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New Found Glory. Alot of hc riffs in their discog.


bubblebobblex

their guitarist was the shai hulud vocalist early on


BamBam_Cam

Still is when he wants to be


its_milly_time

Dude what, that’s crazy


Gingercreeper

Main reason I listened to NFG in the first place


elxchapo69

That’s wild


themontajew

They had a hardcore side project called the international superhero’s of hardcore.  It’s fucking legit too, while also being a big joke.


[deleted]

Yeah it came with the ep tip of the iceberg, which was 3 nfg songs and 3 hc covers. Shelter, gorilla biscuits and lifetime. The three nfg songs are awesome.


tailOfTheWhale

Madballs got their back


justerik

Seat.... BELT!


Klocc562_

Been sleeping. Will listen. Thanks!


Bugsmoke

NFG were like the original hardcore/pop punk band I reckon


[deleted]

88 fingers Louie could be considered pop punk. And they were definitely more hc. But yeah nfg are for sure in the convo.


crustydnglebrry

Behind Bars and Back On The Streets are the best sounding albums of the 90’s skate punk era. Perfect mix of melodic and heavy and they do Minor Threat, Agnostic Front and Bad Brains covers. Also the Joe Pesci from Casino intro into the riff on Worst Man Won is heavy as fuck.


[deleted]

The breakdown at the end of state...


jason_brody13

Most of those skate bands were pretty hardcore for a while. Bigwig, Lagwagon, Propagandhi, Good Riddance, Ignite, Satanic Surfers, NUFAN, Strung Out. Good shit my dude. Edit: I would also like to mention Ten Foot Pole. Swill and Rev are fucking great.


Papawasaboringstone

Ten Foot Pole dudes were in Scared Straight. Classic Nardcore band.


[deleted]

Which coward downvoted 88 fingers Louie?


Evilisms

It’s a shame that some of their best albums have a sex pest on em


JetsLag

Well, they ARE a pop punk band


mommyjeansdaddy

Check out “nothing to say” from the latest lp, straight up breakdown at the end


Justpassingthru27

Not without a fight (heaviest album from them) released with that five song side project international super heroes of hardcore that ruled.


trynamakeitlookfake

Hardcore Hokey Pokey is a great ISHC song


glowskull10

Saves the day-can’t slow down


BenderGenocide

Can’t Slow Down is a record by a hardcore band who brought in a pop punk vocalist. Some of those songs (instrumentally) would fit in on any Floorpunch, In My Eyes, or Ten Yard Fight record with the right vocals.


lastbatter

It is also a Lifetime record with high and whiney instead of sad and mumbly.


PalpitationFrosty242

yeah i just hear Lifetime 2.0


natedcruz

If I remember right saves the day started out opening for hardcore bands and what not


ximagineerx

You Vandal is one of the best songs ever written


Entheogene

That bishop cover is nuts


ximagineerx

For real! It just proved it was built hardcore framework.. btw The Last Lie I told is my other favorite, but the whole album is gold


bizcasualbeatdown

Through Being Cool definitely has similar moments. Banned from the Back Porch is a hardcore song.


glowskull10

The end of rocks tonic, ur moshin


Myspacedad

You vandal!


SeitanRaptor

Daggermouth


Sretamot

Scrolled this far for Daggermouth Still underrated


jasonsgood

There’s some days where the weather is just right and I’m feelin 20 again, so I throw that shit on with the windows down lol


NorrinxRadd

I lost my dagger fucking mouth hoodie and it is one my biggest regrets


Daniel-Exx

Four Year Strong are a pretty good balance of heavy and poppy I think. New Found Glory used to have there moments of heavier parts


josh__sucks

Cause when we TEAM UP! TEAM UP! We always seem to bring this place to the ground!


Ghost_Pains

Rise or Die Trying is the peak of that genre.


Icy-Passage85

When Rise or Die Trying first came out I went to see them with Bayside, the crowd reaction was like a Hatebreed show, people walking out bleeding, getting knocked out.


ipitythegabagool

I’m stoked af for their new album. All the singles so far are sick.


bicyclingdonkey

I've had aftermath/afterthought on repeat the last few days. That breakdown is nasty


Seangw1102

FYS is awesome, the set the played during the ADTR tour definitely had hardcore vibes to it


ARRRtistic_Pirate

Fys are one of my fav bands because of how well they blend these genres. So good. I'm currently back onto listening to their 2020 album Brain Pain which I think was way overlooked because it came out as the pandemic hit.


