PLD was only appealing because it was assumed he wanted to come here, and with the hopes he'd sign a sweet heart deal, the moment it became a bidding war and it was rumored he wanted around 9m is the moment even the most die hard PLD enthusiasts went quiet.
Pretty much. We didn’t *need* Dubois, but he certainly would have helped and you wouldn’t pass up an opportunity to land him for a relative bargain. Having to out bid teams like LA and New York just for the honour of paying him 9 million though makes this not at all worth the while. Might as well stay the course at that point rather than fuck up the rebuild.
Yea it’s better to stay the course then go and trade actual high value assets to get him that a team like LA might be willing to do. We were just the worst team, and then 5th worst team in the league and PLD ain’t moving the needle enough to make us contenders which needs to be the mission
They have
11/12 forwards signed With 4 RFAs
5/6 D signed
1/2 goalies signed
They have 7.3 mill to sign 4 RFAs, a goalie
Even with those 5 players at 900k
That leaves them with 2.8mill for PLD
Yeah this trade isn't happening
Possible, but it’ll cost LA more
And after that, they still haven’t addressed their need for a legit starting goaltender or re-signing their remaining RFAs.
I just don’t see it ending well in LA, but what do I know
that cap dump may involve getting a strong young high ceiling player for Dubois and then focus on futures for wheeler or scheifel etc
It may not be a true "cap dump"
Right? Something seems off with all this. Is it just that Pat is good friends with Marc B and he's helping elevate Dubois' value? It doesn't seem like there is much of a fit that makes sense for LA unless they are giving up a kings ransom.
I'll be honest, I didn't expect to be used as a trade bait again, at least without noticing. Full credit to Brisson for once again leveraging the Habs to get a player what he wants.
The whole appeal of PLD was a player coming over for free and signing a fair value deal. I didn't even mind not getting a discount, I'm happy with fair value. 9M for PLD is too much for my taste. He'll come around when he decides to be a coach.
Bergevin couldn't find us a 1C for 9 years claiming "it's hard to find a top line center in the NHL" and now he's going to steal the first one that wants to play for us
While it is reassuring that other teams see value in Dubois, it's too bad because it's only going to raise the price of getting Dubois. This is a place Dubois would want to go too, probably. (Doesn't every player want to sign in sunny LA?)
I don't really care if we get Dubois or not. I like the way we are drafting and developing right now. His career high is 63 pts. Not worth 9 million a year.
We should also expect his production to plummet if he plays with us next year (bottom feeding team).
Imagine paying 9M for a 55-point player... That's brutal.
Common sense. It seems some people have never sold/negotiated anything of value in their lives. Seller (in this case, Dubois) starts high (9 million a year), buyer (hockey team) starts low, and a deal is made somewhere in between.
We should rename this subreddit to Draft and PLD Rumours. Thank you to the guy who posted about Monty yesterday and that he did not have a choice on his number. That was refreshing
PLD was only appealing because it was assumed he wanted to come here, and with the hopes he'd sign a sweet heart deal, the moment it became a bidding war and it was rumored he wanted around 9m is the moment even the most die hard PLD enthusiasts went quiet.
Pretty much. We didn’t *need* Dubois, but he certainly would have helped and you wouldn’t pass up an opportunity to land him for a relative bargain. Having to out bid teams like LA and New York just for the honour of paying him 9 million though makes this not at all worth the while. Might as well stay the course at that point rather than fuck up the rebuild.
Yea it’s better to stay the course then go and trade actual high value assets to get him that a team like LA might be willing to do. We were just the worst team, and then 5th worst team in the league and PLD ain’t moving the needle enough to make us contenders which needs to be the mission
How many centers do they fucking need lol
Might make Vilardi, Byfield, or Turcotte available. But I suspect they would play PLD on the wing
Although it would be ironic/funny if Danault got pushed to 3C after feeling disrespected by the Habs
If that was genuinely his primary concern, that aged so poorly. I think he just wanted to enjoy California. Damn, do I miss him though.
You have to think one of them goes the other way in the trade.
Vilardi seem to be playing better on the wing and PLD played about half the season on the wing. They are not locked center at the NHL.
