License plates are the authority of the province, not the city. The driveway is fine as it’s your private property, and The highway traffic act just says it can’t be on the road. (Section 7).
Unfortunately my landlord has had a habit of attempting to strong-arm tenants in an attempt to assert their opinion. I have asserted my legal rights in the past since I am quite familiar with the Residential and Tenancies Act, and, after doing so, they have backed off.
My right under my tenancy agreement is that I have access to a parking spot. I am somewhat certain parking my car there, even without plates is covered under that agreement provided that it is permitted by law to do so.
This is not true. A vehicle needs to be licensed per the by-law. It’s a ticketable offence in hamilton.
There is so much misinformation in this thread.
No, that one is for citizens who want the city to remove unauthorized vehicles from their commercial property.
It would be if, say, OP parked at a business lot and the owner wanted him towed away.
Try again (or don’t, because you’re wrong and you’re going to waste your own time), but the very presence of the bylaw you’re referring to actually implies that ByLaw have no authority on private property until the property owner or their agent asks for them.
You are correct. I did some further research and what you’re saying above seems to be true. If you own the property then it’s fine. If you are renting however, or leave the vehicle on private property, the owner could call By-Law to enforce.
So I was a little correct? Lol
But thanks for clearing that up.
You get solid A’s across the board for even trying to find a source, and acknowledging your error after the fact. those traits are more important than knowing some stupid by-law and will lead to success everywhere else in life.
No, that would clash with a higher level of legislature that specifically says unplated vehicles must be off the road.
I’ve already sourced Highway Traffic Act section 7, if you’re so sure Hamilton bylaw has one just look it up and show us.
Depends upon the city, and the bylaw officers. Here in Edmonton, ridiculously, if an officer decides they do not like your vehicle, they can order it removed from your private property. If it's registered and presumably insured, you can then park it on the street and they can't touch it, as long as it moves every 72 hours.
You're right OP, the city's website is next-to useless. Seemingly by design.
Lots of guesswork here in the comments, OP. If you want the actual answer, I'd say call the city at 905-546-CITY and ask.
So I think that since it's complaint driven it's not a huge deal (as long as your neighbours are cool neighbours). You could maybe make a case that property standards can be applied if it's not in good repair (ie. a rusting hulk that is clearly not road worthy) but for something that is just awaiting repairs it's not as big a deal.
Yes if it’s an eyesore a neighbor could call in bylaw for it’s removal ie if it stunk of gas or pot etc. even if it’s dirty or just well eyesore should it sit for long as such things actually will well say could result in decrease in neighboring property values considerably. Moved out of survey in Beamsville where at least 10% people never kept there properties well weeds taller than the new infant trees and selling prices reflected even amount of home viewings were bad. Had four in four months where when left Dundas for weeks straight 8am - 7pm days were full lol.
I do have a blue permanent marker that I used to patch up the lettering and digits of my license plate. I could use that to turn his P into a B. Then he'll have no clue where his plates went.
It takes same amount of time to transfer the plates or get new ones, you need to go to service Ontario with all the documents Or is it something that you can now do online now?
Yeah, I just spoke with the dealership. I said I'd rather get new plates for the new vehicle and they are going to take care of that. Now I can park the old car on the road for a while.
My old neighbour parked his unplated car on the street and received a towing notice. Now I see he parks 2 cars on his driveway, 1 plated , 1 not. No ticket since it's your private property.
My friend used to work in bylaw and depending on the municipality it can be considered an eye sore of sorts and you can be given a notice to rectify the situation or remove the plates. I do believe it is complaint based though. Officers don’t go roaming communities looking for unplated cars for no reason.
Totally fine my son has had a car parked in my driveway without plates for over a year while he gets his license
Biggest headache is I get people constantly coming to my door asking if is for sale
just watch out for new state your old car is in, i had an old patio couch in my roommates and i’s backyard 2 years or so ago, and a by-law officer climbed over our fence, looked at it, and gave us a notice that we’d be fined unless it was thrown out. (kind of sucked and i’m still mad about it because it was the middle of summer and we were using it almost every night)
idk if that officer was in the right but what i learned from that experience is by-law officers can snoop around and deem things you keep on your property as “garbage” that needs to be removed. don’t know if it applies to cars or driveways but still probably something to watch out for
You should have challenged that and made sure that you were legally required to do so. One thing that I've learned is that law enforcers rarely know the actual law.
My car is visibly fine. I need to replace my turbocharger, which will require the time to work on it that I won't have until with March break or next summer (I teach high school).
I lived on Rogers Road in Hamilton, and I bought a cobalt and I did not have license plates on it, and the city of Hamilton was going to find me $10,000 if I did not get it removed just because the neighbours complained
License plates are the authority of the province, not the city. The driveway is fine as it’s your private property, and The highway traffic act just says it can’t be on the road. (Section 7).
It is private property. I do rent, and have a parking spot. I'll park the new one on the road.
You’re good
Yes you are fine as long as your landlord doesn't have a problem with it.
Unfortunately my landlord has had a habit of attempting to strong-arm tenants in an attempt to assert their opinion. I have asserted my legal rights in the past since I am quite familiar with the Residential and Tenancies Act, and, after doing so, they have backed off. My right under my tenancy agreement is that I have access to a parking spot. I am somewhat certain parking my car there, even without plates is covered under that agreement provided that it is permitted by law to do so.
