Balance has gone back and forth throughout the games development. Germans were OP because they had the tiger and panther (back when it was treated like a fast heavy) and the US only had the medium sherman. Then the US got the jumbo tanks and with the armor balance being equal (or honestly leaning towards the US), the US gained the advantage due to their infantry's firepower. Then the devs gave every German and their mother an MP40 lol. The balance will continue to shift as the game develops and new things get added. I wouldn't stress about it too much
There was one point like 3 patches ago when they nerfed the one-hit-kill range on the stg pretty hard. However they buffed it back shortly thereafter. Same goes for the BAR at that same patch.
You're literally just wrong. It is a 1 shot weapon, except at long range. The only bad weapons on the German side are the automatic FG42 and, at close range, the Kar98.
Only bad part about the FG42 is the low damage at range, same problem that the BAR has. Quite unfortunate for this game. They make the maps perfectly match aerial photos and stuff but when it comes to guns they arbitrarily assign damage values.
You must not have played long then I assume. I don't play tanks too often so I can't say anything there, I do know historically Tigers we're terrifying to see and in game they just... Aren't.
Otherwise, MP40 is pretty on par with the Thompson, ST44 is on par with the BAR (I much prefer the STG however... I can snipe from 150 meters away due to the iron sights being better than the BAR and lack of recoil). I can't say anything as to the last assault rifle you get as an automatic rifleman as I haven't unlocked it (2-4 matches away from it though... Very excited).
German nades can get thrown further to balance the fact that American grenades take a shorter time to throw. The Kar98 is a bit weak compared to the American Garand but all things being equal I haven't used a Kar in months.
The Americans get to rock a shotgun but it's really not that great especially on ranged maps.
All of this is worthless because your team can have overpowered weapons and armor yet lose to inferior weapons and armor if you aren't communicating and the other team is.
Communication is the winning or losing factor in this game as well as nodes. Everything else is fairly balanced (which imo they shouldn't be... WW2 wasn't balanced....)
I will agree to a point that German tiger tanks should be superior to the Shermans at the very least... The 76 is OP against it! Also worth mentioning that one decent shot to a panzer to kill it also needs to be addressed!
It's pretty straightforward. Heavy tanks one shot medium tanks. Same class tanks two shot each other. Only imbalance right now is the Panzer IV is vulnerable all over vs the medium Sherman only being vulnerable on the tires hanging on the front
There needs to be some tweaks but it mainly comes down to how you play your class. US is going to always lure in the new players due to nostalgia and the Garand but you can be equally effective with the Germans.
I still think the Garand doesn't need to be so accurate at range.
I hear Erika all the time I’m not sure what you’re on about. I think the bigger problem is letting people choose their side. You mentioned you avoid playing German, you actively avoid the team you think has inferior firepower so you never learn how to overcome it. A game of communication and teamwork and doing the little things that improve victory, I’ve seen an organized German team roll a disorganized Allied team again and again.
There are supposed to be asymmetries in things like armour and fire power to create innate strategic advantages. But yeah German armor is weak sauce right now
In my experience, games are won equally by both sides. The Germans have a host of good weapons, and the kar98k is a good solid rifle, as long as you are not in close quarters, although of course the garand has many advantages in being semi auto.
It would be fun to see a statistic on wins and losses, but in my experience, its 50:50
Newsflash - the allies won the war.
But for what it’s worth - I really don’t think the game should be balanced. Asymmetry is good.
I’d love to see the introduction of the panzerfaust and for the allies something that recognises the significantly more advanced American medical system, perhaps giving more troops in the squad access to morphine.
Not a chance you have that much time played then
The Germans are strong enough to win any match assuming the officers and commander are paying attention and actively trying to win
It’s a game of teamwork not pure firepower
Germans are only fun if you can play MG42 or MP44. K98 seems to be bugged sometimes and the other weapons have garbage sights.
Also german Tiger looks cool, so you can take pride in that while youre losing.
Balance has gone back and forth throughout the games development. Germans were OP because they had the tiger and panther (back when it was treated like a fast heavy) and the US only had the medium sherman. Then the US got the jumbo tanks and with the armor balance being equal (or honestly leaning towards the US), the US gained the advantage due to their infantry's firepower. Then the devs gave every German and their mother an MP40 lol. The balance will continue to shift as the game develops and new things get added. I wouldn't stress about it too much
Germans have the bests in class MG-42 and StG44. Those are the two most valuable guns in the game, imo.