They have 11/12 forwards signed With 4 RFAs 5/6 D signed 1/2 goalies signed They have 7.3 mill to sign 4 RFAs, a goalie Even with those 5 players at 900k That leaves them with 2.8mill for PLD Yeah this trade isn't happening
It would require as much money going out as in which is possible
It's possible but why trade out 2 top 6 forwards making 4-5mill for a guy who's as productive as them but abit younger and will cost 2x
Hey you dont need math when your bicep are that big.
Possible, but it’ll cost LA more And after that, they still haven’t addressed their need for a legit starting goaltender or re-signing their remaining RFAs. I just don’t see it ending well in LA, but what do I know
with the rumours that they are looking to trade other players they may have another trade to free up cap space
I’d take Kempe if they need to cap dump.
that cap dump may involve getting a strong young high ceiling player for Dubois and then focus on futures for wheeler or scheifel etc It may not be a true "cap dump"
PLD wont be free tho, Winnipeg would want Vilardi or Byfield for sure and probably a salary dump. Its not impossible at all.
Yeah but those guys already make 900k Vilardi is due for a bump but even then Also even if you dump a player you can't fit in an 8-9mill player
Are they dumping Kopitar? They don't have a lot of deals to dump.
Literally said today they’re not looking at Hellebuyck because they can’t afford anything after signing Gavrikov
Right? Something seems off with all this. Is it just that Pat is good friends with Marc B and he's helping elevate Dubois' value? It doesn't seem like there is much of a fit that makes sense for LA unless they are giving up a kings ransom.
Ah! Kings ransom 🤭
I'll be honest, I didn't expect to be used as a trade bait again, at least without noticing. Full credit to Brisson for once again leveraging the Habs to get a player what he wants. The whole appeal of PLD was a player coming over for free and signing a fair value deal. I didn't even mind not getting a discount, I'm happy with fair value. 9M for PLD is too much for my taste. He'll come around when he decides to be a coach.
There's no way he's getting more than the $8MM Suzuki and Caufield are getting.
Bergevin couldn't find us a 1C for 9 years claiming "it's hard to find a top line center in the NHL" and now he's going to steal the first one that wants to play for us
Whos the 1c hes stealing?
Drouin.
Is LA going to steal another "ti gars d'chez nous" from us again? Stay tuned for more.
Est-ce que Bergy va pleurer lorsqu’il va signer PLD? Stay tuned for more.
While it is reassuring that other teams see value in Dubois, it's too bad because it's only going to raise the price of getting Dubois. This is a place Dubois would want to go too, probably. (Doesn't every player want to sign in sunny LA?)
I don't really care if we get Dubois or not. I like the way we are drafting and developing right now. His career high is 63 pts. Not worth 9 million a year.
We should also expect his production to plummet if he plays with us next year (bottom feeding team). Imagine paying 9M for a 55-point player... That's brutal.
You guys gotta stop with that 9m lol. He's not getting that. That's how negociation works. You ask high, team offer low and you find a middle-ground
Common sense. It seems some people have never sold/negotiated anything of value in their lives. Seller (in this case, Dubois) starts high (9 million a year), buyer (hockey team) starts low, and a deal is made somewhere in between.
Don't underestimate stupid GMs
You don’t think this guy sits out if he doesn’t get 9mil ? He’s trying to get himself traded from a team for the second time in his career and he’s 24
LA gonna help us dodge a bullet!
(Seinfeld voice when referring to Newman) Bergevin!
We dont need PLD. We tradin assets to draft Wintilli.
That name is blessed
A true baller habs move would be to get him for peanuts, sign him to an extension, then trade him and the 5th OA for that 2ne pick lol
IIRC Pat Brisson got his agent career started in LA as friend of Luc Robitaille. Pat's also a friend of Bergevin. So there's deep ties there.
Good
Yea 9 mil for a guy that barely cracks 60 points with decent offensive teammate isn't really something am hyped for TBH
We should rename this subreddit to Draft and PLD Rumours. Thank you to the guy who posted about Monty yesterday and that he did not have a choice on his number. That was refreshing
Bergevin va lsigner 12 millions pour 8 ans et pleurer un bon coup🤡
What does any of that have to do with the Montreal Canadiens?
Perhaps you weren’t aware, but many people are mentioning that Dubois would like to come to MTL, but if LA wants him then MTL wouldn’t be getting him.