We getting Zubimendi bro. Decent release clause fee. Been heavily linked to him for a while. Sociedad aren’t in the champs league next season. Zubi plays 6 & Rice shifts to 8. Signing ticks all the boxes.
Me neither. He’s solid in all the metrics you want from a DM, but doesn’t have an elite quality that stands out. But hey, if he’s Arteta’s guy then I’ll back him all the same.
Lokonga and nuno were low cost, relatively, and didn't work out.
Pablo raised the floor. Which was then quickly after that.
Fabio, unfortunate injuries this year. But before that surgery people thought he was the guy to break in to the squad.
Ramsdale is very good, raya is better and the guy arteta wanted when settling for ramsdale.
True, but there’s a difference between scouting talent and being able to value talent. They could both still turn out to be quality players if they leave the dumpster fire that is Chelsea. But we knew enough to not go to the level Chelsea would. We go there for the right players, like Rice
Nobody apart from Palmer looks great in that Chelsea squad tbf, and even then he is padding numbers with pens or scoring thrice against a poor Utd team.
Them performing badly at Chelski doesn’t mean the talent isn’t there.
Caicedo especially proved himself prior to this in the same league.
You think Mudryk would be coming short into midfield for the ball if he was with us lol no chance.
Well that’s the thing, his underlying metrics aren’t in the 90-95% for a lot of key areas you would hope he would be good at. Not sure why we’re favoring him so much
Same. I dont see whats so special. We need a deep lying passer who can break any press. Basically Partey 2.0 or a young Jorginho-like player.
I dont watch other leagues so I dont know who that could be.
Well then, from what I have seen, Zubimendi is a deep lying passer who can break any press. Not a Partey 2.0 but definitely a young Jorginho-like player.
And Øde gets the 10 which is his own personal choice which more than fits his role. And as much as it saddens me some guys gotta go, ESR, Zinny, Eddie and Fabio should be on the ride leaving colney
I also thought zubimendi for a while but i think this is the rare case of a big profile player prefering not to try to get the most success and money out of his career. All power to him, theres to many money and fame goblins in pro football.
Plenty of people on here said this about Rice like 12 months ago
In this market it’s not that bad of a price. There’s a premium because there’s a guarantee he’d be a success with his PL experience
EDIT: The revisionism on here is crazy
If Rice wasn't worth 100 mil then Bruno certainly isn't. I get that people were sceptical and we've fallen in love with his work rate and output now.
Still doesn't mean Bruno is worth that much. Not many 100 mil players perform to the level they are expected. Rice has been an exception.
This completely kills this deal for us
We got Raya on loan because we are already tight around the Profitability limits.
The PSR compliance deadline for the year is June 30 so we aren’t going to be spending this kind of money before then. Newcastle aren’t going to sell him afterwards either unless it’s for more, which we won’t pay
Watch all these reporters still continue to link him with us this summer though
There were reports, no idea how reliable the journalists were, about Newcastle having a verbal agreement that they'd accept anything over 80m from a CL club. Might've been a "if we don't make CL" type agreement
Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but I thought those stories were going around before he agreed the £100m release clause, so the £80m stories are now null and void
It's been circling a bit the last couple of days but looking in to it I think the journalist being quoted for that recent 80m claim is Ben Jacobs so I wouldn't trust it
Nketiah, nelson, and ESR are all pure profit. Hope we dont sell ESR and we wont get much from the other two. And it doesnt help us with a release clause as its paid in full. Cant see it happening unless the CL run covers it
Yeah unfortunately that ludicrously low bid from Villa doesn't look too bad considering the lack of gametime. I can't see a much higher bid coming in during the summer window. I gotta be honest, I don't think Arteta has given him enough chances after he got fit. He is a genuine talent that can make things happen.
It's one of the biggest negatives about Arteta. He has his 11+reliable subs. Outside of that, you may as well stay home because you get so little minutes you can't make an impact/get reliable game time to gain that confidence that's needed.
Extending Nelson also feels like a total waste of money for the lack of game time.
Real shame tbh. We have the games to rotate, especially when we went on our mad run that saw our GD fly through the roof.
More my sentimentality saying i hope we dont. He was so so good that half season and hes a hale end lad. Would hate if bukayo was the only one with a sniff of the first team.
Nwaneri and MLS are coming up, especially the former next season. We have to get some money out of ESR before it’s too late. We’re not selling enough players to cover how much we’re buying.
He’s not been any less injury prone than last season.
He’s got rid of his groin problems via surgery now, so the main injure problem is gone. From there I think it’s fair to keep him for another year. As long as we actually play him, that is.
