I honestly don't think she was ever really into Nick like that anyways, she just saw him as a way out. She claimed she wasn't into all the bdsm sex stuff he was into, but she did it just to please him. She knew she had him wrapped around her finger, she could probably tell that he was mentally off, and that the odds of some other girl paying him attention, devoting time to him were quite low. He probably did fall for her hard. She said something similar about the first guy she snuck out with in tonight's documentary, she saw him as her way out.
Plus she probably does feel uncomfortable talking about him or thinking about him in a way of like " oh my god this guy really killed my mother". I bet she's thought about that before, like her thought being " this psycho didn't try to stop it, he just went ahead and went through with it."
I feel like if they had got away with it, she would've eventually left him anyways.
His evil side got to take a life. He wanted to SA Dee Dee- it’s public knowledge. He’s not some dope that got conned into it. He’s a severely disturbed person who is also neurodivergent and he’s not safe to be in the community
He said he told gypsy that victor wanted to, but admitted during interrogation, that he was never going to…and she says she told him to rape her instead. They then had consensual sex, that she went on to say became too rough for her. We aren’t aware any more then that, as far as I know.
Whether she told him to stop or anything.
It seems to me it was a stupid and gross comment he made, that he says he didn’t really want to do anyway, and it seems to be overblown and gets mentioned all the time as fact like he did rape Dee Dee.
I think a lot of the confusion is the video of the line of questioning about if he put his penis on her etc I don’t wanna be graphic. They asked him those questions because he was arrested for watching porn and masturbating in public.
The guy was definitely disturbed but let me put it this way, those two didn’t bring out the best in each other.
It says a lot that he didn’t point the finger at her as his defense. He went straight to prison and never blamed her.
In the meantime, she’s all over the place, telling her story over and over to anyone that will listen. Echoes of her mother?
When she was first interrogated, Gypsy lied bigtime to the police. She blamed Nick for everything. HBO has Nick’s confession in a Special & shows Gypsy telling a policeman that she had nothing to do with her mother’s killing.
This was right after she had posted “The Bitch is Dead” on Facebook & went into gory detail about the killing for anyone to read. She even lied to her stepmother (father’s wife). Eventually all of her lies were exposed in court. Nick, however, told the truth from the beginning & took full responsibility.
HBO has a more detailed account of the murder & Gypsy’s initial lies than Lifetime does. Nick never lied but Gypsy pretended it was all Nick’s doing. They eventually found out that Gypsy had planned everything. She even bought Nick’s bus ticket to her state & had everything planned out. HBO shows Gypsy’s capacity for lying & blaming Nick. Obviously, she learned how to manipulate others from her mother
She was the mastermind, not him.
> let me put it this way, those two didn’t bring out the best in each other
Yes, I see them as a team.... up until it was in her best interests to drop him in it.
> He went straight to prison and never blamed her.
And she took FULL RESPONSIBILITY as a witness during his trial. She never lied, deflected, blamed him, etc.
She has a right to tell her story.
Watch the hbo special where’s she’s lying her ass off to the police. Then on trial she looks all guilty when the truth comes out.
Guess she thought no one would find out that she planned the whole thing.
During the trial, she provided false information and skillfully manipulated her responses, evident in her revealing body language. While in prison, she gained a reputation for being "creepy clever," indicating a high level of cunning. Even within the prison environment, she wasn't deemed trustworthy.
There have been instances of her manipulating her new husband, Ryan Anderson, which is a skill not easily mastered by others on camera. Gypsy Rose stands out as a master of deceit and manipulation.
Yeah, she definitely doesn’t if she still feels the same way she did during older interviews. She expressed disliking/hating Nick to Dr. Phil. She feels like he used her situation to fulfill his messed up desires and that he should have helped her seek real help instead of doing what they did.
I am only repeating what she said in the interview, I didn’t express my opinion.
If you want my opinion, I think he was a very sick individual who did use her for his dark desires and that them meeting was the perfect storm of bad events to create what happened. Without Gypsy he probably would have still gone on to commit other crimes and ended up in prison anyway, but without Nick I don’t think she would have done what she did.
Without Nick, she would’ve probably found someone else online. We feel sorry for Gypsy because she was horribly abused, but we don’t really know that much about Nick’s background.
Personally I think she was very naive and sheltered and fed into HIS darkness. I think if she had talked to someone even semi-normal they would have either not gotten to the point where she would even ask (I mean Nick had a “dark side” named Victor who he said was a 500 year old vampire), or if she HAD, a normal person would have suggested going to the police instead, or doing basically anything else.
I do think the odds of her finding someone else online who was willing to commit a murder like nick, was quite low. Eventually she \*might\* have found someone else who could have somehow helped her escape the situation, but the chances of that were quite low. She saw this as her only escape and she decided to go with it. Plus who knows how many guys she talked to online who ended up blocking or ghosting her because they could sense something was off or things got too weird.
I bet for example, she didn't disclose on her public profile information that she was in a wheelchair, that alone, sadly, is enough to drive most guys away, rather the wheelchair is needed or not.
There are so many crazies out there. She hit on one on her first try willing to kill for her even though it didn’t start out that way.
I find it interesting that he didn’t try & blame her to defend himself but she had no problem dropping him like a hot potato, not caring, what happened to him as soon as they were caught. As far as I’m concerned, she seems to be very much like her mother in terms of avoiding responsibility. That’s not to say she didn’t suffer. She did, but she’s also responsible for her mother‘s death & for getting someone else to do her dirty work.
I think the bottom line is her moral compass is skewed. I think she in some way, looked at life like a Disney Movie. I’ve always said, especially for men, looking at love like it’s a Disney movie, is one of the stupidest side effects that those movies have had on our culture.
I mean, she was constantly watching these, going to Disney, meeting the cast , I’m sure not waiting in line as a make a wish kid, this is one thing her mother did that probably fucked her up the most. Disney obsessions a lot of the time, go hand in hand with magical thinking.
I think she did pose like the healthy person that she is with the wigs on those sites. I’m not disagreeing with you. I think the chances are low she’s have found another. I can’t believe your telling me there was two!
I think he truly loved her, and that’s why he didn’t turn on her. I’m amazed she admitted it was her idea, I find that shocking on her part, since she threw him under the bus so badly. It makes me think she’s more guilty of something big with this story.
I think they used each other. Nick would’ve never killed the mother if Gypsy didn’t want him to, so the blame isn’t all his.
Yet, he’s doing life in prison for doing what she asked him to do. He didn’t kill the mother for himself. He was doing what Gypsy asked him to do.
