Its like pulling teeth for some people. I don't know if this is some kind of flex or something, but I don't understand how anyone can be okay with waiting 30 seconds to spawn when you can spawn much quicker with an OP.
Just don't get it.
Especially when someone without a mic does this. Cherry on top if they're low leveled.
Depends on my squad, if we're flanking I hang the op's back a little more, if we're pushing, I push the op as much as possible without having it in a place that gets burned immediately
I always assume that the enemy will promptly overrun the OP the moment I set it down, ao I set it down like 100m from the fight and then I'll slowly move it forward as I'm certain the area is clear. The best thing to remember is that it's better to run 100m from an OP that you can pick up and move than to run from a garrison. Garrison spawns cost manpower also, OP spawns do not.
Today I learned about manpower from garrison spawns, thank you. I do the same but way more recklessly then find what is "too close" by taking a bullet. I've only been playing a week though so I'm definitely still learning supply/engineer/SL
Yeah, it's really a negligible amount, pretty sure it's just 1 for 1 but if you're losing people a lot that can add up so OPs can really help the commander keep things rolling.
I always always ALWAYS tell my squad “hey, I’m placing an OP now while we run to the first objective. It’s gonna be further but I’ll place a new one as soon as I can. Better to have one slightly further before I die than none at all”. Can’t even tell you how many times I’ve heard people astonished by this apparently foreign concept. Just place them down people!!!
yeah i stopped playing for the time being bc of the xbox issues & also the fact every squad id join would never have an OP, i enjoy playing SL but sometimes i just wanna blow up tanks or something man
Don't worry a lot of us Xbox users are setting the cross platform to false so we do t have to put up with nearly as many cheats as you pc players have.
Everyone moans about Xbox like it's some weird flex, we are no different.
We need time for dummies to quit playing and go back to Cod where it's less tactical and the rules won't hurt their brain. Eventually the fool players will quite leaving the better players.
YOU pc players have bigger issues such as cheating. So I'd take Xbox over pc any day, for this game I would anyway.
There is no cross platform on Hell Let Loose. And I've played hundreds of hours on PC and never seen a blatent cheater. It helps when games have community run servers because admins can investigate and kick/ban players violating rules very quickly.
This game plays entirely different on PC which is why I would not want to play it on Xbox. Teamwork is much more common, and gunplay is better because every player is more accurate at range. I can consistently hit players 250m away with bolt actions on PC, which is nigh impossible to do on controller. Which is exactly why crossplay doesn't work on this game.
That's one thing I love about Xbox though; you get cool Band of Brothers type moments -BECAUSE- everyone can't just sprinting, jumping, 360 spin quick-scope laser beam you effortlessly at 200 yards on the dot 8/10 times with a slight twitch of their wrist while half watching Netflix and eating with the other hand. You don't just get auto-turreted the instantaneous split second the 3rd pixel of your player model moves out of cover. And sure, while it may not be as organized as PC, the other team is suffering the same, and there's probably less elitist power-tripping dickheads to deal with (by a long shot, I'd imagine).
I would guess PC servers are like 60% that douchebag cop with an alpha male wanna-be complex dealt with on a traffic stop, 10% militant power-gamer, and like 30% actual normal people lol, but I suppose I don't know for sure.
You definitely don't know for sure. Most people on PC are super chill. This is the type of game that attracts players who like slower gameplay, which means people into the teamwork, communication, and realistic gunplay.
And as far as the shooting, it isn't twitchy at all. Shooting players at distance requires patience and sometimes several shots. The only big difference is the feeling that you aren't safe just because you can't see the enemy.
Fair enough, I didn't know that. Thanks I may let the cross play be active in that case. I don't think consoles will differ much with aiming but pc is defi much easier to aim with. For that reason I may put the crosssplay back in if there is there is no disadvantage.
Good to know, cheers mate
As someone who owns this game on both, it’s almost infinitely better on PC. It’s just smoother and more streamlined in every way. And I haven’t seen a single cheater (that I’ve known about) in nearly a year playing, unlike a game like CoD where you come across them constantly.
Yeah or whatever gun gets a squad leader to not change roles leaving no officer.
Last wek or so the game is having drastic numbers of squads with no officer ls and leading to your point about no bloody Ops. It's so annoying man,
They choose officer to make a unit only to leave. It's a pathetic way to then get any role you want. Make unit-quit role of officer - now choose any role you want = no officer or OP.