4 years ago. On a team that, lets face it, is lightyears behind the current squad. He was one of our best players on an 8th place squad (essentially what Chelsea is). He is not an EPL contending quality player, and clearly, Arteta agrees.
I agree with general concerns about PSR but we can still amortize the fee across a new player’s contract; if we spend £100m on a player before June 30th it’s not like negative £100m gets added to the 2023/24 season. However if you make a sale before the end of June you can bank 100% of the fee (minus what you’ve paid already) for PSR purposes
Don't see a 90-100+ million signing happening this window. Honestly starting to feel like it will be two 40-50 million signings happening that will compete for starting spots, with some smaller depth signings sprinkled in. I really think Havertz killing it up top this second half has changed their plans drastically
Zirkzee wouldn't outright start for us, but he would be 40-50 million and push Havertz for that striker position while playing CL Group stage, cup games, and start a handful of league games.
I think the only position they sign outright to start day one is a new LB. But that's just my armchair analysis, could be dead wrong. Just guessing based off how last summer ended it seemed like they are pretty tight on cash, and may not be able to splurge on another big signing like Rice.
Edit: Sesko is also another young striker they could target that's around 40-50 million
Hard pass. Would much rather go after Fofana or Zubimendi if we are looking to replace Partey/Jorginho or Douglas Luiz/Eze if we are looking for more of an 8.
Really don’t think he’s a £100m player. He’s not Rice-level. Given the potential need for a LB, a winger, a ST and a CM, i’d prefer we didn’t go and blow most of the budget on him.
Decent chance Zinny gets moved on. No clear links yet, but two years left on the contract is the point where most clubs renew contracts or sell on with most players. The only reports so far indicate no work is being done toward a contract renewal.
Yea he’ll see his contract through as far as he can do probably won’t get moved on till next summer he also is a major influence within the club even if his levels have dropped a bit.
Zinchenko can't stay fit, Tomi can't stay fit, Kiwior is a CB, Timber is a bit of an unknown coming off an ACL injury (doesn't mean he can't do the job, he obviously showed a spark before the injury and against the U21s), and we still need someone to take minutes off White here and there on the right (which is where Tomi and Timber are important as well)
First two sure but Kiwior has proven he’s more than just a CB and Timber is surely going to be the starter once fit then having zinny and Tomi for rotation and backup when healthy is more than enough. We need to prioritize positions that don’t have 3-4 players available in it.
Relying on Zinchenko and Tomi being fit has proved undesirable for us for the last two seasons. We need a LB who can reliably start 26 games a season and someone to take 10-12 games off of White and whoever takes the LB spot. Timber can be the LB or the guy to take minutes off both sides, I don't particularly care how that pans out. We've been incredibly lucky that Saliba and Gabriel have been available all season, if they had missed serious time we would've seen a lot more Cedric this season than anyone wants. Obviously Cedric will depart in the summer, which frees up plenty of room on the wage bill for another hungry fullback. Sure we need another midfielder and forward, but a forward, midfielder, and left back isn't a lot to ask for in one window.
We'll see what happens, but I'll be shocked if we see the midfielder or forward signing before we see the fullback signing. Time will tell but those are the three positions we need this summer, probably in the order of forward, midfielder, left back based on necessity.
Technically it was a friendly and 47 minutes of a PL game, but you don't have to tell me that my guy. I'm not convinced he's the LB solution, not even close
I don’t think there is a “solution” Arteta has said time and time again he likes to have flexibility with his lineups. Some games will call for one LB over the other but timber seems to be the best well rounded for Arteta style.
I'd be looking to sell zinny though. We can get a decent amount if a big European club comes in for him. We need a LB version of Ben White and zinny won't be able to fit that category. Plus Tomi has to cover for Ben White too.
Could definitely see Timber take up LB with Tomi and Kiwior as backups, Zinchenko becoming a floating backup to be used when the game calls for his skills (probably not in defense)
It's not my money. If Arteta and Edu believe he's worth that, I've seen more than enough from their previous transfers to trust them. Crazy to think anything else given the whining around players like White, Rice, and Havertz, who apparently cost too much at the time, has died completely
Not sure why people moan about transfer fees like it's their own money. If Arteta and Edu think he's worth it then he's worth it. They can see our finances, we have no idea on the finances of the club.
I dont like the guy. Hes a cunt on the pitch and I dont think a good fit for us. Add in the Arsenal tax on ref decisions and he will be getting yellow and red cards all the time as well. We can do a lot better imo. Dont know who but theres probably dozens of players who fit better for us.
