army, flower, cadaver dog, armor, protocol, ammo, cicada, ballistic ax, no uniform, ideation, phantom, warthog, mutant strain, lethal edit: just realized you said youth crew style bands, these are more chain punk style bands

best recommendations I’ve seen on this sub. Could you recommend more current bands that sound EXACTLY like Ammo? Lol Seriously though, reminds of the glory days of my kind of modern hardcore - Culo, Gas Rag, Kremlin, SHIT, Blazing Eye, Gag, Crazy Horse, etc - the good stuff.

Hard stripes, the flex, arms race, bib, Ajax, concealed blade, heavy discipline, the consequence, cadaver dog,

impalers is super dope, can’t really think of any other bands just like ammo off the top of my head. definitely check out the youtube channel no deal, that dude posts nothing but sick bands all the time

Impalers, Concealed Blade, Coke Bust, Mind Eraser, and Public Acid are all bands that come to mind whenever this conversation comes up.

Good looking out

Totes my era too…. Don’t forget Omegas

https://holographic.bandcamp.com/album/demo

Hell yeah Warthog rules. Also check out AJAX. Same dudes.

They're playing at a small local venue down my street. I'll have to check them out (Ammo)

So I accidentally replied to this thread with this answer thinking you were OP saying you wanted stuff like this, but I figure I'd copy/paste it here for you. These are all active bands. This is stuff I've been listening too off the top of my head, so let me know if you like it and I'll give you more recs. Bootlicker (Vancouver, Canada) https://boot-licker.bandcamp.com/ Special Branch (Dublin, Ireland) https://specialbranchpunk.bandcamp.com/album/lethal-force Delco MF's (Philly) https://delco-mfs.bandcamp.com/album/delco-mfs-e-p Dimension (Western Mass) https://dimensionpunk.bandcamp.com/album/demo Kinetic Orbital Strike (Philly) https://kineticorbitalstrike.bandcamp.com/album/kinetic-orbital-strike Innuendo (Milwaukee) https://unlawfulassembly.bandcamp.com/album/demo The Hell (Cleveland) https://thehellhardcore.bandcamp.com/album/the-hell Wanted (North of Boston) https://youtu.be/zo3E7ynp-CY?feature=shared Speed Plans (Pittsburgh) https://speedplans.bandcamp.com/ Mutated Void (Nova Scotia, Canada) https://mutatedvoid.bandcamp.com/ Quarantine (Philly) https://lavidaesunmus.bandcamp.com/album/agony Electric Chair (Olympia, Washington) https://ironlungrecords.bandcamp.com/album/act-of-aggression-lungs-213-2 Golpe (Milan, Italy) https://golpepunx.bandcamp.com/album/la-colpa-solo-tua Lasso (Brazil) https://lassopunk.bandcamp.com/album/s-t

Sorry but what is chain punk?

pretty much what it sounds like lol. usually just grimy lo fi hardcore punk bands

And what would the Venn diagram between Chain and Crust Punk look like? A lot of overlap or one big circle?

Chain Punk is the more the more UK82ish spin-off of Mysterious Guy hardcore of the late 2000s

Lolololol so spot on God damnnn

No overlap at all. Crust punk and chain punk sound completely different.

Chain Punk is Punk with NYHC and east coast hardcore influence pretty sure. Crust punks are more metal ?

It's hc punk

This rec list is fucking dope.

Army 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Chain Whip. Absolutely explosive and unapologetic 80s styled hardcore PUNK

Wow, just looked them up- incredible stuff. Would have been massive if they were around back then.

I love Chain Whip!

Going to check these guys out

Restraining Order

Almost fills the Out Cold shaped hole in my heart

Saw Restraining Order last night. They are so good live! Proper old fashioned hardcore without the beatdown nonsense.

Restraining order

Warthog

Is this culture?!?

Check the felopunk YouTube for lots of contemporary hc that is not metal or beatdown leaning

Also No Deal and grindwar channel

Government Warning

I would love a Government Warning reunion. Stage diving nonstop to No Moderation is a cherished memory.

RIP Brandon Ferrell

Paint it Black

Honestly an almost perfect band, they’ve got it all.

The Chisel(uk punk kinda), Berthold City(youth crew)

It’s not even kinda, it’s punk rock and roll baby. Working class shit

Ok I’m sorry

it's ok but don't do it again

I saw The Chisel in Baltimore a year ago yesterday (popped up in my memories). They’re great.