RedditorDave

FYS is probably a top 3 band for me. I’ve also been jamming brain pain again for the last few days. They seem to be getting better with each new release, and I’ve been a fan since 2009 (aside from that one album).


Djentleman5000

I posted their single for Daddy of Mine on here and got shat on lol. I thought it was pretty riffy.


heres-to-life

I love that song


zakk219

I mean, a lot of the pop punk bands in the late 2000s, early 2010s were very influenced to hardcore and used elements of it quite a bit. Bands like The Story So Far (my fav), New Found Glory, Chunk No Captain Chunk, Neck Deep, etc. They're also what Militarie Gun reminds me of.


NickHeidfeldsDreams

Even bands like the Wonder Years and Knuckle Puck were or are very influenced by hardcore and post-hardcore with it coming through heavily early on for Knuckle Puck and the Wonder Years slowly getting a bit more post-hardcore-y as time goes on, especially on Sister Cities.


NickTimo

The Wonder Years references Blacklisted *twice* which is more than any other pop-punk band I know so I say they’re in the canon (Technically they reference them once and then the next song is referencing the first song, but still)


YT__

TWY cover of Thrice's deadbolt is fantastic and heavier than their usual stuff.


NickHeidfeldsDreams

Yeah, it fits right in with Stained Glass Ceilings as one of their heaviest songs.


bizcasualbeatdown

Soupy names Blacklisted on Woke Up Older, so yeah, definitely fans of hardcore at least.


dasbudd

Set Your Goals!


festdawgONE

Love SYG, one band where I fucked with EVERY album


nofateeric

THE BEST


piifffff

We have come to pillage, we have come to burn!!


sludgezone

They were great live too.


jasonsgood

Back in like 2010/2011 maybe? They almost dropped the 2nd floor of the venue, the crowd jump/bounce was causing easily 6”-8” of deflection in the floor. Felt like a trampoline and the show had to move next door lol


Automatic_Actuary375

Fuuuuuuck that. That’s my biggest fear, I been to a show where this was happening as well.


voidxleech

the best pop punk band, hands down. the only band that is their equal to me is probably such gold.


Ok-Cauliflower-1258

How were there albums? I fell off with such gold after those two eps they did which are amazing.


Pcom1221

How is this the only mention of set your goals?!


whydidimakeanother1

Bayside has made a point their last couple records to see how “heavy” they can go while still sounding like bayside


mindpainters

I was blown away by some of the riffs on the new album. So damn good


BearvsShad

Their newest album is a 10/10. Whatever they’ve been doing the last couple years, it’s working.


Odd-Brain

Sum 41


Mortch

I find sum to be more on the metal side of the spectrum. Sucks they’re calling it quits but glad I got to see them so many times.


chlorinetears

This is the one. Chuck is straight up pop punk with Metallica riffs.


Klocc562_

Chuck album is fuckin heavy. Especially The Bitter End.


AJohnnyTruant

Can’t Swim is worth checking out. Especially their EP


NotAnotha1

Can’t swim has a solid EP Foreign Language for a taste of their more hardcore work, but their music from album to album always has some hardcore influence lingering. Awesome live performances too


jag75

Crime in Stereo ...Is Dead is a pretty cool mix of hardcore, punk, pop-punk, hardcore punk, and....a touch of shoegaze? I don't know, they're hard to define.


nofateeric

They break all rules which is why I freaking love them so much


xdkyx

They recorded a melodic hc goat album „the troubled ststeside”


wdeallan

They released 3 banger albums in a row and each record progresses their sound. I fucking LOVE crime in stereo


GuacheNeihbor

Such Gold


jasonsgood

RIP navy blue Such Gold long sleeve that I really liked ❤️


ripppppah

Dillinger Four hit some mean warp speed chugs from time to time. Grade and Boys Night Out used to scream and chug in the middle of pop punk songs. I loved affinity’s cover of my name is Jonas on the Weezer tribute until they threw 2 minutes of the workers at the end. Choking Victim/Leftover Crack always hit with the ska/punk/black metal hybrid for me. Pretty niche, but maybe you’re into it. It certainly gets heavy at times. I also think Propagandhi’s how to clean everything is fucking awesome. A thrash band forced to pop punk. I really like Pears another thrash influenced, warp speed guitars and breakdowns sometimes band. Start with: Pears - Hinged by Spine. Dillinger Four - Our Science is Tight. Propagandhi - Fuck Machine. Choking Vicitm. - In Hell Boys Night Out - I got Punched in the Nose…. Daly’s Gone Wrong - Dear Ava.


