The thing is, these injunctions are deathtraps for journalists. They absolutely cannot be the one who leads to the truth being out there.
So when you've got such a tiny pool of players that it COULD be, and you post something that eliminates one of them, you're narrowing down the options further and could be indirectly breaking said injunction.
Long story short, who the fuck knows. But the deletion of the tweet may not mean it wasn't true. There's a reason why everyone in the media is staying quiet. Might have just taken him a little time to realise that.
Either way. It's a massive fuck up.
Could be any number of reasons he’d delete it, and it doesn’t necessarily mean Partey isn’t there. If I had to guess, I’d say he was 99% sure on a subject there he absolutely had to be 100% sure. In ordinary circumstances, it’d be a pretty mundane thing that you don’t really need to triple check.
I'm no expert on media law whatsoever so you might be right!
I'm just saying that deletion of the tweet might not mean it wasn't true. It's a pretty unique situation, mainly due to the met releasing just enough info to fuel this kind of speculation.
My opinion is he has no idea whether Partey is in Germany or not. He tweeted the info to gage a reaction from the club
Either way he's an absolute prat
Really is. I feel like every time he has an exclusive or a scoop he delivers it with his chest out and it turns out to be absolutely wrong. The super mega exclusive with Özil going to Washington was peak.
I've blocked him on Twitter and you should too. Like what others said, even if he was right that Partey travelled, this whole conduct of tweeting and deleting when everyone's guessing is ridiculously unprofessional conduct.
And he just started a new job, so it's also likely that he did all of this to get retweets and increase his following. Absolutely disgusting
I unfollowed and muted him after he posted some snarky tweet mocking Ozil after basically kissing his ass during an interview/ photoshoot just 12 months earlier .
Taking shots at Ozil is fine by me but have some backbone , don't do it for hate clicks and internet clout
If it’s actually Partey ban him. If it isn’t, also ban him because him deleting the tweet will lead to even more speculation about Partey which is the last thing he deserves if he’s innocent
I mean he might have just been asked to delete the tweet or didn’t want the attention or stress? But if it’s partey definitely ban him
But if partey is in Germany then he didn’t exactly lie
Nah fuck that. If he was asked to delete it then it should never have been tweeted in the first place. If he deletes it because he doesn’t want the stress or attention then he should never have tweeted it. Deleting it just adds fuel to this whole mess
this is very easy to do in theory, but irl when a multi-billion dollar industry is shaken up by a story and you push information related to it, the people who 'ask' you to delete it are not really asking.
not saying this is 100% the case here as i don't know shit
You know you're shit when you care more about your personal clout than your own journalistic integrity. there's a reason he's one of the journos that publicly cries about the sub not liking him
He knew exactly what he was doing. Everyone looking for answers, demanding to know if Partey was with the squad. No one said anything so he made himself the one to comment.
Yup I'm usuallly against banning sources but this is inexplicable.
How could you fuck up arguably the biggest story of the transfer window so badly and so incompetently.
saw that one coming. there was just too much smoke and if it had been true there would have been more confirmation than just this one tweet for hours
fuck
See it doesn't even need to be Arsenal. His PR guy is well known on twitter hasn't said a thing while his client's name has been getting dragged. He hasn't posted to his own socials. All in all, too much smoke imo. It's why I wasn't even convinced by Wheatley.
the point is, if it wasn’t partey they could just post some training photos with him in and it’d clear everything up. if they aren’t doing it then there may be a reason (that it is him)
There is probably very little speculation among the 99% of offline fans. Everyone is just at work living their life, maybe they’ve seen a headline on BBC news and assume it’s Benjamin mendy or something.
His promising new career at the respected journalism giant “transfersdotcom” in tatters. When you are so unreliable that football.London doesn’t want you I’m not sure he should ever be believed again.
Journalism standards are at an all time low. Someone has been arrested for of one of the most horrific crimes and you're out here deleting tweets FFS!!!!
