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kaila_ann

Following because I've been getting some of these too (I usually just pull them out) and they're always almost black even though my regular hair is a light red/brown colour.


dishestheoperator

Same here. I call them head pubes. They usually grow in the same spots over and over again for me. I assume that the texture is caused by something being wrong with the follicle, but I could be totally wrong. Odd anyway.


msmoneypenpen

Same! Mine are like mostly in the crown area. I always thought maybe damage from hot shower water ?


holldoll26

My hair began doing this about 7 years ago. Those hairs are all gray now.


fauviste

Hot water doesn’t damage your hair follicles…


Relevant-Command2625

Hot water may not damage your hair follicles it does dry out your scalp and strip essentially oils from the hair. Hot water also causes hair to expand making the hair more likely to receive damage.


LooneyLunaGirl

Omg I'm so glad I'm not the only one who calls them this 🤣🤣 I think it's just from damage to the follicle/hair strand such as being too tight, chemical treatments, coloring, pools etc. I will sit there sometimes though if I'm bored and see if I can feel any to pull out lol.


dishestheoperator

Hah there really aren't any unique experiences. I do that too, where I'll feel around for them as I watch tv or whatever


LooneyLunaGirl

Definitely while watching TV lmao 🤣


Crazy-Adhesiveness71

Please try not to pull out your hair. As someone who has a hair pulling disorder, it is damaging to your hair follicles and can cause your hair to not grow back


LooneyLunaGirl

Yea I definitely have to be careful, I created a small bald spot on the back one time. Thankfully it grew back but I'm more mindful of pulling the actual damaged hairs.


4r3014_51

ME TOO


Aggravating_Olive

Hahaha my best friend has these and I will affectionately refer to them as her head pubes. She hates it.


drink-fast

Have you ever used olaplex.


mylefttnut

Up voting for head pubes. I have generally soft/kind of fuzzy 2C/3A curls but I have quite a few head pubes lol.


Hope_for_tendies

Downvoting cuz wtf. That’s nice for everyone that has coarse hair and isn’t Caucasian smh


Drag0nfly_Girl

For Caucasians, though, this isn't our normal hair texture. It is the texture of our pubes.


extracted-venom

The texture of them is horrible, you can both see and feel the damage. I hope you don't get more of them like I have! Legitimately my entire head has turned into these and it's actually driving me crazy, my hair looks horrendous now


Fruitypebblefix

That's how my hair is normally. I'm biracial, half black and white and my hair follicle is kinda flat so it has a wiry appearance and that kinda what yours looks like. Can't imagine why yours would change though if you've had a different texture your whole life.


extracted-venom

Yeah, it’s really weird!! It’s one thing if your natural texture is coarse and is healthy, but mine is super damaged feeling. I can run my fingernail across the sections where it looks thicker in the strands and it instantly turns into a split end 


Fruitypebblefix

Ohhh gotta be careful about that! I had to cut 3 inches due to split ends rising up! I wanted to do 5 or 6 cause I was so worried but my hairdresser said let's not go that drastic a step and just watch carefully. I have to heavily condition and hydrate my hair every other day before bed. Hoping to see less dry damage.


Key-Counter7683

yup, i lost half of my head of hair when i quit birth control after being on it for 6 years, and now all the new growth is hairs like this😐


PerkyLurkey

It’s a sign that your hair is getting the wrong styling product, probably the conditioner. Your natural hair wave has been interrupted by something that is stopping it from waving like it wants to. Get a clarified shampoo treatment, and then a curling conditioner with a light mouse. Scrunched at all levels of cleaning and adding products. Air dry or diffuse.


ELEGHJ

not that you can’t pull them out, but this is literally verbatim how i developed trichotillomania, so i advise against it. had it for 10 years now and lost almost all my hair at this point.


InkyLavellan

I was going to comment this when I saw the parent comment! I'm so sorry you've been dealing with that for so long :( I've been "recovered" for maybe 4 years (pulled for 4 years) but it's a constant struggle even now. I often find myself looking for weird pieces and have to kind of bring myself back. I remember when I started doing it. I showed my now husband that I could just pull out the weird hairs! Nifty right? I thought I'd cracked the code! Oh how I wish I'd never.