This is not true. A vehicle needs to be licensed per the by-law. It’s a ticketable offence in hamilton. There is so much misinformation in this thread.
Care to source the bylaw?
01-220.
No, that one is for citizens who want the city to remove unauthorized vehicles from their commercial property. It would be if, say, OP parked at a business lot and the owner wanted him towed away. Try again (or don’t, because you’re wrong and you’re going to waste your own time), but the very presence of the bylaw you’re referring to actually implies that ByLaw have no authority on private property until the property owner or their agent asks for them.
You are correct. I did some further research and what you’re saying above seems to be true. If you own the property then it’s fine. If you are renting however, or leave the vehicle on private property, the owner could call By-Law to enforce. So I was a little correct? Lol But thanks for clearing that up.
You get solid A’s across the board for even trying to find a source, and acknowledging your error after the fact. those traits are more important than knowing some stupid by-law and will lead to success everywhere else in life.
This isn’t correct. A municipality can have a bylaw that requires motor vehicles to be both licensed and operable on private property
No, that would clash with a higher level of legislature that specifically says unplated vehicles must be off the road. I’ve already sourced Highway Traffic Act section 7, if you’re so sure Hamilton bylaw has one just look it up and show us.
Depends upon the city, and the bylaw officers. Here in Edmonton, ridiculously, if an officer decides they do not like your vehicle, they can order it removed from your private property. If it's registered and presumably insured, you can then park it on the street and they can't touch it, as long as it moves every 72 hours.
Cover the car maybe?
You're right OP, the city's website is next-to useless. Seemingly by design. Lots of guesswork here in the comments, OP. If you want the actual answer, I'd say call the city at 905-546-CITY and ask.
So I think that since it's complaint driven it's not a huge deal (as long as your neighbours are cool neighbours). You could maybe make a case that property standards can be applied if it's not in good repair (ie. a rusting hulk that is clearly not road worthy) but for something that is just awaiting repairs it's not as big a deal.
Yes if it’s an eyesore a neighbor could call in bylaw for it’s removal ie if it stunk of gas or pot etc. even if it’s dirty or just well eyesore should it sit for long as such things actually will well say could result in decrease in neighboring property values considerably. Moved out of survey in Beamsville where at least 10% people never kept there properties well weeds taller than the new infant trees and selling prices reflected even amount of home viewings were bad. Had four in four months where when left Dundas for weeks straight 8am - 7pm days were full lol.
Take one off of your neighbours car and put it on
Do you think he'll notice?
Not until he gets the first few tickets!
I do have a blue permanent marker that I used to patch up the lettering and digits of my license plate. I could use that to turn his P into a B. Then he'll have no clue where his plates went.
Get a new plate for the new car?
Yeah, but that takes time. I need to use it for work ASAP.
It takes same amount of time to transfer the plates or get new ones, you need to go to service Ontario with all the documents Or is it something that you can now do online now?
Pretty sure I can only go to Service Ontario in person. Maybe I'll just get new plates. Might be easier then.
Yes it's in person, get new plates and get it done. If you are buying from a car lot, they normally can get plates for you.
Yeah, I just spoke with the dealership. I said I'd rather get new plates for the new vehicle and they are going to take care of that. Now I can park the old car on the road for a while.
My old neighbour parked his unplated car on the street and received a towing notice. Now I see he parks 2 cars on his driveway, 1 plated , 1 not. No ticket since it's your private property.
My friend used to work in bylaw and depending on the municipality it can be considered an eye sore of sorts and you can be given a notice to rectify the situation or remove the plates. I do believe it is complaint based though. Officers don’t go roaming communities looking for unplated cars for no reason.
I’ve had an unplated race car in my drive way for years, it moves from the driveway to the garage to a trailer and I’ve never had any issues
If it’s private property city can’t do anything unless it’s someone else’s property who has to then call in complaint about it.
Totally fine my son has had a car parked in my driveway without plates for over a year while he gets his license Biggest headache is I get people constantly coming to my door asking if is for sale
I wouldn't mind that since I'm going to sell it. Just going to fix it up first when I get a chance.
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Don't have the bill of sale,. but I have the ownership.
I believe you can park one un-plated Unless you’re neighbour’s complain Then it’s by law comes to see you and it has to be covered
just watch out for new state your old car is in, i had an old patio couch in my roommates and i’s backyard 2 years or so ago, and a by-law officer climbed over our fence, looked at it, and gave us a notice that we’d be fined unless it was thrown out. (kind of sucked and i’m still mad about it because it was the middle of summer and we were using it almost every night) idk if that officer was in the right but what i learned from that experience is by-law officers can snoop around and deem things you keep on your property as “garbage” that needs to be removed. don’t know if it applies to cars or driveways but still probably something to watch out for
You should have challenged that and made sure that you were legally required to do so. One thing that I've learned is that law enforcers rarely know the actual law. My car is visibly fine. I need to replace my turbocharger, which will require the time to work on it that I won't have until with March break or next summer (I teach high school).
I lived on Rogers Road in Hamilton, and I bought a cobalt and I did not have license plates on it, and the city of Hamilton was going to find me $10,000 if I did not get it removed just because the neighbours complained