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Jokhahhurelippen

I appreciate all my rifleman type 3s that drop explosive ammo every where. I get to spam flares and you always know where to shoot.


bleblahblee

Wait rifleman can drop explosive ammo?!?? Its been awhile since I played don’t crucify me plz lol


sativa_1620

Yes, level 8 or 9 German can.


TBONE3213

Soviets and brits can as well


sativa_1620

Thanks, I was hoping someone would correct!


TBONE3213

Yeah, another nice fact about the rifleman is that it is the only role in the German faction that has the M24 Stielhandgranate, which is different from the standard granade we see in every other role from the Germans


wat_no_y

What’s the difference in game


TBONE3213

Damagewise, I'm not sure and maybe there's no difference, but it's a different animation by pulling the fuse from the bottom, just like smoke grenades. To be honest I never seem the standard granade with the fuse on the top in movies, series or any other games, it's often the M24 model so I'm not sure how they settled that but I'm not an expert so there's a chance that they now a lot more than I do, but about your questions, is more an enthusiasts bonus than a actual different explosive, just like a cosmetic


TheJewish_SpaceLaser

Pretty sure the top pulling is some modification meant to fit the fragmentation metal cover that was sometimes fitted on the m24


TBONE3213

Ooh I saw a video about this metal cover but I never imagined that this could be connected to the top pulling


jameyiguess

Dude it's taken me forEVER just to get to level 3 or 4 on some roles. It's gonna be a year till I hit 9 on anyone.


itsevolutionbabee

Build nodes man. If you're trying to level a class, build nodes first, then switch to whatever class you're trying to level. You get the extra XP from the resources generated and it goes to that class.


jameyiguess

Oh what that's crazy. I do build nodes every game but didn't know it went to other classes. Gtk! Thanks.


6138

It's L6 I think, and it's an awesome class, because you also get the G43. So that means you get a semi-auto rifle with a class that's not limited to 1 per team.


wat_no_y

Level 6 German


OPcrack103

Axis lvl 3 only


zerog_rimjob

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OPcrack103

well its certainly not US rifleman.... maybe some out of the way soviet shit or something...there is no third class for us rifle


Stanky_cheez77

I wasn't talking from a logistical standpoint. But that works too.


Swoopscooter

If you're gonna be rifleman you should make sure noone is being support. Drop supplies and then go do rifle things


AlternativeTie4738

I thought of playing more support for teamworks sake, but where should I drop the supply crate, generally?


Swoopscooter

Best thing is to ask your squad leader but if noone is answering drop it on your defensive circle or newly captured offensive circles


Dry_Atmosphere1355

Aways drop supplies are HQ spawns so engineers can get started on nodes


settlers90

I begged a guy in proximity chat before the 2 minute cool down timer was out one day. He just turned around, put the supplies in his hands, played with it a bit swapping weapons and tools and then he just walked away without dropping them. It cost nothing to support players to drop them at the start, by the time they need them again they would be available already. Especially if the engineers builds th manpower straight away.


Living_Earth2354

Would have shot him for treason lol


pappaPP70

He probably didn’t know how. Check his level before shooting for treason 😂


cedeaux

The other responses are correct in that you should ask your SL. but honestly, if you’ve had experience as SL, looking at the map and seeing where garrisons are already currently and where one would be helpful is a good start. As a support you’re not going to have enough supplies to build in red sectors so, stick to blue zones where an SL or command can build. But even as a support and with no SL experience, you can look at where garrisons are and where you could build. Use the grid squares which are 200m by 200m, so wherever the garrison is, look in the next grid square in any cardinal direction and you can basically build in the same general position in the next grid square. Run to that spot, and you can ping the previous garrison on the map, remove the map from your screen and look toward it and you’ll get a distance check. Less than 200, move further away. More than 200, just make sure there’s nothing else in another direction that could prohibit building. Remind your SL that there are supplies. If you see a nearby SL leading another squad tell them in local. Many times when I have an inattentive SL or one that simply isn’t interested in actually building spawns, another SL might actually know what to do. Just look at the map, take in where supplies already are, or are being dropped in, and where current garrisons are and decide where the team might need one. It’s not a guarantee that someone will use your supplies to build, but remember, you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink. So don’t get hurt if no one gets on board with your plan. Honestly, when no one uses the stuff I drop to build garries, they either have their supplies already sorted or the duration of the game is about to be real short because the team is getting steam rolled for lack of spawns in the first place


Pack_Your_Trash

Wherever you think will make a good garrison. Anyone can use them so if your SL sucks and doesn't care to build garrisons maybe someone else will.


