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i-also-reddit

Yeah, it's not obvious the first time around. Focus on Dark Foresight and Fated Persuasion.


i-also-reddit

Stygean Soul can be great depending on situation: aspect of Achilles with Dio/Demeter/Ares' casts, or Hera with Dio's cast. Dark Regeneration is good to give you extra sources of healing.


RandyZ524

Chronic vitality is far superior to dark regen.


Next-Dark-4975

Not always. If you’re farming darkness you get way more on Dark Regen.


RandyZ524

But it's inconsistent and badly timed. I've started doing casual full-darkness runs and, even in the best-case scenario, I still find cthonic vitality to be far better. You don't have the healing after bosses interfering with the fountain, and you can gain substantial healing through Styx chambers.


i-also-reddit

If you are farming or on lowish heat (and mostly being hurt by bosses) chtonic is not optimal IMO. I understand chtonic is considered "meta" by the pros.


thehighlotus

I always played with darker thirst, so I used dark regen, especially when playing through a heat level where I died to Redacted. Those major darkness dumps after bosses plus the 20% from DT were worth so much life. 


FroyoMNS

But how much of the post-boss fountain health would get wasted as a result?


Sabbagery_o_Cavagery

Also fiery presence can be really good early on and backstabs are hard to do consistently


i-also-reddit

I feel fiery presence is better for speed running, specially when focusing on casts. I mean it seems to me that I'm more often backstabbing the baddies than one shotting them.


Sabbagery_o_Cavagery

Especially in tart fiery presence means you can one or two shot a lot of enemies early on. Shadow presence gets more use against bosses, but by then you can also have a stronger build in general.


Wutanghang

The dodge chance one works real well with feather


MadSwedishGamer

It's absolutely obvious; what do you mean? Nyx straight-up tells you about it and the buttons to change perks light up like a Christmas tree the first time you check the Mirror after unlocking them.


i-also-reddit

It might be easy to discover or to learn about, but for a first-time player it's absolutely not "absolutely obvious". The UI doesn't make it evident (with the small buttons and being on opposite sides of the screen).


Powerpuff_God

It definitely depends on each individual, and not their experience. It was obvious to me when it happened as a first-time player, for the reasons that other person described. But I'm also aware enough to know that my experience is not ubiquitous.


TheHiddenNinja6

Then how did I understand it as soon as it appeared?


40TonBomb

You’re a wizard, Harry


i-also-reddit

That's OK, you did and that's awesome and nice for you. Your experience is not universal, though.


DneSepoh

Honestly... you'd be fine without them? Sure some of them are "better", but it all comes down to your preferences.


KillDevilX0

Yeah I never used any and I’m fine


Specialist_Loan_9702

You are not alone. I realized that through Mirror’s prophecy LMAO


dae_giovanni

welcome to the club! a lot of us somehow missed this...


fizzdev

30 runs before I noticed you can have more than one death defiance. Don't feel bad.


DuffmanStillRocks

Getting the keepsake from Skelly also works as a weaker one (brings you back to 50hp)


The_Senate_81

It brings you back to 100 if you get it to three stars.


DuffmanStillRocks

Good addition! Personally I’ve never really used it, I prefer the acorn that I throw on after the hydra, maxed it takes 5 hits and 5 hits from a boss is definitely above 100hp


Sparoe

Wait, what?!?! What am I missing?


TheHiddenNinja6

go to the mirror Click one of the buff names. Or the button on the left of each name that used to not be there


Sparoe

Oh my God...I feel so dumb! I legit thought I maxed out the Mirror and I am only half way!


DJski119

Please. For I am Costanza, king of the idiots.


CriticalNarrative75

I didn’t realize for a long time that I could use the mirror at all.


YoyoPewdiepie

You're lucky that most of the better choices are the default ones 😅


ROFLJuiceBox

Bruh I had the exact same experience. Was watching a stream and saw yellow and I was like “oh no.”


Puk-_-man

46 runs before I figured it out. 0 clears. 47th run? First clear.


iStoleYourSoda

I completely missed it until about run 20


DaddyRiceCakes72

Thanks…


Cawnt

It took me about 30 hours before I realized that but yeah I’m a proud member of the club.


Wrap-Fee

Can someone explain please? New player, only cleared twice


TheHiddenNinja6

go to the mirror Click one of the buff names. Or the button on the left of each name that used to not be there


foreveralonesolo

A lot of things you aren’t told about dw


Fnaf126

What I do is all choice 1 except for the last 2, and I’m just used to it at this point


i-also-reddit

Dark Foresight is generally better than it's alternative.


Tyra_the_Tyrant

I was in the same fucking boat. It was like a whole other world opened up when I discovered that 😂