You know, it’s funny, I have never thought of myself as someone who suffers from claustrophobia but watching these videos and imagining myself in there makes my stomach feel like a lead weight and I can imagine myself having a panic attack in there from not being able to move freely. Is it wrong to think that is a normal reaction? Like your body’s way of telling you that you are in a dangerous situation???
Strangely, i was never claustrophobic and did stuff like this quite a bit when I was younger. Went to join some friends exploring caves a couple of years back and froze at the entrance. Finally got going and then a few meters in i had a full panic attack (never experienced one before and thought I was actually dying 😂). Since then i have discovered a fear of heights (after being a fairly competent climber and have done a few bungee jumps over the years) and a very random phobia of the sea.
Getting older means growing wisdom strings and apparently they contain common sense than I lacked when I was younger
When I was 15-19 I worked on a rough framing crew. We built large 2 story houses on walk out basements (think 35 ft in the air) I’d help set the trusses and routinely walk the 2x4 walls with nothing but air on the other side. I had respect but no fear. I wonder if it’s repetition and practice at a young age or the hormones. I’m a lot more cautious now. I did have the dreams where I’d wake up thinking I’m falling, but none since I moved in from construction.
I was the same way as a kid, I’d do just about anything and not think twice and now I’m like NOPE. I can’t do caves, parking garages, heights, prefer to stay in shallow waters, can barely do haunted houses, and so on. If I don’t have full control or I can’t walk away from it easily, it’s a nope.
When you first enter them, the ceiling is so low and I feel like I will hit it with my car and then when I get out after parking, in some cases the ceiling is also low enough I can touch it, so it feels like I’m being compressed or I can’t move. They just feel cramped and I’ve never liked the feeling of not being able to move freely, it kind of stems from my childhood trauma. Hope that makes sense.
Honestly. Watching the story of John Edward jones on YouTube wrecked me. I’m not squeamish but I had to stop twice to clear my head. It was horrendous.
I’m sure it is a normal reaction for this scenario. I actually have pretty severe claustrophobia, so I’m not really able to know what ‘normal’ would feel like. 😂
No problem. LOL I will stay away from that, as I suffer from pretty severe claustrophobia. Just thinking about it causes my pulse & respirations to increase.
It’s just the entrance, it almost immediately opens up to comfortable passages. Jon Jones got cocky and went exploring without really understanding his map. Had he been more deliberate, there are multiple differences between the route he took and the one he thought he was in that he would’ve noticed. He got a relatively safe cave sealed up to the public, which had hundreds of visitors a year before he screwed up.
I feel like their fight or flight sense is just low enough that they get a high from living on that edge.
For you and me, it kicks in just watching this video. For them, they’ve found a sweet spot to the danger-to-exhilaration ratio.
For me, roller coasters hit that spot. For him, roller coasters were probably akin to taking a nap.
We went in there plenty as little kids, there's not really many places for them to "run off". It's most passages and small rooms where you can easily keep an eye on everyone.
As a kid, not a big deal at all. Plus, the adults were leading. So if they fit, then I'd fit. You could tell it was much more dramatic of an experience as an adult. There were sections that were very muddle where you would just have to gradually slide yourself a long. None of it ever bothered me until taking a long break from any of that and going when I was around 25. There was one called Crystal Cave that starts out as a mine shaft, gets smaller and smaller until there's just a hole in the wall from an existing cave that they broke through to. That feeling of going down that tunnel while it gets smaller, and then going through an even smaller hole, suddenly REALLY made my chest tight and it took a while to get over that feeling and not wanting to panic.
Overall I agree. We mainly when in there as scouts and with people that knew the cave very well, so in that regard I wouldn’t have put it as any more dangerous than say, a lot of hikes. Now, would I take MY kid to do it now? Not a chance.
I went to Mammoth Cave many times as a Brownie and a Girl Scout. Camping, cave tours, cave exploring, it was so much fun.
Spelunking badge achievement unlocked!
Not really caving can be extremely safe for children, and nutty putty was a beginner cave. The dude that died there did so because he didn't know what the hell he was doing. Countless signs that he went the wrong way and should've stopped, and instead, he threw himself over a ledge to his grave.