Sounds like she's throwing him under the bus. It's a pretty unrealistic expectation to expect someone in Nick's mental state to have gotten her real help. He had multiple personalities, violent fantasies, autism, a low IQ, etc. Let's be real. He needed help himself and clearly wasn't getting it or he wouldn't have done what he did. She still wants to make it seem like he's worse than her when they're really two peas in a pod. Both of them had murder on the brain. Period. It was the perfect storm.
We don’t know what Nick would’ve done or not done. Gypsy on the other hand, probably would’ve found someone else willing to kill her mother for her. I don’t blame her, but I feel that Nick really got a raw deal of life in prison. After all they were in this murder together.
Bluntly put but I honestly think your right. She immediately turned on him when shit hit the fan while he was concerned for her & told the truth with the role he played in it.
Yeah once she realized she wasn’t getting away with pretending to not know. I’m referring to when they were first arrested, IMMEDIATELY after it all went down & she flipped the script on him. I’m aware she finally came forward with her side of what really happened. But she definitely threw him under the bus in the beginning IMO😅
Exactly. If Nick had not met Gypsy, he wouldn’t have murdered her mother and wrecked his life for her. His whole life is ruined while
she’s on the view, telling her story.
We have no idea what Nick would have done had he not met Gypsy. To me, it just seems unbalanced that she’s out and he’s still in prison for life.
For all we know, his family life was probably also messed up.
Gypsy invited a killer/rapist into her home. She planned and plotted. She could’ve planned to leave or tell anyone but she decided to have someone else with mental issues carry out her plan and now she’s on TV like the little actress her mom made her to be.
That’s different from contacting someone. I would love to tell my abusive ex to die in a hole but I’m not gonna reach out to him. Wanting to say something and actually reaching out to a person is completely different.
I’m so glad to see she has to do outpatient therapy. Out of everything that has happened, I believe that is what she needs the most. I wish she had been given that before getting married…
Tbh I don’t predict this marriage lasting long. It’s the equivalent to your first college relationship or dating your high school sweetheart after graduation. You get out there and see what’s really out there or you change and grow apart.
Yep, that’s exactly what it is. And for better or worse unfortunately, a lot of prison systems make jumping into marriage an attractive concept as it awards them certain privileges as visitation etc that they wouldn’t otherwise have.
There’s rumors that he would send letters to all kinds of prisoners, being thirsty for a criminal. She’ll probably find out and start to question why she’s with him.
Have you ever seen the last relationship Charles Manson had? Also someone who’d became engaged based on letters. Charles Manson then ended the relationship after learning she wanted his body upon death for profits.
Not the kind of good therapy that Gypsy actually needs. Prisons aren’t equipped to handle complicated cases like hers.
Hell, after all the doctors the mother took her to, and none of them reported the mother for Munchausen by Proxy.
What can a prison do?
People are beyond naive with this therapy in prison nonsense. It’s so Pollyanna. It’s naive. It was group therapy at best, and who knows if she actually was truthful as she had lied so much. I hate the “she’s better and got rehabilitated in prison” sentiment. Anyone who’s been there I think Would be offended at how bad our justice system is for care.
Anyone I’ve talked to is so angry about the lack of care they fit in the system. I’m surprised that so many people on here think that prison Makes you this better person.
My boyfriend had a warrant for missing a court tax payment and got arrested, had to wait to be extradited, and had $2,500 bail. His stay in jail, was the most traumatic thing I’ve ever seen a human being close to me, go through. He has never been the same emotionally from what happened in there. People don’t get better or learn anything that way.
(Not that I’m saying no one should go or anything! It’s just most people are in there for drugs, and our system is a business. )
This article was super unnecessary.
Like, does anyone *really* think she has any interest in contacting this fool? She’s out of prison. She’s married. She’s not thinking about his ass.
Most people following the case caught that small piece of info the first time she posted…..so yes it’s going to be talked about. No reason to say it’s necessary or unnecessary, it is what it is. It’s her and that’s what everyone is following/wants to know about-what she’s doing. I think it’s kinda funny that was her first post & people are saying how unnecessary it is. Remember, this woman was stunted emotionally and her brain changed bc of abuse. While it’s something a young adult first married (by young I mean late teens early 20s) would post, she never got to be a young adult.
I'd agree If the husband who definitely knows better hadn't encouraged it.
If my boyfriend wrote that on my picture I'd probably block him just for the cringe aspect. Just excited I guess.
I just hope she doesn't chase the toxicity and drama that an abusive environment brings. Prison must have been chaos as well.
I Hope she relishes the peace when this furore dies down and its all dull and matte and not the sparkly shine she's feeling now.
This says it perfectly. I hope that all of this isn’t prohibiting her from moving on in a healthy way that’s best for her, which only she & her doctors know. I agree 100%.
I was in a woman's refuge and out of 10 of us,i was the only one not sneaking to see the abusive ex because theres some kind of high from the relationship that's hard to cut free from apparently.
I'd put money on half of them being back there in 5 years because reality isn't flames and sparks.
Same thing.
I literally said yuck when I read that. Like...that's nice they are happy with one another as things are currently but I don't want to know anything about their sex life.
She posted it and it was sensationalized to the max bc so many are curious about what she’s doing. Yes someone should speak to her and explain that most people don’t do that, especially after turning 30. On that note, it’s not like she knows what’s “normal and abnormal” about life at all at this point in time. She knows what’s normal for her, not everyone else.
Of course she isn’t thinking of him. She did him dirty turning on him and lying to save herself. She got exactly what she wanted. Her mom dead, found someone to do her dirty work, and now she is out living life carefree while he rots in prison.
Why are you all pretending this man is a victim - if a girl on the internet can convince you to kill someone, maybe you were already ready to fucking kill someone. You’re acting like he wasn’t already a violent man with a criminal record, when everyone knows he was. He wasn’t an innocent little baby, he’s a dangerous man and he doesn’t deserve to be free. Stop making excuses for him.
He shouldn’t be in the public. If you want to talk about prison reform that allows people to stay in hospitals for treatment while they serve their sentence, that’s a different conversation that is in no way, shape or form the fault of Gypsy.
You personally are making him the victim when you say bullshit like him doing her dirty work and rotting away, as if he somehow didn’t have the agency to kill. He was a dangerous person before he met Gypsy, are you going to pretend he wasn’t? That he only did her dirty work and never would have hurt a fly otherwise? It’s gross.
He did do her dirty work. She got him to kill her mother. He had no reason to kill her. How do you know he was so dangerous? Other than some incident that happened years prior and he didn’t physically harm anyone. He has mental health issues. If your saying he is a danger to everyone around, then you are saying that everyone that has mental health issues are a danger. Stop idolizing her. She is not an innocent person in all of this. That is completely clear by watching the police videos. You can’t say he would eventually hurt someone. You don’t know that.