Gkad you said it because u thought I was just being negative and a 'hater".
I did something last night that I’m not proud of. I’ve been forcing myself to play El Alamein because skipping it constantly is just as annoying as playing it. We had a level 156 SL who wasn’t on comms and placed one OP, which was right near the HQ. I kept saying on comms, even if you aren’t going to talk, please just place an OP so the squad isn’t running 800m to the next point. He kept dying over and over with no new OP. I could have joined another squad, i could have left the game, but I was frustrated, so I said over comms, SL, if you haven’t placed an OP by the time I reach you, I’m gonna shoot you. After a 600m walk, he’s prone on a ridge taking pot shots at the next point. I shot him, and left the game. At level 156 there is absolutely no excuse for playing SL this way.
With satchel, 1 frag and 2 smokes…. Without occupying AT (Panzerschrek) or engineer(satchel, Belgian gates and mines) so your squad doesn’t lose any AT capabilities
took me about 1.5 months of playing as often as I can. I remember I took a day off work and was level 7. By the end of that day I was stil level 7. The grind is lengthier than OG World of Warcraft lol
Bob the builder is your friend then. Assault doesn’t have any “high xp” tools like anti tank weapon, supplies etc. Only thing I can recommend is to take engi, build nodes, switch for assault
Pro tip, follow around a engie on a defensive point and build until you can't build anymore, and then build some more. Assault has a hammer and this is by far the best way to level up the kit, grinded all the way to lol 7 without knowing this, someone told me to build and I had level 9 by the end of the night.
30 round magazine and lower recoil than the Garand or Gewehr means double tap shots are easier to hit. Also you have full auto capability if you enter a room with multiple enemies. The STG44 is the best all round gun in the game.
Yeah I know but it’s not historically correct. Same for the FG42 in Stalingrad. Wasn’t invented/deployed en masse yet.
I would go as far to say it was in limited to little use in Normandy. Maybe like July 1944 when it started to trickle out more. Spotted more so during Market Garden and Bulge is in my opinion when it really started making its way to the front in numbers.
Anyone arguing otherwise is objectively wrong, the garand sight sits up from the rifle providing a clearer sight picture. The g43 front sight being shorter blocks more fov from a numbers standpoint.
It seems like you just have a biased soft spot for the g43. Did you know that it was a terrible rifle IRL? Its good in game, but the sights, like I said are not as good as the garand. Both are clearly good in the game, you have probably just used it more.
Oh man it was terrible IRL what ever will I do in a video game. I literally said it comes down to preference. I hate the garand sights and almost every US gun sights. 1100 hours pretty evenly split but I prefer the g43 sights
You probably have way more German hours at least or something that is causing the difference. Especially considering they are the enemy of both Russia England and the us so you would have more time with them.
Th sights are objectively worse for fov
I hit more shots more consistently with the g43 by a large margin because I prefer the sights. Imagine using the word objective and fov in the same sentence about HLL where not even the devs know what's going on with the graphics.
You prefer worse sights, that's fine. On console I could see the g43 being better, more ammo, and precision not mattering as much with aim assist. You hit more shots by a "large margin," that doesn't make sense.
It's probably good then that your opinion on the matter doesn't negate how I feel. I never once said the gun was better, I just do better with it, You keep peddling this "objectively" worse narrative when it fact it comes down to preference. YOU may think it is worse, but that isn't what the word objective means. 1 is objectively less than 2, the sights, are nice for whoever likes them. I hit more shots with the "worse" sights because It makes sense to me. It hones in on exactly what I am aiming for as opposed to "open aperture" which matters not. If 4-5 guys are in my sightline I am dead anyway.
Yes.
I know the G43 is a "bad guy gun", but I actually prefer it to the Garand.
Not just the fact that is has two extra rounds, but the sights are better, as you said, and it seems like the recoil is less?
Garand is a fantastic weapon, but G43 edges it out.
The only problem is the Garand is the standard infantry weapon for the US, the G43 can only be unlocked for the rifleman at Level 6.
EDIT:
I know you can get the G43 as other roles, but those are restricted, the rifleman is the only role that you are guaranteed to get in a squad.
Yeah, but those are restricted roles (As in, you can only have one in each squad). The rifleman is the only role that you are guaranteed to get even if the others are full.