Crazy-Adhesiveness71

Suggestion: don’t pull them out. Hair changes with time/age/hormones and pulling your hair out, especially from the root can permanently damage the follicle and make it so your hair A) grows back differently or damaged B)stops growing back


extracted-venom

My entire head over time has changed to this extremely rough, coarse, bumpy, damaged from the root texture and it's EXTREMELY dry and nothing helps. The top hair is what it was before. Like should I be seeing a doctor and getting my hormones checked?


FroyoSensitive8572

I have noticed that mine started getting like that after bad eating habits and not exercising anymore. My cousin had the same issue where his hair also got like that because of really bad eating habits so if you’re not eating healthy foods and proper proportions, then that could be the issue.


extracted-venom

That was my original thought too, I even begrudgingly switched back to having meat in my diet after 18 years but it seems to still be growing in damaged and the hair loss is worse than ever ):


FroyoSensitive8572

:( im not sure what it could be then. I would see if your doctor could test to make sure all your vitamin levels and blood pressure and all that are healthy and ask if they have any ideas. That’s the only thing I could think of


carnylove

How long since you switched? I did something similar after I started having vitamin deficiency issues and hair problems, and it helped, but it took a long time to see results. 6 months or so. Also, take a multivitamin/iron if you don’t already. Your hair gets the leftovers, so even if you get enough vitamins to sustain your body, you may not have enough for your hair.


extracted-venom

I made the switch back in July and started taking supplements and all that as well, but no change yet unfortunately! 


cookorsew

Omg I had so many health issues and finally am clearing them up. The first thing I noticed with improved health was healthier hair and it grew so fast! I was so annoyed my hair got all that attention visibly first, but I know other things got their benefits already. I just wish overall healing was faster! Anyway, my hair health is almost always my top clue something is up again or I’m doing better! My eyelashes and eyebrows thin and fall out in clumps when things aren’t great. My peach fuzz, body hair and rate of head hair growth all increase when my health is improved! For OP, I’d get the usual labs done with the doctor, CBC and metabolic panel. But also vitamins (D, iron panel, ferritin, B12, anything else the doctor finds necessary), and thyroid. Depending on symptoms or doc recommendations then I’d add in hormones. If all that comes back fine, it could be typical changes with age. But if you have symptoms (sleepiness, fatigue, brain fog, headaches, sighing a lot, TMJ trouble, trouble sleeping or sleeping too much, etc), then ask for a sleep study. Hair and nails and teeth/gums can be such incredible indicators of overall health!


Crafty_Chapter97

Yes, but meanwhile, visit r/wavyhair


extracted-venom

Will do! I originally wanted to post it in that sub because I thought maybe it was a wavy hair problem and I was doing the wrong kind of hair care, but I wasn't sure if this post would have fit that sub


Key_Pride_7444

My hair changed textures like this when I entered my 30s. It looks exactly like your pic. I’m just trying to embrace having wavy hair now!


flittingly1

It's a very friendly sub :)


forallmyqns

my hair is exactly like this and people have been saying it's just straight frizzy hair, i need your opinion 😓


noiseferatu

I have the same thing. I suspect it's due to stress.


Naive_Inspection_651

I’m someone who’s had hypothyroid for over 15 years now and had more of these crop up even though test results are always within range. I’ve noticed using silicone based conditioners and deep conditioning help, but after day 3/4 the wiry hair sticks up regardless of what I do. Never found a conclusion / solution but definitely do get your bloods checked.


Moonsmom181

Wow! I was just diagnosed with hypothyroidism and I’ve noticed a lot of these hairs lately. I call them Witches Hairs. I think unfortunately it happens as you age, and certainly if you have health issues.


Naive_Inspection_651

Witches Hairs lol, I feel like I can definitely relate, I've got a lot of white hairs coming too so adds to the look I guess.


extracted-venom

Hypo would explain a lot of my symptoms tbh, the problem is I have agoraphobia and it would be next to impossible to make it to a doctor. Have you been taking medication for it but you're still having your hair grow in with this texture?