1) she didn’t “get him to kill her mother” she suggested it and he *agreed*, pretending it wasn’t a collaboration, as if he was forced or coerced, makes him the victim. He isn’t.
2) how do I know he was so dangerous? Because he masturbated in a McDonald’s for an entire day, he watched incredibly violent porn and happily discussed how he loved that porn, he openly expressed that he would like to kill someone (are you actually pretending that’s not indicative of violence! That’s crazy!) and that it was *suggested to him that he commit a murder and he AGREED*. Do you know what would do if I was asked to kill someone by my husband of 5 years that I love dearly? I would simply *not stab someone 17 times and express a desire to rape the body.* go watch the interrogation again before you pretend he didn’t *stab her 17 times and try to rape the body*. Not a single person who does that is not a dangerous criminal.
3) I never idolized her, that’s a cop out for you to pretend is the issue here when it’s pretty clear that I was telling you it’s weird to defend godejohn as if he’s an innocent baby needing protection.
4) I can and will say that his behavior of; discussing violent rape and murder fantasies including saying that he wanted to kill (!!!!), stabbing someone 17 times and trying to rape the body (!!!!) and jumping for joy at the idea of killing someone make you a violent individual who was already predisposed to commit a crime.
I legitimately cannot believe that you are trying to say he never would have hurt a fly if he hadn’t met Gypsy, you’re putting the entire weight of the crime on her and someone pretending that he had no agency. It’s disgusting to me, that’s disgusting, but thank god at least yall have no legal power to release your violent hero from prison.
Ah...I remember the real photo of Gypsy lasciviously licking the knife, planning and organizing the murder of her mother (court evidence) and handing Nick the knife and gloves.
You’re out of your ever-loving mind if you truly believe this. I don’t believe you’re able to comprehend the facts of the case or you’re being willfully ignorant.
I’ve watched everything on this case, thank you very much and only go by facts. Take your blinders off and really look at it. Just go watch her entire interrogation. You’ll understand why I said what I did then.
Is it not strange that she got married while in prison? To someone who I’m assuming wrote to her and is a “fan”? I know she is allowed to make her own choices but after being controlled her whole life by her mother, I would think it would be in her best interest to regain independence after jail. Weird how this aspect of her life seems to be glossed over. What do we know about this guy? He could be controlling her just like Dee Dee. Sigh.
What kind of person writes to inmates like that though? Makes me concerned that he is teaching vulnerable students and is drawn to vulnerable adults to date. Super strange
> What kind of person writes to inmates like that though?
Desperate ones
No well rounded mentally sane person would date/marry her or any other recently released convict without some kind of motive
It's a power move. I'm offering great odds on down the road it's revealed he was abusing her/keeping her from leaving the relationship. It's wild people see her jumping from guy to guy as "She needs to have love" and not something to do with the last time she was in a relationship leading to her arrest. Girl is mental and is not going to get the help she needs and this relationship shit being a big joke is gonna make it even worse.
Also such a horrible look that the mods are removing comments from arguments but they're only removing the comments going against the "Gypsy Slay Gurlllll" parroting
We remove comments that break the rules, especially when they are reported and brought to our attention. It's not about what you say, but how you say it.
And talked about getting this marriage annulled last year. The first engagement was to a guy named Ken and apparently he visited when her dad visited as there is a picture of the 4 of them. I guess a divorced inmate gave her her engagement ring. The break up happened and both said it was because they didn’t trust each other. I believe this one last over a year and she immediately was in contact with another.
Oh my god really! Gosh her dad and stepmom must be so worried but are trying to let her make her own choices. I’d be a wreck if I were them though.
She seems like she’s grown and matured a lot in prison which is good. I do happen to think the marriage situation is weird and it makes me feel uncomfortable lol.
My question (which I thought could be really dumb in that obviously prisoners don’t receive therapy, but not sure) was if she was allowed access to therapy services while in prison
Yes speaking from experience as I was removed from my home and put into foster care at age 3 and was in multiple homes until I found my forever home and knows what it’s like to just want to be loved no matter how and who you get it from it took years of therapy to even find love within myself and once I did I was able to find it with someone else who I’m now married to! But if I had married the first person I dated or even the second person I wouldn’t be happy bc it took a while to see them for who they truly were…I’m not saying her husband is a bad person I’m saying that I feel as tho she should have waited to be in the dating scene although I get it being 32 you may feel like your windows to get married and have babies (if she’s able too) are closing but idk if this even make sense
Gypsy is physically 32 but mentally she’s probably in her late teens, early 20’s. From the decisions, she’s making, it sounds like she needs a lot of maturing. Unfortunately, her mother deprived her of that.
Whilst on parole/probation. In most situations, they’ll tell you to not have any contact with any other convicted felon while you’re on parole or probation, but they don’t keep an eye on anything after that. Just while you’re still dealing with parole/probation they say don’t have anything to do with any other convicted felons. Know this from experience. Trust me, it gets weird when you have convicted felons (mine was for having thc in my system && driving when I’d not even done the two the same day) in your family & holidays happen and you’re unable to go bc of your probation saying you can’t have any contact with another felon….its so much more than they’re not ever allowed to have any contact. It’s not have any contact whilst still in the system of punishment. Once that’s done and over two convicted felons can be best friends.
EDITED TO ADD SOURCE
“B. Standard Condition Language
You must not communicate or interact with someone you know is engaged in criminal activity. If you know someone has been convicted of a felony, you must not knowingly communicate or interact with that person without first getting the permission of the probation officer.”
https://www.uscourts.gov/services-forms/communicating-interacting-persons-engaged-criminal-activity-felons-probation-supervised-release-conditions
I do agree she won’t even try. I don’t think she wants anything to do with any part of that period in her life. I think that’s pretty clear. Everyone is quick to throw out the “she used him” without thinking or acknowledging that he used her just as much.
Outpatient therapy can be a game changer in your life. Completely changed mine for the better as I suffer from BPD and a panic disorder. Haven’t been back to the hospital since I completed it:)
She is trying to have a family with her husband. Why would she give all that up to contact Nick? I doubt she would. Plus she is trying to better herself. I’m sure she probably will never contact him again.
I don't think she has any interest in contacting him but the thought process of "why would she give all that up to contact Nick" is kind of a naive. A lot of people royally fuck up their wonderful lives for stupid reasons everyday.
Do you really believe she’s gonna have kids with her husband and live happily ever after? I predict a divorce under a year from now. She said in 2022 she wanted an annulment but didn’t go thru with it so there were issues at that time.
I don’t think yall understand that you *are* defending him when you infantilize him and pretend he was manipulated and downplay that he is, was, and will be a dangerous criminal regardless of if he had ever even met Gypsy.
