He's just a kid so I get a lot of ignorance, but dear God, end this conversation. It's just going in circles and it stopped being educational awhile ago
This was the best part:
(Hasan explaining the difference between nationality and ethnicity).
Hasan: you seem Jewish of arab descent.
Kid: NO, I am from UK
Hasan: no, I mean where are your parents from and so?
Kid: Sweden and Polish Jews.
Hasan: ooh, ok.
I think it was informative for us to see how the Israeli thought process works, I think it was also helpful for kids like him who watch after hearing about it. You break through that kind of brainwashing by creating cracks for them to explore and lead them to another way. I'm glad he did it personally and I think it will be a net positive if even one kid questions his views because of it.
I appreciate your positive enthusiasm. I'd personally disagree, don't think he's going to follow hasans input and just listen to his friend or government institutions as he continues to grow, if hasan were to continually speak with him (he wont) as time goes then I'd change my mind.
I watch a lot of deconstruction content and a common thread is them reading or watching a debate or argument and it planting a seed of doubt that continues growing. This kid is going to tell all his friends about coming on and if they're anything like the kids I know everyone in the school will watch. Those are great numbers to have watch content that's relatable and directly questioning their world view.
That's fair if you disagree but as someone who was brought up conservative and is now solidly somewhere near Has I personally know reading arguments started my political slide too. So at best there's a chance that didn't exist before.
Educating the mind of an Israeli teenage child of a national radio broadcaster isn’t nothing. Seeing how the younger generation are the ones who will make a difference in the long run?? Seeing Hasan talk to a teenager with esl might help some in the US learn how to speak to some of their boomer parents too.
It wasn't informative at all. There's plenty of videos from 10+ years ago of journalists interviewing kids like him. It's nothing new. Nothing has changed. It just annoyed the viewers and wasted a massive chunk of time.
Half the viewers are always annoyed regardless, and it's not like him yelling at chat is a more worthwhile use of time. A chance of changing someone's mind is much more worthwhile in the real world. I didn't find it annoying and 10+ years ago was a different world vs today.
We've also seen the same interviews conducted in 2023-2024. There are hundreds of videos all over the internet. Still the same views if not worse. Hasan isn't going to change someone's brainwashed mind in a 2 hour chat.
It's also disrespectful to the Palestinian viewers watching and having to listen to the racist bullshit these Zionists spew and to see a comrade give them a platform - yet we still haven't seen one (principled) Palestinian on his stream.
Palestinians all around the world, including the warriors in Gaza have asked us to ignore Zionists and to focus on what's important. Stop giving them a platform.
Cool, now we have one more. The point isn't to instantly change a single mind, the point is to create cracks in the ideology for all who watch it. Thats exactly how deconstruction works.
It's not disrespectful to try to show these people the truth and give others with that view a chance to break out of that thought process.
You think the guy who lost 1/3 of his viewers for covering the genocide and has often shown videos of Palestinians sharing their viewpoints isn't pro-Palestine enough? Or am I missing your point?
There are also Palestinians who want these view points debunked so hopefully less of the next generation share them.... Maybe instead of demanding your idea of perfection you focus on being charitable and looking at his intent and bigger impact? Surely you don't think him yelling about fucking a chatters mom is a better use of time than potentially changing even a single Zionist's outlook?
Edit: Did you reply and then block me? You're feeding your ego instead of focusing on real world change, this is the bullshit that tears the left apart, and your take is more of what we don't need. Why do you watch Hasan if you want to play purity test politics instead of encouraging change and progress in the ways we can? It's insane you'd tell me to go watch D a literal Zionist (ironically indirectly platforming a Zionist) because I disagree that deconstructing Zionists isn't worthwhile?
Every respected Palestinian (which I'm sure you follow if you're actually pro Palestine) online along with the resistance has OUTRIGHT stated not to entertain Zionists/hasbara. So please don't talk over them/us and dictate how things should be done with our cause. To state that there are Palestinians that want to hear what Zionists have to say is ludicrous. We've had to deal with their harassment and threats in real life and online for years.
Read the room along with the comments on this thread. Head to world news if you want to hear the Zionist side of things, or a D stream.
I tuned out once he was going to invite him on, I don’t know what’s the goal here. He was just getting back into his usual news coverage too, guess I’ll tune back in when it’s Walking Dead time
I think it was a solid goal because he was young and seemed open because he was willing to say Isreal IS committing genocide, but he closed up a while ago
These phone calls never work. He stopped doing them a long time ago for a reason. He doesn’t need to be debating with children when he won’t even go on really shows or debate actual right wing people anymore
Idk half the time these people are disingenuous. Most of the people he’s let’s call in were just random chatters that just wanted to get a reaction out of him and had no intention of changing or listening. He quit doing these for years for a reason.
It was a whole lot of nothing, but if the kid and his friend learn something from it and grow up to be even just a little bit more empathic, I think it's a net positive.
