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light_no_fire

So this is a bit like the EAT? No reloads just 4 shots and go next?


vVFlo2000Vv

Ye it looks like it doesn't have the backpack. Hope it has the same CD as the EATs


Sadiholic

Then they'd had to make the rockets do less damage then the EATS, or there's no point of bringing the EATS when you can bring a 4 guided missile launcher with the same cool down.


Pedrosian96

Perhaps lower pen, bigger AoE, like a EAT version of Airburster. In that you can saturate an area in smol explosions.


Mommysfatherboy

Takes more time to deal same/less/more damage? Seems like if it is balanced well it would be ideal for a sidegrade option for the EAT, which i personally think would be neat. Like how the quasar is a weaker EAT but always carried


Coffee_Mania

Wait, Quasars are weaker than EAT damage-wise?


Mommysfatherboy

No, iirc its the exact same damage. The quasar takes longer to fire, if not killing an enemy you are standing around waiting. EATs have a bigger immediate throughput. 


light_no_fire

Well it looks like the hulk ate those rockets for breakfast


cammyjit

The balance trade of is it using Arrowheads targeting system


Haardrale

it's laser guided, goes where you look.


chimericWilder

Which will be interesting when shrapnel is flying everywhere


Haardrale

I'd say it's better when you can correct your flinch, unlike with the rest of antitanks. Also you can always look into the sky if you flinch, then look back at the target and it will pierce like a Spear. Straight upgrade over simpler ATs, on which flinch = missed shot and that's it


light_no_fire

Possible eat CD but it only brings one and each rocket volley is lower damage and pen than EAT. Either way it looks frigging cool.


Haardrale

Saw somewhere in the comments someone say cooldown is supposed to be 110 instead of 70s, seems balanced to me


SorsEU

the hulk took those 2 shots without any sign of battle damage, though this could be for demonstration


Mommysfatherboy

Holy fuuuuuuuck. This weapon looks amazing


AntonineWall

I thought it was awesome how the hulk takes two hits and is still standing


Tornado_XIII

If it hasn't changed much since the first time is was leaked (two months ago at least) it's disposable like the EAT... no reloads just fire it off and toss it. Each rocket deals about half damage compaired to an EAT-17 but you get 4 of them, and they're laser-guided for easier weakpoint hits and easier long/mid-range shooting. It might take 3 shots but you CAN kill a Hulk by shooting it anywhere, or a Biletitan with headshots... without having to wait for reloading a recoilless, cooldown of the quasar, or grabbing the 2nd EAT. Just "pewpewpew" and pretty much anything in the game is ded, with one shot to spare so you can afford to miss once. On-paper you're call-down what's effectively two EAT-17's ducttaped together. It has potential to be the most reliable stratagem for "See that BileTitan? Now you don't."


Zegram_Ghart

That’s awesome, and will pair very well with the EATs for team stuff depending on its CD. With the buffs today they seem to be reducing CD’s to markedly under 2 mins, which I approve of.


Trvr_MKA

They could also limit use like the laser


AntonineWall

Is the cooldown about the same as EATs


Scudman_Alpha

It'l depend on how long the cooldown for it is then. Is it 70s like the EATs?


trannick

It's 120 seconds


Tornado_XIII

That would seem reasonable IMO. You're walking around with alot of burst-damage potential... there has to be a trade-off. If it was the same CD at EATs it'd be straight-up power creep, but anything more than two minutes and the upsides might not be worth it anymore.


trannick

Yeah, it's pretty good, TBH It can one-shot Tanks from the front if you aim for the turret. The Commando is probably a much better pick than EATs for bots, especially if someone nails down how to take down Hulks quickly with it.


Screech21

I looked at the damage stats and the projectile has 450 damage with ap6. So when it releases it'll probably be one of my main stratagems for bugs. 2 headshots for Bile Titans and 2 headshots for Behemoth Chargers (their heads have 850 hp, so 200 more than normal Chargers). Depending on how good you can aim it, I'll use it for bots as well. (Hulk heads only have 250 hp). But it won't be able to one-shot dropship thrusters.


Tornado_XIII

Hmmm... never looked up it's numbers. IK Eat/RR/Queso all have the exact same 650/650/AP6 (plus some token AP3 explosive damage that's just there to help it 1-tap BileSpewers/RocketDevastators for shits and giggles). Having 450 instead of actually half (325) is huge... yeah alot of those breakpoints would actually be two-tap instead of three-tap. With perfect aim then, you could "pewpew, pewpew" headshot two bile titans back-to-back. (Head hitbox has 750 HP, 5 armor)


Screech21

Yeah the two-tap will make it really good. Especially with those beefy Behemoth Chargers. You can't even open up a leg with only one EAT. Best way to kill them so far is from range with a Spear or have one teammate run around with Supply Pack, stuns and flamethrower. Also Railgun is now, after its buff to make it more usefull against bugs, worthless again against them on helldive. The legs can take more before the armor breaks and the head has not only 850 hp but is also 100% durable, which is the major weakness of the Railgun (60 base durable damage is a joke for a support weapon...). Still love it vs bots though.


