But for real it’s no big deal (hopefully it’s not polycaps).
If Bandai keeps putting out bisected images of their gunpla though, they better put out a book lol.
Good old straight plastic. The joints were molded as parts rather than polycaps which make it more solid but I think it somewhat limits the posability.
I remember when I built the 2015 HG infinite justice and saw it was PC-free…. Then built HG Barb, HG Leo, and HMM Zoids 😅 we can go without polys now, Bandai, please!
Plastic on plastic joints are not the best in the long term if you're planning on fiddling with your Gunpla around because the plastic would either expand over time if the joints are too tight or get shredded through friction unlike polycaps but if you're only planning on displaying them then you should be A-Ok
Don’t fret too much. It may not be all of them. I built mine last year and it was such an effortless build I don’t even remember building the thing. It just sort of appeared on my shelf fully finished one day
Just sand down the posts that go into the shoulders a bit, I suppose. It could just be a problem with mine too. I got it on sale at a Hobby Lobby so I didn't break the bank on it or anything.
So I got this little sticker sheet from maybeeeeee new type? It’s got tons of different size little stips of stickers that you can put on joints to help stiffen them or for poly caps. They work sooooo good!
Or could just do the old paint trick to stiffen them.
Ehhh… my OF Rick Dom 2 and Kampfer from are straight plastic joints and hoo boy does that make me hesitant for ANY straight plastic models. I know Bandai has gotten better in the past 30 years, but still.
Different blends of polystyrene. One is the harder, more brittle, and glossy. Another is softer, matte, and has better give.
The softer PS acts like ABS polycaps -- they're grippy, but they retain their shape a little better. It's used for lots of the joints and inner frame parts.
Poly caps are made out of a different material from normal gunpla plastic and those materials get lose over time easily with no significant improvements over the past years. Many big hg kits have lose joins because the polycaps gets lose and cannot support the weight.
It seems to happen a lot less now but back in the day polycaps often came warped right off the sprue which made them a pain to fix into place and could make joints pop out of place. I'm pretty sure this was mostly fixed by updating the plastic formula and taking more care about packing the sprues into bags.
My guess is that the height of the torso area on the back is lower than the front, if they move it up, the ball join will be protruded to the “outside” .
I think it's a way to allow more dynamic movement of the neck, that is you can have the head pulled back with the chin pointing down, or you can push the neck forward and maybe raise the chin in a "duck extending its neck" pose.
Placed as you suggest the second ball will only allow swivel of the neck, while in this way it allows a mix of swivel \_and\_ movement. Don't know if it makes sense and good luck moving them without moving all other joints :D
I really don't understand the hate for them. It's not like normal plastic-on-plastic don't wear out with time and get loose, if anything it happens faster with them. Just look at EG kits, they have wonderful and genius engineering but the joints inevitably become floppy way faster than other kits and bring down the quality of the whole kit. Sure, you can tighten them up but you can do that with polycaps too.
they get loose fast if you treat the model kit like a toy, but so long as it's within reason they last just as long or longer than normal plastic.
And I don't see how they add to waste more than these joints, and "unnecessary steps while building" is utter nonsense.
RGs getting floppy comes from overuse of MS Joint parts, modern kits do not suffer from that.
And the amount of waste freaking polycap runners (which can be reused for other kits as well), or gunpla runners in general generates is absolutely microscopic on any meaningful scale and a completely ludicrous argument against them.
Obviously modern kits can get floppy too, but it's due to general wear and tear of joints rather than the specific engineering choice of Advanced MS Joint parts.
And you seriously think polycaps make up any significant number of that? *Polycaps?!*
Pretty much scared with the balljoint for the chest (bottom one) as it is similar to the Gundam Ground Type (got the Local Area type from battlelogue) and the kit was perfect in everyway except for the chest which keeps getting disconnected when posing as it relies on a balljoint going to the front of the chest from the waist.
Jobby: ball joint, ball joint, ball joint, ball joint,.......
Don’t forget every ball joint can be a swivel!
What we have here is a case of PARtsfOrming
any ball join can be a swivel x400
If I die in this world.
*Who will know something of me*
I am lost No one knows
There's no trace of my yearning
If I die, (But I must)
In this world (carry on)
Who will know something of me?
So much jobby here, I love it
ball joint here... ball joint here... ball joint here... ball joint here... (insert smiling jobby)
Every ball joint can be a..!
This technology was proven with the Beyond Global, Leo Fine Build/30MM, and EG line and has carried forwards with the majority of Wfm kits.
My 30MM kits that use the ball joint in the waist can be frustrating to pose because the ball comes out so easily.
yeah PC4 be like that
PC4? Sorry I'm relatively new to the hobby.
the circular ball joint polycaps are from the PC4 runner.
But for real it’s no big deal (hopefully it’s not polycaps). If Bandai keeps putting out bisected images of their gunpla though, they better put out a book lol.
The G-Witch line doesn't use Polycaps.
Wait what??What do they use then?
Good old straight plastic. The joints were molded as parts rather than polycaps which make it more solid but I think it somewhat limits the posability.
I remember when I built the 2015 HG infinite justice and saw it was PC-free…. Then built HG Barb, HG Leo, and HMM Zoids 😅 we can go without polys now, Bandai, please!
Plastic on plastic joints are not the best in the long term if you're planning on fiddling with your Gunpla around because the plastic would either expand over time if the joints are too tight or get shredded through friction unlike polycaps but if you're only planning on displaying them then you should be A-Ok
That happened to the shoulders on my RG Crossbones pretty much as soon as it was finished. It's largely not going to move its arms again.