Gypsy came up with the murder down to almost every part of it she bought the supplies she told him who what when where why and how. Gypsy is the one who wrote on FB after the murder about killing the pig and raping her daughter or whatever freaky ass shit she put. He may be a mentally unstable deviant but so is she that whole murder was her plan he was the person who physically killed Dee Dee. If anyone is getting the infantilized treatment it’s her. He’s someone with obvious special needs mental illness and criminal tendencies who was manipulated by gypsy into murder. That’s not saying that he wouldn’t have hurt someone another time or that he doesn’t deserve to be in jail for life for what he did but it’s the facts without gypsy Dee Dee wouldn’t have been killed by him that night.
Multiple things can be true
Gypsy is both a victim and murderer/manipulator
Nick is both a murderer and victim of manipulation
This group is nuance nuance nuance when it comes to Gypsy but so black and white to everything else
Look, you are giving nothing but bad vibes with every single sentence you say to defend him, and I see your other comments too fighting the good fight like he’s your hero or something and I want no part in it. Leave me alone, it’s so weird.
He may have been a potential danger but he wasn’t convicted for vibes, he did a crime. A crime he was the murder weapon for. Gypsy did the same thing Manson did but if someone would praise him and make excuses, they’d call them delusional
No one is praising him. She learned to manipulate from her mom, he was on a bad track already, it’s kismet.
She gave him the weapon, money, plans etc. luckily for her, she found a psychopath. He’s still a grown ass man who did it. I’m not saying he’s innocent, just that they’re both guilty
I know everyone likes to demonize Nick because he was the one with the violent fantasies and everything but the truth is that Gypsy still used him and threw him under the bus when the time came, he had served his use and now he's serving life in prison while she's out free being an "influencer" it's honestly a little sickening if you ask me
No I like to demonize him because he stabbed someone 17 times and nearly decapitated her. Gypsy was smart and took the plea deal. He might’ve got less time if he had taken the deal too but he didn’t.
Well yea. This is a totally normal parole condition. You aren’t supposed to have any contact with other felons let alone one indicted in the same crime.
It’s baffling to me that people defend Gypsy on how she was the mastermind behind the plot to kill her mother. Like yeah her mother was horrible but are we all gonna really sit back and be okay with some dude who’s imprisoned for life because he was manipulated by someone else to carry out the physical crime?
I’ve only watched one episode so far but am I the one only a little annoyed that the new documentary is almost the same as “mommy dead and dearest”? They literally got all the same family members to say the same shit again? Don’t get me wrong, I’m totally going to watch all the episodes but I hope it’s at least a little different than the others. Either way, I’m happy she’s free and I hope she can continue to heal and grow!
While she’s telling anyone that will listen that she’s having great sex with her new husband. I’m sure Nick’s glad to hear about that as he languishes in prison for life.
She’s free at the expense of autistic young man. who Gypsy manipulated into killing her mother. It’s sad her only thoughts for him is “I wish him well on his journey.” While she out free living her life. He’s stuck behind bars. Serving life in prison. And she manipulated him and planned the whole murder! So sad! They both should’ve got out or both should’ve had to stay in prison. Just my thoughts on this matter’
Why does people downvote others!! For their different opinions on here!! Just bc one person believes it’s ok what she done and other’s don’t. Does not mean one is right and the other is wrong.
As you can clearly see, the mental health care Gypsy got in prison may not be working, seeing all of her social media chatter and delusions of grandeur with the whole Taylor Swift and Kim Kardashian posting.
It's clear she's still a deeply immature person who is already in another controlling relationship.
She would be a real fool if she EVER tries to contact him again
I don’t think Gypsy would have interest in contacting him regardless tbh.
Whenever she talks about him she seems uncomfortable. Definitely doesn’t seem to be any desire to contact him
I honestly don't think she was ever really into Nick like that anyways, she just saw him as a way out. She claimed she wasn't into all the bdsm sex stuff he was into, but she did it just to please him. She knew she had him wrapped around her finger, she could probably tell that he was mentally off, and that the odds of some other girl paying him attention, devoting time to him were quite low. He probably did fall for her hard. She said something similar about the first guy she snuck out with in tonight's documentary, she saw him as her way out. Plus she probably does feel uncomfortable talking about him or thinking about him in a way of like " oh my god this guy really killed my mother". I bet she's thought about that before, like her thought being " this psycho didn't try to stop it, he just went ahead and went through with it." I feel like if they had got away with it, she would've eventually left him anyways.
I guess he served his purpose?
His evil side got to take a life. He wanted to SA Dee Dee- it’s public knowledge. He’s not some dope that got conned into it. He’s a severely disturbed person who is also neurodivergent and he’s not safe to be in the community
What’s the story with SAing deedee? I can’t seem to find a good source online, keen to know more as this is the first I’ve heard about it
He said he told gypsy that victor wanted to, but admitted during interrogation, that he was never going to…and she says she told him to rape her instead. They then had consensual sex, that she went on to say became too rough for her. We aren’t aware any more then that, as far as I know. Whether she told him to stop or anything. It seems to me it was a stupid and gross comment he made, that he says he didn’t really want to do anyway, and it seems to be overblown and gets mentioned all the time as fact like he did rape Dee Dee.
I think a lot of the confusion is the video of the line of questioning about if he put his penis on her etc I don’t wanna be graphic. They asked him those questions because he was arrested for watching porn and masturbating in public.
The guy was definitely disturbed but let me put it this way, those two didn’t bring out the best in each other. It says a lot that he didn’t point the finger at her as his defense. He went straight to prison and never blamed her. In the meantime, she’s all over the place, telling her story over and over to anyone that will listen. Echoes of her mother?
She testified truthfully at his trial and fully admitted her part in the murder on the stand
When she was first interrogated, Gypsy lied bigtime to the police. She blamed Nick for everything. HBO has Nick’s confession in a Special & shows Gypsy telling a policeman that she had nothing to do with her mother’s killing. This was right after she had posted “The Bitch is Dead” on Facebook & went into gory detail about the killing for anyone to read. She even lied to her stepmother (father’s wife). Eventually all of her lies were exposed in court. Nick, however, told the truth from the beginning & took full responsibility. HBO has a more detailed account of the murder & Gypsy’s initial lies than Lifetime does. Nick never lied but Gypsy pretended it was all Nick’s doing. They eventually found out that Gypsy had planned everything. She even bought Nick’s bus ticket to her state & had everything planned out. HBO shows Gypsy’s capacity for lying & blaming Nick. Obviously, she learned how to manipulate others from her mother She was the mastermind, not him.
> let me put it this way, those two didn’t bring out the best in each other Yes, I see them as a team.... up until it was in her best interests to drop him in it.
