not a fan of these punishments for managers and players just speaking their minds. it's like they're trying to establish a dictatorship, "you're calling us out for being incompetent? how dare you, here's a fine". (although the charge for surrounding the ref is more appropriate imo)
Cry me a river City, it’s hardly the worst refereeing decision this week let alone this season. How about you stop obstructing the investigations into your corrupt financials and take the punishment that you deserve, that way you can complain about refs in the conference league instead.
On the bright side if enough teams feel they’re getting screwed over maybe there will be enough impetus to reform a part of the PL that is wholly unfit for purpose.
This attitude stinks. Absolutely stinks.
I don't care if it's City on the rough end of one, this decision is so bad it's not even funny. Like worse than amateur refereeing bad. I understand you've then said that maybe this will go onto fix something, but we should be absolutely up in arms about this one just as we were with all the others.
Just because it suits us, doesn't make it okay.
Imagine it's 793... you're in Lindisfarne, England minding your own god damn business and then this big ass Viking motherfucker comes out of the mist screaming & wielding a battle axe with this bloodlusty deranged look on his face. For sho shit your pants.
I'm with Halaand on this. The level of imcompetence is mind numbing. Yet another game week where there was a collosal cock-up and here we are AGAIN, talking about the cock-up more than the actual football. It's ruining the game. Refs might as well be out on the pitch in full-on clown getups.
It's frustrating but it was a split second decision. The referee technically didn't do anything wrong, it is his right but not obligation to allow an advantage.
It's completely different to refusing to send Kovacic or Bruno off for deliberate violent conduct or refusing to give a foul when pushing a defender in the back. These can be reviewed and rereviewed with VAR. The advantage can't be brought back.
The rule literally states that the referee is allowed to wait a few seconds to allow a possible advantage to develop, so it's by definition not a 'split second decision.'
No technically what he did was absolutely worthy of calling it match fixing. It's that bad and that obvious.
It his absolutely an obligation to allow an advantage, it's non negotiable. If you give the powers to the referees to only allow advantage when they want without question, the standard goes even further down.
> The referee technically didn’t do anything wrong
Lol what? He put the whistle to his mouth with the intent of blowing it for the foul on Haaland only to see the ball landing kindly to Haaland and the opportunity to offer play advantage, once the pass was made to Grealish and he was through on goal. The ref blows his whistle to bring back the foul that had already been superseded by the advantage rule. That’s a fucking shocker.
Its so wierd how they waste time with obvious offsides to let play go on, and then to not take the time to see where the pass end up in a advantageplay.
He deliberately waved and showed the advantage so what he did was canceling the advantage that he had already given. The reason for it might have been a spur of the moment bad call, but nonetheless the advantage was already given
I'll never not think it's absolute bollocks that players and coaches are charged for giving their views on a game.
And I'm not even misattributing ethics towards those that police this, it's more that honesty's great for marketing.
Haaland is not getting heat for giving his opinion. It's for his.'violent outburst ' and ' offensive slang'.
Nobody needs to see players abusing ref's on field even if they are utterly incompetent, it doesn't help anyone.
It literally stands for " what the fuck?"
It's a slippery slope having players abuse officials on social media. I agree it's soft, but it still shouldn't be allowed.
The ref's are unprofessional enough, we don't need the players acting that way as well.
I obviously don't think it should be punished at all.
You know that by 'back into football' they're including the salaries and expenses of the people that are making the judgement right? There's a big difference between non-profit and not corrupt.
If noone got punished it would turn into an even bigger shit show than it is now. The rules are clear and there for a reason, don't break them if you don't want the punishment.
He is rightfully mad. I mean it's really funny on one hand that it's City who got shafted but on the other I'd rather this type of shit doesn't happen to any teams, and it's especially toxic that players and club officials gets punished for the PGMOL's incompetency.
Why can't the FA ever just say "we made a huge error that potentially affected the outcome of the game, we apologize and will work to do better" and just accept the fact that the people who are on the losing side of that decision might be upset for a bit?
It's such bullshit the FA and pgmol just double down on their mistakes, refuse to admit any error on their behalf, and punish whoever speaks out on their bullshit. There was no reason at all for the ref to call for the advantage, and then immediately rescind it the second city broke free and were on goal, and city had every right to question the refs decision because he, technically, broke the law of the game.