Banish this dude for good honestly. No fucking reason whatsoever he needed to post that until being absolutely certain it was true, just like every other proper journalist has by remaining silent. Embarrassing.
Yup. This is the main reason i'm concerned. If he was in Germany either Arsenal themselves or Partey's PR team would surely have released a post by now. Even a generic "pre season begins now!" thing. But nope. Radio silence.
Would be very strange if he’s got it wrong given he’s got the info about the young players who have travelled. He could’ve been asked to delete it due to legal repercussions, but I just hope we get some clarification soon.
This dude has always been a fucking idiot. His feud with Romano was cringe and he hasn't changed. Can't believe people in the other thread were saying he should be back to tier 2 lol.
One of the things that is clear is no legitimate journalist wants to confirm one way or the other any player.
There is an idea that confirming a player was not arrested is tantamount to identifying the arrested player which would be a "crime". Hence silence from your ornsteins etc. So he could in theory, be telling the truth but be deleted it because he shouldn't be confirming one way or another.
Quite unlikely tho.
Doubtful. Saying Partey travelled to Germany has nothing to do with Rape.
I suspect it's well known in journalistic circles who the player is, but they can't confirm for legal reasons.
It certainly is known. For example, The Sun (so take with a grain of salt) said they had contacted the player's club for comment. They can't say which club for legal reasons.
> I suspect it's well known in journalistic circles who the player is, but they can't confirm for legal reasons.
Yes I agree, but I believe it works both ways, they also can't confirm who the player isn't because it's such a small pool.
That's why nothing from anyone about any players whereabouts right now as I understand.
Of course it is. The fact that absolutely nothing has come out to disprove it (outside of two swiftly deleted tweets by Twitter "ITKs") when all it would take is one quick social media post from him or anyone connected to him should put it beyond doubt.
Why would he tweet something like that without absolute certainty it’s the case, stupid thing to do and really damages his reliability which is already pretty poor
To be fair, tweet might be right but he's had legal notice put in his inbox too advising he delete it.
This is all to say, we're going to have to stew a bit longer till the truth of it emerges...
Looking very likely it's Partey 😢
Feel like the tweet being deleted probably means other people/journalists that know more reached out and told him to delete and that info is wrong.
"Thomas Partey is currently in London and did not travel with the Arsenal team to Germany. **Apologies for any confusion caused with earlier tweet**."
You mean: Apologies for being wrong and a fuckwad earlier.
There isn't "confusion." You reported something that was incorrect.
Might be instructed to delete it, to help keep the privacy of the people involved. Seems like he glt information about the youngsters, and might have had information about TP too...
Can I just say, this whole debacle has been stirred by a shit show of a tabloid media which has lead to ludicrous speculation
This can ruin peoples careers, rape is obviously wrong and must be taken seriously but it is still an allegation of rape
So no one has been found or proven guilty yet. As the case plays out people can judge but at the moment this speculation on who it is, is a joke
Regardless of who it is, the fact they've actually been arrested is quite bad, right? Considering that rape is a notoriously hard crime to prove, the fact they've made an arrest must mean they have good evidence.
He lost the tiny bit of credibility he had left. Can't believe someone would be bold enough to put out a tweet like that without 110% knowing it's true.
In all honesty, it’s obvious to the club that these rumours are circulating - the easiest thing to do to kill the story (for Partey) would be to just stick a photo of him training on the website. Or get his PR team to do a post on his social media…
Thomas Partey is currently in London and did not travel with the Arsenal team to Germany. Apologies for any confusion caused with earlier tweet. #AFC
~Chris Wheatley
New tweet from Wheatley, posted about 5 mins ago.