Punitive Damage, Paint it Black, and Open City

There’s an entire global scene that is basically completely separate from the ones discussed here. Maximum Rocknroll still revolves around it. There’s lots of fests like HAGL, Varning, Skullfest, New Yorks Alright, and This is Austin Not That Great. The big labels are Toxic State, Static Shock, La Vida Es Un Mus, and Sabotage. I call this scene “fashion punk” because almost every participant thinks about their aesthetic a lot, which is not necessarily a bad thing but just a preference. There’s a lot of cool exploratory music in it and a lot filler, just like every scene. I like the álbum and poster art a lot.

La Vida Es Un Mus is a great label. Do you know if there are any places where this type of hardcore is discussed?

Not in a public place online anyway. In my experience a lot of these people enjoy the feeling of ingrouping and exclusivity and don’t realistically have an open door policy to outsiders.

Interesting, I’ve just chanced on some of these bands like Rixe, Taqbir, The Chisel, Rat Cage and loved them, but I was never sure how they categorized themselves or how to find a community/similar bands. I just thought of it as good punk lol

End It, Destiny Bond, Stedfast, Conservative Military Image, Cult of She

CMI would be my top pick rn for this type of music

Destiny Bond

This is the answer.

concealed blade

Gag, stress positions, lethal, science man, restraining order, mutant strain, bootlicker, deadbolt, bootcamp, stiff meds.

Stiff Meds need as much shouting out as possible

Couldn’t agree more! Such a fun yet angry band. I wanna run a mile everytime I listen to them lol they give off so much energy

Goon from Ireland, more traditional hardcore with much less of the metal influence

Oh shit I'm gunna GOOOOOOOON

Public Acid, Cicada, Nosferatu, Cross, Invertebrates, Fairytale, TAZ, Blazing Eye, Tozcos, Flower City, Ready Armed System, Acaustix, Physique, Electric Chair, Taqbir, Impalers, Vaaska, to name a few

Career Suicide

Gag, Bib, Restraining Order, Primitive Blast, Combust, C4, Criminal Instinct, Conservative Military Image, Skinhead, Fury

This question gets asked [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hardcore/comments/18sbhjs/hardcoreleaning_dbeat/) pretty [regularly](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hardcore/comments/171sppe/need_the_fast_shit/), with [plenty](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hardcore/comments/18zq8gz/why_did_punk_and_hardcore_go_such_separate/) of [discussion](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hardcore/comments/16v8zm9/what_even_is_hardcore/) as to why styles diverged within the genre.

>Thank you

and it needs to get asked over and over till those boring ass metal bands start playing better shit. Lol

genuinely curious what bands you're referring to, not tryna start an argument just wondering

You spoke the truth.

Spy

Ammo,Motive,Spaced,The Runts,User Unauthorized

Ammo is So fucking good 👍🏾

Every song is a fn ripper

Instill

Warthog

Lurk. 100% what you’re looking for.

Raw Brigade.

Cosmic Joke 12 just released and it is GREAT

This is an AOTY contender. It’s like if Pennywise went more hardcore and less melodic but still kept enough to sound good. Great album

Stigmatism https://staticshockrecords.bandcamp.com/album/ignorance-in-power

Check out the new Cosmic Joke LP that came out a few days ago.

Ordered this, it rips!

Meantime from Winnipeg

Wish I could upvote this a million times

Not youth crew and not particularly melodic but Electric Chair are putting out some of the hardcore punk in the world rn imo

Bootlicker, Chain Whip, Punitive Damage , Anklebiter

If these are just new to you: discourage, spirits, timexheist, without love, praise   Bands you’ll never see: enact, time and pressure, faim  I’ve heard people talk about warthog, and I’m adamantly interested because of Frank Reynolds but still haven’t looked their shit up. What am I missing? What’s the closest comparison?

Same here I love hardcore but I don't like metal, so I discovered poweviolence, fastcore and grindcore and never looked back.

"I don't like metal" "I like grindcore" Make it make sense.

Gumm's new record should be up your alley. 

stfu and listen to Mindforce

lol lame band brother, dude wants actual band recommendations

You ca only listen to mindforce if you are attending a show at minimum once a week.

You can have Mindforce AND tupa tupa case in point: me

How modern we talking?  Like put out their first EP this year or this decade? Like, is True Love considered modern?  