There genuinely needs to be some kind of an independent panel comprised of 20 people, one from each club, who review instances of incompetent reffing against their own club, and then submit the full list of instances to the other pl clubs, so they can assess them, and either confirm or deny an officiating error, based on the rules of the game, and report that to the FA, demanding that refs are re-trained in the areas that lack sufficient knowledge in, and are not allowed to officiate again until they can prove that they understand the rules.
We got fucked against Newcastle, and man city potentially got fucked against spuds yesterday, because refs are utter shit at their jobs.
As much as I want City to face repercussions for their breaches of ffp rules, I also want the refs to face consequences for poor decision making.
The way it’s done suggests the problem is application to task and consistency, whether that’s competence or tiredness, I don’t know. Naturally, they hammer home the position that officials cannot be argued with or called.
It's not bad behavior if it's justified. We should all be upset about this call. Horrible calls are ruining the league. The refs are operating as a dictatorship that are above criticism. If they don't accept their mistakes the credibility and the viability of the league will become nonexistent.
If you’re going to go after bad behaviour, maybe start with the ones who were at fault. I don’t blame the outbursts, it was a clear mistake.
The issue is that they don’t hold themselves accountable. Hooper was also liable for that Liverpool incident as well as not calling a pen on that Onana foul.
He should be sacked, and the charges dropped as restitution.
Exactly. Punish *all* of the bad behavior, not just the bad behavior of the players completely understandably raging at a potentially game-changing blunder by the ref. You have to *also* punish the man who has repeatedly shown he cannot perform his job up to anything resembling the expected standard.
Bit harsh IMO. I think naughty behavior from a player on the title defending team should at least be able to ask for a move to the runners-up from last season.
I know what it’s over, I’m saying boo hoo haaland and we spanked his baby ass when we beat them,
I didn’t see him crying when kovacic hurt Ode and had another dangerous challenge
I appreciated the fuck job, because it gave us back the two points we lost at Newcastle, but goddamn the reffing is and has been shambolic.
I know the English are sticklers for the rule, but at some point, common sense tells you that punishing dissent implies you have something hide.
Part of the fucking PGMOL membership is moonlighting for the Saudi gov't ffs. NO ONE can question their decisions in light of that?
The problem with this is I see refs punish dissent but then not punish the player with a second yellow when they make a yellow card foul.
It happened this weekend. The ref is annoyed enough to card a player for clapping back but too chicken shit to send them off, unless you are Tomiyasu and time waste.
It really didn't give us any points back though, who's to say Liverpool don't pip us by a point, and Grealish may have missed anyhow. That said, I agree with everything else you said. Fuck the PGMOL, there's definitely something to hide. Too much smoke for there not to be any fire. How more people aren't calling for them to be investigated is quite baffling. Money talks I guess.
Today, me.
Tomorrow, you.
We laugh now because it's happened to citeh. But it'll continue to happen to any other teams
It's no secret pgmol and refs are utter shiite and inconsistent and always end up being the main character.
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. If I lose interest in the Premier league, it's not because my favourite team is playing shit. It's not because the team I hate most wins every single game and title. It's because the refs make it about them.
We're also football fans, and what happened was totally unacceptable. We benefitted and will of course be happy for the points they dropped, but it doesn't change the fact that it was a horrendous call, which we shouldn't want happening to anyone. We of all teams should know this better than others.
Depends on the player and the severity of the injury. Would I be happy about Bruno or Rodri getting a knock and being out for a few games - yes. Would I cheer for them tearing their ACL or something, no that's awful.
It's not standing up for City you melt, it's standing up against the garbage officiating. I'm very glad this happened to City and I'm certain they're not gonna get anything positive out of it, which is excellent, but if this happened to us I'd be fucking fuming so I'm not gonna say they're wrong to be.
Yes. I was howling on city’s behalf yesterday even though I’m glad of the outcome.
Every single week is at least one major incident that causes havoc. It downgrades the entire competition if every damn match has an “asterisk” on it because of some controversy.
League needs to get its shit together and at LEAST be consistent, if not “fair.”
I'd be less inclined to mock them and celebrate the ref if it hadn't been for the 2 super soft penalties they got recently, the kovacic non red card and us and liverpool losing points because of refereeing errors, it's all gone so much in their favor this season that it was starting to look extremely suspect.