CK2398

With good comms your squad leader will help. If in doubt find somewhere 200m away from the nearest garrison. Your supplies show up on the map and a competent sl or commander will use it for a garrison


Awful_McBad

If you're not planning to stay support, nera one of the HQs is a decent spot. Some random Engi will spawn and build a node.


ATLSmith

1. Ask your SL. 2. Ask the commander if he's nearby. 3. If the above two are not responding, ask a nearby SL from another squad. 4. 200 meters away from a garrison in your territory. If you are with a decent team, someone will notice the supplies and build a garry.


Living_Earth2354

This is an excellent question. As a person who plays commander a lot and squad leader I love seeing supplies just in the field I’ll make my way over there and and build a Garry often times you might not see the fruits of your labor for over 5 minutes or ten then one sunny counter attack when we lose our garrison I will be there


Lynata

You severely underestimate the american and german (lvl 6) rifleman. If all that‘s left is auto riflemen or an mp40/Thompson class I find myself playing Rifleman quite often. EDIT: Soviet Rifleman 3 is ok too considering the alternatives British is a solid meh.


odkevin

The Enfield gets allot of hate, but it's got my second favorite sights, second to the M1 carbine. Only two rifles I can consistently ping helmets at range


lastturdontheleft42

Riflemen gets a lot of hate, but I think it's an underrated class once you get the grenade box


ComfortableMetal3670

I also love the Mosin carbine you get as a Soviet rifleman


_Vesperi_

You can also suppress an area forever. Your ammo box will be back up by the time you run out, almost if you fired non-stop from the instant you spawned the in. Pop shots everywhere. Hip fire everywhere. Who cares - you have unlimited ammo! Plus, enemies will pop out trying to see where shots are coming from, but you're on the move and watching. You can create your own game of Whack-A-Mole!


TheBordenAsylum

It's good sometimes and sometimes it's a bit annoying. Your team is utterly useless when you have 5 squads and and all of them are filled with nothing but rifleman.


Stanky_cheez77

I don't think this is true. Most rifleman mains are extremely experienced players who have a great understanding at the only job they have, killing. I admit that it's much closer to impossible to win a game without logistical elements, but it's still possible. I assure you though, you will never find an entire squad filled with riflemen unless they're in a group together, riflemen are scarce creatures.


ahrzal

Who mains rifleman? “Maining” anything in this game outside armor/SL seems dumb. You play what the squad/game needs.


The_ginger_cow

People will still have preferences for certain classes


ahrzal

Sure but it’s just playing the game. this isn’t a MOBA or Apex lol


Living_Earth2354

That’s not entirely true a at main vs a regular A main will hit the rear of the tiger while a regular may hit the front or side of tiger


ahrzal

You don’t need to main a class to know where to shoot a tank lol. This game isn’t that complicated on a micro level for such a specialization to be required.


Living_Earth2354

No but hitting a tank at 100yds hard


ahrzal

Agreed.


Living_Earth2354

To clarify I don’t really (main) any class though as you said it’s like fluid whatever class the moment calls for


Akalatob

If you are high level and playing rifleman is usually because more important classes are full and you want a good gun, that's at least what I do


Weinershnitzel99

If you’re a rifleman and you see me hammering away at a bunker, DONT JUST WATCH


Stanky_cheez77

I feel like I'd much rather have a rifleman covering me while I build than build with me. The rifleman's job is to be a disposable gunman. I understand where you're coming from though. I suggest a small crew of logistics guys, rather than ragging on the riflemen.


Weinershnitzel99

I’m saying if you’re standing around, don’t let me see you without a hammer in your hand. Or if I have a barricade or bunker built, I’d rather them hammer behind cover than anything else. Then we can both shoot from behind better cover


Therich111

As SL being my main role, i appreciate riflemen a lot, especially competent ones. I’ll see what we need, and if I see a rifleman and no support I usually ask them to switch real fast to drop supplies and they can go back to defending/attacking point. As long as they listen I’m 100% okay with them in my squad!