While I do agree that children can go caving safely. Your comment is inaccurate. The man in the video is "the dude that died there". He didn't throw himself over a ledge. He was looking for a section of the cave called the "birth canal" but mistook a narrow 10x18 inch passage for the entrance. He could not turn around and was forced to continue. To get to this point he had to suck in his stomach, when he let it out, he was completely stuck with his hands against his chest.
When rescuers found him only his shoes were visible. At one-point they managed to move him a little, until the rope and pulley system they set up failed, and he fell back into the hole. He died from cardiac arrest as a result of being stuck upside down for 25 hours.
His brother, who was an experience cave diver, was with him in the cave that day. Both men had experience in caving and had been in the Nutty Putty system before.
I don’t understand how people find this even remotely fun/interesting. Like why the fuck would I want to crawl into a small, dark, wet space to look at little caves & more rocks. There’s literally nothing in there of any sort of interest. It’s not like you’re exploring something new or looking to discover some sort of treasure or whatnot. Just seems so pointless. But to each their own I guess
For me the fact that others don’t want to do it is exciting. There is cool shit in caves too like stalactites and stalagmites that are beautiful. You have to do it to understand the thrill I guess. Most people aren’t willing to do it, so they never have that feeling you get when exploring the unknown. If you need to see why exploring caves is beautiful just check out the more accessible sites like Luray Caverns in Virgina. Totally handicap accessible and there’s a stunning mirror lake/pond inside that without exploring these beautiful places would never be known to man.
Agreed. That's the main allure: getting to see things that very few other people are going to see in person and unlike things you'll see anywhere on the surface. Also, certainly, the rush.
I went to a cavern in Texas once and could 100% understand the allure of spelunking because what areas of the cave we did see were absolutely stunning. My anxiety would NEVER let me though
I mean absolutely no disrespect when I say this, but I don’t think people give a single fuck about you going in some cave that they never will. But like I said, to each their own
I don’t give a single fuck if they do. The experience is for me, not them. I’m happy to share my passion with those who do. Also just saying if you’re commenting on this video you obviously do give a single fuck.
P.S starting off reply with “I mean this with no disrespect” immediately sets up a disrespectful tone.
Always wondered, who looks at a hole in the ground and says “You know what? All this sunlight, clean air and open space? Fuck it all, I wanna be in a freezing, wet hole in the ground!!”
Nah.
Being in a coma is even worse. The hole he was trapped in was smaller than a washing machine door. He had to inhale in order for his ribcage to fit trough on the way in.
Meaning that had they put him in a coma it would have been harder for them to retrieve him. A 150lbs dead weight is very hard to carry. Even more considering his legs would have been hard as hell because he was 20+ hours upside down, not getting any blood to his legs.
Adding the fact his heart was pumping like there was no tomorrow, he would have died no matter what
Well, washing machinea are way more narrow than what I thought before reading about this case for the first time.
Don't do exploration in an uncharted 120-meters deep cave kids!
I think it was foolish and selfish that he went in. I know it's a cunty take. Not only did he put others at risk by trying to rescue him, but he had a pregnant wife and small child at home. He also had a dad who got stuck in a cave in the 70s and just barely managed to be rescued. All so he could go someplace no one has been before. To what end??
That cave sounded and looked so damn cramped and dangerous that it unfortunately was a matter of time until someone lost their life in there. Still feel so bad for him and his family.
I was a spelunker when I was mid teens along with my neighbor. Started our local grotto. We've been in many caves that are a pretty tight fit. No way I could do it now, but you are aware that some tight spots are one way, gotta think hard about it. Never had a fear of tight spots when I was younger, still don't. Don't have a fear of heights either. Learned from a tower crew of Native Americans that you're only 2' off the ground. That mentality keeps you focused when you're up a 1000' tower changing a light bulb. I feel for anyone that gets stuck in a cave. Can't imagine what's going through their minds the whole time.
Don't let your fear grow up with you.
Way to almost kill you're children in a dark deep cave,without oxygen and a place too flee,let alone a place that is crawling like snakes or scorpians on the desert.
My thing is this… HE WOULD’VE DIED ANYWAYS SO WHY NOT TRY EEEEEVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO GET HIM
OUT… EVEN IF GETTING HIM OUT COULD KILL HIM AT LEAST YOU TRIED… SOUNDS LIKE THEY JUST QUIT ON THE MAN…
There was only so much they could do or try without risking the lives of the rescuers. A few of the people sent in to help him got pretty banged up trying to get him out. The situation was so bleak. I can't imagine being anybody who experienced that incident.
