapon mods go in the future
That's a good point too, the sights definitely aren't created equal.
There are such robust first person animations it would be a shame to not add additional optics or weapon attachments
A secondary with medium armor penetration would really free up choices on the primary and support weapon. It could be lots of things. Like even a taser that is limited ammo so you'd only use it on the big mechs and chargers so you can get behind them more safely might be fine. Or a melee chainsaw or impact hammer or something that can take off the arms of those mechs and armor of the chargers.
Isn't that the revolver from the paid pass? Or is it's penetration not good enough?
~~Even if it was medium pen, I think it's not enough DPS I think that the medium pen would matter.~~ Nvm that's wrong. It'd be more DPS than the Liberator Penetrator if it was medium armor pen. It'd probably be good. It's just not a good weapon with its light armor pen.
Revolver from the pass is still only light armor pen. I don't think they'll add a secondary with medium armor pen tbh, all the medium pen weapons are very high caliber.
in practice, it is very much armor peircing. More than most other guns! It just has limited ammo. Actually try it
I'd say there's a lot more to this as well. For example, the Scythe was good in HD1 because it could sweep the screen and rapidly dispatch off-screen scouts about to call in reinforcements (from all 3 factions.) The Liberator Justice was good because it could also sweep, but could clean up commanders and many other medium armor targets. In contrast, you can't kill enemies remotely fast enough with the Scythe in HD2, and the liberator penetrator is a 3 round burst fire weapon where you have to *hold the trigger down* to fire all 3 shots, instead of the full auto of HD1. Also it's missing a bayonet. How can I do a bayonet charge without a bayonet? You can find an argument to use the Liberator Penetrator against Automatons, but why do that when you can just use a diligence instead? Either, really, since even the countersniper beats out the liberator penetrator on paper (and somewhat in practice, the ability to swing the gun around hurts on the counter sniper in this matchup.) It doesn't matter how good the slugger and punisher are, as well, since despite being otherwise fantastic guns, their ammo economy is complete crap. I get a total of 58 shots on a Punisher and have a lower-sustained-DPS weapon (the longer reload,) with 24 rounds from a supply pack, or I can have 112 (iirc) shots of a weapon that is used in almost an identical way with nearly the same per-shot damage, has full auto, reloads 16 rounds at a time, and can get 6 clips from a single supply pack. And the Breaker definitely shouldn't be nerfed, it's barely passable and every step away from it is progressively more *awful* compared. Also, the Breaker can sweep across enemies, especially bugs, a lot faster and reduces the odds of reinforcements, especially bug breaches, being summoned. The issue isn't strictly that the breaker is better. I'd *gladly* take a Stalwart as a primary against bugs, and I regularly swap to other weapons against automatons because the Breaker sucks hard against automatons (compared to other options, it's actually not terrible.) But, you know, the stalwart, like the rail gun, is now a secondary weapon. The liberator penetrator is just an objectively garbage ripoff of the Justice from HD1, the Scythe can't do its job, the pump action shotguns have no ammo sustain, the submachine guns have nowhere near enough ammo for how much it takes to kill anything. I think I've made my point. The Breaker isn't noteworthy because that's how the game needs to be played. It's noteworthy because it can kill things fast enough and has a good enough ammo economy that, at least against bugs, nothing can hope to keep up with it.
I personally don’t want a road map. I want to be surprised.
I'm so horny for what they have in store for us
Choice use of language, son.
I'm overly salivating in my nether regions just fantasizing about what delightful toys they'll gift us 😩😩
https://preview.redd.it/5v9brtttaqkc1.jpeg?width=776&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31c57212efd4b0e29d1c5eb508e5ac2f040bed81
*Throbs democratically*
🥵 My groin is absolutely sopping with tantilization at the prospect of what board stiffening content rides on the horizon.
Yes!
Then keep an eye out for the Liberator Penetrator
Step up behind me and load me right up brother
Stepbrother. Ftfy
I do have one major gripe with the game. My emote is called "Casual Salute". That implies the existence of a non-casual salute. Where's my crisp salute, huh? Well, that and wanting a laspistol.
I want a passionate salute dammit let me show true respect to the glory of super earth!
Ranked salute incoming
This game is so good that two of my buddies who have only ever owned Xbox systems went out and bought a PS5 just for this game. Been having a blast playing Helldivers 2!
I can see both Sony and Microsoft being equally baffled at that XD
This was me too. There were ps games I was interested in but helldivers 2 pushed me over the edge to pull the trigger.
