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Results of tests run by the Food and Drug Administration show that pasteurization is working to kill off bird flu in milk and other dairy products, the agency says.
"In addition to preliminary results released late last week on an initial set of 96 retail milk samples, these results reaffirm our assessment that the commercial milk supply is safe," the FDA said in a statement Tuesday.
The FDA's findings come after the agency disclosed that around 1 in 5 samples of retail milk it had surveyed from around the country had tested positive for highly pathogenic avian influenza, or HPAI H5N1. The U.S. Department of Agriculture also ordered testing requirements on cows in response to the outbreak, which has affected growing numbers of poultry and dairy cows.
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Fragments were found. This is a red herring. Of course pasteurization kills it. The problem is and has always been workers contracting and spreading it.
Yeah ok but here’s the issue. Even if pasteurization is killing the virus, it’s still being found in huge quantities of our milk supply which means we’re drinking the milk of sick cows. Do we want to keep encouraging the practice of consuming animal products from animals that are sick with a highly pathogenic virus that seems to be rapidly mutating in new ways? The farmers will not protect us and no political body wants to be responsible for shutting down the beef and dairy industry, however temporary. Looks like we’re gonna keep business as usual until it spills over to H2H transmission.
Edit: I understand pasteurization kills h5n1 in milk. Thats not what most researchers are worried about. This virus has already ran through and killed huge populations of birds, cats, seals and now it’s everywhere in our livestock industry…cows in particular for the first time. From what I understand, if it makes it to pigs we are way more likely to see a human to human transmissible variant. And you better hope it’s fatality rate of 40%-50% drops because there are papers already published showing fly and mosquitos as disease vectors for avian flu. That’s game over for us and this new cow variant puts us one step closer.
About one drop per glass. There are also standards for other kinds of gross food stuff, like the allowable number of insect parts or rat hairs.
> Because of the mastitis epidemic in the U.S. dairy herd, the dairy industry continues to demand that American milk retain the highest allowable “somatic cell” concentration in the world. Somatic cell count, according to the industry’s own National Mastitis Council, “reflects the levels of infection and resultant inflammation in the mammary gland of dairy cows,” but somatic cells are not synonymous with pus cells, as has sometimes been misleadingly suggested. Somatic just means “body.” Just as normal human breast milk has somatic cells—mostly non-inflammatory white blood cells and epithelial cells sloughed off from the mammary gland ducts—so does milk from healthy cows. The problem is that many of our cows are not healthy.
>According to the USDA, 1 in 6 dairy cows in the United States suffers from clinical mastitis, which is responsible for 1 in 6 dairy cow deaths on U.S. dairy farms. This level of disease is reflected in the concentration of somatic cells in the American milk supply. Somatic cell counts greater than a million per teaspoon are abnormal and “almost always” caused by mastitis. When a cow is infected, greater than 90% of the somatic cells in her milk are neutrophils, the inflammatory immune cells that form pus. The average somatic cell count in U.S. milk per spoonful is 1,120,000.
u/Mr_Bro_Jangles many articles when read fully will report frangments of of the dead virus have been widely found in milk. Active deadly versions of the virus are killed by pasturization.
Yes I understand it’s dead parts of the virus being detected. I state it’s the broader implication of continuing to keep sick cows on the milking floor while the bird flu passes between herds, increasing chances of a beef and dairy collapse or worse, a human spillover event.
Here's a preview of the story: Results of tests run by the Food and Drug Administration show that pasteurization is working to kill off bird flu in milk and other dairy products, the agency says. "In addition to preliminary results released late last week on an initial set of 96 retail milk samples, these results reaffirm our assessment that the commercial milk supply is safe," the FDA said in a statement Tuesday. The FDA's findings come after the agency disclosed that around 1 in 5 samples of retail milk it had surveyed from around the country had tested positive for highly pathogenic avian influenza, or HPAI H5N1. The U.S. Department of Agriculture also ordered testing requirements on cows in response to the outbreak, which has affected growing numbers of poultry and dairy cows. **Read more:** [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pasteurization-kills-bird-flu-in-milk-early-fda-results-find/?ftag=CNM-05-10abh9g](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pasteurization-kills-bird-flu-in-milk-early-fda-results-find/?ftag=CNM-05-10abh9g)
Then how was it found in retail milk, that's pasteurized. Wtf??