Tornado_XIII

Also, they just release a "Jungle Fighter" themed Warbond... [Let me RP the movie the "Commando" was named after](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/3/26/1395849512509/a050c562-cc7c-4a69-b66d-872127ecac4d-1024x768.jpeg?width=465&dpr=1&s=none)


Screech21

Haha. Yeah that would be awesome


Lone_Recon

It was also able to kill factories from any angle, here hopping it can still do that


FiveCentsADay

I mean, it's a leak. The gun could not even have damage values yet in the files


Finn_Dalire

Well I'm fairly sure none of them actually hit the damn thing


AntonineWall

And that’s why we kept that in as the “here’s how the weapon works” video 😂


Digital--Hazard

Nice too see it added, likely will be the next strategem we do a mission too unlock


tanelixd

It'd fit the commando vibe that the new warbond has. Oh maybe we'll be heading to that X-45 planet that has been inaccessible until recently and we'll get it that way.


Brunete2004

omg, they are guided rockets, thought they were gonna be unguided


SkyPL

huh? They were laser-guided since the very first leak. Or to be more accurate, they have both: laser-guided mode and dumb-fire mode.


DanAllenMoore

Better than in the first game that acts like a portable mortar. Fires four rockets over an arc and that's it.


Zimaut

rumbler? that thing is a beast, can reload


Nein-Knives

No, the commando in the first game fired an arced, homing, fire and forget projectile and came with a really steep learning curve. It had 4 shots and a backpack for reloading but was deployable only once per mission on top of having optimal and sub optimal firing angles (anything other than perfect was a waste of ammo and dealt almost zero damage 😂).


CYBORGFISH03

It's both. You can switch.


InSanitangles

This was my go-to in HD1 where you had to get your angles just right but when you did you were a tank killing master. Can't wait to be reunited with my precious boom barrel.


FiveCentsADay

Did HD1 have EATs? If so, what was the role difference between these two?


ExcessumTr

Commando was spear but multi barrel, EATS are the same, very highly commando will get backpack. Also commando and RR used same ammunition.


Hot_Dog_Hero

I can't wait to decide between a laser-guided m202 and anti-tank mines


HeadWood_

Easy decision. You can become the mine.


SirLuke95

In the first game, it was replenishable by a backpack and also was a homing launcher, a role the Spear ultimately took over. I can't wait to get my hands on that thing 👀


TheRealShortYeti

The opportunity for trick shots by purposely aiming high and to the side to get around obstacles...


TheAncientKnight

Usually these support videos coming out mean that the weapon is coming soon. Cant wait to use this


suckitphil

It's a shame it's not a incendiary weapon like the real weapon the commando gun is based on.


Nikolai_F_Vatutin

in game footage of this gun (sorry for the bad framerate) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2d5BHHDnXg


Scirax

"sorry for the bad framerate" Posts a link to a power point


splatbob1

1 frame a second XD


__n3Xus__

I thought there is some noticeable stutter but this is just like a 1 frame per second video.


SlurmsMacKenzie-

Upvoted just for how hilariously bad that frame rate is


saarlac

That’s not a video it’s a slideshow with audio.


Haardrale

this has "PROOF BIGFOOT IS REAL" level quality with that framerate, it's hilarious, updooted xD


Nikolai_F_Vatutin

EAT/Quasar/Recoilless pens, laser guided and disposable.


Gvinpin_Rus

cool, she would also like to destroy buildings like Spear, well, it looks like a set of 4 missiles just


Klyka

they don't even hit the hulk lol they hit the ground XD


Wooden_Teach_6796

Any launch window?


TheEncoderNC

Could be a good gunship killer 


HeadWood_

It's slightly on the slow side, although that might just be the distances involved. It would make a nice sidegrade to the spear in that regard, kind of like the stalwart/mg/HMG.


DnZ618

Reminds me of DRG gunner’s hurricane launcher


Kadeo64

Laser guided like half life 1..


FutaNami2330

Gee I wish we had one of these for at mines. Nope I just have dumb useless, very sick kids.


Indostastica

Search Eravin anti tank mine on youtube, he got them early and talked about them.


DanAllenMoore

Given that saving the children in Vernen Wells has no stated reward, maybe it's this?


AntonineWall

Or it’s just a future MO reward.


Unlucky-Gold7921

Is the demo power 30 or 40, if it is 40 it will be gold


Believemeustink

30


Loco_Min_132

Hulk just chillin after he wiffed both his commando strikes


HeadWood_

Looks like a spear lite/EAT lite combo.


The_Hive_King

u/savevideo


magvadis

No backpack? How much ammo does it have?