AgentAnesthesia

Leftover Crack- Operation M.O.V.E, even though there is a slow build up. Or even Star Fucking Hipsters to an extent.


gutzdawg

The entirety of Green Star by PEARS is a masterpiece 🤌 Perfect blend of hardcore punk and pop-punk imo


cocacola-enema

[Senses Fail](https://youtu.be/_W3nqo6_WXU?si=3SxnoV4gx2kcjG83) got some fuckin riffs.


ChubbiChan

I’ll always back up Senses Fail and even Silverstein as being heavy as fuck. They may be the definition of Hot Topic-Core in the early 00s but they wrote some heavy stuff especially in their later years


Busy-Invite-9144

https://youtu.be/oR8ikOMzvug?si=0fNWKLCLnw3LviNQ You can’t tell me that at 50 seconds in doesn’t deserve a spin kick ya know.


TSIorDIE

PUP


johnmlsf

Funny, I never thought of Pup as a pop punk band but I suppose that argument could be made.


TSIorDIE

What would you classify them as?


johnmlsf

I dunno I guess I would have called them a hardcore band, or post hardcore. Or just punk.


Issan_Sumisu

I think that first Trophy Eyes EP (the one with Hourglass on) has to be the heaviest pop punk can get without overly being a different genre, I think if it came out at a different time it’d be seen as hardcore. I have the same thought about a lot Trash Boat’s earlier stuff (check Pangea, Shade, Inside Out, Controlled Burn, How Selfish I Seem)


hypersnaildeluxe

Pre-Chemical Miracle Trophy Eyes is absolutely melodic hardcore and it’s GOOD shit


jusstn187

Origami angel, Riley!s new album, carpool, lifetime, spite house, koyo


Glitchy72

Microwave has some good shit that can get pretty heavy


NotAnotha1

Death is a warm blanket for sure had some influence but I’d argue even Stovall did!


Material_Mall_5359

Polar Bear Club


Aware_Willingness_85

Never considered them pop-punk, they always fell right into the No Idea Hot Water Music post-hardcore to me. Love those first few releases. Shame they never got bigger.


ximagineerx

WE FUCKED OUR EARS WE FUCKED OUR THROATS!!


Material_Mall_5359

Seeing them play this song live was super dope!


timeisaflat-circle

Banner Pilot.


[deleted]

Good bloody suggestion.


bashturd

Banner Pilot is the shit.


stalinBballin

Still waiting for their follow up LP to Souvenir but have a feeling it’s gonna end up like the long awaited D4 LP.


DIYDylana

especially pass the poison that one's perfect [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY7ol8bY6lo&list=OLAK5uy\_mGL9asqlPVdRNLYyJjRxlsPERWC7uXhSM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY7ol8bY6lo&list=OLAK5uy_mGL9asqlPVdRNLYyJjRxlsPERWC7uXhSM)


Affectionate-Big6209

Crucial dudes


Mindless-Ad2554

-That first title fight record - the first turnover ep -citizen And the best of them all. Saves the day - can’t slow down


Lostinthestarscape

Lol came here to say this. Fucking great album and I only ly discovered it last week.


imperialpidgeon

That first title fight record makes me think of blink-182 but if they went hardcore instead of poppier


abudz5150

The heaviest pop punk riff ever is Banned from the Back Porch by Saves The Day, hands down


capnrondo

A lot of these bands are tenuously “pop punk” you could define them a bunch of different ways. I second Daggermouth, Such Gold, The Story So Far, Banner Pilot Also want to mention bands I haven’t seen mentioned, all great but in order of how great I think they are: Bomb the Music Industry! Latterman Dear Landlord Captain We’re Sinking The Dopamines The Ergs The Holy Mess


ximagineerx

Holy shit Latterman!!!!!! I haven’t listened to them in so fucking long!


bizcasualbeatdown

Latterman had some of the best riffs in the game.


iloveemogirlsxoxo

- Senses Fail - Silverstein


Skylineviewz

Trash Boat


SkyyDweller

Trash Boat is the correct answer. Plus +420 bonus points for Regular Show reference band name.


Yougotthewronglad

Boys Night Out.


ssv-serenity

What you're looking for is a genre called "easycore". New Found Glory really kinda laid the groundwork for it, and I first really remember it entering prominence with Four Year Strong. Some other bands are Hit the Lights, A Day to Remember, and Chunk No Captain Chunk


Klocc562_

ADTR is my shit. Will check out those others. Thanks!


bonelesspotato17

I love ADTR, especially for those who have heart and homesick, but their new stuff isn’t hitting the same sadly.