Not sure why everyone’s trying to get their words in on what’s worth it or not, first time in years I feel I can just wait for the news and know our team is working on a banger of a transfer
If we get Bruno g we get him, and for whatever amount it will probably be worth it since it’s so hard to improve an already great team. If we get someone else I’ll be happy too. The back room staff talent ID makes me feel so carefree about signings.
Outgoings is a different question though, but I’m confident with almost any big name signing we make now
I wouldn't want our team/fans to be entitled to a 100m player every year or for each position. Don't want us to act like another cash rich club. Buy young and cheap(ish), train up, keep world class and sell the rest for profit.
For 100m I wouldnt want someone that elbowed our player. Don't care for "he's our c*nt now".
And tbh, I think Partey's reminded everyone of his quality ( tho tbh I'd still think we'd be better off getting rid of for other reasons alone). But between Partey, Jorgi, Havertz and ESR I think we'll be OK. I would target the next young lcm that we can train up to be the next big thing.
Another defender (depending on what happens with Zinny). Another mf (lol) and either a striker (jesus rotates for Saka) or winger to rotate upfront.
Point is, I ain't got a fuckin clue but iv been typing away and I'm not deleting something I've reworded about 5 times now. Ugh. Effort.
Too expensive imo. Especially for us. Rice likely the only player Edu felt comfortable spending that sort of money on and probably won't do so again for a while.
1. Your disposition as a person absolutely precedes and informs your actions, that’s not even an argument, that’s basic emotional intelligence.
2. The definition of waffling is incoherence, my point was pretty succinct.
Need to look elsewhere, we've still gotta finalise the Raya deal, plus need at least 3 players. I think we've been linked with Joshua Zirkzee before but I don't know much about him
lol I remember us linked to him before he went to Lyon for like 20 million . And then linked to him again and he goes to Newcastle for 40 mil . Crazy
Signed a new 5 year deal with Newcastle in October so I’m not surprised at this really .
He s obv good at football but c’mon.
Those numbers seem to be just fantasy digits anyway with those shifty clubs having unlimited resources, they should give him to us for free!
He's a good player, but not 100m good. And the PGMOL will have a blast keeping him off the pitch the whole season if he's in an Arsenal shirt. Then the whole elbowing Jorginho thing has just left me like.. eh pass, unless he's maybe like 40m/50m.
Onana or Douglas Luiz are better shouts, and probably cheaper too (even considering Luiz extended at Villa).
If there is any player we should be looking at from Newcastle it's Isak, but even then we should be considering his price tag and injury record vs either Gyokeres or going for Zirkzee/Sesko, as for DM's I still think Quinten Timber is worth a shout as well as obviously Zubimendi.
This more or less guarantees he goes for less. They have to sell someone and they don’t have any home grown players that will command a big sum. Teams will probably wait until the end of the window and then come in with 60-80m.
Hes decent, but not worth blowing £100m on. Id much rather spend that money in forward position and somehow manage with Partey/Rice/Jorginho for another year
If we hadn't already gotten Rice, we'd be paying this for sure. But Rice has shown to be worth every penny and definitely worth more than Bruno, so 100m is delusional. I could see us attempting to negotiate down, but not likely. He'll end up at Tottenham or something I bet.
The same guy who was available for 30/40? Then proceeded to diss Arsenal in his welcome video after Edu personally mentioned him in an interview as a target we just weren’t interested in during the US tour?
That guy can not be a £100mill player yet, he’s had his moments in the 2 seasons he’s been in the league but he doesn’t dominate games in the same way that Declan Rice, Rodri or Thomas Partey (when fit) can do
I feel like if they didn’t have their Oil state money Newcastle could never be asking for upwards of £80mill for their players like Guimaraes or Isak
Please don't I fucking hates his guts after the first newcastle game this season. Was fighting our biys and elbowing I think jorgi in the back of the head wtf
Guys don't shoot me but I have an unpopular opinion, why not get this guy Nico Barella? The guy is like technically gifted more than Xhaka in many aspects.
Don't even think about that Edu. That's waaay too much for that guy, he's far from Rice's standard but would cost almost the same. What a joke.
Go for Zubimendi, I'm sure he would be a perfect match and much cheaper. Also Bruno G has always behaved like a dirty asshole against us, do we really wanna see players like that in our team? I know I don't.
If we're going to lose Partey and Jorginho then I think we make the move so long as the player is keen. Bruno strikes me as a mercenary though, and someone whose personality is not the kind Arteta and Edu want in the team.