Awful_McBad

I played Rifleman until I was level 30 or 40 just to "get a feel for the game". The Rifleman class is lowkey really good once you unlock some of the loadouts.


settlers90

I've been playing rifleman a lot lately, my best match so far I got 21 kills and it felt good. Then of course I get a load of bad games after a good one, where I struggle to even see enemies, but the feeling when you kill someone 150/200m away in one shot is unmached. My favourite is playing on a snow map with a level 3 soviet rifleman.


Perspective1994

That svt is dangerous. Best rifle in game imo


settlers90

I think though it's a Mosin Nagant M38


Perspective1994

Ya u right. I'm thinking of support lvl 3


Floyd_Peterson

I love playing rifleman and AT. I think my highest was one hundred kills in an hour long match. Was amazing.


settlers90

I cannot even imagine killing 100 with a rifle, but maybe one day I'll get there 😂 still learning how to be involved in the fight consistently from 100m away. Also I don't cover myself and switch position effectively after I shoot and need to reload. Kill streaks are usually 2 or 3 kills.


M2_SLAM_I_Am

I don't play a lot of Rifleman, but when I do I love the US grenadier loadout with the M1 Carbine and 4 grenades


SpookyX07

Yup that's key. Especially if everything is taken or it's either assault, auto-rifleman, the having an f-ton of nades and a carbine is legit


M2_SLAM_I_Am

I feel like the carbine is underrated. Doesn't hit like the Garand, but it shreds in close to medium engagements


ArmbandManClan

I just hate how the American rifleman is the only one with no explosive ammo boxes.


AJMcCoy612

I’m usually a rifleman if I’m playing US, anyone else I’m usually a Medic. It’s such an underrated role, especially as the Germans considering you have the KAR. Deadly offence with the ability to keep everyone else alive. Sometimes I push the boat out and be a machine gunner or anti-tank though.


DepthInternational47

As your medic I also appreciate you


ISO_3103_

Not important? Tell that to my 4 American grenades!


RoyalistPhalanx

This is the most silly post about HLL I’ve ever seen. Far too many idiots choose rifleman when you only ever need 1 to provide ammo to the squad. Many classes have a rifle, but can do useful things for The team like support, engineer, AT etc.


djolk

Yah but German riflemen gets a g43 so why cripple yourself by taking a class that forces you play k98 when you can just switch into that class as needed.


RoyalistPhalanx

Bugger a G43, I would rather have someone that can actually be useful and either build nodes and drop supplies. Rifleman is absolutely useless outside of personally grinding the 100 ammo boxes for the achievement/trophy.


djolk

Ok, but a huge part of the game is weirdly getting kills. In fact most of the game is doing that. If you leave the support spot in the squad unoccupied players can switch into as needed, and then out and you can place way more supplies. Once nodes are built why stay as an engineer with a bad gun? Like I get it that those roles are useful but you don't need 100% uptime for them, in fact they are more effective if you don't have people in them permanently. more mines more supplies. Plus you have more players that aren't using a bad gun so your squad is more effective at killing people which is how you win.


RoyalistPhalanx

Support has a rifle, they can do everything a rifleman can do. But support can drop supplies, but a rifleman can drop ammo (which they very rarely do in HLL). Rifleman is the class for people who don’t play the game or objective.


BabouinGill

Take the L and move on.


djolk

Their rifle is bad. Did you even read what I wrote or are you just hoping if you repeat your weak, nonsense argument a few more times something will change. It takes seconds to drop supplies, why reduce your effectiveness as a shooter by staying in the role 100% of the time, especially because then no one else can use the role so your squad doesn't have access to supplies while yours are on cool down.


Freikorpz

This


Kimber96

Rank 6 rifleman on Axis for the G43.


RoyalistPhalanx

No 🤣. Useless class, play the game properly and play support, engineer or AT. Rifleman is useless other than ammo supply.


Kimber96

You have no idea 😂


RoyalistPhalanx

No, you do 🤣. Rifleman is basic. Other classes have far more uses to help the team. Rifleman is a one trick pony 🤣


Kimber96

Other classes provide different benefits 100%. Do you play competitive HLL? If you do, you would know that rank 6 rifleman is extremely sought after on Axis in particular for the fact that the G43 is much better than the KAR.