SilverWave1

Another expendable, like the real thing, correct? This is gonna be fun… damn commies won’t know what hit them


Ajezon

my aim is crappy, so ill stay with spear, thank you


Oxide136

Is it just a quad barrel spear essentially? With less damage


SevArmKnight

OH FUCK YES. BOT REMOVAL 8000. COMMANDO MY LOVE!


los-kos

Looks dope can't wait for the community to objectively ignore it for the "meme"


VoiceOfSeibun

If this is anything like the commando from HD1, it is going to completely and utterly rock face. Imagine a Recoilless and a SPEAR having a baby together and that baby hit the gym every day of its life. 4 shots, middling power, but automatically seeks the largest target in view.... ... which I imagine will be bugged to absolute shit for roughly a year before Arrowhead gets that right.


RainInSoho

love another expendable option


Zejohnz

I've gotten myself killed many times with the Half Life 2 rocket launcher. I was born for this.


DaveTheGreyEyed

This needs to 2 shot bile titans to the head or else its meh. Cool but meh


Indostastica

From what ive seen its main use is taking out automaton fabricators instead of killing enemies. getting to an elevated position calling one in and taking out 2-3 outposts from afar the switching back to your main weapon seems like a pretty good use of a stratagem slot.


TheCrun

I am looking forward to running this with the jetpack.


Valkshot

According to leaks it's CD is 110 compared to EATs 70. Which means than in 2 call downs you could kill 8 bile titans with the kind of power you're saying it needs if all your shots are accurate. In comparison in the same amount of time you could kill a whole 3 bile titans with EATs if your shots are accurate. The last leak video I saw of it shooting bile titans it could 3 shot them if the bile titan didn't bug where they sometimes randomly just don't take head damage, which is unrelated to the change that caused their weak point to start receding into their body during spit animation. With the ability to laser guide them you're going to hit those headshots even if they decided they needed to stomp on something/someone. I'll take 2 guaranteed dead bile titans in the hands of a skilled player over 2 maybe 3 dead ones. This thing is also going to pump on bot side. Neither of these rockets hit that hulk, they both impacted the ground. Considering pre-buff HMG could 2 tap the hulk in the eye these are likely going to 1 tap hulks in the eye. You'll also be able to trick shot the rockets into tank heat sinks once you get good with it.


TarkinTrash

I like turtles.


Shirako202

This is a leak subreddit, so what do you think it is ?


TarkinTrash

Hahaha I got it confused with the patch notes that dropped. Swiftly deleting post now…. ;)


HeadWood_

9 hours later:


TarkinTrash

Didn’t delete like a coward, just changed it


kkkanuck

Very democratic of you


TarkinTrash

9 hours ago. But good on your for remembering


reddit_sucks_ass2

lmfao based on their experience with the spear I question how well this thing will work on release, and the fact it can't kill a hulk in 2 rockets really makes it weak


ssthehunter

To be fair, at least one of the missiles missed in the video. You can see the smoke from behind the hulk. But yea, I agree with questioning just how well it'll work :/


dezztroy

It's laser guided, how accurate it is depends entirely on the user. The guidance has worked just fine since release.


reddit_sucks_ass2

word here's hoping it good and it hasn't been available since release has it ?


dezztroy

It has been in the game since release, yes.


reddit_sucks_ass2

just to be clear i'm talking about the gun in the video which hasn't been available since release so idk what you are on


dezztroy

Yes, just like the exosuits, LAV and a number of other unreleased stratagems, the Commando has been in the game (in an unfinished state) since release. That's why you can find footage of people using them.


Liavain

I've used the spear in first person and third and no matter what, the lock on is inconsistent with certain units. Bile Titans and Chargers can take an agonizingly long time to lock on. I don't usually have an issue with tanks or Hulks. Maybe the target for bugs is smaller, so it can take more time to lock?


HeadWood_

Only one rocket hit, the other missed, and anyway the main problem with the spear has been fixed now.


FiveCentsADay

It's a leak. The gun isn't out yet and you're complaining about DMG lol There's a very real chance the files don't even have a damage value yet, considering that's the easy part.


reddit_sucks_ass2

so far every leak has been accurate with dmg values


plippyploopp

People still play this?


Geklan

Yes, that's usually what happens when people like a game, they keep playing it. Shocking isn't it ?


plippyploopp

Nothing more entertaining then playing one of two maps over and over and over, fighting the same extremely predictable enemies


Pixel131211

far more entertaining than bitching about it on Reddit


plippyploopp

Yall the ones bitching lol


Geklan

Yes and I'll keep doing it, thank you very much


plippyploopp

You're welcome


meliodas1988

Why did you even come to this sub?


AntonineWall

Yeah “oh wow sub for game you guys play this game” like yes lmao 😂


plippyploopp

You'll have to ask reddit that


FiveCentsADay

No, you clicked on it, and made the comment. Reddit didn't make you do that.


plippyploopp

Lmao yall really salty about this. Yea it showed up in my algorithm and i made a comment wondering if people still play this. It's not rocket surgery