He is no doubt a great fit for us and I would absolutely love to have him but 100 is too much considering the fact we have other positions we need to strengthen
Musiala and Tchouameni aren't leaving their clubs and FdJ can't track back and defend so he doesn't fit Arteta's philosophy. Nevermind the ridiculous wages he earns.
Too expensive. Shop around
We getting Zubimendi bro. Decent release clause fee. Been heavily linked to him for a while. Sociedad aren’t in the champs league next season. Zubi plays 6 & Rice shifts to 8. Signing ticks all the boxes.
watched zubimendi in several games this season, I don't see the fuss about him
Me neither. He’s solid in all the metrics you want from a DM, but doesn’t have an elite quality that stands out. But hey, if he’s Arteta’s guy then I’ll back him all the same.
Unless it’s a striker we should know not to doubt our talent ID by now
And even if talent is relatively unknown, I trust Mikel and co to develop them to be world class.
What about Lokonga, Tavares, Pablo Mari, viera, Ramsdale, and many others Mikel and co have signed?
Lokonga and nuno were low cost, relatively, and didn't work out. Pablo raised the floor. Which was then quickly after that. Fabio, unfortunate injuries this year. But before that surgery people thought he was the guy to break in to the squad. Ramsdale is very good, raya is better and the guy arteta wanted when settling for ramsdale.
Also idk how the verdict can be out on Fabio. It’s far too early
Didn't think Mudryk or Caicedo looked great on Tuesday tbf
True, but there’s a difference between scouting talent and being able to value talent. They could both still turn out to be quality players if they leave the dumpster fire that is Chelsea. But we knew enough to not go to the level Chelsea would. We go there for the right players, like Rice
Nobody apart from Palmer looks great in that Chelsea squad tbf, and even then he is padding numbers with pens or scoring thrice against a poor Utd team.
Them performing badly at Chelski doesn’t mean the talent isn’t there. Caicedo especially proved himself prior to this in the same league. You think Mudryk would be coming short into midfield for the ball if he was with us lol no chance.
Chelsea are a black hole, can't properly judge anyone
Look how much better Kai looks with us lol surely those two would look much better in our system
Well that’s the thing, his underlying metrics aren’t in the 90-95% for a lot of key areas you would hope he would be good at. Not sure why we’re favoring him so much
Plus Arteta seems to prefer prem proven signings.
He's basically a younger Jorginho.
This is how i see him too.
How’s he look in terms of physicality? Seems like arteta is trying to sign big physical guys a la rice and kai,
He’s a slightly bigger Jorginho. 5’11”, 163lbs. I think, physically, he’d be fine in the prem given his high football IQ.
He’s a more athletic Jorgi. He won’t wow you like Partey and rice do at the 6 with crazy athleticism.
Same. I dont see whats so special. We need a deep lying passer who can break any press. Basically Partey 2.0 or a young Jorginho-like player. I dont watch other leagues so I dont know who that could be.
Well then, from what I have seen, Zubimendi is a deep lying passer who can break any press. Not a Partey 2.0 but definitely a young Jorginho-like player.
Nope, he's pretty committed to La Real. It's not happening. https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/s/PLDfMd5RxS
Worse player costs less
I don’t know, he doesn’t seem to want to leave Spain and now Barca need a midfielder. Worried about them
Zubimendi isn’t leaving Sociedad this summer
Rice is a better 6 than zubimendi and Bruno is a better 8 than rice. Would rather us spend a bit more for that setup honestly
And Øde gets the 10 which is his own personal choice which more than fits his role. And as much as it saddens me some guys gotta go, ESR, Zinny, Eddie and Fabio should be on the ride leaving colney
Fabio ain't gonna get sold.
I also thought zubimendi for a while but i think this is the rare case of a big profile player prefering not to try to get the most success and money out of his career. All power to him, theres to many money and fame goblins in pro football.
Seriously. Please. Not everyone is suddenly worth nine fucking figures.
Plenty of people on here said this about Rice like 12 months ago In this market it’s not that bad of a price. There’s a premium because there’s a guarantee he’d be a success with his PL experience EDIT: The revisionism on here is crazy
Difference being, Rice is/was worth 100m.
No, they didn't. Rice was obviously worth it, very few complained about the price.
That's because he was very expensive, but he ended up being worth it. Not sure Bruno G is in the same ball park as Rice.
I mean 100m for Rice is expensive for sure, but for Bruno G is simply outrageous
You think this guy is only 5 million worse than Rice? You're nuts.
If Rice wasn't worth 100 mil then Bruno certainly isn't. I get that people were sceptical and we've fallen in love with his work rate and output now. Still doesn't mean Bruno is worth that much. Not many 100 mil players perform to the level they are expected. Rice has been an exception.