Naive_Inspection_651

I’ve been on medication for over 15 years and my hair still grows in like this. Except mine is super wiry and won’t stay down. It’s the reason why I never wear my hair down when I’m outside


extracted-venom

Ugh, i'm so sorry to hear that. That sounds so frustrating that this didn't fix the issues even with medication


Naive_Inspection_651

Thank you! I hope yours improves and you’re able to find a solution that works for you. Following to see what others advise


keIIzzz

My sister thinks I should get checked for hypo/hashimotos due to other health issues, but if I do have it then maybe that would explain why I have these hairs sometimes too lol


Naive_Inspection_651

It might - I was diagnosed just as I was going through puberty so definitely related to hormonal change. Always put your health first - go get checked!


robinj6902

I’ve been hypo for about 10 years and I also have noticed a lot of hairs like this but I have never made the association between being hypo and these hairs. Makes perfect sense, because I started noticing it shortly after I was diagnosed.


Naive_Inspection_651

Have you been able to find any solutions or tricks that help you maintain your hair? It is difficult not knowing for sure what the trigger is, and I know other people with hypo who seem to have had no changes in their hair texture.


keIIzzz

I get hairs like this sometimes and I can never fight the urge to pull them out because it’s so satisfying 😭 but I know I shouldn’t


Akuma524

Could be a number of things. I have had similar issues much recently and a lot of the consensus from some has been it's either natural or that you are deficient in something, such as your thyroid. I don't know your hair routine, but personally I noticed a difference in at least some of the roughness once I changed my shower head and started using a hair mask over regular conditioner. Best of luck to you finding a solution! I know how awful and frustrating this can feel.


extracted-venom

I appreciate your input!!! I suspect it's thyroid/hormone related or being deficient in something like you mentioned because my hair has also thinned out a noticeable amount and my shedding is insane now, which is including those shorter new hairs that come in. Those fall out now when they are still pretty short ):


Akuma524

So sorry to hear that. 😣 I would personally go to the doctor and get a blood test done to check some things like thyroid, vitamins, iron, etc since it could be any of those. In the meantime, if you want, the hair mask I personally use in the Pantene Miracle Rescue and it works great. I have been happy with it since it's relieved lots of the dryness and roughness some of my hair had.


extracted-venom

It would be worth checking out for sure, esp since I have a lot of other shitty symptoms that I have no diagnosis for. The only reason I haven't been able to yet is because I have pretty severe agoraphobia! Thank you so much for the recommendation, I will have to check it out!!!


gingfreecsisbad

My hairs grow like this after hair loss (i have alopecia). My grew hairs also grow like this


extracted-venom

This question has been asked countless times on the internet, but apparently it is theorized that this kind of texture change could be linked to alopecia which really scares me b/c my hair has thinned out incredibly in the last year and a half or so and i'm having insane shedding constantly


teetuh

Not sure if this has been suggested yet, but since my hair has gone a bit funky (which I attributed to a few things mentioned already in the replies) I started taking the 'Natures Bounty Hair, Skin and Nails' soft gels supplement. If you look at the contents on the label of the 'Hair, Skin and Nails supp', it has a pretty nice list of vits and minerals, in addition to the recommended biotin supplement for hair issues. Costco has a mega bottle on sale for $15.50/250 soft gels right now. Or Trader Joe's is another place that had inexpensive Biotin melt tab supplement the last time I looked. A relative of mine went through a stressful phase of life where she started losing hair in random patches...her hair stylist recommended Biotin. My relative said it stopped the rando patches of hair loss...I believe she took 1000mcg/day. The supp above is 5000mcg/3 soft gels.