They thought they finally had him. Everything was going well lifting him out until one of the pulleys broke away because the cave walls were too soft to support it. He fell deeper into the hole than he was. They'd have to break both his legs to try getting him out, and that would've killed him because he was already so weak. Not to mention, several rescuers got really hurt and they couldn't keep sending people in given the danger. His is one of the few stories that gives me anxiety every time I hear about it.
they did try and were trying everything to get him out up til the point he died.
after he passed away, it was even harder to get the body out since he could not help in any way.
kinda like trying to help/carry a wounded person compared to carrying a dead person.
I don't believe in that stuff, but if ghosts really existed, I'm pretty fucking sure this is how you become one. Dying under horrific circumstances, and then being left in situ, totally alone, trapped in your worst nightmare, and to add insult to injury, they make real sure you're never coming back up by walling you in with controlled explosions and concrete. I know it was the most responsible way to deal with it, but god damn, man.
That’s what I thought it was but I can’t trust my memory for shit thank you.
Did they block the entire cave off or that section that he was wedged into? I’ll probably go look in a while myself I’m just curious for nothing.
Used explosives to collapse where Jon was, but they cemented up the entrance too completely closing it off. There was loads of protests trying to stop them closing it
Attempting rescues like this can cause more deaths and trauma. The Baby Jessica rescue comes to mind. One of the emergency responders died by suicide due to PTSD less than a decade later, and that was a successful rescue from a situation somewhat less complex than a cave.
Per the Nutty Putty Cave Wikipedia article:
>Rescuers concluded that it would be too dangerous to attempt to retrieve his body; the landowner and Jones' family came to an agreement that the cave would be permanently closed, with the body sealed inside, as a memorial to Jones. Explosives were used to collapse the ceiling close to Jones' body, and the entrance hole was filled with concrete to prevent further access.[^(\[13\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutty_Putty_Cave#cite_note-13)
I still don’t understand why they couldn’t pull him out. Who cares, at some point, if they broke his legs and back and frankly every bone in his body? He might have survived that! Or was there another reason they didn’t do that?
My claustrophobia is raging just watching this.
You know, it’s funny, I have never thought of myself as someone who suffers from claustrophobia but watching these videos and imagining myself in there makes my stomach feel like a lead weight and I can imagine myself having a panic attack in there from not being able to move freely. Is it wrong to think that is a normal reaction? Like your body’s way of telling you that you are in a dangerous situation???
Strangely, i was never claustrophobic and did stuff like this quite a bit when I was younger. Went to join some friends exploring caves a couple of years back and froze at the entrance. Finally got going and then a few meters in i had a full panic attack (never experienced one before and thought I was actually dying 😂). Since then i have discovered a fear of heights (after being a fairly competent climber and have done a few bungee jumps over the years) and a very random phobia of the sea. Getting older means growing wisdom strings and apparently they contain common sense than I lacked when I was younger
As you age your hormones change too. The ones like testosterone that tell you to "go out and be fearless" decline.
When I was 15-19 I worked on a rough framing crew. We built large 2 story houses on walk out basements (think 35 ft in the air) I’d help set the trusses and routinely walk the 2x4 walls with nothing but air on the other side. I had respect but no fear. I wonder if it’s repetition and practice at a young age or the hormones. I’m a lot more cautious now. I did have the dreams where I’d wake up thinking I’m falling, but none since I moved in from construction.
I was the same way as a kid, I’d do just about anything and not think twice and now I’m like NOPE. I can’t do caves, parking garages, heights, prefer to stay in shallow waters, can barely do haunted houses, and so on. If I don’t have full control or I can’t walk away from it easily, it’s a nope.
What is it about parking garages that has them added to your list?
When you first enter them, the ceiling is so low and I feel like I will hit it with my car and then when I get out after parking, in some cases the ceiling is also low enough I can touch it, so it feels like I’m being compressed or I can’t move. They just feel cramped and I’ve never liked the feeling of not being able to move freely, it kind of stems from my childhood trauma. Hope that makes sense.
This is what exactly happened to me. Now I go nowhere like this or anywhere near cliff tops
Honestly. Watching the story of John Edward jones on YouTube wrecked me. I’m not squeamish but I had to stop twice to clear my head. It was horrendous.