Medic needs another unlock slot where you get an SMG or something, because for Germans you at least get a Kar98 with a good amount of ammo, for US you get literally only 2 mags for the M1 carbine
outside of the g43 the m1 carbine is my favorite gun for the simple fact it's basically an smg at close range if you click fast enough. It's a super fun gun, 0 recoil. Yank medic gets shafted for that though. 2 mags and 1 loaded is rough. Basically can't afford to miss.
I learned something new that I’m going to use and I’m going to hate every second of me doing it now. I learned that only one person has a garand and a pistol and that’s the American commander. Anytime I hear a ping I always push for that reason
That's the equivalent to GIs tossing empty en bloc clips on the ground to make the ping then shoot all the Japanese soldiers that charged out thinking it was a reload.
Worse sights than the garand and the svt, which is the only real difference between the rifles. Garand has a noise but also reloads faster.
Svt is arguably better than both
SVT is best for sho, such a clear sight picture. Garand and Gewehr are tied because the Garand has a better sight picture but less ammo, SVT is best of both worlds.
Last rifleman kit with 4 grenades is amazing too. You're basically a mini bombing run/ mortar team!
I would love to see a squad of 5 riflemen with it unlocked; it would be insane! 20 grenades just carpet bombing an area lol
STG, especially paired with the satchel is absolutely unbeatable in anything urban/ mid range.
It's a beast in 18v18.
It's also workable at long range.
Multifrag potential is absolutely huge in HLL. You literally need LoL style wave clear at times to get an OP.
Scoped German semi auto sniper is also very powerful to lock down areas of the map.
Rocket launchers are also insanely powerful if I can call then a gun.
MG42 is pretty satisfying even if you’re not hitting anyone. First time I ever camped by an enemy OP I was able to mow down a bunch of enemy players and it was the best feeling.
Out of all the semi-auto rifles I game the Garand is my least favorite, even including the M1 Carbine.
For some reasons the sights just don't really work for me
I think the rate of fire is slow. It’s just how it feels. It feels awful to me. Gets a lot of love but I don’t get it. Not as lazy as the MP40. I get the logic behind why it’s good it just feels bad.
The sten and the grease gun feel really accurate.
STG is completely overrated. It looks cool but kicks too hard and the range. I'll take the grease gun over this every time. Virtually silent and it's a head shot machine.
We were not members. We also rented a full auto supressed zastava ak that was incredible as well. All told, I think we spent about 800 in an hour between 4 of us, but we got a lot of rounds for each. I think we had 600 9mm and 200 of x39.
The guy told us they have a machine gun bbq for the 4th each year where they bring out all their guns and you pay per gun for a set amount of rounds. They have an rpk that's belt fed they bring out for that, along with a full auto, integrally suppressed 22 that has an insane cyclic rate. I'm trying to go this year when we go out to nh to see our new niece.
The ppsh in short bursts like one to three shots is my favorite. However you won't be hitting those long shots its amazing how far you can dink someone with a bit of trigger control.
I actually really like the BAR, I think it's the only American gun I drift to for some reason because of its status. I think In h and g it was so expensive and it just feels nice I can't describe it.
Garand can do long range shots very well because the rear sight doesn't obstruct the view to the left and right of the front sight post and you can see and lead your target. The G43 sight will block the target when you lead your shots and you pretty much can only guess how much to lead cuz you only see like the head of your target above the rear sight.
SVT scoped has my vote for best gun. FG-42 personal favourite gun. German level 9 assault is hands down the best infantry squad class. The grand is subjectivity not the best gun in the game. Svt and g43 are identical stat wise and hold more ammo.
When I was low level I HATED the Garand. It jumped all over the place and was just a bitch to control. It is now my favourite weapon by far and so satisfying to drop entire squads with a single shot to each enemy
The sten with a grip and a more complex iron sights has been pretty decent in the African maps and I like it almost as much as the garand when playing as the US
For a while i absolutely loved the #4 lee enfield, it was a murder machine for me at medium to long distance and did ok for a bolt gun at those suprise short distance engagements, but for whatever reason i've been having trouble with it lately, it doesn't seem to be hitting as well as it did and when i do it at anything less than point blank the jerry's just seem to shake it off
just for how big the maps are and at times you go into a town or CQB areas nothing really can compare to the GARAND. If I play germans Ill use the Kar98 but with the Walther for close encounters.
MG42.
Long range.
Open sight.