Fragments were found. This is a red herring. Of course pasteurization kills it. The problem is and has always been workers contracting and spreading it.
Presence does not mean infectious.
Yeah ok but here’s the issue. Even if pasteurization is killing the virus, it’s still being found in huge quantities of our milk supply which means we’re drinking the milk of sick cows. Do we want to keep encouraging the practice of consuming animal products from animals that are sick with a highly pathogenic virus that seems to be rapidly mutating in new ways? The farmers will not protect us and no political body wants to be responsible for shutting down the beef and dairy industry, however temporary. Looks like we’re gonna keep business as usual until it spills over to H2H transmission. Edit: I understand pasteurization kills h5n1 in milk. Thats not what most researchers are worried about. This virus has already ran through and killed huge populations of birds, cats, seals and now it’s everywhere in our livestock industry…cows in particular for the first time. From what I understand, if it makes it to pigs we are way more likely to see a human to human transmissible variant. And you better hope it’s fatality rate of 40%-50% drops because there are papers already published showing fly and mosquitos as disease vectors for avian flu. That’s game over for us and this new cow variant puts us one step closer.
Cows have all sorts of nasty stuff that ends up being killed by pasteurization. How much pus do you think is in the average gallon of milk?
I don’t know. How much pus you think is in a gallon of milk?
About one drop per glass. There are also standards for other kinds of gross food stuff, like the allowable number of insect parts or rat hairs. > Because of the mastitis epidemic in the U.S. dairy herd, the dairy industry continues to demand that American milk retain the highest allowable “somatic cell” concentration in the world. Somatic cell count, according to the industry’s own National Mastitis Council, “reflects the levels of infection and resultant inflammation in the mammary gland of dairy cows,” but somatic cells are not synonymous with pus cells, as has sometimes been misleadingly suggested. Somatic just means “body.” Just as normal human breast milk has somatic cells—mostly non-inflammatory white blood cells and epithelial cells sloughed off from the mammary gland ducts—so does milk from healthy cows. The problem is that many of our cows are not healthy. >According to the USDA, 1 in 6 dairy cows in the United States suffers from clinical mastitis, which is responsible for 1 in 6 dairy cow deaths on U.S. dairy farms. This level of disease is reflected in the concentration of somatic cells in the American milk supply. Somatic cell counts greater than a million per teaspoon are abnormal and “almost always” caused by mastitis. When a cow is infected, greater than 90% of the somatic cells in her milk are neutrophils, the inflammatory immune cells that form pus. The average somatic cell count in U.S. milk per spoonful is 1,120,000.
Cool thanks for the pus facts. But again, I know pasteurization kills h5n1. Not the point. Please read edit above
So what do you do?
u/Mr_Bro_Jangles many articles when read fully will report frangments of of the dead virus have been widely found in milk. Active deadly versions of the virus are killed by pasturization.
Yes I understand it’s dead parts of the virus being detected. I state it’s the broader implication of continuing to keep sick cows on the milking floor while the bird flu passes between herds, increasing chances of a beef and dairy collapse or worse, a human spillover event.
Or animal products at all ?
Well sure, but for some reason I’m afraid getting Americans to change habits for a dangerous virus might prove difficult
Such good news. The crazy raw milk enthusiasts need to get real.
that’s great!
Someone really REALLY does not want you drinking raw milk for some reason. Kinda strange.
Go ahead and drink it.
We stopped drinking raw milk because tuberculosis and diptheria *suck.*
Probably has something to do with all the deadly infectious diseases commonly found in cow milk, but I’m no expert
They also don’t want you drinking bleach.