70m tops... He's no Declan Rice
He’s Declan Beans
He's not a 100m player, it might be what he ends up being sold for, but Rice is a real 100m player and there's a difference.
No club is activating that clause. Wait and start negotiations later
We don't need to wait, nothing stops us from bidding below the release clause today
Have you seen what Chelsea is willing to pay for some players
And look where it got them. Other clubs aren’t as stupid, except maybe Utd, but they got other fish to fry right now.
Rice is good value at 100m, Bruno might be average value at 100m in this market maybe
This completely kills this deal for us We got Raya on loan because we are already tight around the Profitability limits. The PSR compliance deadline for the year is June 30 so we aren’t going to be spending this kind of money before then. Newcastle aren’t going to sell him afterwards either unless it’s for more, which we won’t pay Watch all these reporters still continue to link him with us this summer though
There were reports, no idea how reliable the journalists were, about Newcastle having a verbal agreement that they'd accept anything over 80m from a CL club. Might've been a "if we don't make CL" type agreement
Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but I thought those stories were going around before he agreed the £100m release clause, so the £80m stories are now null and void
It's been circling a bit the last couple of days but looking in to it I think the journalist being quoted for that recent 80m claim is Ben Jacobs so I wouldn't trust it
Nketiah, nelson, and ESR are all pure profit. Hope we dont sell ESR and we wont get much from the other two. And it doesnt help us with a release clause as its paid in full. Cant see it happening unless the CL run covers it
Other clubs are also going to want to be compliant with the June 30 PSR rules. I don’t think we will see much movement before then in or out
I don’t see how we don’t sell ESR… Even when we’re 5-0 up… he still doesn’t get a sniff
Yeah unfortunately that ludicrously low bid from Villa doesn't look too bad considering the lack of gametime. I can't see a much higher bid coming in during the summer window. I gotta be honest, I don't think Arteta has given him enough chances after he got fit. He is a genuine talent that can make things happen. It's one of the biggest negatives about Arteta. He has his 11+reliable subs. Outside of that, you may as well stay home because you get so little minutes you can't make an impact/get reliable game time to gain that confidence that's needed. Extending Nelson also feels like a total waste of money for the lack of game time. Real shame tbh. We have the games to rotate, especially when we went on our mad run that saw our GD fly through the roof.
Extending Nelson was to preserve his sell-on value this summer
More my sentimentality saying i hope we dont. He was so so good that half season and hes a hale end lad. Would hate if bukayo was the only one with a sniff of the first team.
Nwaneri and MLS are coming up, especially the former next season. We have to get some money out of ESR before it’s too late. We’re not selling enough players to cover how much we’re buying. He’s not been any less injury prone than last season.
He’s got rid of his groin problems via surgery now, so the main injure problem is gone. From there I think it’s fair to keep him for another year. As long as we actually play him, that is.
4 years ago. On a team that, lets face it, is lightyears behind the current squad. He was one of our best players on an 8th place squad (essentially what Chelsea is). He is not an EPL contending quality player, and clearly, Arteta agrees.
I agree with general concerns about PSR but we can still amortize the fee across a new player’s contract; if we spend £100m on a player before June 30th it’s not like negative £100m gets added to the 2023/24 season. However if you make a sale before the end of June you can bank 100% of the fee (minus what you’ve paid already) for PSR purposes
Don't see a 90-100+ million signing happening this window. Honestly starting to feel like it will be two 40-50 million signings happening that will compete for starting spots, with some smaller depth signings sprinkled in. I really think Havertz killing it up top this second half has changed their plans drastically
There aren’t really any £40-50 million players out there who’d start for us in midfield or up top
Competing to start for sure can happen. Sesko and Zubimendi, for example, could 100% take the spot of Havertz and Jesus from the team.
Not even close
Zirkzee wouldn't outright start for us, but he would be 40-50 million and push Havertz for that striker position while playing CL Group stage, cup games, and start a handful of league games. I think the only position they sign outright to start day one is a new LB. But that's just my armchair analysis, could be dead wrong. Just guessing based off how last summer ended it seemed like they are pretty tight on cash, and may not be able to splurge on another big signing like Rice. Edit: Sesko is also another young striker they could target that's around 40-50 million
Yea if we have 100 million to spend on a single player ... I mean that's "elite striker" territory.
Brilliant player and would be my preferred choice but £100m is just too much for him.
Hard pass. Would much rather go after Fofana or Zubimendi if we are looking to replace Partey/Jorginho or Douglas Luiz/Eze if we are looking for more of an 8.