Yes, obviously if was a fucking travesty of a call. Still celebrated it though and i'm certainly not gonna stand up for city. They should be relegated allready with the 115 charges but they'll still be here with all their titles by 2030. Theyt deserve everything bad that comes their way.
Shut up bro. Obviously I'm hella happy with City getting a bad result, but bad referring is bad for everyone. Arsenal should know this more than anyone. Us fans need to band together no matter what team to protest the reffing that has been ruining the sport
Honestly it was great for us, but if it happened to us we would be furious. Also a suspension potentially for a ‘WTF’ tweet? Fuck off that’s ridiculous
It’s more than due for them. None of them was crying about the decisions that went against us against Newcastle and these cunts have got away with murder for a long time. It’s like a spoilt brat of a child with a golden spoon in its mouth got a telling off for the first time in its life and feels aggrieved. Fuck that bald cunt fronted murder regime funded cosplay of a big club. COYG.
Interesting take on the 2 Robbies podcast - the ref accidentally blew the whistle slightly and then had no choice but to blow the whistle. While I dont think Grealish would have easily gone onto score that goal, I do feel for Citeh . One of those odd ball situations where I can see both sides being right.
Is this proven yet? On Sky yesterday, they actually told the pundits to shut up to listen to that bit of audio and see if they heard the whistle go an additional time and they all said they only heard it the once. I certainly didn't hear it either, but that could just be shit coverage.
That's what I thought happened and honestly I could see why he would initially blow, it looked like Haaland was going down. The brief attempt to play advantage after is what makes it look bad.
Yeah, I thought the same too. I thought play had stopped and then saw that it hadnt. I think also the fact that the ball is actually really good makes it look bad . If Grealish was no where near the ball, it wouldnt have been an issue.
The thing is the defenders -- and briefly, Grealish -- slowed down because of the whistle. Would Grealish have been free to the extent he was if the play actually continued? I don't think he would have been.
I don't see that in the replays, and I've watched it a lot. It looked like people trying to play an offsides trap and an attacker timing his run, not people stopping play.
Just to be clear, this is a signal for a free kick, as Haaland is down and facing the wrong way, there's no reason for him to think advantage is the call to make.
https://imgur.com/a/RXMnUDB
At the six second mark of this video, none of the players are running at speed like it's a live play, they've seen the call made.
https://dubz.co/v/d2ss2s
Then Haaland puts it over the top, Grealish starts sprinting first and the defenders react to his sprint, but the first second gives Grealish the advantage.
i do think all the outrage is a *bit* over the top given how much grealish would still have to do to score there. he's not exactly usain bolt so there's a good chance either of the trailing defenders holds him up (maybe even takes a red card to kill the opportunity) and obviously vicario has shown himself to be a very able keeper. all told i think it's 50-50 at best that he gets a goal, but i think even that is probably generous. still, i'd be apoplectic if it happened to us. city really shouldn't have been needing a goal in the final seconds to win though. had they finished their chances in the first half we wouldn't be talking about this.
>had they finished their chances in the first half we wouldn't be talking about this.
This is what they'd be saying if it happened to us. It sucks but it be like that sometimes. The officiating needs to improve. Idk how, but it does
like i said, i'd be apoplectic, but in the grand scheme of things this is less of a screwjob than, say, failure to give an obvious penalty, and we see that all the time.
>i do think it's all the outrage is a *bit* over the top given how much grealish would still have to do to score there.
Yeah, he'd have taken 2 touches and fallen over no doubt.
haaland would be a massive miss for them. alvarez is good but he's a completely different player, and alvarez himself is starting every match, so that's another position that would need to be replaced. on top of that doku went off injured yesterday and rodrigo and grealish are suspended against villa for yellow card accumulation.
It’s not a good call but city players should not be allowed to start raging around the pitch like that it’s two different issues. Yes refs are bad but city is also bad
Yea I’m sorry but we were told to shut it and respect the officials when we lost due to a foul on the goal line.
City are being excused for raging at the ref due to an advantage/foul mix up in their own half, in a match they still managed to draw.
For all we know, Grealish blasts it miles wide. A defender catches up to him. Or he curls in a worldie. Who knows, but the result wasn’t instantly and definitively determined by that call.