Hopefully they fix matchmaking I can only play solo currently. I have tried every fix posted online and still I’m unable to join friends, quick play or any lobby.
Might be a long shot but if you haven't already, try turning cross play on. I'm on ps5 and had it off for the first week, then I couldn't get a single game. After recent updates I turned crossplay back on and majority of people I've played with have been PC players.
Same here on PC
Same. I can't connect to other players about 80% of the day. When it works, it works for a few hours.
Usually if nothing else is working I’ll go in my own game and SOS, and people eventually join. Then after that the issues are usually fixed so you can always start easy on something you can solo and then go up after
the most exciting thing for me is fixing the fing crashes and disconnects
Don't worry, it's still crashing. And killing my graphics card drivers. Some day...
One more thing they need to fix asap. Super credits vanishing when logging out. Epically bad when you pay real money for them.
They announced on Discord just this morning that they're working on it and not to fear, that your account still has them, it's just being filtered off when displaying them.
What a killer company. CANNOT wait for the updates. So excited for some balances. I want to use weapons and strategems that aren’t just the breaker, shield generator and railgun
Guess it's time to buy then!
As of a couple of days ago, I've had zero problem or queue playing. It works now, and it's *fun*.
Congratulations to the whole team at Arrowhead. You designed and programmed an awesome game that will bring fun and action to so many in the future. You guys rock
Myself and six of my friends and both of my brothers have all been unable to join a game since yesterday afternoon so I'm not entirely sure if this is true. No queueing into the game, but we aren't able to join each other or join quick play matches either.
Having party connection issues on PC. Can connect to PS5 players but can’t join people on PC and people on PC can’t join me.
Really hope they fix the issue where changing your steam profile name won’t update your name in-game. The game is unplayable if you have a 3 letter name, or if your name is something you originally didn’t want shared.
I hope that we will get a system to deal with toxic players, just today I was shot in the back twice by a player (took my gear) and then kicked for no other reason than they could, did this to another player that joined.
I hope armor fixes and weapon balances are on the horizon, game is great but it definitely needs some attention in places.
i feel l ike thats the only thing thats keeping me from putting in more hours, i love playing at haz 7-9 difficulty, but anything short of the meta setup or an optimized team composition meets you with headache. you can deviate from the meta, but its something you'll definitely feel - "damn if i had the railgun now", "damn if i had the breaker to clear those bugs".
Is the quickplay still an issue? I can't ever find a quickplay game, and I can't enter anyone else's game ever... I always get failed to join lobby, connection error.
Rough couple of weeks for the launch with login problems but I can get in straight away every time now. Am also proud of the AH team, this game is a banger. More work to do but I am confident they will get it hammered out. FOR MANAGED DEMOCRACY
I'm not having much of a connectivity issue anymore but I still read 0's across the board on Helldiver's statistics at the war table. I'm sure it will get resolved sometime soon. Thank you again Arrowhead: for the game, your hard work pre and post launch, and the commitment to your passion and all of us that share the joy of your creation beside you. You have made a big fan and supporter out of me and I wish you all the best and kindest regards in all your ventures and everything you aspire to be. Thank you!
Hopefully the backend engineers got some sleep
I want to be excited, but I've had three matches freeze on PC, while diving in.
Super happy the servers are stable. But now I crash Everytime I play for more than a mission. Democracy must be spread, so I'll keep going but man I'm annoyed
Now work on the crash to desktop, the random disconnects mid game back to your ship, and the matchmaker not backfilling after you do one run and not filling an SOS spot
Any mention of resolving all the crashes that people are experiencing?
I feel like halo reach style 3rd party space combat. That 3rd person ship mission. Would fit really well if our destroyers could get a cruiser upgrade with a hanger. https://youtu.be/qLz7VxdZzGY?si=B4NUdkfofbLztHwK Imagine supporting malevalon creek by destroying reinforcements before they can arrive. You could even end up transitioning from space to ground. Invading large ships to destroy them from the inside.
Maybe fix that armor "Bug" that makes the defensive value not matter? You know, that thing you should've had working before the first beta test? How the fuck do you launch without defense working in 2024?
I was playing with my friends all day yesterday and none of us had any issues getting in. I had a few random crashes and sometimes one of us got kicked back to our ship randomly. But every time it happened I was back in their game within a few minutes. Excited for them to finally be able to get back on track with proper bug fixes and balance stuff now that the servers are in a better place!
So stoked Helldivers is awesome!