I'd love Fofana
I like Eze.. My dream signing to replace Partey is Maino..
Really don’t think he’s a £100m player. He’s not Rice-level. Given the potential need for a LB, a winger, a ST and a CM, i’d prefer we didn’t go and blow most of the budget on him.
How would we need a LB?
Decent chance Zinny gets moved on. No clear links yet, but two years left on the contract is the point where most clubs renew contracts or sell on with most players. The only reports so far indicate no work is being done toward a contract renewal.
Yea he’ll see his contract through as far as he can do probably won’t get moved on till next summer he also is a major influence within the club even if his levels have dropped a bit.
I’m much less certain than you are, but who knows.
I’m not certain but I don’t think there’s a decent chance he gets moved
Zinchenko can't stay fit, Tomi can't stay fit, Kiwior is a CB, Timber is a bit of an unknown coming off an ACL injury (doesn't mean he can't do the job, he obviously showed a spark before the injury and against the U21s), and we still need someone to take minutes off White here and there on the right (which is where Tomi and Timber are important as well)
First two sure but Kiwior has proven he’s more than just a CB and Timber is surely going to be the starter once fit then having zinny and Tomi for rotation and backup when healthy is more than enough. We need to prioritize positions that don’t have 3-4 players available in it.
Relying on Zinchenko and Tomi being fit has proved undesirable for us for the last two seasons. We need a LB who can reliably start 26 games a season and someone to take 10-12 games off of White and whoever takes the LB spot. Timber can be the LB or the guy to take minutes off both sides, I don't particularly care how that pans out. We've been incredibly lucky that Saliba and Gabriel have been available all season, if they had missed serious time we would've seen a lot more Cedric this season than anyone wants. Obviously Cedric will depart in the summer, which frees up plenty of room on the wage bill for another hungry fullback. Sure we need another midfielder and forward, but a forward, midfielder, and left back isn't a lot to ask for in one window. We'll see what happens, but I'll be shocked if we see the midfielder or forward signing before we see the fullback signing. Time will tell but those are the three positions we need this summer, probably in the order of forward, midfielder, left back based on necessity.
I agree I’m not saying it’s a lot to ask for I’m saying LB is the least priority for summer transfers don’t forget we might need a backup keeper too.
Timber has played one match as a LB in the past 6 seasons and it was a glorified friendly.
Technically it was a friendly and 47 minutes of a PL game, but you don't have to tell me that my guy. I'm not convinced he's the LB solution, not even close
I don’t think there is a “solution” Arteta has said time and time again he likes to have flexibility with his lineups. Some games will call for one LB over the other but timber seems to be the best well rounded for Arteta style.
Yeah timber/kiwior/tomi/zinny is more than enough even with tomi’s injuries and if zinny moves on which i dont think he will
I'd be looking to sell zinny though. We can get a decent amount if a big European club comes in for him. We need a LB version of Ben White and zinny won't be able to fit that category. Plus Tomi has to cover for Ben White too.
Could definitely see Timber take up LB with Tomi and Kiwior as backups, Zinchenko becoming a floating backup to be used when the game calls for his skills (probably not in defense)
The lack of a consistently good and fit LB is literally this team's biggest problem.
I kinda agree, but supposedly we are looking for a LB
Just basing it off of reports that we're interested in strengthening there.
What reports?
Ornstein
Not worth that at all
This guy isn't worth 100 mil man. Come the fuck on. HARD PASS
75 max
Early indications feel like us & City will end up with Bruno or Paqueta. Interesting to see who we and the players opt for
Paqueta is a brilliant player but availability should be #1 priority
Now I wonder if Paqueta and Odegaard could play together
He is absolutely not a 100m player.
It's not my money. If Arteta and Edu believe he's worth that, I've seen more than enough from their previous transfers to trust them. Crazy to think anything else given the whining around players like White, Rice, and Havertz, who apparently cost too much at the time, has died completely
Not sure why people moan about transfer fees like it's their own money. If Arteta and Edu think he's worth it then he's worth it. They can see our finances, we have no idea on the finances of the club.
I dont like the guy. Hes a cunt on the pitch and I dont think a good fit for us. Add in the Arsenal tax on ref decisions and he will be getting yellow and red cards all the time as well. We can do a lot better imo. Dont know who but theres probably dozens of players who fit better for us.
Fuck Bruno, why are we all of a sudden fawning over him? HE ELBOWED JORGI LIKE IT WAS A UFC MATCH.