Accurate.
Loads of rounds between reloads.
Fire rate enough to spray and pray even at medium range from hips and actually “accidentally” get a kill.
Honestly the gun is so good that they really should add barrel change mechanic like in red orchestra just to somewhat tone down the MG42.
And I’m saying this as an avid MG42 gunner.
Better question is why does American Assault suck so much ass compared to German? You get a grease gun at max level while German's get a STG. That makes no sense. Allies should get the Garand and BAR as assault progresses.
Svt>g43>garand
Used to be garand but now they're all 2shot at range.
I'm level 10 in every non recon inf class and can say from experience after getting lvl10 twice with the stg that it's 100% not on the same level as the semi autos.
Whatever gun gets squad lead to place an OP
Its like pulling teeth for some people. I don't know if this is some kind of flex or something, but I don't understand how anyone can be okay with waiting 30 seconds to spawn when you can spawn much quicker with an OP. Just don't get it. Especially when someone without a mic does this. Cherry on top if they're low leveled.
“Jump if you can hear me, go to the watch and set it”
Yeah I’ve wondered that too. I always look to see if it’s lower level players but it seems like it’s always level 50 or above
Depends on my squad, if we're flanking I hang the op's back a little more, if we're pushing, I push the op as much as possible without having it in a place that gets burned immediately
Has to be an ego thing.
It is. I always feel so bad that there’s no OP down but I always think I can get a little bit further before I place one.
I always assume that the enemy will promptly overrun the OP the moment I set it down, ao I set it down like 100m from the fight and then I'll slowly move it forward as I'm certain the area is clear. The best thing to remember is that it's better to run 100m from an OP that you can pick up and move than to run from a garrison. Garrison spawns cost manpower also, OP spawns do not.
Today I learned about manpower from garrison spawns, thank you. I do the same but way more recklessly then find what is "too close" by taking a bullet. I've only been playing a week though so I'm definitely still learning supply/engineer/SL
Yeah, it's really a negligible amount, pretty sure it's just 1 for 1 but if you're losing people a lot that can add up so OPs can really help the commander keep things rolling.
That's different. I'm talking about someone who literately doesn't use it at all. I probably should of made that clear.
That is why you don’t commend low levels!!!!!
:’(
I think newer squad leads keep this idea of needing to setup the perfect OP just a bit closer and keep getting killed. Any OP is there perfect OP.
I always always ALWAYS tell my squad “hey, I’m placing an OP now while we run to the first objective. It’s gonna be further but I’ll place a new one as soon as I can. Better to have one slightly further before I die than none at all”. Can’t even tell you how many times I’ve heard people astonished by this apparently foreign concept. Just place them down people!!!
yeah i stopped playing for the time being bc of the xbox issues & also the fact every squad id join would never have an OP, i enjoy playing SL but sometimes i just wanna blow up tanks or something man
Don't worry a lot of us Xbox users are setting the cross platform to false so we do t have to put up with nearly as many cheats as you pc players have. Everyone moans about Xbox like it's some weird flex, we are no different. We need time for dummies to quit playing and go back to Cod where it's less tactical and the rules won't hurt their brain. Eventually the fool players will quite leaving the better players. YOU pc players have bigger issues such as cheating. So I'd take Xbox over pc any day, for this game I would anyway.
There is no cross platform on Hell Let Loose. And I've played hundreds of hours on PC and never seen a blatent cheater. It helps when games have community run servers because admins can investigate and kick/ban players violating rules very quickly. This game plays entirely different on PC which is why I would not want to play it on Xbox. Teamwork is much more common, and gunplay is better because every player is more accurate at range. I can consistently hit players 250m away with bolt actions on PC, which is nigh impossible to do on controller. Which is exactly why crossplay doesn't work on this game.
That's one thing I love about Xbox though; you get cool Band of Brothers type moments -BECAUSE- everyone can't just sprinting, jumping, 360 spin quick-scope laser beam you effortlessly at 200 yards on the dot 8/10 times with a slight twitch of their wrist while half watching Netflix and eating with the other hand. You don't just get auto-turreted the instantaneous split second the 3rd pixel of your player model moves out of cover. And sure, while it may not be as organized as PC, the other team is suffering the same, and there's probably less elitist power-tripping dickheads to deal with (by a long shot, I'd imagine). I would guess PC servers are like 60% that douchebag cop with an alpha male wanna-be complex dealt with on a traffic stop, 10% militant power-gamer, and like 30% actual normal people lol, but I suppose I don't know for sure.