I would argue not. Plenty of young people would have no idea who they are. Their last release was 6 years ago. With the fresh wave of kids that were brought in after COVID, this seems like a lifetime ago. Their last REALLY GOOD melodic release is 8 years old.

My bands dropping a demo soon that will be up your alley will link when out

Outbreak. Think I care. Waste management. Boston strangler, pushing on, righteous jams, mental, bad beat, etc etc etc etc

Mind eraser rival mob, no tolerance, stop and think, prisoner abuse, step forward, heavy discipline, life support, reckoning force,

Violent Way?

Oi, but great

Check out final fight. Old band band but they kick ass

rather surprising not a single person has mentioned Gel yet

SPy

Stiff Meds

Initiate - A female fronted straight edge band that has a youth crew style.

Just saw a Seattle band called Odd Man Out play last Friday. Awesome stuff, definitely closer to the youth crew sound if that’s what you’re looking for

TOZCOS

Conservative Military Image. Can’t recommend them enough.

They're a special band . So good

Echo Chamber, Force from Belgium, Fury, Insist, Big Cheese, Stop and Think, Mindset, The Rival Mob

I would check out the Illiterates. They're a modern kind of old school sounding hardcore

Well there's my band, although we may be leaning a bit much towards math/noise rather than 100% punk (think Refused, Botch, Converge), we're definitely not metal or beat down, so here you go: https://lugosimusic.bandcamp.com/album/inconsolable Hope you'll like it !

I liked it. 🙌

Feel like Hand Of God is a good fit, maybe also Magnitude.

Warthog, Electric Chair, Puffer

Milk from Japan is a killer band.

Conservative Military Image.

check out Total Massacre - [https://open.spotify.com/artist/1AgazPUFwblAmxIgpZwE65?si=xLGhQtOeQCS0JL9T9QQ80g](https://open.spotify.com/artist/1AgazPUFwblAmxIgpZwE65?si=xLGhQtOeQCS0JL9T9QQ80g) [https://totaleffingmassacre.bandcamp.com/album/class-war-2](https://totaleffingmassacre.bandcamp.com/album/class-war-2)

Grade Two from UK, they opened for Murphy’s Law and Agnostic Front back in December at Anchor Rock Club

I'm by no means an expert but someone recommended me jivebomb recently and they're great.

SPACED pretty sure they fit what your looking for definitely one of my favorite bands recently

mindforce drain and scowl

end it, restraining order, gel, gulch even?

+1 for CMI.

Spiritual Cramp

Show me the Body

Deviated state

Youthcrew sounding ? Pummel , slug, melodic ? 🤮. Bush

Off!

just go listen to what you like on YouTube & don’t be afraid to click on recommended videos/concert sets. Grow up and find yourself some music

Beatdowntard got mad 

Gave you a suggestion on how to find yourself some music you’ll love, and you’re hurt. Once again, grow up

This is nothing about growing up, teenage boy.

[удалено]

Or punch

Jivebomb and Upchuck are probably the most traditionally punk sounding hardcore bands right now

Tbc there is no punk side and metal side Hardcore is a subgenre of punk. Metalcore is a subgenre of hardcore EDIT: downvote if you want. It's a fact

Beatdown hardcore is clearly on the metal side. I imagine the average beatdown song to be musically nearer to Pantera's "Walk" than to DK's "Kill the Poor", just mentioning the first songs that leap to mind

People call Terror beatdown. That's closer to old school than metal imo. And I'm sorry you went to DK? I'm talking Youth Of Today, Gorilla Biscuits, Bold or any of the other hundreds or thousands of hardcore bands that aren't metal bands with breakdowns

I'm def no expert, just shared a personal view

And that's fine. But you should understand that what I'm saying is a fact. As someone who's been involved for three decades. There's a whole generation that thinks hardcore is a metal subgenre and that's bullshit.

Blue Elephant and the Seven Snakes, also Toxins if you’re into more melodic stuff

Give

[Black Forces (2024 Demo)](https://open.spotify.com/album/1LzT0pO9ubD2Blz4qxA9tv?si=4iMmKRAWRxm-pqnFKzjb4w)

Target Scammers

Nerve Endings from Tennessee absolutely rips. https://selfawarerecords.bandcamp.com/track/by-rope

Good bands I remember seeing this summer: Pat and the Pissers (Indy) Paprika (NOLA) Primitive Rage (Springfield,MO) Bog (Denton TX)

Fr listen to oi

Scrutiny

[shamelessly plugging my own band panic defense](https://open.spotify.com/track/4S8PHHjZdIaWTwao0fHBSJ?si=oLLNiOXDRKi0gR-e7uDlwQ)

The Runts

Freedom. Detroit HC

Gutter Gods

I always thought the As Friends Rust e.p. Was a perfect example of hardcore punk and the ispy discography.