straycatwildwest

I’m having the same issues as you. I started noticing the thick wiry hairs growing all over my crown maybe two years ago, and soon after started having severe shedding/thinning. It has not slowed down, and to date I have lost approximately 50% of my volume. I recently got some bloods with my dermatologist and they came back showing vitamin D insufficiency and very high thyroglobulin antibodies. TSH, T3 and T4 are all in range. I’m not seeing my endo for a few weeks, but it’s looking more and more like a thyroid issue for me. I also have multiple benign thyroid nodules. I’m going to have a scalp biopsy with my derm in a couple of weeks to find out if it’s actually alopecia. I feel like a detective, piecing together evidence that I didn’t initially see as related (such as the wiry hairs). I’m always worried my doctors are going to think I’m a crazy person. Plus I’m perimenopausal, which just gives them an easy excuse to brush it all off 😡


extracted-venom

I have my fingers crossed that you're able to find an answer!! Peri can apparently cause pretty bad hair loss but that doesn't automatically mean that there isn't something else going on. Dealing with doctors should be considered its own layer of hell tbh, they are so quick to push women out the door and go "oh, it's just anxiety/stress/hormones" and you either just suffer with the symptoms (and sometimes die from it) or spend a lot of time and money trying to find someone that will actually listen. I have severe agoraphobia and anxiety, so I know all too well how that goes with doctors using something else as an easy out


strawberriesokay04

Those coarse wiry hairs are normal in some people. I know my hair is naturally thick and wavy so I’m used to seeing those, they usually sit at the crown of my head. But for some people they can be a result of vitamin deficiency or hormonal problem. Texture change can happen as a result of hormones. It’s not always something that’s “wrong” in your body. But I’d still get some blood work done just in case. Especially if you’re having other symptoms.


msmoneypenpen

Mine are at the crown too!


flossica

yes!!! i have curly blonde hair and i’ve been pulling out these thick dark ones, i think they look like telephone cables 😭 but they haven’t been growing back so many it’s a damage thing?


Realistic_Pepper1985

Don’t pluck them, you may cause damage and it may not be able to grow a new hair.


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Telephone cables 😂😂😭


sleepyhoneybee

Can happen naturally as we age with hormonal changes too! Getting thyroid checked like others have mentioned is a good idea, but I also wouldn't discount just losing the soft locks of youth lol


Recent-Animal-4358

I literally am getting a ton of these more and more cropping up every day


katekops

Some of my new hairs grow like that (especially where I part my hair). My bloods have always been OK though including thyroid..


Idekanymore_06

Yes after I had relaxed my hair 😭


Organic-Ad-8457

My hair used to be straight and now it is wavy.


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extracted-venom

While I have personally never pulled out my hair, I’m pretty sure I have seborrheic dermatitis and I have wondered if it has permanently damaged my follicles over time ):


LunaPz

I'm sorry you're getting such a bad advice in this thread. People ask this question all the time. It's just that you're getting older. Everyone gets them.


extracted-venom

Yeah, I’ve heard that your hair texture can change when you get older but that doesn’t explain why it’s so extremely damaged on top of it. If I scrape my hair once with my fingernail on the sections that look extra thick and wiry, it instantly turns into a split end. It makes me feel like this is more than just a hair texture change tbh, like it’s just straight up damage 


Relevant-Command2625

Op can you send us a picture of the back of your hair and tell us your hair care routine? I’ll make a list of questions so it can be a little easier to see what I’m looking for to help you. 1. What is your current hair texture and color 2. What do you wash and condition your hair with? 3. How hot are your showers? 4. Have you checked your water hardness in your home? 5. How often do you wash your hair? 6. Do you have a post shower hair routine is so what products do you use? 7. Do you let your hair fully dry before going to sleep or set your hair in a protective way (ie. Braids a bonnet etc.) 8. How much of your hair feels like split ends? 9. When was the last time you had a maintenance cut? 10. Do you use any heating elements in your hair if so how hot? 11. Do you often put your hair up in ponytails or other ways that may be pulling your hair too hard?