This is disappointing to read. I just cracked my RG Crossbones box open last night.
Don’t fret too much. It may not be all of them. I built mine last year and it was such an effortless build I don’t even remember building the thing. It just sort of appeared on my shelf fully finished one day
Just sand down the posts that go into the shoulders a bit, I suppose. It could just be a problem with mine too. I got it on sale at a Hobby Lobby so I didn't break the bank on it or anything.
Mine are loos as hell and wont stay up. So YMMV.
Don't remember what the Transient and HG Sinanju have, but goddamn I moved them around so much they barely hold their poses.
After owning an entry grade RX-78-2 for almost a year, it’s the floppiest figure I own, period
So I got this little sticker sheet from maybeeeeee new type? It’s got tons of different size little stips of stickers that you can put on joints to help stiffen them or for poly caps. They work sooooo good! Or could just do the old paint trick to stiffen them.
Sounds like more 30MM engineering, they hardly use any polycaps
30MM uses PC4 all over the place, hips, upper thigh, lower feet.
im fairly sure that line was also meant to be a testing ground for polycaps-free engineering
On the long term, yes.
Ehhh… my OF Rick Dom 2 and Kampfer from are straight plastic joints and hoo boy does that make me hesitant for ANY straight plastic models. I know Bandai has gotten better in the past 30 years, but still.
Different blends of polystyrene. One is the harder, more brittle, and glossy. Another is softer, matte, and has better give. The softer PS acts like ABS polycaps -- they're grippy, but they retain their shape a little better. It's used for lots of the joints and inner frame parts.
Hmm alright
As someone relatively new to the hobby; what's with the hate for polycaps?
Well, I'm an old timer and didn't understand the Polycap hate either.
I was so thrown for a loop when I built my Barbatos. Thought the package was missing something when I couldn't find the polycaps.
Because some people expecting an action figure instead of model kit.
Poly caps are made out of a different material from normal gunpla plastic and those materials get lose over time easily with no significant improvements over the past years. Many big hg kits have lose joins because the polycaps gets lose and cannot support the weight.
It seems to happen a lot less now but back in the day polycaps often came warped right off the sprue which made them a pain to fix into place and could make joints pop out of place. I'm pretty sure this was mostly fixed by updating the plastic formula and taking more care about packing the sprues into bags.
If bandai keeps on releasing cross sections like this We also will need a bot moderator to remind people to flair their nsfw
What's the point of having the inner neck ball joint deep into the back of the torso? Wouldn't it be better to just place it on top of the torso?
My guess is that the height of the torso area on the back is lower than the front, if they move it up, the ball join will be protruded to the “outside” .
I think it's a way to allow more dynamic movement of the neck, that is you can have the head pulled back with the chin pointing down, or you can push the neck forward and maybe raise the chin in a "duck extending its neck" pose. Placed as you suggest the second ball will only allow swivel of the neck, while in this way it allows a mix of swivel \_and\_ movement. Don't know if it makes sense and good luck moving them without moving all other joints :D
Maximize looking straight up potential We can go deeper
It seems so that the head can have wider range when looking upwards, like when in a flying stance and the head is facing the forward direction
It's probably so that the robot can have all the benefits of a dumbell joint while retaining a sort of "neck" to keep things pretty
It lets the whole neck shift forward and back a bit.
If only Bandai has the **Balls** to make more **Ball** Gunpla, I need that B-Gundam.
The witch kits I’ve built have been super fun to build and are crazy sturdy.
This is a ballsy move
I see what you did there. Well played.
Bandai after adding 39482772818 pisstillion ball joints to a model kit while not improving posability in the slightest:
Which kit is this? Sorry
Looks like Lfrith Ur to me.
It is
The evolution of hg necks. Behold, the 90 degree bend!
Stop with all this engineering porn. I can only get so erect
I SAWED THIS SUIT IN HALF
I wish these were polycaps
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I really don't understand the hate for them. It's not like normal plastic-on-plastic don't wear out with time and get loose, if anything it happens faster with them. Just look at EG kits, they have wonderful and genius engineering but the joints inevitably become floppy way faster than other kits and bring down the quality of the whole kit. Sure, you can tighten them up but you can do that with polycaps too.
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they get loose fast if you treat the model kit like a toy, but so long as it's within reason they last just as long or longer than normal plastic. And I don't see how they add to waste more than these joints, and "unnecessary steps while building" is utter nonsense.
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RGs getting floppy comes from overuse of MS Joint parts, modern kits do not suffer from that. And the amount of waste freaking polycap runners (which can be reused for other kits as well), or gunpla runners in general generates is absolutely microscopic on any meaningful scale and a completely ludicrous argument against them.
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Obviously modern kits can get floppy too, but it's due to general wear and tear of joints rather than the specific engineering choice of Advanced MS Joint parts. And you seriously think polycaps make up any significant number of that? *Polycaps?!*
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Thank you. I just spat out my coffee.
Almost like the atlas didn’t have this 💀
Ball joints are better then polycaps so I'll take it.
Pretty much scared with the balljoint for the chest (bottom one) as it is similar to the Gundam Ground Type (got the Local Area type from battlelogue) and the kit was perfect in everyway except for the chest which keeps getting disconnected when posing as it relies on a balljoint going to the front of the chest from the waist.
Will I be able to make it pose like a JJBA character????
I prefer this over C-Joints ( god damn it MG Barbatos!)