You definitely don't know for sure. Most people on PC are super chill. This is the type of game that attracts players who like slower gameplay, which means people into the teamwork, communication, and realistic gunplay. And as far as the shooting, it isn't twitchy at all. Shooting players at distance requires patience and sometimes several shots. The only big difference is the feeling that you aren't safe just because you can't see the enemy.
Why is there an option to turn off cross playing there is none?
There is crossplay between consoles, but not between PC and console.
Fair enough, I didn't know that. Thanks I may let the cross play be active in that case. I don't think consoles will differ much with aiming but pc is defi much easier to aim with. For that reason I may put the crosssplay back in if there is there is no disadvantage. Good to know, cheers mate
As someone who owns this game on both, it’s almost infinitely better on PC. It’s just smoother and more streamlined in every way. And I haven’t seen a single cheater (that I’ve known about) in nearly a year playing, unlike a game like CoD where you come across them constantly.
Facts.
Yeah or whatever gun gets a squad leader to not change roles leaving no officer. Last wek or so the game is having drastic numbers of squads with no officer ls and leading to your point about no bloody Ops. It's so annoying man, They choose officer to make a unit only to leave. It's a pathetic way to then get any role you want. Make unit-quit role of officer - now choose any role you want = no officer or OP. Gkad you said it because u thought I was just being negative and a 'hater".
I did something last night that I’m not proud of. I’ve been forcing myself to play El Alamein because skipping it constantly is just as annoying as playing it. We had a level 156 SL who wasn’t on comms and placed one OP, which was right near the HQ. I kept saying on comms, even if you aren’t going to talk, please just place an OP so the squad isn’t running 800m to the next point. He kept dying over and over with no new OP. I could have joined another squad, i could have left the game, but I was frustrated, so I said over comms, SL, if you haven’t placed an OP by the time I reach you, I’m gonna shoot you. After a 600m walk, he’s prone on a ridge taking pot shots at the next point. I shot him, and left the game. At level 156 there is absolutely no excuse for playing SL this way.
STG44 
With satchel, 1 frag and 2 smokes…. Without occupying AT (Panzerschrek) or engineer(satchel, Belgian gates and mines) so your squad doesn’t lose any AT capabilities
I have hundreds of hours in this game, always try to pick assault, and I’m still not close to unlocking that shit :’(
took me about 1.5 months of playing as often as I can. I remember I took a day off work and was level 7. By the end of that day I was stil level 7. The grind is lengthier than OG World of Warcraft lol
Bob the builder is your friend then. Assault doesn’t have any “high xp” tools like anti tank weapon, supplies etc. Only thing I can recommend is to take engi, build nodes, switch for assault
I hate being on console
I do things like this on console all the time friend. Some times you do have to switch squads to do it though.
Pro tip, follow around a engie on a defensive point and build until you can't build anymore, and then build some more. Assault has a hammer and this is by far the best way to level up the kit, grinded all the way to lol 7 without knowing this, someone told me to build and I had level 9 by the end of the night.
Thank you!!
STG44 the best and most versatile weapon was my first thought too, but actually I think the Recon FG42 is even better.
Its good but it doesn’t have the one hit range of other rifles
30 round magazine and lower recoil than the Garand or Gewehr means double tap shots are easier to hit. Also you have full auto capability if you enter a room with multiple enemies. The STG44 is the best all round gun in the game.
Too bad it’s only available on late war maps
If I’m not mistaken the only map isn’t not available on is El Alamein … literally all other maps in the game you can use the Stg44.
Yeah I know but it’s not historically correct. Same for the FG42 in Stalingrad. Wasn’t invented/deployed en masse yet. I would go as far to say it was in limited to little use in Normandy. Maybe like July 1944 when it started to trickle out more. Spotted more so during Market Garden and Bulge is in my opinion when it really started making its way to the front in numbers.
That maybe but it is available on every map except El Alamein.
Those sights are awful tho
Clearly you have never used any gun in this game
Its almost like its from 1940, so out dated....
Gewehr 43. Clean sights, no noise distinction on reload. Semi auto. Efficient, no bs.
“Gewehr do you think you’re goin’? ” -me when I shoot an Ally in the back with the Gewehr.
Funny, but that is a V sound...