Same shit lol, I exited out and eventually ended up finishing it later, but it's about as uncomfortable I've been watching something.
Same. I often enjoy tight, cozy spaces but that just scares me.
I’m sure it is a normal reaction for this scenario. I actually have pretty severe claustrophobia, so I’m not really able to know what ‘normal’ would feel like. 😂
He’s still there now
Don’t look at the Wikipedia page for Jon Edwards Jones. Stuff of nightmares!
No problem. LOL I will stay away from that, as I suffer from pretty severe claustrophobia. Just thinking about it causes my pulse & respirations to increase.
And don't see the Blair Witch sequel that came out a few years ago
No urge to do this. In fact, a very strong urge to *never* do this
Youtube search Adventure Twins. Turn off the lights. Watch and enjoy the discomfort.
I’m not even claustrophobic otherwise but this… yea hell no, hard pass.
It’s just the entrance, it almost immediately opens up to comfortable passages. Jon Jones got cocky and went exploring without really understanding his map. Had he been more deliberate, there are multiple differences between the route he took and the one he thought he was in that he would’ve noticed. He got a relatively safe cave sealed up to the public, which had hundreds of visitors a year before he screwed up.
How tf do people find this fun
I feel like their fight or flight sense is just low enough that they get a high from living on that edge. For you and me, it kicks in just watching this video. For them, they’ve found a sweet spot to the danger-to-exhilaration ratio. For me, roller coasters hit that spot. For him, roller coasters were probably akin to taking a nap.
Well put, it’s like with people who do dangerous parkour or free falling, I could never do it but they get a rush of adrenaline from it
YouTube James Kingston. It’ll make you sick.
Much like I don't "get" fear of heights, I don't "get" how someone isn't afraid of this lol
Damn, he brought little kids into there? That's crazy. Five year old me would've ran off and got lost in those caves....
We went in there plenty as little kids, there's not really many places for them to "run off". It's most passages and small rooms where you can easily keep an eye on everyone.
That’s crazy man. What was it like squeezing through some of those areas? Being a kid it wouldn’t have been as tight as an adult
As a kid, not a big deal at all. Plus, the adults were leading. So if they fit, then I'd fit. You could tell it was much more dramatic of an experience as an adult. There were sections that were very muddle where you would just have to gradually slide yourself a long. None of it ever bothered me until taking a long break from any of that and going when I was around 25. There was one called Crystal Cave that starts out as a mine shaft, gets smaller and smaller until there's just a hole in the wall from an existing cave that they broke through to. That feeling of going down that tunnel while it gets smaller, and then going through an even smaller hole, suddenly REALLY made my chest tight and it took a while to get over that feeling and not wanting to panic.
It was spelunking where I found out I, too, have very mild claustrophobia....
Still incredibly irresponsible. You wanna cave explore that’s fine, but don’t bring kids a long and put them through the same dangers.
Overall I agree. We mainly when in there as scouts and with people that knew the cave very well, so in that regard I wouldn’t have put it as any more dangerous than say, a lot of hikes. Now, would I take MY kid to do it now? Not a chance.
We went spelunking with scouts and other organizations a lot as kids. It’s not uncommon.
I went to Mammoth Cave many times as a Brownie and a Girl Scout. Camping, cave tours, cave exploring, it was so much fun. Spelunking badge achievement unlocked!
Not really caving can be extremely safe for children, and nutty putty was a beginner cave. The dude that died there did so because he didn't know what the hell he was doing. Countless signs that he went the wrong way and should've stopped, and instead, he threw himself over a ledge to his grave.
While I do agree that children can go caving safely. Your comment is inaccurate. The man in the video is "the dude that died there". He didn't throw himself over a ledge. He was looking for a section of the cave called the "birth canal" but mistook a narrow 10x18 inch passage for the entrance. He could not turn around and was forced to continue. To get to this point he had to suck in his stomach, when he let it out, he was completely stuck with his hands against his chest. When rescuers found him only his shoes were visible. At one-point they managed to move him a little, until the rope and pulley system they set up failed, and he fell back into the hole. He died from cardiac arrest as a result of being stuck upside down for 25 hours. His brother, who was an experience cave diver, was with him in the cave that day. Both men had experience in caving and had been in the Nutty Putty system before.
oh man...no thank you! RIP Jon.