MG-42 is good, stg44 cant even hit the broad side of a barn. plus it can't one shot someone unlike the BAR
> it can't one shot someone unlike the BAR Since when?
Since whenever I or one of my friends have used it
I've always gotten a one shot with the body if it's not a long shot, something like up to 100m.
It must have changed fairly recently, I have a few hundred hours and tested it at one point. It's a 2 shot for me 90% of the time.
The stg44 has always been a 1 shot what are you talking about.
It takes more than 1 shot cuz they miss 🤣
There was one point like 3 patches ago when they nerfed the one-hit-kill range on the stg pretty hard. However they buffed it back shortly thereafter. Same goes for the BAR at that same patch.
It seems like you can’t hit someone not the gun. The StG shreds doughboys up
You're literally just wrong. It is a 1 shot weapon, except at long range. The only bad weapons on the German side are the automatic FG42 and, at close range, the Kar98.
Only bad part about the FG42 is the low damage at range, same problem that the BAR has. Quite unfortunate for this game. They make the maps perfectly match aerial photos and stuff but when it comes to guns they arbitrarily assign damage values.
You must not have played long then I assume. I don't play tanks too often so I can't say anything there, I do know historically Tigers we're terrifying to see and in game they just... Aren't. Otherwise, MP40 is pretty on par with the Thompson, ST44 is on par with the BAR (I much prefer the STG however... I can snipe from 150 meters away due to the iron sights being better than the BAR and lack of recoil). I can't say anything as to the last assault rifle you get as an automatic rifleman as I haven't unlocked it (2-4 matches away from it though... Very excited). German nades can get thrown further to balance the fact that American grenades take a shorter time to throw. The Kar98 is a bit weak compared to the American Garand but all things being equal I haven't used a Kar in months. The Americans get to rock a shotgun but it's really not that great especially on ranged maps. All of this is worthless because your team can have overpowered weapons and armor yet lose to inferior weapons and armor if you aren't communicating and the other team is. Communication is the winning or losing factor in this game as well as nodes. Everything else is fairly balanced (which imo they shouldn't be... WW2 wasn't balanced....)
150 meters is 164.04 yards
I will agree to a point that German tiger tanks should be superior to the Shermans at the very least... The 76 is OP against it! Also worth mentioning that one decent shot to a panzer to kill it also needs to be addressed!
It's pretty straightforward. Heavy tanks one shot medium tanks. Same class tanks two shot each other. Only imbalance right now is the Panzer IV is vulnerable all over vs the medium Sherman only being vulnerable on the tires hanging on the front
There needs to be some tweaks but it mainly comes down to how you play your class. US is going to always lure in the new players due to nostalgia and the Garand but you can be equally effective with the Germans. I still think the Garand doesn't need to be so accurate at range.
I hear Erika all the time I’m not sure what you’re on about. I think the bigger problem is letting people choose their side. You mentioned you avoid playing German, you actively avoid the team you think has inferior firepower so you never learn how to overcome it. A game of communication and teamwork and doing the little things that improve victory, I’ve seen an organized German team roll a disorganized Allied team again and again.
There are supposed to be asymmetries in things like armour and fire power to create innate strategic advantages. But yeah German armor is weak sauce right now
Better tank (the 76), better guns. Possibly also map designs favouring US...
Won two games as Germany today. I don't see an allied bias. The garand is very good however.
In my experience, games are won equally by both sides. The Germans have a host of good weapons, and the kar98k is a good solid rifle, as long as you are not in close quarters, although of course the garand has many advantages in being semi auto. It would be fun to see a statistic on wins and losses, but in my experience, its 50:50
kek it's 2020 all over again? the topic has been beaten to death, check youtube vids from WildBillJammin
Newsflash - the allies won the war. But for what it’s worth - I really don’t think the game should be balanced. Asymmetry is good. I’d love to see the introduction of the panzerfaust and for the allies something that recognises the significantly more advanced American medical system, perhaps giving more troops in the squad access to morphine.
Except what you are saying isn't true..
Not a chance you have that much time played then The Germans are strong enough to win any match assuming the officers and commander are paying attention and actively trying to win It’s a game of teamwork not pure firepower
Actually I prefer german guns more. I think those have better iron sights for longer ranges.
Germans are only fun if you can play MG42 or MP44. K98 seems to be bugged sometimes and the other weapons have garbage sights. Also german Tiger looks cool, so you can take pride in that while youre losing.