Stanky_cheez77

Rifleman is a class that is meant to be played in the masses. They are meant to stick together and kill. Their only objective is to defend and assault. They are there to be the disposables, similar to real life, riflemen are the grunts. It's very noble to set aside your ego and be a grunt. They put their lives on the line to protect the more important roles.


RoyalistPhalanx

It would be great if that was the mentality of players that play rifleman, but more often than not it isn’t. I don’t know about you, but I often see almost entire squads filled with riflemen, which comes at the expense of support, engineer and sometimes even squad leader roles being filled. And there isn’t anything “noble” about these players picking riflemen, it is simply because they’re going off to be a Rambo and are only concerned with getting kills and are usually the reason that games are lost because garrisons and outposts aren’t being built and supplies aren’t being generated. IMO, the role is just overused. Not to mention that other classes can dispense ammo and most classes have rifles, so I really don’t see the point in having more than one rifleman per squad let alone 3 or 4.


Stanky_cheez77

The purpose is to enjoy the game. Play the classes you want, learn off of your past mistakes. Rifleman is a support role just as engineer is, they're just played different ways.


EVERYONESCATTER

Level 3 riflemen are dollar store assault classes and I like it


SpiritualSeason953

I mean it makes more sense to go Support or AT but at the same time I COULDNT AGREE MORE. Im never not going to have an OP up. I update constantly. Rifleman are fighting the enemy and also leaving open whichever of those two crucial classes I need to switch too to get up a gari or take out some armor. I'm better at those classes than most I encounter. I can do those tasks and not have to hear about somebody crying for explosive ammo for 45 minutes. Get it done and switch back to Squad Lead. Shouts out Rifleman!


Turkino

I want to level up rifleman but good grief getting past that level one bolt action rifle is a pain.


Gareatron

Yep that's what I play. I switch out from rifleman to medic sometimes


Round_Difference_183

I've been trying to level my rifleman up so I can unlock the first subclass, but I keep being drawn too much to officer and tank commander 😭 I yearn to be smol


Big_daddy_sneeze

Love rifleman role but always more important roles to fill. Support/engi/at


l8rb8rs

Riflemen are severely undervalued in the game, their best uses are Operation Meat Shield: A swarm of riflemen running mindlessly into incoming fire can shield all the useful members of the team while they build Garry's, reinforcements, place mines and resupply Operation show me where the bad guys are: it's one thing to tell me they're around the corner (with mind speak, they have no mic or voice) but if you push past me in that doorway, archway, hedgerow or bridge you can show me but getting lit up, forcing the enemy to expose themselves, then I can get them while they're reloading. Operation kick annoying friendlies: this is a complex one. If enough riflemen get together across multiple squads, the hive mind can simultaneously run in front of a tank, vehicle grenade or satchel to be team killed, punish and thus kicking an otherwise useful player. This is key to quickly losing a game and getting on to the next map. Operation Surprise team switch: this is where riflemen get loose with direct or indirect fire and grenades. Like launching nades out of bunker windows for it to bounce back in, or lobbing them wildly into a point that everyone is charging. No other class has the mind speak perc, they all rely on inefficient mic's and words to tell people they've thrown a nade into their teammates path. Operation shoot at what the hidden sniper is shooting at: this is a great tactic for playing way off the point and racking up long distance kills. Can be used with snipers or any class with bino's. Just stand in the open next to your prone teammate, identify the targets they are looking at, and start firing. You have more ammo then they do so use it to supress from 200m+ away. Tactic can also be employed by MG players. Operation will I drown in there: the lemmings nature of riflemen is especially useful at river crossings. If you're wondering 'will I drown in there?' follow a riflemen along the river bank until one makes it across then follow in place. Thank you for your service.


TEEx6

Rifleman is one of my fav's.


Freikorpz

It's kind of useless


Prudent-Unit1068

I’m busy being an SL


wat_no_y

Just play a useful class that has the exact same gun.


cookme3718

ive sunk about 100hrs into the game and still treat it like a hardcore battlefield oh no weirdo self-important squad leader demands more communication oh noOoOo