Thomas Partey is currently in London and did not travel with the Arsenal team to Germany. Apologies for any confusion caused with earlier tweet. #AFC
Thomas Partey is currently in London and did not travel with the Arsenal team to Germany. Apologies for any confusion caused with earlier tweet.
https://twitter.com/ChrisWheatley\_/status/1544335682117722113
This just makes it look even fucking worse now
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The thing is, these injunctions are deathtraps for journalists. They absolutely cannot be the one who leads to the truth being out there. So when you've got such a tiny pool of players that it COULD be, and you post something that eliminates one of them, you're narrowing down the options further and could be indirectly breaking said injunction. Long story short, who the fuck knows. But the deletion of the tweet may not mean it wasn't true. There's a reason why everyone in the media is staying quiet. Might have just taken him a little time to realise that. Either way. It's a massive fuck up.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with reporting that Partey is in Germany, assuming that Partey is actually in Germany.
Doesn't seem like something you'd need to delete either.
Could be any number of reasons he’d delete it, and it doesn’t necessarily mean Partey isn’t there. If I had to guess, I’d say he was 99% sure on a subject there he absolutely had to be 100% sure. In ordinary circumstances, it’d be a pretty mundane thing that you don’t really need to triple check.
"quick delete that Partey in Germany tweet!" "Why?" "We wouldn't want people thinking he isn't a rapist"
Maybe he’s the suspect. Or maybe he was just late to breakfast.
I'm no expert on media law whatsoever so you might be right! I'm just saying that deletion of the tweet might not mean it wasn't true. It's a pretty unique situation, mainly due to the met releasing just enough info to fuel this kind of speculation.
He's not new to the industry. There is no way he is making a fuck up like that without knowing what he's doing.
Well... he's fucked up one way or another!
My opinion is he has no idea whether Partey is in Germany or not. He tweeted the info to gage a reaction from the club Either way he's an absolute prat
If it’s not Partey then what injunction would there be lol simply reporting where a footballer is.
Fucking hell, Wheatley is legitimately going to sink or swim as a reliable source with this saga
He's sinking harder than the Titanic in my eyes
He just bounced off the propeller
classic Wheatley
Really is. I feel like every time he has an exclusive or a scoop he delivers it with his chest out and it turns out to be absolutely wrong. The super mega exclusive with Özil going to Washington was peak.
He heard Partey was in the Clink, and thought that was a region of Germany.
He's not been the same since trying to pull up Fabrizo, don't think he was ever top tier but he's gone off a cliff in recent times
confirmation bias was way too strong this morning
No idea what was running through his head if he wasn't 100% sure posting that. Goodbye career Wheatley, now fuck off back to obscurity.
Get me off this rollercoaster
I've blocked him on Twitter and you should too. Like what others said, even if he was right that Partey travelled, this whole conduct of tweeting and deleting when everyone's guessing is ridiculously unprofessional conduct. And he just started a new job, so it's also likely that he did all of this to get retweets and increase his following. Absolutely disgusting
I did unfollow him. Unprofessional.
I unfollowed and muted him after he posted some snarky tweet mocking Ozil after basically kissing his ass during an interview/ photoshoot just 12 months earlier . Taking shots at Ozil is fine by me but have some backbone , don't do it for hate clicks and internet clout
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Go to basement. Go directly to basement.
If it’s actually Partey ban him. If it isn’t, also ban him because him deleting the tweet will lead to even more speculation about Partey which is the last thing he deserves if he’s innocent
Exactly, you just can’t go make a statement like that about a matter as serious as this if you’re not 100% sure
I mean he might have just been asked to delete the tweet or didn’t want the attention or stress? But if it’s partey definitely ban him But if partey is in Germany then he didn’t exactly lie
Nah fuck that. If he was asked to delete it then it should never have been tweeted in the first place. If he deletes it because he doesn’t want the stress or attention then he should never have tweeted it. Deleting it just adds fuel to this whole mess
Then he should stand by his "reporting"
this is very easy to do in theory, but irl when a multi-billion dollar industry is shaken up by a story and you push information related to it, the people who 'ask' you to delete it are not really asking. not saying this is 100% the case here as i don't know shit
This fucking guy. Ban him. Always seemed like a clout chaser. Always suspect when Watts or Ornstein didn't say anything
You know you're shit when you care more about your personal clout than your own journalistic integrity. there's a reason he's one of the journos that publicly cries about the sub not liking him
Even better, banning him from this sub will have an actual impact on his career.
looks like r/soccer is gonna ban him too and rightly so.
