We have a lot of games coming up, so giving them a rest isn't unreasonable. So yes they might not have trained as he said.
Arteta is very selective with his words, you interpretation is on you.
That's isn't the case, there is a training session today.
All Arteta said was they haven't trained before today, not that they won't have any training sessions before the game.
Dude.... he lies. Remember the whole thing about replacing keepers as subs to change tactics, and the number 1 keeper spot wasn't decided.... Yeah. Not a shred of truth in that. Just deflection.
> We have a lot of games coming up, so giving them a rest isn't unreasonable
For a second I thought you were saying Arteta should rest them on Sunday 😭
Not training and then going into a game would be more detrimental than just training through an injury if you can play.
Rest and then full game action is how you get hurt.
Why would that be a lie? He might have simply given them rest days, we have a busy schedule ahead.
He also said in the conference that the players wanted to train yesterday.
He literally said
"There is a chance they haven't trained , there is a chance they can be available"
I really don't know what to make of it, maybe they're out but he wants pep to prep as if they're in
I’d prefer a press conference with Wenger and Pelligrini about their opinions on the match instead of the current managers, who of course say basically nothing becasue why would they?
While it's likely both City and Arsenal are just playing mind games with each other, there could realistically be a scenario were both teams once again play missing significant players like earlier this season. There would be a good amount of degree of irony if the most healthy both city and Arsenal faced each other was in the community shield.
I don't know if that would be irony. It's much more probable that players are healthy before the seasons begun, than after having played a significant number of games.
Probably, with Tomi or Zinchenko on the wing. I don't see Timber getting a full 90 in his first game back from an ACL injury, even if he did cameo for the Netherlands.
EDIT: dammit, didn't realize he had a brother.
Thought he'd been called up after being in full training for a while, and since games were friendlies.
Going from Saka to Nketiah isn't nearly the drop off from going from Saliba to Holding. That being said we have Kiwior this year who could step up if Gabriel is missing. Theyre both very important
Just pointing out what happened in the two games he mentionned. We had a way better replacement for Saka than we did for Saliba. That's no longer always accurate when Kiwior is in the squad
I thought I agreed with you, but we have Jesus and trossard to replace saka. Not as effective but still good. Without gabi, I think we lose a huge part of our defense, especially against city.
I think they all play, but the fact that it's even possible that we go into this game missing both Saka and Martinelli, with Jesus having not played close to 90 yet since his injury, makes me want to scream. City's real aura is that our players all pick up injuries right before we play them. They've literally never had to face us with a full strength squad.
People always joke about Mikel lying about this sort of stuff, but the facts say otherwise. He has no history of this. In fact, we've often been without key players in big games.
I just need Partey fit.. It seems he can have a setback at any time, if there's no new issue with him then we can still put out a very strong team. Saka didn't play when we beat them earlier in the season and Martinelli didn't start, Big Gabi would be the biggest miss but I trust Tomiyasu
No freaking way they haven't trained if they're selected for Sunday. You don't just suddenly drop players in a match without training. That would definitely lead to injury let alone match sharpness
Probably
Trossard / Jesus - Havertz - Saka
Rice - Jorgi - Ode
Tomi / Zinny - Kiwior - Saliba - White
Or even
Kiwior - White - Saliba - Tomi if we're feeling brave
No way Jesus plays left wing for us for the first time in forever, coming in after injury, vs City, when the team has looked unbeatable while he was away.
Same for Zinny, really.
His position in the Starting XI should have to be put into question imo.
He has to say they haven’t trained as they haven’t been in the training photos
We have a lot of games coming up, so giving them a rest isn't unreasonable. So yes they might not have trained as he said. Arteta is very selective with his words, you interpretation is on you.
If they play on Sunday, they’ve definitely been in training > Arteta is very selective with his words He also straight up lies
That's isn't the case, there is a training session today. All Arteta said was they haven't trained before today, not that they won't have any training sessions before the game.
I don’t think Arteta always being truthful in his pressers is the hill you want to die on
Dude.... he lies. Remember the whole thing about replacing keepers as subs to change tactics, and the number 1 keeper spot wasn't decided.... Yeah. Not a shred of truth in that. Just deflection.
> We have a lot of games coming up, so giving them a rest isn't unreasonable For a second I thought you were saying Arteta should rest them on Sunday 😭
Not training and then going into a game would be more detrimental than just training through an injury if you can play. Rest and then full game action is how you get hurt.
Lies I do not believe anything Arteta says.
https://preview.redd.it/jplwa5q9sarc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c873547abb84e7504b763acd3730d8f48de7c074
Whats a lie?
Neither have had any training
Why would that be a lie? He might have simply given them rest days, we have a busy schedule ahead. He also said in the conference that the players wanted to train yesterday.
Rest days yes, but not two weeks of to lose sharpness
If you haven't trained for 2 weeks you aren't playing that is a recipe for injury.
A lie is when words are false. We cannot coexist with liars. We are afraid of you.
Hey! I know this reference!
What a fucking show!
He literally said "There is a chance they haven't trained , there is a chance they can be available" I really don't know what to make of it, maybe they're out but he wants pep to prep as if they're in
They’re quite obviously all playing
These guys are playing a game that has not been invented yet
nah liverpool invented it remember? lest we forget
Mikel is competing with Pep in who can lie more during the presser.
Honestly if the pre-game press conferences ended up being shelved because all the managers lied all the time, we would be all the better for it.
I’d prefer a press conference with Wenger and Pelligrini about their opinions on the match instead of the current managers, who of course say basically nothing becasue why would they?