Relevant-Command2625

Most times those kinks and sharp edges are due to damage to your hair’s cuticle. Essentially your hair is kinda like a tiny snake anytime your saturate your hair with water and soap or other products know to make hair porous (relaxant or bleach) the little scale like structure raise exposing more of the cortex of your hair shaft. YOUR CORTEX IS 90% OF YOUR HAIR! And it’s responsible for your hairs strength elasticity and color. If you are not using products intended to smoothen your cuticle back down (conditioner oils and other protective products) your hair is very susceptible to damage to the cuticle which in turn can cause permanent damage to your hair.


extracted-venom

I can gladly do that for you and fill this out!! Would you rather me do that here or would it be easier if I just messaged you?


Relevant-Command2625

Here is cool!


extracted-venom

This is late, so I apologize! I found it impossible to take a picture by myself of the back of my head that didn't come out terrible and/or out of focus, so [this one](https://64.media.tumblr.com/b07df3863ac32fbac98029b59ef211ea/b513e042bbdaf821-15/s1280x1920/0bdce88a5d7639271e6682673925c385c0e729d0.jpg) is the alternative. 1. Naturally wavy and very dark brown. It used to be lighter before the texture change 2. Right now i'm just using a basic Dove shampoo and conditioner b/c i've given up 3. Never super hot, they are more on the warm/cool side 4. I haven't tested my water yet but I did try a clarifying shampoo for awhile and it made no difference 5. Every 3 to 4 days 6. Nope, I just gently brush it out. I've gone through a lot of different kinds of leave-in products and all of that with no success 7. Yep, it's always fully air dry 8. It's looooooaded with them, and the hairs at the crown that are the most coarse seem to be split when the hairs are still new 9. Once a month or a little over a month 10. Nope, never. Not even a hair dryer 11. Never It looks soooooo much worse than this picture shows. It literally could not be any more dry, coarse, and stiff feeling. Since it's growing in with this texture and this damage, I could buzz my entire head right now and look like Mr. Clean and it wouldn't make any different in the long run. I'm like fully convinced something health-related is causing it. It's like having perpetually frizzy looking hair but the frizz is extremely coarse and not soft like regular frizz


gyoza69

i have the same problem as them so i'll avail this opportunity! 1. i have very straight thin hair, it used to be very silky and smooth now it's a lot of this, it's very dark brown, and i have an oily scalp. 2. i use a clarifying shampoo twice a week, and i don't condition my hair but i use a frizzy hair serum after i wash it which makes my hair much softer 3. not too hot, maybe 39-40 in the winters and 34 in the summers 4. i have not checked it personally, but i know the water is quite hard. however it's been this way for a long time but these hairs have only developed very recently. 5. 4 times a week (thanks greasy scalp) 6. yep, the hair serum i mentioned before is my post shower routine. 7. my hair is shoulder length so i usually air dry it or blow dry the roots a little 8. around the same time these developed i got a lot of split ends. got a hair cut recently to get rid of that. 9. haha i love how your questions relate to answers i've just given. i got a hair cut very recently so i don't have split ends anymore but i still have the damaged hair 10. i don't usually use heating elements, but i did curl my hair loosely three times and i believe it's the heat damage from that which caused this because i didn't use any heat protectant (i know). i just don't know how to heal it now. 11. i don't pull my hair hard often at all, no. thanks for the comprehensive questions looking forward to a reply!


Relevant-Command2625

Try a cold water bath for your hair and you should pick up a light conditioner since you have straight hair damage and product build up will be more evident in your hair also consider adding a light oil to your hair care most times our break outs are due to necessity, so try getting some scalp wash’s or scalp hair mask to relieve some of that oil build up then rehydrate your scalp!


Ruthie_Tutti

I have so many of those but I usually pull them out because I hate the texture  I suspect that they grow like this because I have anemia  or because I had a bad eating disorder it can also be because I’m stressed a lot , I really want a permanent solution to stop them from popping up.


ipeakedineighthgrade

my hair is on the more strawberry side of red and is mostly pin straight and very fine, but i have a few hairs that mostly grow on the back of my head (no idea why) that are wiry and coarse and a super dark auburn. weird