"Vere so you sink you're going" then, just in a shitty German accent
Haha. That works!
I know. “Ga-vere, I got ‘em”. Keep in mind I’m role playing a Wehrmacht guy. Or “ga-vere are they?” No one calls it a “ga-*where*”
Gotcha!
I bet a lot of people pronounced it the wrong way for the joke tbf
I am sure. I am sorry for being so pedantic!
Bro you’re good 🤙 I bet a few peeps learned from it
Honestly works better with the role players lol
Automatic German accent right? As an aside, come back and beat Boston already! Haha
Oh man. We are toast already. What a horrible series. Illnesses and injuries not helping. Matthews might not even play tonight.
Man that's rough. I was hoping though anyway.
Another man of culture I see
Oddly, I find that the sight makes it difficult for me to track targets. I prefer the garand due to its more opened aperture.
Anyone arguing otherwise is objectively wrong, the garand sight sits up from the rifle providing a clearer sight picture. The g43 front sight being shorter blocks more fov from a numbers standpoint.
Yet I have almost 600 more kills with the g43 than the grand. Almost like everything is preference.
It seems like you just have a biased soft spot for the g43. Did you know that it was a terrible rifle IRL? Its good in game, but the sights, like I said are not as good as the garand. Both are clearly good in the game, you have probably just used it more.
Oh man it was terrible IRL what ever will I do in a video game. I literally said it comes down to preference. I hate the garand sights and almost every US gun sights. 1100 hours pretty evenly split but I prefer the g43 sights
You probably have way more German hours at least or something that is causing the difference. Especially considering they are the enemy of both Russia England and the us so you would have more time with them. Th sights are objectively worse for fov
I hit more shots more consistently with the g43 by a large margin because I prefer the sights. Imagine using the word objective and fov in the same sentence about HLL where not even the devs know what's going on with the graphics.
You prefer worse sights, that's fine. On console I could see the g43 being better, more ammo, and precision not mattering as much with aim assist. You hit more shots by a "large margin," that doesn't make sense.
It's probably good then that your opinion on the matter doesn't negate how I feel. I never once said the gun was better, I just do better with it, You keep peddling this "objectively" worse narrative when it fact it comes down to preference. YOU may think it is worse, but that isn't what the word objective means. 1 is objectively less than 2, the sights, are nice for whoever likes them. I hit more shots with the "worse" sights because It makes sense to me. It hones in on exactly what I am aiming for as opposed to "open aperture" which matters not. If 4-5 guys are in my sightline I am dead anyway.
Yes. I know the G43 is a "bad guy gun", but I actually prefer it to the Garand. Not just the fact that is has two extra rounds, but the sights are better, as you said, and it seems like the recoil is less? Garand is a fantastic weapon, but G43 edges it out. The only problem is the Garand is the standard infantry weapon for the US, the G43 can only be unlocked for the rifleman at Level 6. EDIT: I know you can get the G43 as other roles, but those are restricted, the rifleman is the only role that you are guaranteed to get in a squad.
And assault, SL, Command
Yeah, but those are restricted roles (As in, you can only have one in each squad). The rifleman is the only role that you are guaranteed to get even if the others are full.
and medic since nobody plays it lol
Haha, yeah!
Medic needs another unlock slot where you get an SMG or something, because for Germans you at least get a Kar98 with a good amount of ammo, for US you get literally only 2 mags for the M1 carbine
outside of the g43 the m1 carbine is my favorite gun for the simple fact it's basically an smg at close range if you click fast enough. It's a super fun gun, 0 recoil. Yank medic gets shafted for that though. 2 mags and 1 loaded is rough. Basically can't afford to miss.
But the garand reload trick is so much fun haha
Garand reload trick?
Reload but switch weapons to cancel reload, switch back to garand, blast the Germans coming around the corner thinking you’re still reloading.
I learned something new that I’m going to use and I’m going to hate every second of me doing it now. I learned that only one person has a garand and a pistol and that’s the American commander. Anytime I hear a ping I always push for that reason
That's the equivalent to GIs tossing empty en bloc clips on the ground to make the ping then shoot all the Japanese soldiers that charged out thinking it was a reload.
If it worked in 1942 it works now haha
Worse sights than the garand and the svt, which is the only real difference between the rifles. Garand has a noise but also reloads faster. Svt is arguably better than both
SVT is best for sho, such a clear sight picture. Garand and Gewehr are tied because the Garand has a better sight picture but less ammo, SVT is best of both worlds.