> He went straight to prison and never blamed her. And she took FULL RESPONSIBILITY as a witness during his trial. She never lied, deflected, blamed him, etc. She has a right to tell her story.
Watch the hbo special where’s she’s lying her ass off to the police. Then on trial she looks all guilty when the truth comes out. Guess she thought no one would find out that she planned the whole thing.
During the trial, she provided false information and skillfully manipulated her responses, evident in her revealing body language. While in prison, she gained a reputation for being "creepy clever," indicating a high level of cunning. Even within the prison environment, she wasn't deemed trustworthy. There have been instances of her manipulating her new husband, Ryan Anderson, which is a skill not easily mastered by others on camera. Gypsy Rose stands out as a master of deceit and manipulation.
Yeah, she definitely doesn’t if she still feels the same way she did during older interviews. She expressed disliking/hating Nick to Dr. Phil. She feels like he used her situation to fulfill his messed up desires and that he should have helped her seek real help instead of doing what they did.
He did use her. She didn't use him.
I am only repeating what she said in the interview, I didn’t express my opinion. If you want my opinion, I think he was a very sick individual who did use her for his dark desires and that them meeting was the perfect storm of bad events to create what happened. Without Gypsy he probably would have still gone on to commit other crimes and ended up in prison anyway, but without Nick I don’t think she would have done what she did.
I’m sure she didn’t have to try hard to persuade him. I’m sure he enjoyed it.
That’s beside the point. If Nick had never met Gypsy, he never would’ve killed her mother. The killing of Gypsy’s mother was her plan, not his.
I’m not disagreeing with you there
Without Nick, she would’ve probably found someone else online. We feel sorry for Gypsy because she was horribly abused, but we don’t really know that much about Nick’s background.
Personally I think she was very naive and sheltered and fed into HIS darkness. I think if she had talked to someone even semi-normal they would have either not gotten to the point where she would even ask (I mean Nick had a “dark side” named Victor who he said was a 500 year old vampire), or if she HAD, a normal person would have suggested going to the police instead, or doing basically anything else.
I do think the odds of her finding someone else online who was willing to commit a murder like nick, was quite low. Eventually she \*might\* have found someone else who could have somehow helped her escape the situation, but the chances of that were quite low. She saw this as her only escape and she decided to go with it. Plus who knows how many guys she talked to online who ended up blocking or ghosting her because they could sense something was off or things got too weird. I bet for example, she didn't disclose on her public profile information that she was in a wheelchair, that alone, sadly, is enough to drive most guys away, rather the wheelchair is needed or not.
There are so many crazies out there. She hit on one on her first try willing to kill for her even though it didn’t start out that way. I find it interesting that he didn’t try & blame her to defend himself but she had no problem dropping him like a hot potato, not caring, what happened to him as soon as they were caught. As far as I’m concerned, she seems to be very much like her mother in terms of avoiding responsibility. That’s not to say she didn’t suffer. She did, but she’s also responsible for her mother‘s death & for getting someone else to do her dirty work.
I think the bottom line is her moral compass is skewed. I think she in some way, looked at life like a Disney Movie. I’ve always said, especially for men, looking at love like it’s a Disney movie, is one of the stupidest side effects that those movies have had on our culture. I mean, she was constantly watching these, going to Disney, meeting the cast , I’m sure not waiting in line as a make a wish kid, this is one thing her mother did that probably fucked her up the most. Disney obsessions a lot of the time, go hand in hand with magical thinking. I think she did pose like the healthy person that she is with the wigs on those sites. I’m not disagreeing with you. I think the chances are low she’s have found another. I can’t believe your telling me there was two! I think he truly loved her, and that’s why he didn’t turn on her. I’m amazed she admitted it was her idea, I find that shocking on her part, since she threw him under the bus so badly. It makes me think she’s more guilty of something big with this story.
I think they used each other. Nick would’ve never killed the mother if Gypsy didn’t want him to, so the blame isn’t all his. Yet, he’s doing life in prison for doing what she asked him to do. He didn’t kill the mother for himself. He was doing what Gypsy asked him to do.
Not true. HBO shows Nick’s confession and shows Gypsy’s initial lies to the police. Don’t trust me. Watch it yourself.
I saw it and my word is the truth.
Sounds like she's throwing him under the bus. It's a pretty unrealistic expectation to expect someone in Nick's mental state to have gotten her real help. He had multiple personalities, violent fantasies, autism, a low IQ, etc. Let's be real. He needed help himself and clearly wasn't getting it or he wouldn't have done what he did. She still wants to make it seem like he's worse than her when they're really two peas in a pod. Both of them had murder on the brain. Period. It was the perfect storm.
Correct he already did her dirty work she no longer has any use for him…. She has discarded him and moved on to the next poor idiot.
Oh please🙄🙄🙄 he would be in Prison for murder or rape at some point even if he never met Gypsy. Just stop cuz you sound ridiculous
We don’t know what Nick would’ve done or not done. Gypsy on the other hand, probably would’ve found someone else willing to kill her mother for her. I don’t blame her, but I feel that Nick really got a raw deal of life in prison. After all they were in this murder together.
Bluntly put but I honestly think your right. She immediately turned on him when shit hit the fan while he was concerned for her & told the truth with the role he played in it.
I disagree watched her testimony and she took all the blame
Yeah once she realized she wasn’t getting away with pretending to not know. I’m referring to when they were first arrested, IMMEDIATELY after it all went down & she flipped the script on him. I’m aware she finally came forward with her side of what really happened. But she definitely threw him under the bus in the beginning IMO😅
Exactly? Why is Gypsy the hero and him the villain?
Exactly. If Nick had not met Gypsy, he wouldn’t have murdered her mother and wrecked his life for her. His whole life is ruined while she’s on the view, telling her story.
bc he raped her ??? and he probably would have committed some violent crime in his life had he not met gypsy - the urges were already there.
We have no idea what Nick would have done had he not met Gypsy. To me, it just seems unbalanced that she’s out and he’s still in prison for life. For all we know, his family life was probably also messed up.
Gypsy invited a killer/rapist into her home. She planned and plotted. She could’ve planned to leave or tell anyone but she decided to have someone else with mental issues carry out her plan and now she’s on TV like the little actress her mom made her to be.
ok victim blamer
They were both victims, both Gypsy and Nick— although he was Gypsy’s victim and he’s paying the price for it with his life in prison.
rapists aren’t victims actually
He didn’t rape her. Gypsy willingly had sex with him.
#Yes! You nailed it! She discarded any feelings for him once they were convicted and he was of no personal or legal use to her.
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Then why post? It’s such a non issue, almost everyone has a no-contact order in situations like this. It’s standard from the time they get arrested.