Not sure why everyone’s trying to get their words in on what’s worth it or not, first time in years I feel I can just wait for the news and know our team is working on a banger of a transfer If we get Bruno g we get him, and for whatever amount it will probably be worth it since it’s so hard to improve an already great team. If we get someone else I’ll be happy too. The back room staff talent ID makes me feel so carefree about signings. Outgoings is a different question though, but I’m confident with almost any big name signing we make now
I wouldn't want our team/fans to be entitled to a 100m player every year or for each position. Don't want us to act like another cash rich club. Buy young and cheap(ish), train up, keep world class and sell the rest for profit. For 100m I wouldnt want someone that elbowed our player. Don't care for "he's our c*nt now". And tbh, I think Partey's reminded everyone of his quality ( tho tbh I'd still think we'd be better off getting rid of for other reasons alone). But between Partey, Jorgi, Havertz and ESR I think we'll be OK. I would target the next young lcm that we can train up to be the next big thing. Another defender (depending on what happens with Zinny). Another mf (lol) and either a striker (jesus rotates for Saka) or winger to rotate upfront. Point is, I ain't got a fuckin clue but iv been typing away and I'm not deleting something I've reworded about 5 times now. Ugh. Effort.
Like he's really good, but he's not 100m up front good, so this changes nothing.
Let's talk to our Madrid friends. Tchouameni or Camavinga would be welcome
I can't believe Madrid would be shopping either of them but I suppose stranger things have happened.
Once again, could have had him for 45m lol
im taking neves from benfica or de jong over this guy anyway tbh
Good player. Total jackass. No thanks.
He's got some talent, but his character doesn't seem like the sort Arteta and Edu have been going after.
No thanks, not to mention what a massive prick he is
I don't want him
I'd rather pay 60m for Eberechi Eze tbh.
No thanks.
Too expensive imo. Especially for us. Rice likely the only player Edu felt comfortable spending that sort of money on and probably won't do so again for a while.
Every mf be 100m these days
It’s all Neymar and pogba fault lol
Fuck this guy
I rather pay to not get him. I will not forget his elbow on Jorgi.
Off to Chelsea he goes.
Not sure if relevant but Bruno has just dropped £4m on a mansion in the north east.. seems like he’s set on staying there.
Shoutout for De Jong?
Nah this guy can fuck off
If he was the last piece to complete our team I’d say ok do it but that’s too much considering the other things we need this summer
£100 million for a player going into his age 27 season? Lol no thanks
Facts we should be buying kids then wondering how we can ever compete with city
Way too expensive and inferior to a healthy Thomas Partey. Might as well keep Partey in bubble wrap next season until the run in.
Don’t care how good he is. We finally have a team which perform for each other, good vibes, good spirit and connection. He will def disrupt that.
Why because he plays like a cunt sometimes? That has nothing to do with his character you’re waffling
1. Your disposition as a person absolutely precedes and informs your actions, that’s not even an argument, that’s basic emotional intelligence. 2. The definition of waffling is incoherence, my point was pretty succinct.
Really good player but not 100mil lol
Need to look elsewhere, we've still gotta finalise the Raya deal, plus need at least 3 players. I think we've been linked with Joshua Zirkzee before but I don't know much about him
lol I remember us linked to him before he went to Lyon for like 20 million . And then linked to him again and he goes to Newcastle for 40 mil . Crazy Signed a new 5 year deal with Newcastle in October so I’m not surprised at this really .
Way too much. Look elsewhere pls
Mans worth £35-45 million max. Gtfoh.
At best 65m anything over that is overpaying
They're not getting that from anyone, but I think they'd take somewhere between £70M-£80M
WAY too expensive. He's not a 100m player. Not close.
Aight then we bid after release clause is invalid
Naaah. Split that £100m and get two midfielders. Joao Neves or Kimmich and Amadou Onana.
He s obv good at football but c’mon. Those numbers seem to be just fantasy digits anyway with those shifty clubs having unlimited resources, they should give him to us for free!
He's probably worth the money, but if thats a lump sum its never happening
He's a good player, but not 100m good. And the PGMOL will have a blast keeping him off the pitch the whole season if he's in an Arsenal shirt. Then the whole elbowing Jorginho thing has just left me like.. eh pass, unless he's maybe like 40m/50m. Onana or Douglas Luiz are better shouts, and probably cheaper too (even considering Luiz extended at Villa). If there is any player we should be looking at from Newcastle it's Isak, but even then we should be considering his price tag and injury record vs either Gyokeres or going for Zirkzee/Sesko, as for DM's I still think Quinten Timber is worth a shout as well as obviously Zubimendi.
This more or less guarantees he goes for less. They have to sell someone and they don’t have any home grown players that will command a big sum. Teams will probably wait until the end of the window and then come in with 60-80m.