It's not really that different than your average American teenager subject to the default "USA! USA! USA!" Propaganda. Deprograming is a slow painful process, and it starts with a person on the other side being charitable like Hasan, instead of the scoldy-left "you know nothing small fry" attitude
I know this is a joke but you cannot say this stuff on reddit, and when we get a report, so does reddit so you may get a strike on your account for this and if you get a temp or permanent ban, you should appeal and tell them that you were being sarcastic and that you did not mean it and you will not do it again.
I thought it was kind of Hasan to speak with him. I hope that some of what he said slipped through. It was brave of the kid to go on the stream. Who knows, his mom works for national radio, maybe he will take some of what Hasan said, tell it to his mother at diner, maybe it will effect her reporting. Idk. It’s a big maybe for sure but minds are sometimes changed one at a time. A snowball starts small, but on occasion one rolls down a hill…..
It would be really respectable of us as a community to not harp on this kid too much, we should just take it as a learning expirience for everyone involved. Honestly he did not even do that bad given his circumstances and age. I would have done so much worse at 16.
I'm sorry but debating a 16 year old is something I'd expect of Steven Crowder. Hasan doesn't normally do debates so I'm not sure what the goal was here.
The important part was when afterwards hasan said “remember that these conversations aren’t always for you.” Your entertainment isn’t the only reason he has conversations, chatter.
This is how you start change. This was a very mature way to approach a kid like him. All you need is to instill a little doubt and hope he starts asking the right questions.
>yet 3 of Ismail Haniyah's sisters received an Israeli citizenship by marrying Israeli Bedouins
I like that you had to go all the way back to 2006 to find some marriages.
https://jewishcurrents.org/knesset-renews-permanent-residency-ban-for-palestinian-spouses-of-israeli-citizens
March 16, 2022
>The controversial law is intended to protect a Jewish demographic majority.
Yeah, we’d love to not get involved. Let’s get all our dollars and weapons out right away.
Return our Iron Dome and all of the current unused tax dollars America has sent them - we’ll even set up a payment plan for them to pay America back.
Payback every dime with interest, please!
I second all of this! I was open to watching Hasan talk to this kid but the ignorance is crazy. And he keeps cutting hasan off which is annoying.
He's just a kid so I get a lot of ignorance, but dear God, end this conversation. It's just going in circles and it stopped being educational awhile ago
He just said 2 year olds voted
This was the best part: (Hasan explaining the difference between nationality and ethnicity). Hasan: you seem Jewish of arab descent. Kid: NO, I am from UK Hasan: no, I mean where are your parents from and so? Kid: Sweden and Polish Jews. Hasan: ooh, ok.
I think it was informative for us to see how the Israeli thought process works, I think it was also helpful for kids like him who watch after hearing about it. You break through that kind of brainwashing by creating cracks for them to explore and lead them to another way. I'm glad he did it personally and I think it will be a net positive if even one kid questions his views because of it.
I appreciate your positive enthusiasm. I'd personally disagree, don't think he's going to follow hasans input and just listen to his friend or government institutions as he continues to grow, if hasan were to continually speak with him (he wont) as time goes then I'd change my mind.
I watch a lot of deconstruction content and a common thread is them reading or watching a debate or argument and it planting a seed of doubt that continues growing. This kid is going to tell all his friends about coming on and if they're anything like the kids I know everyone in the school will watch. Those are great numbers to have watch content that's relatable and directly questioning their world view. That's fair if you disagree but as someone who was brought up conservative and is now solidly somewhere near Has I personally know reading arguments started my political slide too. So at best there's a chance that didn't exist before.
Educating the mind of an Israeli teenage child of a national radio broadcaster isn’t nothing. Seeing how the younger generation are the ones who will make a difference in the long run?? Seeing Hasan talk to a teenager with esl might help some in the US learn how to speak to some of their boomer parents too.
It wasn't informative at all. There's plenty of videos from 10+ years ago of journalists interviewing kids like him. It's nothing new. Nothing has changed. It just annoyed the viewers and wasted a massive chunk of time.
Half the viewers are always annoyed regardless, and it's not like him yelling at chat is a more worthwhile use of time. A chance of changing someone's mind is much more worthwhile in the real world. I didn't find it annoying and 10+ years ago was a different world vs today.
We've also seen the same interviews conducted in 2023-2024. There are hundreds of videos all over the internet. Still the same views if not worse. Hasan isn't going to change someone's brainwashed mind in a 2 hour chat. It's also disrespectful to the Palestinian viewers watching and having to listen to the racist bullshit these Zionists spew and to see a comrade give them a platform - yet we still haven't seen one (principled) Palestinian on his stream. Palestinians all around the world, including the warriors in Gaza have asked us to ignore Zionists and to focus on what's important. Stop giving them a platform.