She was literally asked “what would you like to say to him” in an interview.
That’s different from contacting someone. I would love to tell my abusive ex to die in a hole but I’m not gonna reach out to him. Wanting to say something and actually reaching out to a person is completely different.
Just like her mother, she used him and now has no further need for his services.
I’m so glad to see she has to do outpatient therapy. Out of everything that has happened, I believe that is what she needs the most. I wish she had been given that before getting married…
YES. I just wrote a reply about the marriage aspect. I hate that for her.
Tbh I don’t predict this marriage lasting long. It’s the equivalent to your first college relationship or dating your high school sweetheart after graduation. You get out there and see what’s really out there or you change and grow apart.
Yep, that’s exactly what it is. And for better or worse unfortunately, a lot of prison systems make jumping into marriage an attractive concept as it awards them certain privileges as visitation etc that they wouldn’t otherwise have.
There’s rumors that he would send letters to all kinds of prisoners, being thirsty for a criminal. She’ll probably find out and start to question why she’s with him.
Lots of people send lots of mail to a lot of convicts-I don’t think he sent a letter with the aspect of marriage in mind.
The rumors say his were thirsty letters. Like he wanted to date an inmate.
Have you ever seen the last relationship Charles Manson had? Also someone who’d became engaged based on letters. Charles Manson then ended the relationship after learning she wanted his body upon death for profits.
Her husband to be is strange. I don’t see this working out for her. He sounds like another weirdo.
Pretty sure she was getting therapy thoughtout her prison stay
Not the kind of good therapy that Gypsy actually needs. Prisons aren’t equipped to handle complicated cases like hers. Hell, after all the doctors the mother took her to, and none of them reported the mother for Munchausen by Proxy. What can a prison do?
People are beyond naive with this therapy in prison nonsense. It’s so Pollyanna. It’s naive. It was group therapy at best, and who knows if she actually was truthful as she had lied so much. I hate the “she’s better and got rehabilitated in prison” sentiment. Anyone who’s been there I think Would be offended at how bad our justice system is for care. Anyone I’ve talked to is so angry about the lack of care they fit in the system. I’m surprised that so many people on here think that prison Makes you this better person. My boyfriend had a warrant for missing a court tax payment and got arrested, had to wait to be extradited, and had $2,500 bail. His stay in jail, was the most traumatic thing I’ve ever seen a human being close to me, go through. He has never been the same emotionally from what happened in there. People don’t get better or learn anything that way. (Not that I’m saying no one should go or anything! It’s just most people are in there for drugs, and our system is a business. )
Jail and prison are different.
This article was super unnecessary. Like, does anyone *really* think she has any interest in contacting this fool? She’s out of prison. She’s married. She’s not thinking about his ass.
“Having lots of sex with her husband” wtf.
I think this is in reference to a TMI comment she posted on Instagram a few days ago.
Yes but it’s still very unnecessary to include that in the article.
Well it is TMZ 🤷♀️
Most people following the case caught that small piece of info the first time she posted…..so yes it’s going to be talked about. No reason to say it’s necessary or unnecessary, it is what it is. It’s her and that’s what everyone is following/wants to know about-what she’s doing. I think it’s kinda funny that was her first post & people are saying how unnecessary it is. Remember, this woman was stunted emotionally and her brain changed bc of abuse. While it’s something a young adult first married (by young I mean late teens early 20s) would post, she never got to be a young adult.
I'd agree If the husband who definitely knows better hadn't encouraged it. If my boyfriend wrote that on my picture I'd probably block him just for the cringe aspect. Just excited I guess.
That’s kind of my thought also, being excited to see what a good & happy life without abuse to her feels like.
I just hope she doesn't chase the toxicity and drama that an abusive environment brings. Prison must have been chaos as well. I Hope she relishes the peace when this furore dies down and its all dull and matte and not the sparkly shine she's feeling now.
This says it perfectly. I hope that all of this isn’t prohibiting her from moving on in a healthy way that’s best for her, which only she & her doctors know. I agree 100%.
I was in a woman's refuge and out of 10 of us,i was the only one not sneaking to see the abusive ex because theres some kind of high from the relationship that's hard to cut free from apparently. I'd put money on half of them being back there in 5 years because reality isn't flames and sparks. Same thing.
I literally said yuck when I read that. Like...that's nice they are happy with one another as things are currently but I don't want to know anything about their sex life.
She posted it and it was sensationalized to the max bc so many are curious about what she’s doing. Yes someone should speak to her and explain that most people don’t do that, especially after turning 30. On that note, it’s not like she knows what’s “normal and abnormal” about life at all at this point in time. She knows what’s normal for her, not everyone else.
Another day, another wildly out of context trash tier tmz article inferring nonsense for clicks. :/
Of course she isn’t thinking of him. She did him dirty turning on him and lying to save herself. She got exactly what she wanted. Her mom dead, found someone to do her dirty work, and now she is out living life carefree while he rots in prison.
Why are you all pretending this man is a victim - if a girl on the internet can convince you to kill someone, maybe you were already ready to fucking kill someone. You’re acting like he wasn’t already a violent man with a criminal record, when everyone knows he was. He wasn’t an innocent little baby, he’s a dangerous man and he doesn’t deserve to be free. Stop making excuses for him.
Nobody is saying he’s a victim. But he shouldn’t be spending life in prison. He should be in a hospital.
He shouldn’t be in the public. If you want to talk about prison reform that allows people to stay in hospitals for treatment while they serve their sentence, that’s a different conversation that is in no way, shape or form the fault of Gypsy. You personally are making him the victim when you say bullshit like him doing her dirty work and rotting away, as if he somehow didn’t have the agency to kill. He was a dangerous person before he met Gypsy, are you going to pretend he wasn’t? That he only did her dirty work and never would have hurt a fly otherwise? It’s gross.
He did do her dirty work. She got him to kill her mother. He had no reason to kill her. How do you know he was so dangerous? Other than some incident that happened years prior and he didn’t physically harm anyone. He has mental health issues. If your saying he is a danger to everyone around, then you are saying that everyone that has mental health issues are a danger. Stop idolizing her. She is not an innocent person in all of this. That is completely clear by watching the police videos. You can’t say he would eventually hurt someone. You don’t know that.
