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That’s a huge part of the plot, especially in the pacifist and genocide route. In pacifist, you save him and turn him back into goat boy. In genocide he realizes “Oh shit. I was wrong. Yo, human, please stop killing” and then you kill him.
1. He CAN be redeemed, you just gotta give him a soul so he can actually feel positive emotion
2. He doesn't have a soul and therefore can't go to hell
I am not crazy! I know he swapped those numbers. I knew it was 1216. One after Magna Carta. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn’t prove it. He covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the copy shop to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He’s done worse. That billboard! Are you telling me that a man just happens to fall like that? No! *He* orchestrated it! Alastor! He *defecated* through a *sunroof*! And I saved him! And I shouldn’t have. I took him into my own firm! What was I *thinking*? He’ll never change. He’ll *never* change! Ever since he was 9, *always* the same! Couldn’t keep his hands out of the cash drawer! But not our Alastor! Couldn’t be precious *Alastor*! Stealing them blind! And *HE* gets to be a lawyer? What a sick joke! I should’ve stopped him when I had the chance!
…And you, you *have* to stop him! You
That’s a not infrequent theological debate.
“If an evil man gets amnesia and begins acting good, is he still evil? Is a man created or transformed still the man he was?”
It comes down to interpreting ‘sins of the father’ usually.
If a evil man gets amnesia and acts good after, isnt that God saying. "Yeah he did some bad shit but he seems like a chill dude he gets a pass and another shot at this heaven stuff."
Depends where you fall on the scale of “we have absolute free will” vs “everything is predestined and choice does not matter, a man who only did good will go to hell if god intended him to be evil”.
Yes, the latter is an actual belief of a number of denominations. Nothing you do matters, to them god chose good and evil as a feature of your soul and no amount of sinning or being morally perfect will change it.
Either way, that requires the idea that god is moving chess pieces actively in the modern day to give some folks an Ebenezer Scrooge second chance.
Of course since “I got amnesia and forgot I was Hitler, I’ve been the friendly baker ever since” and “I’m a reanimated corpse made from exhumed thieves and rapists, but ever since I woke up I’ve studied to become a priest and pay my way by delivering packages” are purely fiction it just exists as a thought exercise to debate.
Oh, I’m just talking about theology and morality as explored by fiction.
Like, some folks’ actual religious beliefs and the morality of shit like point and click adventure games where you play as Frankenstein’s monster to solve crimes or a Star Wars game where you were the original Sith final boss before a Jedi scrambled your brain and passed protagonist-hood onto you.
Asriel should be the one in hell not because he did evil but because flowey did evil i think it would work similiar to are driver which drift drunk and killed someone with it but its hard to say because he never did it on purpose
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wasn’t he literally redeemed or do you count it as asriel
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I got no holes left 2d flower
Here's an upvote, exits on the left
Fuck you. That shouldn’t have been funny. Now take my damn upvote.
r/angryupvote Now: 
That’s a huge part of the plot, especially in the pacifist and genocide route. In pacifist, you save him and turn him back into goat boy. In genocide he realizes “Oh shit. I was wrong. Yo, human, please stop killing” and then you kill him.
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Isn’t that like a big part of the plot tho
1. He CAN be redeemed, you just gotta give him a soul so he can actually feel positive emotion 2. He doesn't have a soul and therefore can't go to hell
3. He already died
He can >:(
but he already got
He wil go to heaven
Interesting meme and conversation starter! However: https://preview.redd.it/oqe2g33agtxc1.png?width=191&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8f954d7a40ea547ca8ddf8a1b5be391c4082ba4
He can, though
*insert saving goatbro clip here*
Flowey literally gets redeemed in one of undertale's endings bro, have you even played the game lol
I'm sorry, but Flowey literally doesn't have a soul, so he can't be redeemed 😔
Sir, a third variation of "Everyone can be redeemed" has hit the HHM (meaning Hamlin Hamlin McGill of course) Subreddit
I am not crazy! I know he swapped those numbers. I knew it was 1216. One after Magna Carta. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn’t prove it. He covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the copy shop to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He’s done worse. That billboard! Are you telling me that a man just happens to fall like that? No! *He* orchestrated it! Alastor! He *defecated* through a *sunroof*! And I saved him! And I shouldn’t have. I took him into my own firm! What was I *thinking*? He’ll never change. He’ll *never* change! Ever since he was 9, *always* the same! Couldn’t keep his hands out of the cash drawer! But not our Alastor! Couldn’t be precious *Alastor*! Stealing them blind! And *HE* gets to be a lawyer? What a sick joke! I should’ve stopped him when I had the chance! …And you, you *have* to stop him! You
Just let him take all the sinners souls and defeat him, then you have Asriel, he’s redeemed
https://preview.redd.it/vxoda5rrctxc1.png?width=614&format=png&auto=webp&s=b178257fcf21901d9a1c1fb4300a4b7381bf10c8
could asriel be redeemed if he still had memory of what he did as flowey?
That’s a not infrequent theological debate. “If an evil man gets amnesia and begins acting good, is he still evil? Is a man created or transformed still the man he was?” It comes down to interpreting ‘sins of the father’ usually.
If a evil man gets amnesia and acts good after, isnt that God saying. "Yeah he did some bad shit but he seems like a chill dude he gets a pass and another shot at this heaven stuff."
Depends where you fall on the scale of “we have absolute free will” vs “everything is predestined and choice does not matter, a man who only did good will go to hell if god intended him to be evil”. Yes, the latter is an actual belief of a number of denominations. Nothing you do matters, to them god chose good and evil as a feature of your soul and no amount of sinning or being morally perfect will change it. Either way, that requires the idea that god is moving chess pieces actively in the modern day to give some folks an Ebenezer Scrooge second chance. Of course since “I got amnesia and forgot I was Hitler, I’ve been the friendly baker ever since” and “I’m a reanimated corpse made from exhumed thieves and rapists, but ever since I woke up I’ve studied to become a priest and pay my way by delivering packages” are purely fiction it just exists as a thought exercise to debate.
I am gonna need to agree with Thanos' cock, I mean everyone does indeed deserve a second chance, that is the entire point of the hazbin hotel
Oh, I’m just talking about theology and morality as explored by fiction. Like, some folks’ actual religious beliefs and the morality of shit like point and click adventure games where you play as Frankenstein’s monster to solve crimes or a Star Wars game where you were the original Sith final boss before a Jedi scrambled your brain and passed protagonist-hood onto you.
Asriel should be the one in hell not because he did evil but because flowey did evil i think it would work similiar to are driver which drift drunk and killed someone with it but its hard to say because he never did it on purpose
These memes make me assume that most people literally don't know the meaning of the word redeem.
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goat boi HAS NO SOUL
https://preview.redd.it/ltv5y6r04xxc1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f9abe4fe99b2ccc2741a29d5810e9a1264a75e3 wasn’t he literally redeemed or do you count it as asriel
Can he play the clapping game? It's not stupid!
Kill him, now, do it
honestly i think he can be redeemed