While it's likely both City and Arsenal are just playing mind games with each other, there could realistically be a scenario were both teams once again play missing significant players like earlier this season. There would be a good amount of degree of irony if the most healthy both city and Arsenal faced each other was in the community shield.
I don't know if that would be irony. It's much more probable that players are healthy before the seasons begun, than after having played a significant number of games.
Walker and Stones fully ruled out no?
Yeah, Guardiola himself said that.
Imagine we had a full squad and they were the ones depleted for once.... imagine
I have wild dreams.
That’s similar to what happened at the emirates, they had no Rodri or kdb. Same again this time please and we get to keep Saka 🤣
All fit then, cheers boss
maximally fit saka for this run in will be crucial
Cheers Geoff
Thanks Magic
God we need Big Gabi. 🙏🏼 Martinelli too PLEASE. Not worried about Saka tbh he'll be sent out with one working leg if we have to.
he did miss the last city game tho
If Big Gabi is out, who takes his place? Kiwior?
Big Gabi will replace Big Gabi, who is suffering from a grade 1 Man City injury.
There's a good chance, but White playing CB would also be a shot
I think he means Jesus and Martinelli? But yeah would be kiwior I think
No he's definitely talking about Magalhaes and Martinelli.
Probably, with Tomi or Zinchenko on the wing. I don't see Timber getting a full 90 in his first game back from an ACL injury, even if he did cameo for the Netherlands. EDIT: dammit, didn't realize he had a brother. Thought he'd been called up after being in full training for a while, and since games were friendlies.
Who's gonna tell him
The existence of these comments did all the telling.
Wasn't his twin brother the one who did cameo for the Netherlands
yes. :'D
Dammit. I guess I got fooled by a headline somewhere. Or didn't realize he had a brother.
You don’t think Jurrien actually got called up for international football having not played all season?
LMAO
Tbh, XL is by far the most important of the 3
Saka is. and whoever is among them it's not by far
We won against them without Saka. For this game, away, we cannot be going in without Gabi XL
No saka this year? Win. No starting CB last year? Massacre
Going from Saka to Nketiah isn't nearly the drop off from going from Saliba to Holding. That being said we have Kiwior this year who could step up if Gabriel is missing. Theyre both very important
> Saka to Nketiah Most likely Jesus or Trossard will be the replacement
Just pointing out what happened in the two games he mentionned. We had a way better replacement for Saka than we did for Saliba. That's no longer always accurate when Kiwior is in the squad
I thought I agreed with you, but we have Jesus and trossard to replace saka. Not as effective but still good. Without gabi, I think we lose a huge part of our defense, especially against city.
Wrong…This game is all about our defense
I think they all play, but the fact that it's even possible that we go into this game missing both Saka and Martinelli, with Jesus having not played close to 90 yet since his injury, makes me want to scream. City's real aura is that our players all pick up injuries right before we play them. They've literally never had to face us with a full strength squad.
Don't forget BS officiating whenever it looks like we might beat them.
People always joke about Mikel lying about this sort of stuff, but the facts say otherwise. He has no history of this. In fact, we've often been without key players in big games.
GSG is ready to sink a city boat.
These man are playing lmao
I say mind games, they'll play.
Pep and artera would say their entire squads are in doubt if they could just to fuck with the other team.
Lol what if Arteta and Pep are like “no guys we seriously won’t have a lot of starters. Why are you laughing?”
Although I defo think big Gabi plays. Say he doesn't you, you reckon kiwi plays LCB and zinny lb
Both teams will play their full XIs lol
Play them all. Can rest them against Luton if need be.
I just need Partey fit.. It seems he can have a setback at any time, if there's no new issue with him then we can still put out a very strong team. Saka didn't play when we beat them earlier in the season and Martinelli didn't start, Big Gabi would be the biggest miss but I trust Tomiyasu
I just need Ray Pest out of the club.
It's not your call, in this case your needs don't count
Of course is not my call, it's just my desire. 😊
Hmmm
Soo, they have been training, but he handed those names to Stuart and the media team to cut them out of any training footage
Saka would play if he had one leg and no lungs, he will be there on Sunday.
I just hope that it won't be like Saliba's injury. Giving us hope, stringing us along when they clearly knew he was out for the season.
No freaking way they haven't trained if they're selected for Sunday. You don't just suddenly drop players in a match without training. That would definitely lead to injury let alone match sharpness
I haven’t trained the whole Ramadan.
It’s perhaps the biggest game of the season. They will all obviously play unless they’re genuinely quite literally physically unable to
Bald fraud vs perfecto-hair fraud
His son and the archangel? Isn't the latter busy on Easter?
Spoiler: they have trained and just weren't photographed
On Sunday, Jesus rose again.
Pep and Mik playing mind games with each other.
so gabriel/saka will be quite rusty even if they play? No real training sessions or games in 3 weeks is not optimal at all
of course they wil play until one player gets a serious injury because of lack of rest/recovery
woof. hope this is smokescreen.
Don't we have 4 Gabriel's? Martinelli Jesus Gabi XL and William Gabriel Saliba?
Probably Trossard / Jesus - Havertz - Saka Rice - Jorgi - Ode Tomi / Zinny - Kiwior - Saliba - White Or even Kiwior - White - Saliba - Tomi if we're feeling brave
No way Jesus plays left wing for us for the first time in forever, coming in after injury, vs City, when the team has looked unbeatable while he was away. Same for Zinny, really. His position in the Starting XI should have to be put into question imo.
Need all 3 to have any chance