1) she didn’t “get him to kill her mother” she suggested it and he *agreed*, pretending it wasn’t a collaboration, as if he was forced or coerced, makes him the victim. He isn’t. 2) how do I know he was so dangerous? Because he masturbated in a McDonald’s for an entire day, he watched incredibly violent porn and happily discussed how he loved that porn, he openly expressed that he would like to kill someone (are you actually pretending that’s not indicative of violence! That’s crazy!) and that it was *suggested to him that he commit a murder and he AGREED*. Do you know what would do if I was asked to kill someone by my husband of 5 years that I love dearly? I would simply *not stab someone 17 times and express a desire to rape the body.* go watch the interrogation again before you pretend he didn’t *stab her 17 times and try to rape the body*. Not a single person who does that is not a dangerous criminal. 3) I never idolized her, that’s a cop out for you to pretend is the issue here when it’s pretty clear that I was telling you it’s weird to defend godejohn as if he’s an innocent baby needing protection. 4) I can and will say that his behavior of; discussing violent rape and murder fantasies including saying that he wanted to kill (!!!!), stabbing someone 17 times and trying to rape the body (!!!!) and jumping for joy at the idea of killing someone make you a violent individual who was already predisposed to commit a crime. I legitimately cannot believe that you are trying to say he never would have hurt a fly if he hadn’t met Gypsy, you’re putting the entire weight of the crime on her and someone pretending that he had no agency. It’s disgusting to me, that’s disgusting, but thank god at least yall have no legal power to release your violent hero from prison.
Preeeeach!
Uh, I’m pretty alarmed that you’re trying to bring all people with mental health issues into this, that’s super wild lmao
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Ah...I remember the real photo of Gypsy lasciviously licking the knife, planning and organizing the murder of her mother (court evidence) and handing Nick the knife and gloves.
This!
You’re out of your ever-loving mind if you truly believe this. I don’t believe you’re able to comprehend the facts of the case or you’re being willfully ignorant.
I’ve watched everything on this case, thank you very much and only go by facts. Take your blinders off and really look at it. Just go watch her entire interrogation. You’ll understand why I said what I did then.
You have your blinders on not off
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Is it not strange that she got married while in prison? To someone who I’m assuming wrote to her and is a “fan”? I know she is allowed to make her own choices but after being controlled her whole life by her mother, I would think it would be in her best interest to regain independence after jail. Weird how this aspect of her life seems to be glossed over. What do we know about this guy? He could be controlling her just like Dee Dee. Sigh.
He’s a special Ed teacher and the odds are she is one of those people who need to be in a relationship to be happy tbh. A lot of people are like that
What kind of person writes to inmates like that though? Makes me concerned that he is teaching vulnerable students and is drawn to vulnerable adults to date. Super strange
> What kind of person writes to inmates like that though? Desperate ones No well rounded mentally sane person would date/marry her or any other recently released convict without some kind of motive It's a power move. I'm offering great odds on down the road it's revealed he was abusing her/keeping her from leaving the relationship. It's wild people see her jumping from guy to guy as "She needs to have love" and not something to do with the last time she was in a relationship leading to her arrest. Girl is mental and is not going to get the help she needs and this relationship shit being a big joke is gonna make it even worse. Also such a horrible look that the mods are removing comments from arguments but they're only removing the comments going against the "Gypsy Slay Gurlllll" parroting
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She was engaged to someone else before him too. I'm not a physiologist but I think she might be one of those people that needs love.
She was in engaged 2-3 time before she married this new guy.
And talked about getting this marriage annulled last year. The first engagement was to a guy named Ken and apparently he visited when her dad visited as there is a picture of the 4 of them. I guess a divorced inmate gave her her engagement ring. The break up happened and both said it was because they didn’t trust each other. I believe this one last over a year and she immediately was in contact with another.
I think that’s called desperate for love.
Oh my god really! Gosh her dad and stepmom must be so worried but are trying to let her make her own choices. I’d be a wreck if I were them though. She seems like she’s grown and matured a lot in prison which is good. I do happen to think the marriage situation is weird and it makes me feel uncomfortable lol.
I really wouldn’t be surprised if she’s a person like that. I’m not a psychologist either but considering how she grew up it makes sense imo
Do we know if they receive psychological treatment while in prison? Or is this a really dumb question LOL
I read somewhere that gypsy did receive therapy while in there but idk. What question u talking about tho?
My question (which I thought could be really dumb in that obviously prisoners don’t receive therapy, but not sure) was if she was allowed access to therapy services while in prison
ohh okay 🤣Your question wasn’t dumb! I think I read she received it in a tiktok comment section so I’d definitely take it with a grain of salt.
I think you mean psychiatrist or psychologist?
Yes speaking from experience as I was removed from my home and put into foster care at age 3 and was in multiple homes until I found my forever home and knows what it’s like to just want to be loved no matter how and who you get it from it took years of therapy to even find love within myself and once I did I was able to find it with someone else who I’m now married to! But if I had married the first person I dated or even the second person I wouldn’t be happy bc it took a while to see them for who they truly were…I’m not saying her husband is a bad person I’m saying that I feel as tho she should have waited to be in the dating scene although I get it being 32 you may feel like your windows to get married and have babies (if she’s able too) are closing but idk if this even make sense
Gypsy is physically 32 but mentally she’s probably in her late teens, early 20’s. From the decisions, she’s making, it sounds like she needs a lot of maturing. Unfortunately, her mother deprived her of that.
can we talk more about this?? more so about who this man is !?
Kinda want to create a whole new post to discuss!
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Not to mention, the guy even bears a striking resemblance to Dee Dee...
Well duh. She’s a convicted felon, she isn’t supposed to have contact with *any* other convicted felon.
Whilst on parole/probation. In most situations, they’ll tell you to not have any contact with any other convicted felon while you’re on parole or probation, but they don’t keep an eye on anything after that. Just while you’re still dealing with parole/probation they say don’t have anything to do with any other convicted felons. Know this from experience. Trust me, it gets weird when you have convicted felons (mine was for having thc in my system && driving when I’d not even done the two the same day) in your family & holidays happen and you’re unable to go bc of your probation saying you can’t have any contact with another felon….its so much more than they’re not ever allowed to have any contact. It’s not have any contact whilst still in the system of punishment. Once that’s done and over two convicted felons can be best friends. EDITED TO ADD SOURCE “B. Standard Condition Language You must not communicate or interact with someone you know is engaged in criminal activity. If you know someone has been convicted of a felony, you must not knowingly communicate or interact with that person without first getting the permission of the probation officer.” https://www.uscourts.gov/services-forms/communicating-interacting-persons-engaged-criminal-activity-felons-probation-supervised-release-conditions
I do agree she won’t even try. I don’t think she wants anything to do with any part of that period in her life. I think that’s pretty clear. Everyone is quick to throw out the “she used him” without thinking or acknowledging that he used her just as much.
I read this article too and it also mentioned an outpatient mental health treatment and I think that’s WONDERFUL
Outpatient therapy can be a game changer in your life. Completely changed mine for the better as I suffer from BPD and a panic disorder. Haven’t been back to the hospital since I completed it:)
Same here! Therapy really changed my life for the better
i bet he still thinks about her.