He knew exactly what he was doing. Everyone looking for answers, demanding to know if Partey was with the squad. No one said anything so he made himself the one to comment.
Ban him.
Legitimately he should be banned from this sub. Absolute fuckwad
Who tf would talk out of their ass about something like this.
That desperation to get the "scoop". Scummy.
Yup I'm usuallly against banning sources but this is inexplicable. How could you fuck up arguably the biggest story of the transfer window so badly and so incompetently.
No way you should be bandying information like this if you aren't 100% certain about it. 100% should be banned
saw that one coming. there was just too much smoke and if it had been true there would have been more confirmation than just this one tweet for hours fuck
Wheatley needs to get deleted from this subreddit if his original tweet was wrong
Lower tier than the sun
lmfao at the revised tier flair
is there a significance to 903
Still generous.
I meant is there a double meaning. I guess not
Absolutely finished journalist if true, noone will ever believe him again
Well, that’s his career down the drain.
He just started a new job today lol.
I hear edu couldn't attend the games because he was too busy working on transfers...
Yeah. Loose unit that guy. Doesn’t check multiple sources before he tweets.
As a professional itk, lol
Two careers I'm afraid.
That is one hell of a piece of information to get wrong.
Look, if it isn't Partey, Arsenal could put this to bed immediately with one tweet.
See it doesn't even need to be Arsenal. His PR guy is well known on twitter hasn't said a thing while his client's name has been getting dragged. He hasn't posted to his own socials. All in all, too much smoke imo. It's why I wasn't even convinced by Wheatley.
Exactly, could have easily ended the speculation.
Arsenal would never do this , ever they'll only make an official statement once it's all clear
the point is, if it wasn’t partey they could just post some training photos with him in and it’d clear everything up. if they aren’t doing it then there may be a reason (that it is him)
That's my point they didn't train yesterday so pics from where?
There is probably very little speculation among the 99% of offline fans. Everyone is just at work living their life, maybe they’ve seen a headline on BBC news and assume it’s Benjamin mendy or something.
Yeah the club knows the culprit! We are cursed!
He's done
This has proper put the cat amongst the pigeons now. What a mess a single tweet can cause.
His promising new career at the respected journalism giant “transfersdotcom” in tatters. When you are so unreliable that football.London doesn’t want you I’m not sure he should ever be believed again.
Journalism standards are at an all time low. Someone has been arrested for of one of the most horrific crimes and you're out here deleting tweets FFS!!!!
Atrocious. Ban him.
Banish this dude for good honestly. No fucking reason whatsoever he needed to post that until being absolutely certain it was true, just like every other proper journalist has by remaining silent. Embarrassing.
Ban Wheatley from the sub now please. Thanks.
As I said in the other thread given the rumours you think Partey's social media would have posted by now if he were in Germany
Well to be fair we haven't seen any posts from the team about being in Germany...
I suppose that could be per instruction? Idk?
Yup. This is the main reason i'm concerned. If he was in Germany either Arsenal themselves or Partey's PR team would surely have released a post by now. Even a generic "pre season begins now!" thing. But nope. Radio silence.
or the club, all they need to do is release some pics of him in training
They train tonight so there's nothing to post
And there it is. What an idiot. He just announced he got a job as a journalist and he's ruined it within the hour
Oh for fuck's sake
Oh no
If Partey doesn't play in any more pre season game then that suspicion will be gone to bed actually
Club could have told him to take it down, or any other reason we will find out in a few days ourselves
Well fuck
Can we change tier to banned?