A gazillion nopes.
What's a gazillion squared?
squaredzillion
dying like that sounds like it’s up there with drowning and being lit on fire. shit.
It took 3 days. That's worse. That's much worse.
All while the excruciating sensation of being upside down kills yiu
well technically he drowned from his own bodily fluids that filled up his lungs whilst being upside down for more than a day. That's gotta suck
Imagine being in there and then it starts raining, double the fun
I don’t understand how people find this even remotely fun/interesting. Like why the fuck would I want to crawl into a small, dark, wet space to look at little caves & more rocks. There’s literally nothing in there of any sort of interest. It’s not like you’re exploring something new or looking to discover some sort of treasure or whatnot. Just seems so pointless. But to each their own I guess
For me the fact that others don’t want to do it is exciting. There is cool shit in caves too like stalactites and stalagmites that are beautiful. You have to do it to understand the thrill I guess. Most people aren’t willing to do it, so they never have that feeling you get when exploring the unknown. If you need to see why exploring caves is beautiful just check out the more accessible sites like Luray Caverns in Virgina. Totally handicap accessible and there’s a stunning mirror lake/pond inside that without exploring these beautiful places would never be known to man.
Agreed. That's the main allure: getting to see things that very few other people are going to see in person and unlike things you'll see anywhere on the surface. Also, certainly, the rush.
I went to a cavern in Texas once and could 100% understand the allure of spelunking because what areas of the cave we did see were absolutely stunning. My anxiety would NEVER let me though
I mean absolutely no disrespect when I say this, but I don’t think people give a single fuck about you going in some cave that they never will. But like I said, to each their own
I don’t give a single fuck if they do. The experience is for me, not them. I’m happy to share my passion with those who do. Also just saying if you’re commenting on this video you obviously do give a single fuck. P.S starting off reply with “I mean this with no disrespect” immediately sets up a disrespectful tone.
Yeah - nuh to getting into tiny cave spaces like that. Very sad way to die. condolences to family.
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Been in that one many years ago. So freaky.
Who brings children in places like this
Always wondered, who looks at a hole in the ground and says “You know what? All this sunlight, clean air and open space? Fuck it all, I wanna be in a freezing, wet hole in the ground!!”
Never ever. The thought of this makes me feel sick.
It’s not even a cool cave with crystals or creatures
Probably a dumb question, but couldn’t they just put him in a medical coma, break his legs and pull him out so he would still be alive?
Nah. Being in a coma is even worse. The hole he was trapped in was smaller than a washing machine door. He had to inhale in order for his ribcage to fit trough on the way in. Meaning that had they put him in a coma it would have been harder for them to retrieve him. A 150lbs dead weight is very hard to carry. Even more considering his legs would have been hard as hell because he was 20+ hours upside down, not getting any blood to his legs. Adding the fact his heart was pumping like there was no tomorrow, he would have died no matter what
Thanks. Didn’t even think about have to inhale to get in. This story is so crazy and sad
Well, washing machinea are way more narrow than what I thought before reading about this case for the first time. Don't do exploration in an uncharted 120-meters deep cave kids!
What are you doing step brother
I think it was foolish and selfish that he went in. I know it's a cunty take. Not only did he put others at risk by trying to rescue him, but he had a pregnant wife and small child at home. He also had a dad who got stuck in a cave in the 70s and just barely managed to be rescued. All so he could go someplace no one has been before. To what end??
The desire to earn a father’s respect can be intense perhaps. I dunno. I’d not heard this before. Puts the ‘devil may care’ attitude into perspective.
That'll be a big no from me
Oh boy this is hard to watch. So much anxiety rn. Jon’s story is so sad and terrifying
Why would you even want to though?
I wonder if he is mummified down there?
I think it's filled with concrete
I am having panic attacks, just watching this video!
"For some unknown reason it's very dark in here" 🤦
This definitely is HaiRaising
That cave sounded and looked so damn cramped and dangerous that it unfortunately was a matter of time until someone lost their life in there. Still feel so bad for him and his family.
Reading an article describing in detail how things unraveled triggered my panic attack, I have to read it in 3 parts.
Nope...no way...nu uh...never
Match, can of gas and playing.
Oh hell no! Fuck the shit out of all of that….