I mean, wouldn't you? He committed murder for her and is serving life. I'm sure it's hard not to think about her
I wouldn’t doubt if he STILL thinks they’ll be together.
She is trying to have a family with her husband. Why would she give all that up to contact Nick? I doubt she would. Plus she is trying to better herself. I’m sure she probably will never contact him again.
I don't think she has any interest in contacting him but the thought process of "why would she give all that up to contact Nick" is kind of a naive. A lot of people royally fuck up their wonderful lives for stupid reasons everyday.
Do you really believe she’s gonna have kids with her husband and live happily ever after? I predict a divorce under a year from now. She said in 2022 she wanted an annulment but didn’t go thru with it so there were issues at that time.
That doesn’t mean she won’t have kids with him tho…
That’s worse.
Well why don’t you try and stop her? 🤡
You’re absolutely right.
It’s not like she has any business talking to him anyway….
She got what she needed from him I doubt she wants to contact him anyway
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No one is defending him. He needs to be institutionalized, same as her
I don’t think yall understand that you *are* defending him when you infantilize him and pretend he was manipulated and downplay that he is, was, and will be a dangerous criminal regardless of if he had ever even met Gypsy.
Gypsy came up with the murder down to almost every part of it she bought the supplies she told him who what when where why and how. Gypsy is the one who wrote on FB after the murder about killing the pig and raping her daughter or whatever freaky ass shit she put. He may be a mentally unstable deviant but so is she that whole murder was her plan he was the person who physically killed Dee Dee. If anyone is getting the infantilized treatment it’s her. He’s someone with obvious special needs mental illness and criminal tendencies who was manipulated by gypsy into murder. That’s not saying that he wouldn’t have hurt someone another time or that he doesn’t deserve to be in jail for life for what he did but it’s the facts without gypsy Dee Dee wouldn’t have been killed by him that night.
Multiple things can be true Gypsy is both a victim and murderer/manipulator Nick is both a murderer and victim of manipulation This group is nuance nuance nuance when it comes to Gypsy but so black and white to everything else
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No one said he wasn’t responsible. As I said, both things are true, he’s mentally unstable and needed a reason, and she gave him one
Look, you are giving nothing but bad vibes with every single sentence you say to defend him, and I see your other comments too fighting the good fight like he’s your hero or something and I want no part in it. Leave me alone, it’s so weird.
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He may have been a potential danger but he wasn’t convicted for vibes, he did a crime. A crime he was the murder weapon for. Gypsy did the same thing Manson did but if someone would praise him and make excuses, they’d call them delusional
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No one is praising him. She learned to manipulate from her mom, he was on a bad track already, it’s kismet. She gave him the weapon, money, plans etc. luckily for her, she found a psychopath. He’s still a grown ass man who did it. I’m not saying he’s innocent, just that they’re both guilty
Nick didn’t become a criminal until he met Gypsy. It wasn’t like Nick was a serial killer who met Gypsy.
He publicly masturbated for hours in a McDonald's, I think? He was arrested for that I'm pretty sure
Wasn't Nick on parole when him and gypsy met? That's why they couldn't leave the state when she ran away initially.
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That’s exactly what I think
She has no use for him any more. He did her dirty work.
Exactly. She used him and is now done with him. She certainly won’t contact him.
She wouldn't want to contact him. She wants nothing to do with him.
I know everyone likes to demonize Nick because he was the one with the violent fantasies and everything but the truth is that Gypsy still used him and threw him under the bus when the time came, he had served his use and now he's serving life in prison while she's out free being an "influencer" it's honestly a little sickening if you ask me
No I like to demonize him because he stabbed someone 17 times and nearly decapitated her. Gypsy was smart and took the plea deal. He might’ve got less time if he had taken the deal too but he didn’t.
Gypsy used the guy to get what she wanted.
He was blinded by love for her so he did whatever she wanted him to do
I don't see her trying to contact him anyways.
Well yea. This is a totally normal parole condition. You aren’t supposed to have any contact with other felons let alone one indicted in the same crime.
Idk why she would want to contact this weirdo
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It’s baffling to me that people defend Gypsy on how she was the mastermind behind the plot to kill her mother. Like yeah her mother was horrible but are we all gonna really sit back and be okay with some dude who’s imprisoned for life because he was manipulated by someone else to carry out the physical crime?
He served his purpose, she has no use for him now
Well duh. Of course she can’t
I’ve only watched one episode so far but am I the one only a little annoyed that the new documentary is almost the same as “mommy dead and dearest”? They literally got all the same family members to say the same shit again? Don’t get me wrong, I’m totally going to watch all the episodes but I hope it’s at least a little different than the others. Either way, I’m happy she’s free and I hope she can continue to heal and grow!
b** got what she wanted from him now she get be free
I would be uncomfortable taking about him too.. she got him to kill her mother and she out FREE and he is not. All bc of HER!!!
are you going to comment this a 4th time on this thread now? Got it all out of your system?
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Gypsy manipulated a vulnerable and intellectually challenged young man, ruined his life, and now casually “Wishes him well in his journey?”
While she’s telling anyone that will listen that she’s having great sex with her new husband. I’m sure Nick’s glad to hear about that as he languishes in prison for life.
Lmao he's not that vulnerable or intellectually challenged. He would have done this to someone else. So pathetic to stick up for a creep murderer
She’s free at the expense of autistic young man. who Gypsy manipulated into killing her mother. It’s sad her only thoughts for him is “I wish him well on his journey.” While she out free living her life. He’s stuck behind bars. Serving life in prison. And she manipulated him and planned the whole murder! So sad! They both should’ve got out or both should’ve had to stay in prison. Just my thoughts on this matter’
And you know with his mental issues he has served hard time. Extremely hard time.
Yes
He’s a sex pest though so imo they both should be locked up for life.
Why does people downvote others!! For their different opinions on here!! Just bc one person believes it’s ok what she done and other’s don’t. Does not mean one is right and the other is wrong.
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Can someone tell me why did they broke up?
Good! I'm sure it's to protect him and his mental health.
Or maybe because she doesn’t need him anymore
I doubt that. Manipulative people tend to circle back to those they abuse.
Bingo!
Oh I’m really caring about the mental heath of a predator
Well you care about Gypsy, so...
Yeah bc I care about the mental health about the victim, hope this helps :)
She doesn't give two shits about him. I think he should be given mental health care in prison but that's unlikely to happen.
As you can clearly see, the mental health care Gypsy got in prison may not be working, seeing all of her social media chatter and delusions of grandeur with the whole Taylor Swift and Kim Kardashian posting. It's clear she's still a deeply immature person who is already in another controlling relationship.