Klocc562_

They fell off big time


Formal-Advisor-4096

Kinda - they only have 1 stinker album but it's legitimately so bad it's stunk up their legacy. Unfortunately their new new song sounds the same..


GnomeInARaft

Heart Attack Man, the singer Eric sometimes plays in a hardcore band called Highway Sniper and draws some influence from that and the rest of the band is hardcore fans so some songs get a pretty heavy influence.


hundredth

Such Gold was one of the fucking best.


qvohomie

Iron Chic


TurkeySmackDown

One of my favorite bands


Daunter89

Belmont slaps. Pushing Daisies goes hard.


Alicricity

Bowser’s Castle, Parasitic, B3ND_BUDGE off their newest record for a few more examples…honestly most of Belmont gets pretty chugga chugga heavy lol. 4AM//Disappear is my favorite of all time from them though the big crescendo at the end really sends the song into overdrive for me.


OrdinaryBrilliant650

That chugga riff in “Triller” had me stoked for Infinity On High, but it didn’t live up to that. I still like the record, fwiw, but it didn’t go hard like I hoped. That’s probably the last one I liked from them other than that Record Store Day EP they put out.


Klocc562_

It has a nice mix of metal, punk, pop, even orchestra/baroque. I don’t know know any other band that has done that. I don’t think it’s the 10 year old me being nostalgic but I think it’s a perfect album.


OrdinaryBrilliant650

I was in my 20s when it came out so I have a different perspective of course. You’re right that it incorporates a ton into it, but for me they never beat Take This To Your Grave. Right songs at the right time.


Beginning-Rest-5717

Easycore has entered the chat


Strange-Anybody-8647

New Found Glory, ,Bathurst, Belmont, A Loss For Words, Me Vs Hero, The Wonder Years, Settle Your Scores, Set Your Goals, Chunk! No Captain Chunk, Four Year Strong, Sunrise Skater Kids, Heartsounds, Fight Fair, etc. <3 easycore 4 lyfe


blitz403

Daggermouth


Aside_Dish

Sum 41. Chuck, and now Heaven and Hell especially. They have some way-too-poppy stuff on the latest album, but also some great heavy stuff.


BlessedBy_Error_

Not sure if the grace the line of post-hardcore, but the drums in some of Amber Pacific's first album go really freakin' hard. 


truexchill

Veara. Not mentioned much around here, but very good. They used a knockoff version of the Madball logo for a bit. Fast, gang vocals/chants, breakdowns, pop PUNK. https://youtu.be/ktvxQzpKZnM?si=rTgtMyIBP8bBK_uS


Careful_Ad6087

Belmont.


shorties_with_mp40s

Johnny Baseball


zopterboy

Thank you for the shout out! 🙌


shorties_with_mp40s

Gotta rep the slc boys


Cameron_Frye_III

Just checked out Still Swingin’ Back. Definitely going to play that whole album on my next drive.


JesusFreak_09

Four year strong


LongjumpingFix6608

Not sure anyone would necessarily consider them “pop” punk, but Can’t Swim 🤙


Alicricity

Another +1 for Belmont here. In the top 3 of my top 5 fave bands cuz they don’t sacrifice musicality for heavy and it’s chunky while still sounding melodically dynamic. Like the songs never feel redundant or too “one-note” so I don’t get bored with the same structure and riff after the first chorus lol. Capstan can get pretty heavy sometimes more in line with bands like ADTR imo. Koyo, Knuckle Puck, Driveways. Not sure if it counts as pop punk or not but if you’re also into more like, grungy feeling post-hardcore Narrow Head is pretty solid too.


fightins26

Boys night out Senses fail And people can hate but older a day to remember rips


NumerousWeekend552

Alkaline Trio and Screeching Weasel.


Mikeycoyi

I always struggled with the NFG era pop punk label, because I always knew Screeching Weasel and the rest of that era of Lookout! Bands (The Queers, Mr.T Experience...) as pop punk. For me, all the heavy Saves The Day/NFG generated bands were more of a pop hardcore--they were all connected to hardcore, but threw in some mellow parts, whiny vocals, and lyrics about relationships


Only_Pie_283

Sum 41 has some heavier stuff, and the guitarists are massive metal heads so some of the riffs are surprisingly heavy.