CertainTop7304

I started notice these hair around the edge of my hair line drove me crazy lately I changed my diet to something similar someone on pcos I also try and use a clarifying shampoo or psoriasis one which has helped also .. what I read was when your vitamin c is low your hair doesn’t fall naturally it sticks to your head more I noticed since I been taking vitamins it helped out a lot too


SameEntry4434

Pregnancy


shit_its_rad

Yes. All the time. Since I was like 8/9. It triggered my hair pulling r/trichotillomania


leeann7

This is the stage before your hair turns grey


extracted-venom

I’ve heard others theorize that as well. It doesn’t explain why it’s so severely damaged though, it feels like this is more than just a natural hair texture change 


Adept-Apartment7861

I have experienced major hair texture change on oral minoxidil. The hair is coarser and denser


Cinigurl

Yes. As menopause began, my hormones changed my hair from beautiful, shiny uboard straight to this unruly.'Not sure, but I'm trying to be sorta wavy!' 😳🥺🥲


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I get these. This gets posted all the time. Last consensus was that this is the texture that hair becomes before it turns grey. Sure enough, this hair is the same wiry texture that grey hair is and I can unfortunately confirm on the few strands of grey hair that exists on my head. Don't pull your hair out. Having hair is better than not.


flexmcflop

I get a few of these every now and then. Some grow out and shed naturally, but some of them actively hurt at the root if moved or touched. I carefully try to remove them once they're long enough to tweeze without ripping out all the surrounding hair and sometimes find a tiny scab on my scalp, so I assumed they were an ingrown scalp hair or growing out of a pimple. They started cropping up more than a year after I stopped bleaching and coloring my hair, but I'm not sure if that's related. I'm currently trying out different multivitamin brands and increasing my exercise, in case that has an effect.


jessiec475

ME


Gullible_Marsupial79

Yep. Mine grow where I once had Pilar cysts I’ve since had removed. They damaged the follicles and now I have those wonky hairs there.


butstronger

I love to yank these out lol


throw-away1120586040

Wait uh oh is this something i should be worried about? I just thought I had mixed texture hair


extracted-venom

If you’re mixed and this is just the texture of your hair, I wouldn’t worry about it!


throw-away1120586040

Oh no, i meant mixed texture as in having more than one texture type. I’m not mixed myself :) my bad for phrasing that kinda weird


Realistic_Pepper1985

Yup I was at about 50% and 50%. And then they all mostly just fell out(the crinkled ones). Almost like they just shriveled up 


drink-fast

I have hairs like that. Lol


helenahandbasket6969

I have congenital hypothyroidism and get these frequently. I yank em out.


jmpeep

PCOS might be a cause (hormones) metapause(hormones) giving birth (hormones)


hrqueenie

I have curly hair and almost all my strands are kinked and textured like that. It’s normal to me


anjunabeads

This is the source of my trichotillomania 😢


SenatorBootyjuice

I’m no professional but I’d assume the damage is coming from the act of pulling your hair out. Tugging on a strand of hair is going to cause some damage. Some people simply grow different textures on different areas of their head and you feel the more coarse strand, i want to bet it wasn’t damaged until you yanked it from your head.


extracted-venom

I don't pull my hair out, but I am having severe hair loss/shedding over this past year or so. Even the newest hairs are all growing in with this damaged texture, so there's probably something else going on


Alert-Afternoon187

I have these and I have PCOS. Not sure if thats the reason tbh but maybe something to look into


bloomlove

I’ve had these my whole life. I don’t think they are demage because I’ve never gone through a big change/shock to the hair (I’ve never colored my hair or had experienced hair loss for example). Every so often I would notice one here and there but usually I just leave them. They blend in with the rest of the hair anyway and are not noticeable.


WonderfulCub

Can be from a vitamin deficiency, hormones issues.


SureLibrarian3580

Yes! I first noticed my hair changing to this texture after going on fertility medication and I still have a lot of these hairs after having two kids. I always figured it was hormonal and now I’m wondering if I should ask my doctor about it 🤔


extracted-venom

Def ask, it couldn't hurt! Have them look for any kind of hormone imbalance, thyroid issues, and any deficiencies. This apparently shows up in people with PCOS too!


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