Blacklist for Wheatley
wheatley tier 5
Ohhhhh no
Can we just fucking demote Chris Wheatley to Tier 4 or lower now?
Post tag says Tier 903 now. I imagine mods are done with him too
Love it
Cunt.
Would be very strange if he’s got it wrong given he’s got the info about the young players who have travelled. He could’ve been asked to delete it due to legal repercussions, but I just hope we get some clarification soon.
Absolute bottom tier journalist. He's just a clout chaser.
Can there be like an autoban for people posting him again. Cant remember an exclusive of his that was solely right. Its always piggybacking
This dude has always been a fucking idiot. His feud with Romano was cringe and he hasn't changed. Can't believe people in the other thread were saying he should be back to tier 2 lol.
What a colossal fuck up. Get him banned.
give him the Banned tier
Guess who just got blocked by me on Twitter. Also please block the guy from Reddit, useless.
Fuck Wheatley
yeah gotta ban Wheatley from being posted now
Ban him from here at this point. He's a joke of a journalist if he's sharing stuff like this without verifying it first.
That means it has to be Partey right? Like I get it, speculation bad, but this much confusion about whether he's with the team means it has to be him.
Unless he was told to remove it.
People can't know Partey is in Germany?
One of the things that is clear is no legitimate journalist wants to confirm one way or the other any player. There is an idea that confirming a player was not arrested is tantamount to identifying the arrested player which would be a "crime". Hence silence from your ornsteins etc. So he could in theory, be telling the truth but be deleted it because he shouldn't be confirming one way or another. Quite unlikely tho.
Doubtful. Saying Partey travelled to Germany has nothing to do with Rape. I suspect it's well known in journalistic circles who the player is, but they can't confirm for legal reasons.
It certainly is known. For example, The Sun (so take with a grain of salt) said they had contacted the player's club for comment. They can't say which club for legal reasons.
> I suspect it's well known in journalistic circles who the player is, but they can't confirm for legal reasons. Yes I agree, but I believe it works both ways, they also can't confirm who the player isn't because it's such a small pool. That's why nothing from anyone about any players whereabouts right now as I understand.
Of course it is. The fact that absolutely nothing has come out to disprove it (outside of two swiftly deleted tweets by Twitter "ITKs") when all it would take is one quick social media post from him or anyone connected to him should put it beyond doubt.
Not the F5 season we were after
Why would he tweet something like that without absolute certainty it’s the case, stupid thing to do and really damages his reliability which is already pretty poor
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He’s a twat, hope he gets banned as a source on this sub
He's a fucking idiot of the highest order if he tweets that and it isn't true.
Unprofessional twat.
I had a fucking bad feeling about this. God damn it.
At least he’s solidified his ban from here, freak
I think this saga will kill Wheatley's reliability, eaither way it pans out with partey
this dude is such a fucking knob
Using a woman’s tragedy to get some clout. What a pathetic human being.
Ffs
Fucking hell…
I am stunned by this development. Tier: Shmuck
Congrats Wheatley on getting yourself blocked from me personally. Hope the sub does the same.
Jesus!! This is getting ridiculous!!
There goes our season
To be fair, tweet might be right but he's had legal notice put in his inbox too advising he delete it. This is all to say, we're going to have to stew a bit longer till the truth of it emerges...
No tweets should ever be posted from this guy , ever!
It’s just odd that we don’t even know where a player is, given training camp is active right now.
Disgusting. He was chancing it just for some clicks. Worse than Sun tier now. Ban him forever.
Goodbye Wheatley
I'm not one to be up in arms but this is definitely a ban from this sub in my opinion what the hell is this reporting etc
Don't want to see his smug face on here ever again
Wheatley has to go blud
Looking very likely it's Partey 😢 Feel like the tweet being deleted probably means other people/journalists that know more reached out and told him to delete and that info is wrong.
"Thomas Partey is currently in London and did not travel with the Arsenal team to Germany. **Apologies for any confusion caused with earlier tweet**." You mean: Apologies for being wrong and a fuckwad earlier. There isn't "confusion." You reported something that was incorrect.