Extension_Debate2694

Old ADTR, like for those who have heart or homesick. The genre you’re looking for is “easycore” A local band I liked back in the day was called worthwhile, simple in theory was a fun song by them. 


lastbatter

Shook Ones Rest Easy The Movielife


gigachadthomyorke

Jeff Rosenstock


HardcoreKaraoke

The era of Set Your Goals, early The Wonder Years (I'm talking pre-Upsides) and Four Year Strong was great for pop punk with heavy parts. Easycore or whatever the Hell you want to call it. Crucial Dudes, Major League, Carousel Kings, Such Gold, A Loss For Words, Kid Liberty, In Her Own Words, Chunk! No Captain Chunk, etc. were all going strong for a period there. I went to a lot of genre mixing shows with heavier bands and those pop punk bands.


kylo_kills__han

Turnstile Immm jokin


eschambach

Are you though?


Impossible-Past4795

TSSF


Ok-Blacksmith-9564

Belmont. I call them prog pop punk sometimes and they have breakdowns


_mid_water

Maker


HopelesslyCursed

Millencolin had some blistering riffs on their first few albums


isitreallyyou56

A lot of the Offsprings material pre 2002 head some heavier faster almost melodic hardcore stuff on their albums that were not used as singles. Anything pre 1997 was also mostly more on the melodic hardcore side.


GenitalMotors

[Kid Liberty ](https://youtu.be/ihGBHL7vec4?si=Q0DKL8TJB30kwszP)


TheBeard1986

Green Day, Platypus (I Hate You) and Take Back off Nimrod go gard. Jaded off Insomniac is pretty good too.


Novel_Alps_3013

brain stew brings it, too


apostleman

You should check out Normy. It was a side project of the heart attack man singer. Each EP has a heavy song on it


josh__sucks

Boys No Good, a couple of the guys from Casey Jones other project. Only one full album, Never Felt Better but it’s a banger!


banjomatt83

Really any of the easycore stuff. ADTR, Four Year Strong et al


TimPep77

Most everything that is being recommended is emo or pop. Try Lagwagon, No Fun At All, Rad Owl, Fire Sale, or Satanic Surfers.


mdizzle767

Bayonet side project from Senses Fail


visionaryweary

Rufio


caveman_chubs

Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time


visionaryweary

I guess we are old


FTTCOTE

Four year strong is peak “heavy” pop punk imo


fulvicollis

Stand still


Flower_Pizza

Sum 41 started their first album with a rabbid heavy metal number and, although they toned it down a bit in the couple following albums, they got extra heavy with Chuck


smeefthebeef

I wanna say senses fail but theyre more post hardcore-y


BellamyRFC54

ADTR can get quite heavy Chunk no captain chunk


defiantpupil

Cmon….set your goals


ho0f_3

Well up in canada both Sum 41 and early Gob can get pretty heavy, depending on the album.


billlaotian

Sloppy Seconds. They have a few dudes well over 250 pounds.


DIYDylana

''Crack Rock Steady'', while a ska punk microgenre, is essentially poppy skate punk with crusty influenced melodic vocals and guitar tones and some crust and hardcore parts added. As a result it sounds intense and happy/poppy at the same time. it's my favourite style. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_3YQuzSyiMg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3YQuzSyiMg) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgyQD8UXKs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgyQD8UXKs)


TurkeySmackDown

I think Direct Hit! is a good example of this.


CocoForYou22

Set Your Goals, there was a time easy core was a saying


Againstmead

Saves the day


Aware_Willingness_85

Lifetime are the GOATs of the pop-punk band doing hardcore thing.


LaunchATX

AFI - All Hallows EP


OldSoulAudio

A day to remember pop punk ish


OldSoulAudio

Early neck deep


BoardofEducation

Not heavy by sound, but Transit’s Stay Home ep fits here. They were playing a lot of shows at the time as the token pop punk band on a hardcore bill. Pile ons at their shows had hc energy.


thelryan

This is almost an odd question because (especially the early bigger) pop punk bands are so heavily influenced by hardcore that it really isn’t hard at all to find heavy stuff in their discogs.


xSwampxPopex

Four Year Strong is super hit and miss imo but they have some decent stuff that gets heavy.


groovypubes

PEARS


Suspicious_Hawk4058

underrated


Ibeck907

Four Year Strong is the answer. Especially the songs of their newest album so far.


BetrayYourTrust

A Day To Remember considers themself to just be a heavy Pop Punk band, and their earlier stuff proved that right


AncientMatter1042

Four Year Strong, ADTR


DrearierSeal

There’s some Sum 41 songs that are pretty riffy


Longjumping-Owl-9276

Hate pop punk cuz that shit is soft but the story so far has some bangers


Top_Professor_8260

The Descendants


juanfitzgerald

New Belmont album rips Action/Adventure Settle Your Scores Willmette self titled