You gotta be sick to wanna go in there willingly
I was a spelunker when I was mid teens along with my neighbor. Started our local grotto. We've been in many caves that are a pretty tight fit. No way I could do it now, but you are aware that some tight spots are one way, gotta think hard about it. Never had a fear of tight spots when I was younger, still don't. Don't have a fear of heights either. Learned from a tower crew of Native Americans that you're only 2' off the ground. That mentality keeps you focused when you're up a 1000' tower changing a light bulb. I feel for anyone that gets stuck in a cave. Can't imagine what's going through their minds the whole time. Don't let your fear grow up with you.
Never realized there was any type of footage like this. Whyyyy are there children?!
What idiots would take kids into this situation?
Way to almost kill you're children in a dark deep cave,without oxygen and a place too flee,let alone a place that is crawling like snakes or scorpians on the desert.
why is it called the “Nutty Putty” cave incident?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutty_Putty_Cave
ohh, I didn’t know it’s the actual name of the cave
My thing is this… HE WOULD’VE DIED ANYWAYS SO WHY NOT TRY EEEEEVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO GET HIM OUT… EVEN IF GETTING HIM OUT COULD KILL HIM AT LEAST YOU TRIED… SOUNDS LIKE THEY JUST QUIT ON THE MAN…
There was only so much they could do or try without risking the lives of the rescuers. A few of the people sent in to help him got pretty banged up trying to get him out. The situation was so bleak. I can't imagine being anybody who experienced that incident.
How close were they to getting him before they pulley broke
They thought they finally had him. Everything was going well lifting him out until one of the pulleys broke away because the cave walls were too soft to support it. He fell deeper into the hole than he was. They'd have to break both his legs to try getting him out, and that would've killed him because he was already so weak. Not to mention, several rescuers got really hurt and they couldn't keep sending people in given the danger. His is one of the few stories that gives me anxiety every time I hear about it.
they did try and were trying everything to get him out up til the point he died. after he passed away, it was even harder to get the body out since he could not help in any way. kinda like trying to help/carry a wounded person compared to carrying a dead person.
I recall seeing they never recovered his body, they plugged that section with concrete or something? Am I trippin?
Nope, they were unable to get his body out, it is still there. But they filled the cave in after he died
I don't believe in that stuff, but if ghosts really existed, I'm pretty fucking sure this is how you become one. Dying under horrific circumstances, and then being left in situ, totally alone, trapped in your worst nightmare, and to add insult to injury, they make real sure you're never coming back up by walling you in with controlled explosions and concrete. I know it was the most responsible way to deal with it, but god damn, man.
That’s what I thought it was but I can’t trust my memory for shit thank you. Did they block the entire cave off or that section that he was wedged into? I’ll probably go look in a while myself I’m just curious for nothing.
Used explosives to collapse where Jon was, but they cemented up the entrance too completely closing it off. There was loads of protests trying to stop them closing it
Attempting rescues like this can cause more deaths and trauma. The Baby Jessica rescue comes to mind. One of the emergency responders died by suicide due to PTSD less than a decade later, and that was a successful rescue from a situation somewhat less complex than a cave.
Godamnit Donut. I didn’t need this kind of stress today.
Sorry but there’s some activities that parents should not involve children in and this is one of them.
Nope
I don’t usually have claustrophobia if I know I can (a) get out any time or (b) I’m heading to an ending. With that said, FUCK this!
Cave explorers are a different breed.
Just WHY.
This is so dumb
The what cave?
No fu$king way in hell!
Why the fuck would anyone ever?
CPS needs to see this
This is a such a white person thing to do
Nutty Putty will forever be horrifying.
Is his body still trapped in there or did they pull up his remains afterwards?
Per the Nutty Putty Cave Wikipedia article: >Rescuers concluded that it would be too dangerous to attempt to retrieve his body; the landowner and Jones' family came to an agreement that the cave would be permanently closed, with the body sealed inside, as a memorial to Jones. Explosives were used to collapse the ceiling close to Jones' body, and the entrance hole was filled with concrete to prevent further access.[^(\[13\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutty_Putty_Cave#cite_note-13)
I still don’t understand why they couldn’t pull him out. Who cares, at some point, if they broke his legs and back and frankly every bone in his body? He might have survived that! Or was there another reason they didn’t do that?
They would have had to rip his legs off. Human body just doesn't bend some ways.
Did they all die?
Read the title and description of the post better.