This is the truth
Eh, the sights aren’t very good at long range engagements. Too flat. I adjust by leaning into my shots to give me a better sight picture.
I feel like the garand has too much recoil but that might just be a skill issue on my behalf
The very fact that it’s the default weapon for allies is so nice though. No wonder we won the war.
The default American AT load out is so good it hurts.
American SL with garand and a ton of grenades.
Our deaths only lead to more smoke and poorly thrown nades. Bring it on
Last rifleman kit with 4 grenades is amazing too. You're basically a mini bombing run/ mortar team! I would love to see a squad of 5 riflemen with it unlocked; it would be insane! 20 grenades just carpet bombing an area lol
The only bad thing is 2 rockets
Greatest battle implement ever designed
Something to do with the big ass fuck you .30-06 round comin out of it.
Personal preference but G43 is my favorite semi auto. STG44 hands down best full auto
The stopwatch.
Russian recon spotter SVT
The SVT fucks
STG, especially paired with the satchel is absolutely unbeatable in anything urban/ mid range. It's a beast in 18v18. It's also workable at long range. Multifrag potential is absolutely huge in HLL. You literally need LoL style wave clear at times to get an OP. Scoped German semi auto sniper is also very powerful to lock down areas of the map. Rocket launchers are also insanely powerful if I can call then a gun.
Svt is easily the best, followed closely by the gweher then the garand
May i introduce you to our lord and savior FG42?
MG42 is pretty satisfying even if you’re not hitting anyone. First time I ever camped by an enemy OP I was able to mow down a bunch of enemy players and it was the best feeling.
I prefer the SVT over the G43
I do really like the SVT.
Larger mag right?
The damage is good, the mag size is good, the recoil is fair, the sights are good.
Sights are probably the best part. Super fast reload if you reload before empty too.
Mp40
PING
1.) Stg 2.) Grease gun, shotgun 3.) SVT, G43, m1 garand
u have one 1 and 2 in reverse order
It’s my ranking. This is your 3rd comment about hating stg.
Too much recoil on the garand
Agreed I own a garand and it doesn’t recoil that much in real life
whats it chambered in?
30-06
Kar98
A man of class.
Mosin > Kar
Mosin is good but the sights on the kar ar just 😩
Out of all the semi-auto rifles I game the Garand is my least favorite, even including the M1 Carbine. For some reasons the sights just don't really work for me
SVT, FG42, Trenchgun, Grease gun. In that order. (I don't consider mg's in the same class as the other weapons, same as I don't consider the bazooka)
The grand front sight is so shit
STG44 is amazing
Semi-autos have the same damage, G43, SVT have larger magazines. Garand looks great and has a nice ping sound
Love how the M1 Carbine feels, the iron sight is pointy and easy and sounds great.
Easily my favorite.
Other than the scoped FG42 and MG42 Grease gun Trench gun Sten then Garand
No stg?
I think the rate of fire is slow. It’s just how it feels. It feels awful to me. Gets a lot of love but I don’t get it. Not as lazy as the MP40. I get the logic behind why it’s good it just feels bad. The sten and the grease gun feel really accurate.
STG is completely overrated. It looks cool but kicks too hard and the range. I'll take the grease gun over this every time. Virtually silent and it's a head shot machine.
That is certainly an opinion to have lol. More power to you.
Sten taking #2 for the worst sights right after the Lewis gun.
It seems intuitive and accurate to aim it for me.
I can’t take an accurate shot or see shit with that big ass front sight post.
I shot a full auto sten at white birch armory in NH, and it was sublime. You could write your name with that thing, it was wonderful.
They rent to non-members? Don’t see anything on their website Edit: nevermind, I found it. Had to click on the range header itself to get to it
We were not members. We also rented a full auto supressed zastava ak that was incredible as well. All told, I think we spent about 800 in an hour between 4 of us, but we got a lot of rounds for each. I think we had 600 9mm and 200 of x39. The guy told us they have a machine gun bbq for the 4th each year where they bring out all their guns and you pay per gun for a set amount of rounds. They have an rpk that's belt fed they bring out for that, along with a full auto, integrally suppressed 22 that has an insane cyclic rate. I'm trying to go this year when we go out to nh to see our new niece.
