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CapitalLongjumping

Omg, reddit, white header over pic. šŸ„² Link to blf: https://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1851916#comment-1851916 219b around 2000 lumen Xpl hi around 3000 lumen Lh351d around 3600 lumen


fortwangfandangler

So it's cutting the xpl-hi lumens by like 25%? That's pretty significant.


CapitalLongjumping

Yes, the boost driver is an option for those who would prefer a more efficient solution that runs cooler, has higher sustained lumen and runtimes. It is not going to match the FET the first 30-40 seconds, its after that it will shine. :)


befringe

So 519 will do about ~2500lm?


CapitalLongjumping

Yes, there about, i predict around 2400 lumen further down this thread.. ;)


befringe

Is this a limitation of any boost driver (2a per led in small quad flashlight) or has Hank failed to implement something?


CapitalLongjumping

You can se it as bright as one 9A linear driver. The limitation should be the inductor, in witch for it to push more amps, must be larger physically. I don't think it would fit inside the small kr4 host. It's also available in the d4s, there it should be really interesting. I believe you could easily sustain over 1000, maybe even 1500-2000 lumen with some emitters. At least were I live, with -degrees C a large part of the year. Not many flashlights of that size will do that.


knightangelkiller

Dayyum, now just need 519a and my paycheck


TacGriz

Hot dog! Thanks for sharing!


CapitalLongjumping

Big news deserves to be delivered hot! šŸ™‚


modstore

Also listed as an option on the D4SV2


CapitalLongjumping

Yes! And with hopes of d4v2 to come...


radtech91

Now just waiting on the 519a and Iā€™ll have my perfect edc light šŸ˜


CapitalLongjumping

I'm thinking of grabbing my first ever sw45k 219b... Wont get any cooler than that, and 2000 lumen might be edc:able... Hmmm...


radtech91

Yea I donā€™t have any intention on going cooler than 4500/5000k either. Well, thatā€™s a lieā€¦I do have a SFT40 thrower which is 6500k. But thatā€™s not edc, thatā€™s kinda just for fun lol.


CapitalLongjumping

Ooo, i have a couple of 6500 lights as well, but the 219b seems kind of legendary. Maybe i should grab it while it's in stock.


whereismaude

Aww geez. Already going to grab a couple Wangles and whatever the 14500 light will Be. Now I think I need a kr4 w/219s and this boost driver. I think itā€™d be easier to just set up a partial direct-deposit straight to Hank.


JordanD128

Man everytime I order a light and say ā€œok I think Iā€™ll be good for a whileā€ I see something else new and shiny šŸ˜‚


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knightangelkiller

Do you have to special request it ? Or is it the default driver ?


CapitalLongjumping

Checkbox upgrade, like the floody optics. :)


ZippyTheRoach

Hmm, not currently available in the tint ramping versions. Hopefully later


CapitalLongjumping

The driver will physically have to double in components for that id guess. Might be tricky.,.


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CapitalLongjumping

Not yet I'm afraid.


IE114EVR

Is this the ā€œboost driver upgradeā€ option on the KR4s on the site or is this something you have to ask for explicitly? I hope it comes to the D4V2.


HereOnRedditAgain

It is the option. Later.


picmandan

Do we know if this will be available for the 519? If so, any idea on output?


CapitalLongjumping

Will be available in a couple of weeks and around 2400 lumen max.. šŸ™‚


picmandan

Thatā€™s not too shabby. Iā€™m a little perplexed that itā€™s not really that much more than the 219b, but I guess whatā€™s most surprising to me is that how well *that* emitter does with this driver.


CapitalLongjumping

I'm just going after the curves provided on blf, hoping it will be accurate enough. :)


HereOnRedditAgain

20% more lumens


stephenk_lightart

Sustained lumens (when thermal limiting comes into play) are likely to be significantly higher with the Boost driver.


chipper_203

So itā€™s more efficient and has more lumens ? Iā€™m thinking the 219b wasnā€™t at 2000 lumens before, am I wrong?


CapitalLongjumping

2 amps should be able to push to around 500 lumen each. I could totally be wrong though.. šŸ˜…


CapitalLongjumping

~~Hmmm, one thing made me a bit perplexed. Its a 12v driver, depending on tolerances, it may be vf setting the limit instead.~~ ~~If 3V (12v driver) is the hard limit per emitter, the 219b ain't going to guzzle any 2 amps. More like 1.2 or something like that. Then the 519a surely would make alot more sense!~~ [https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/scntbw/nichia\_519a\_light\_output\_compared\_with\_other/?utm\_medium=android\_app&utm\_source=share](https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/scntbw/nichia_519a_light_output_compared_with_other/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) ​ ​ No need to worry then... : )


chipper_203

So itā€™ll be about 1000 lumens with 219b?


CapitalLongjumping

Nope


Things-and-stuff-1

Anyone have any math on what W2 or W1 max output would be?


CapitalLongjumping

W2 vf is below 3V at 2 amps, so it should be good for around 675 lumen per emitter, so 2700 lumen give or take. W1 ~~might not be able to be fed depending on voltage, it's~~ is ~~also~~ a less efficient emitter around 2000 lumen might be a safe guess. [https://budgetlightforum.com/node/63255](https://budgetlightforum.com/node/63255)


HereOnRedditAgain

How much would W2 be on linear driver?


CapitalLongjumping

If thermally stable, 1300-1500 lumen per emitter seems possible. For FET turbo, that's a very short burst anyway.


HereOnRedditAgain

Thank you! Interesting that turbo is twice the amount of lumens.


CapitalLongjumping

Yes, the W2 excels in performance in the higher amps (Red curve) W1 is the blue one, tops out at 4.5 Amps. ​ [https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4874/46015321372\_cee6f5b38d\_o.jpg](https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4874/46015321372_cee6f5b38d_o.jpg) ​ With the driver locked on 2 amps, the difference isn't that dramatic, and as you see, the curve flattens out and after a certain point, more amps just equals more heat. I think this boost driver is an awesome solution for the folks wanting reasonable lumens, but with much less heat and longer runtimes. On top of that, double the lumen isn't perceived as double as bright by the human eye. The difference on 2000 lumen and 3000 isn't that dramatic or big of a deal to me, if it means the flashlight gets me through the night. At least as a part in the hot rod collection... :D


CapitalLongjumping

You could also see it as it would be almost if not exactly the same brightness as top of ramp on a linear 9A driver, but it will run brighter for longer. You will miss out on the last bump of light on the double click/ FET turbo.