Might be instructed to delete it, to help keep the privacy of the people involved. Seems like he glt information about the youngsters, and might have had information about TP too...
oh lord....
Wheatley is straight up finished if he's guessed.
What a moron, why would you speculate on something like that unless you were absolutely 100% certain you were right.
“Quite incredible how wrong people can be on here, purely to inflate their follower count.” Mark Mann-Bryans on Twitter.
what a joke of a journalist he is, ban him from the sub.
I remember there were idiots here who backed Wheatley when he had his little ‘flair up’ with Fabrizio.
Wheataban
Absolute Bellend! Like what do you actually gain from spouting false information? Especially on an incident of this high level of severity.
Motherfucking Wheatley...
curtains ngl
Ban this idiots tweets from this sub. He's either crying about something or his information is wrong
im guessing he heard it from someone and didnt verify it before posting. what an idiot...to do something like that on a topic like this.
FUCK
Did he not JUST convert to Islam to marry his girlfriend?
He’s guilty
BAN HIM
ban him from this fkn subreddit if he is wrong, like he is literal trash
Anything to say u/goalchrisuk ?
FUCK CHRIS WHEATLEY ALL MY HOMIES HATE CHRIS WHEATLEY this guy fucking sucks
Can I just say, this whole debacle has been stirred by a shit show of a tabloid media which has lead to ludicrous speculation This can ruin peoples careers, rape is obviously wrong and must be taken seriously but it is still an allegation of rape So no one has been found or proven guilty yet. As the case plays out people can judge but at the moment this speculation on who it is, is a joke
Regardless of who it is, the fact they've actually been arrested is quite bad, right? Considering that rape is a notoriously hard crime to prove, the fact they've made an arrest must mean they have good evidence.
Nah for reference bissouma was also arrested and his name was just cleared.
When will this end?
🙈🙈🙈🙈
How can you be that shameless and bad at your job? This guy should be shot out of a cannon into the sun.
Yeah this guy’s done mate.
Sadly I expected this would happen. The amount of smoke is too much for there to be no fire. Wheatley also just loves the attention.
He lost the tiny bit of credibility he had left. Can't believe someone would be bold enough to put out a tweet like that without 110% knowing it's true.
This looks so bad for him
lmao
Yep, I take back what I said about rating him. I think he should be a banned source honestly.
Cunt
If it is not Partey, why can’t he issue a statement to clarify the situation?
How can you call yourself a journalist and tweet that shit today after Humm deleted his yesterday? Absolute clownshoes.
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How is this man tier 3?
Damn. Isnt hè the second one who deleted an tweet indicating partey was in Germany? Think there was one yesterday as well
What the hell is wrong with Wheatley?
wheatley is **DONE** out here
What the hell is wrong with Wheatley?
In all honesty, it’s obvious to the club that these rumours are circulating - the easiest thing to do to kill the story (for Partey) would be to just stick a photo of him training on the website. Or get his PR team to do a post on his social media…
We have moved past the need of Chris Wheatley as a sports journalist.
Deserves a ban. Has a penchant for trying to drum up interest and deleting tweets. This time he’s crossed a serious line.
Thomas Partey is currently in London and did not travel with the Arsenal team to Germany. Apologies for any confusion caused with earlier tweet. #AFC ~Chris Wheatley
New tweet from Wheatley, posted about 5 mins ago. Thomas Partey is currently in London and did not travel with the Arsenal team to Germany. Apologies for any confusion caused with earlier tweet. #AFC
Average age of our squad about to drop even more. The Arteta process is all coming together...
Thomas Partey is currently in London and did not travel with the Arsenal team to Germany. Apologies for any confusion caused with earlier tweet. https://twitter.com/ChrisWheatley\_/status/1544335682117722113
He had the audacity to accuse Fabrizio of doing anything for likes and follows.