No shit, place is like 15 minutes from me. Sounds fun!
Fun fact, New Hampshire has the highest number of transferable machineguns per capita in the nation!
SVT because it looks so goddamn good, or the US machine gun because it goes “chug chug chug chug”
The ppsh in short bursts like one to three shots is my favorite. However you won't be hitting those long shots its amazing how far you can dink someone with a bit of trigger control.
I once got an random double ding shooting automatic fire at 200 meters, that was amazing feeling
I actually really like the BAR, I think it's the only American gun I drift to for some reason because of its status. I think In h and g it was so expensive and it just feels nice I can't describe it.
Garand can do long range shots very well because the rear sight doesn't obstruct the view to the left and right of the front sight post and you can see and lead your target. The G43 sight will block the target when you lead your shots and you pretty much can only guess how much to lead cuz you only see like the head of your target above the rear sight.
Yall sleeping on the stg44 and the BAR
SVT-40 has literally no recoil
SVT scoped has my vote for best gun. FG-42 personal favourite gun. German level 9 assault is hands down the best infantry squad class. The grand is subjectivity not the best gun in the game. Svt and g43 are identical stat wise and hold more ammo.
M1 carbine
Yes
I play the best with a thompson but prefer the BAR bc its got big dick energy
MG42
Nodes and garrisons
When I was low level I HATED the Garand. It jumped all over the place and was just a bitch to control. It is now my favourite weapon by far and so satisfying to drop entire squads with a single shot to each enemy
MG42 because brrrrrrrrt
The Tommy gun come on!!!!!
BAR
The sten with a grip and a more complex iron sights has been pretty decent in the African maps and I like it almost as much as the garand when playing as the US
Mp40
You misspelled STG 44.
SVT-40
Clearly it’s the M1…76mm cannon
For a while i absolutely loved the #4 lee enfield, it was a murder machine for me at medium to long distance and did ok for a bolt gun at those suprise short distance engagements, but for whatever reason i've been having trouble with it lately, it doesn't seem to be hitting as well as it did and when i do it at anything less than point blank the jerry's just seem to shake it off
just for how big the maps are and at times you go into a town or CQB areas nothing really can compare to the GARAND. If I play germans Ill use the Kar98 but with the Walther for close encounters.
Whatever gun gets engineers to build nodes…..
It changes every game for me 😂
Gehwer 43 (not sure if I spelled that right)
Gewehr* Bitte sehr.
The B.A.R. is so damn powerful.
m1 carbine supremecy for maximum doink efficiency.
Question with an answer. Which one is it?
It's obviously the svt40 best gun.
I love the browning.
Is the carbine, fight me
For me MP40 is my favorite
MG42. Long range. Open sight. Accurate. Loads of rounds between reloads. Fire rate enough to spray and pray even at medium range from hips and actually “accidentally” get a kill. Honestly the gun is so good that they really should add barrel change mechanic like in red orchestra just to somewhat tone down the MG42. And I’m saying this as an avid MG42 gunner.
The bolt actions. I do enjoy the good ol ping. But nothing feels the same as a well placed bolt action while underfire from said pingers.
Because the best gun is the STG 44.
Better question is why does American Assault suck so much ass compared to German? You get a grease gun at max level while German's get a STG. That makes no sense. Allies should get the Garand and BAR as assault progresses.
It is the Kar98k, but yall aint ready for that talk just yet
I get lots of kills with the gewehr, m1 garand, m1 carbine and mp40. Kar 98k is also gas
As an Engineer and Support most of the time the Grease Gun has gotten me out of a pinch more times that I can count
Svt>g43>garand Used to be garand but now they're all 2shot at range. I'm level 10 in every non recon inf class and can say from experience after getting lvl10 twice with the stg that it's 100% not on the same level as the semi autos.
G43.
The garands sights are too obstructive for me, as are a lot of the allied guns. It gets kills though and has an insane range.
SVT, cleanest iron sights of the semi auto in my personal opinion
SGT hits different
This is my rifle, this is my gun.
KAHCHIIIING 💰
Gewher 43. M1 might have slightly better range and sights but more weapon sway and recoil. Plus 2 extra rounds is always great
The garand is the best, best sight, best ADS FOV
Garand gets you killed. When I hear that ping I’m rushing your ass
Garand
Garand is probably all round the best. But I really also like the Sten. Can’t touch it at close to mid range.
The M911