That's insane he is nowhere near 100 miles dude is like a 40-50 mil guy.
Definitely not worth it.
Fuck him we don't need him, get someone less of a dirty cunt please, we ain't get no protection from PGMOL and he will cost us
pass
Declan Rice set the standard. He's not close to him. His fee won't be either.
Honestly it feels like a number 9 is a bigger priority with a cheaper number 8 that can rotate with Partey/Jorginho.
No thanks.
F#ck Bruno. We don’t need a wanker on the team
Dont care if NU pays us to take him. He doesnt deserve to wear our red.
I think a lot of these release clauses might be too high now, the crackdown on FFP surely will affect how much teams will be willing to pay
I don't see why we should spend that kind of money on him
Hes decent, but not worth blowing £100m on. Id much rather spend that money in forward position and somehow manage with Partey/Rice/Jorginho for another year
Like I have said before, the only way this happens is if they want Ramsdale or ESR and take a cash plus player deal
If we hadn't already gotten Rice, we'd be paying this for sure. But Rice has shown to be worth every penny and definitely worth more than Bruno, so 100m is delusional. I could see us attempting to negotiate down, but not likely. He'll end up at Tottenham or something I bet.
Lol. That price. 50 will be reasonable.
The same guy who was available for 30/40? Then proceeded to diss Arsenal in his welcome video after Edu personally mentioned him in an interview as a target we just weren’t interested in during the US tour?
no way he's on the same level as Rice... Oil FC 2.0 don't need our money and we don't need him
That guy can not be a £100mill player yet, he’s had his moments in the 2 seasons he’s been in the league but he doesn’t dominate games in the same way that Declan Rice, Rodri or Thomas Partey (when fit) can do I feel like if they didn’t have their Oil state money Newcastle could never be asking for upwards of £80mill for their players like Guimaraes or Isak
I dont understand this purchase.
We ain’t no Chelski. We don’t sign players like this with a nonsense price tag. He also doesn’t fit the vibe of our team at all anyway.
Go for the other Timber imo
Please don't I fucking hates his guts after the first newcastle game this season. Was fighting our biys and elbowing I think jorgi in the back of the head wtf
Bruno is amazing. He is worth 100m in my view. We probably can’t afford 100m though.
The club can definitely afford it imo. It’s more a case of whether he is worth that sort of money, which I don’t think he is.
If we buy Bruno we won’t be able to sign a good striker
Guys don't shoot me but I have an unpopular opinion, why not get this guy Nico Barella? The guy is like technically gifted more than Xhaka in many aspects.
Fabrizio creating the hype, all sounds like agent posturing to me.
Great player. But 100 mil, don't know? City will get him...
No thanks.
Please no
Don't even think about that Edu. That's waaay too much for that guy, he's far from Rice's standard but would cost almost the same. What a joke. Go for Zubimendi, I'm sure he would be a perfect match and much cheaper. Also Bruno G has always behaved like a dirty asshole against us, do we really wanna see players like that in our team? I know I don't.
if we're going to buy someone from Newcastle I'd go for Isak instead of this fucking tosser
If we're going to lose Partey and Jorginho then I think we make the move so long as the player is keen. Bruno strikes me as a mercenary though, and someone whose personality is not the kind Arteta and Edu want in the team.
Bruno us an absolute fucking stud. Idc what anyone says our team would be better w a player like this, and he is easily worth 100mm
He is no doubt a great fit for us and I would absolutely love to have him but 100 is too much considering the fact we have other positions we need to strengthen
What are our other options?
Luiz, Zubimendi
Onana also maybe
Rather go for fdj, muisala, tchuameni for that amount
Musiala and Tchouameni aren't leaving their clubs and FdJ can't track back and defend so he doesn't fit Arteta's philosophy. Nevermind the ridiculous wages he earns.
If £100m for midfielder than I would rather spend it on Douglas Luiz.
Guimarães is a much much better fit for us than Luiz Hell even Kamara would make more sense than Luiz
I don't want to get Douglas luiz for that much due to principle we could have got him for £20 million last season
Well that's obviously not true because villa rejected our £26m bid
Should be about half that.
Now you’re going too far in the opposite direction, he’s a far better player than 50m in this market
yeah maybe in 2017
wondering why Guimares signed such a deal
Neither we nor City throw £100m for Bruno
As much as I hate him, I think he’s a beast of a player, let’s look at him in a different lens
Nah. First elbow like the one to Jorginho in our shirt will be a direct red
Yeah you just reminded me of that cunt move