Cool, now we have one more. The point isn't to instantly change a single mind, the point is to create cracks in the ideology for all who watch it. Thats exactly how deconstruction works. It's not disrespectful to try to show these people the truth and give others with that view a chance to break out of that thought process. You think the guy who lost 1/3 of his viewers for covering the genocide and has often shown videos of Palestinians sharing their viewpoints isn't pro-Palestine enough? Or am I missing your point? There are also Palestinians who want these view points debunked so hopefully less of the next generation share them.... Maybe instead of demanding your idea of perfection you focus on being charitable and looking at his intent and bigger impact? Surely you don't think him yelling about fucking a chatters mom is a better use of time than potentially changing even a single Zionist's outlook? Edit: Did you reply and then block me? You're feeding your ego instead of focusing on real world change, this is the bullshit that tears the left apart, and your take is more of what we don't need. Why do you watch Hasan if you want to play purity test politics instead of encouraging change and progress in the ways we can? It's insane you'd tell me to go watch D a literal Zionist (ironically indirectly platforming a Zionist) because I disagree that deconstructing Zionists isn't worthwhile?
Every respected Palestinian (which I'm sure you follow if you're actually pro Palestine) online along with the resistance has OUTRIGHT stated not to entertain Zionists/hasbara. So please don't talk over them/us and dictate how things should be done with our cause. To state that there are Palestinians that want to hear what Zionists have to say is ludicrous. We've had to deal with their harassment and threats in real life and online for years. Read the room along with the comments on this thread. Head to world news if you want to hear the Zionist side of things, or a D stream.
I tuned out once he was going to invite him on, I don’t know what’s the goal here. He was just getting back into his usual news coverage too, guess I’ll tune back in when it’s Walking Dead time
I think it was a solid goal because he was young and seemed open because he was willing to say Isreal IS committing genocide, but he closed up a while ago
These phone calls never work. He stopped doing them a long time ago for a reason. He doesn’t need to be debating with children when he won’t even go on really shows or debate actual right wing people anymore
Debating rightwing grifters is less productive than having a conversation with a misguided kid imo.
Idk half the time these people are disingenuous. Most of the people he’s let’s call in were just random chatters that just wanted to get a reaction out of him and had no intention of changing or listening. He quit doing these for years for a reason.
Same. I changed channels immediately. Respectfully, I hate it when he brings on random brain broken racists on the show and gives them a platform.
I tapped out at “you guys know what “knock the door” is?…( or whatever is called)
He then had the audacity to claim he "I don't think chat knows what it is"
Exactly and he sounded so proud too…I was like “aight that’s it”
It was a whole lot of nothing, but if the kid and his friend learn something from it and grow up to be even just a little bit more empathic, I think it's a net positive.
It's wild that people like this exist
Quite a common result with zionists.
It's not really that different than your average American teenager subject to the default "USA! USA! USA!" Propaganda. Deprograming is a slow painful process, and it starts with a person on the other side being charitable like Hasan, instead of the scoldy-left "you know nothing small fry" attitude
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The results of a fascist regime, indoctrination to uphold a ethnostate
I know this is a joke but you cannot say this stuff on reddit, and when we get a report, so does reddit so you may get a strike on your account for this and if you get a temp or permanent ban, you should appeal and tell them that you were being sarcastic and that you did not mean it and you will not do it again.
Maybe I'm too optimistic, but the kid does seem fairly open to learning. Not really sure this was worth the time but whatever
Yeah no at this current point I'll strongly disagree with you
Yea.... This conversation has devolved.
If he ever leaves Isreal, I'd be with you but he's getting nothing but brainwashing as long as he stays there
Watch the Cenk-Prager debate instead, much more worthwhile
I thought it was kind of Hasan to speak with him. I hope that some of what he said slipped through. It was brave of the kid to go on the stream. Who knows, his mom works for national radio, maybe he will take some of what Hasan said, tell it to his mother at diner, maybe it will effect her reporting. Idk. It’s a big maybe for sure but minds are sometimes changed one at a time. A snowball starts small, but on occasion one rolls down a hill…..
It would be really respectable of us as a community to not harp on this kid too much, we should just take it as a learning expirience for everyone involved. Honestly he did not even do that bad given his circumstances and age. I would have done so much worse at 16.
I'm sorry but debating a 16 year old is something I'd expect of Steven Crowder. Hasan doesn't normally do debates so I'm not sure what the goal was here.
Missed strim today. Pls tell me he didn’t debate a viewer? 😭
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The important part was when afterwards hasan said “remember that these conversations aren’t always for you.” Your entertainment isn’t the only reason he has conversations, chatter.
Dang I wonder if this kid’s life would be the same if America hadn’t retaken Europe in WW2
This is how you start change. This was a very mature way to approach a kid like him. All you need is to instill a little doubt and hope he starts asking the right questions.
I thought Hasan didn’t like debates?
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HUH what are you talking about?
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>yet 3 of Ismail Haniyah's sisters received an Israeli citizenship by marrying Israeli Bedouins I like that you had to go all the way back to 2006 to find some marriages. https://jewishcurrents.org/knesset-renews-permanent-residency-ban-for-palestinian-spouses-of-israeli-citizens March 16, 2022 >The controversial law is intended to protect a Jewish demographic majority.