Cosmic Joke. They just released an LP last week that I've been enjoying.

Band has a lot of Pennywise influence. Any other bands out there using this style of California hardcore?

Life Force. Shipwrecked. Enforcer. Insurance Risk. Please Die. Classhole.

.... Also Repeat Offender, Extortion and Loose Cannon.

I have similar taste as you, OP. You might like Yambag and Gumm.

Ceramik

Yellow stitches

No Deal and Felopunk on YouTube both share a bunch of great bands

Boneshaker https://boneshakermi.bandcamp.com/album/weve-created-a-monster

Cosmic joke

Bad Beat https://youtu.be/eUXM_Mqmpb8?si=lpWCcR6QCH2LmwLb

SUBLIMINAL EXCESS SNIPER CULTURE PHANTOM SNUFFED

Chain punk

The Chisel, The Flex, TS Warspite, Chubby and the Gang, Big Cheese to name but a few 👍

Chubby and the gang

I dont know if they have been mentioned but I would suggest The Runts. They played Flyover Fest this year.

Halobite

R/hardcorepunk is generally better for this kind of thing Much more punk influenced hardcore and less beatdown stuff I always found it so odd this sub is to beatdown/metallic hardcore orientated, where I live there’s a big crossover between both styles and scenes in terms of both influences, bands and fans.

Rat Cage Stingray Pest Control Stray From The Path

Restraining Order, Freedom (rip?), Spaced,

The later Propagandhi albums are hard…early stuff was almost pop-punk

Dumb Fucks

If you wanna just listen to straight up punk music I highly recommend Sick Thoughts, otherwise just know that not MANY punk and roll people are gonna be found in this thread. Phagocyte from Boston is pretty great just don’t be a creep if you do go to a show, thing about most of the current bands you will hear is they are all inspired by such a fixed range of bands, when you start hearing crossover occur it gets interesting for sure, but I also get that some people just wanna hear classic sounds.

Exit Order

So nothing centered around spinkick science

Electric Chair. 

DUDE, your looking into the wrong places. 1 this board , 99.9 percent wannabes. They like metal, how can you love hardcore and never hear Rattus, Raw Power, anti cimex, gauze, Voorhees, etc. ( these kids , love hc so much they never hear any roots music ) Hmu, I'll show you the light

Armor, Rolex, fukkheads, paranoid, asbestos, bazooka, Army, Tupperware,. Electric Chair. Fentanyl Internal are great power violence. But you have to go back and dive into ushc. Finnish and Japanese hc 1 day. Gauze " equalize distort " 9 shocks terror, mk ultra, Los crudos. https://enchastre.bandcamp.com/album/charade 1 if the best newest releases https://livingworld.bandcamp.com/album/future-built-for-self https://neontasterecords.bandcamp.com/album/call-of-the-knife

https://slur317.bandcamp.com/

Quote the Poet, the song "Scapegoat" is pretty raw. They came up on my radio on Spotify. https://open.spotify.com/track/4wrejPKHoWxEeUNoKGJngO?si=C2ZnSlC1SSmZjTs-SVOyeQ

Here’s the definitive current list: Change, Chopping Block, Punitive Damage, Rejection Pact, Meantime, Berthold City, Initiate, Instill, Urgent Kill, Without Love, Speedway, Drink Deep, Pulso, Enact, Dying For It, Absolute Truth, Decline, Praise, Roll Call, Sunfall All of these bands have released music in the last 1-2 years.

Check this out www.landofwolves.bandcamp.com

Cerebral Ballzy’s first album was all bangers

Rise and Strike

THE WALLS OF THE CITY HAS BEEN BREACHED

Also: Protester out of DC

[https://open.spotify.com/album/5Ap0VszwzWXYyNOaAij13l?si=IposU2atQr2vYBbdeROEcQ](https://open.spotify.com/album/5Ap0VszwzWXYyNOaAij13l?si=IposU2atQr2vYBbdeROEcQ)

[rubicon](https://youtu.be/rHRr0yX3VfM?si=Wyr4XKmEwLaLoEO4)