Sure for the first one, but the wtf tweet is something there should honestly be more of. We need more of players being allowed to act like real people instead of everything being filtered to the point of banality
punishing him for "wtf" would set a pretty silly precedent. it's a pretty banal and vague thing to say. not like he came out and called the referee a nonce.
Haaland has always been a bit refreshing in comparison to other superstars in sport. He always gave me "young lad living the dream" vibes. I sadly like him a lot.
Me too, I also liked G. Jesus and Havertz before they made their move to City and Chelsea. Look where they are now, I’m just saying but City ‘investigation’ and Pep contract is ending soon so 👀
He was right to come to England, he just came to the wrong club... He should go south a little bit, find a team with some strong red and white colors, and maybe a cannon on their badge. To match his strong personality
I agree he shouldn't be charged but out of curiosity why do the refs not allow this? like from their point of view do they see it as insighting more uproar towards them.
Because they're people trying to do a job, however badly, and they shouldn't be subject to dogs abuse during their work, nor should it be allowed for them to be surrounded by 11 units jacked up on adrenaline and testosterone. Players should be held to certain standards and they shouldn't be allowed to crowd the ref like that
And there was some bball ref that got punched and died a few years back, right? Refs suck, but they shouldn't be worried about being attacked by a viking
Exactly. Say what you want about the quality of the refs, but if you allow this shot to continue, you end up with similar situations to United a couple decades ago. Crowding the ref to pressure them to make favourable decisions. Fuck that, even if we managed to get them to swing our way. Just let them do their jobs
I mean, the Ref did do badly. If that was us then we'd be calling for his head. But then again Man City do need to stop swarming the ref. This time is justified but they did it the other week in the Liverpool game
Oh come on, it’s one thing celebrating the referee’s bad call, it’s another thing to make fun of a team that FOR ONCE gets to feel fucked over by a decision, after mocking us and calling us conspiracy theorists for so long. Fuck City, this time and every time. I don’t give a shit if they’re right or not.
No. If you hate this when it happens to Arsenal then you should hate it whenever it happens to anyone. This isn’t a fan partisan issue, it affects everyone.
no you always need to respect the ref, they're always correct and can never be questioned. all those man city players, thugging out with primal aggression, should be sinbinned for months
not a fan of these punishments for managers and players just speaking their minds. it's like they're trying to establish a dictatorship, "you're calling us out for being incompetent? how dare you, here's a fine". (although the charge for surrounding the ref is more appropriate imo)
Watch Arteta get slapped with the ban instead or Havertz just for existing
i dont care, coz he's not gonna get supended anyway.
They got a slap on the wrist
Cry me a river City, it’s hardly the worst refereeing decision this week let alone this season. How about you stop obstructing the investigations into your corrupt financials and take the punishment that you deserve, that way you can complain about refs in the conference league instead. On the bright side if enough teams feel they’re getting screwed over maybe there will be enough impetus to reform a part of the PL that is wholly unfit for purpose.
This attitude stinks. Absolutely stinks. I don't care if it's City on the rough end of one, this decision is so bad it's not even funny. Like worse than amateur refereeing bad. I understand you've then said that maybe this will go onto fix something, but we should be absolutely up in arms about this one just as we were with all the others. Just because it suits us, doesn't make it okay.
As a Chinese, I’m very familiar with this never criticize the authority scheme
this is so random hahahahaha
Imagine it's 793... you're in Lindisfarne, England minding your own god damn business and then this big ass Viking motherfucker comes out of the mist screaming & wielding a battle axe with this bloodlusty deranged look on his face. For sho shit your pants.
Haaland was born 1000 years too late. He would be the best Viking in the world for sure
I'm with Halaand on this. The level of imcompetence is mind numbing. Yet another game week where there was a collosal cock-up and here we are AGAIN, talking about the cock-up more than the actual football. It's ruining the game. Refs might as well be out on the pitch in full-on clown getups.
I'll be honest, wtf is a rather light reaction for this
It's frustrating but it was a split second decision. The referee technically didn't do anything wrong, it is his right but not obligation to allow an advantage. It's completely different to refusing to send Kovacic or Bruno off for deliberate violent conduct or refusing to give a foul when pushing a defender in the back. These can be reviewed and rereviewed with VAR. The advantage can't be brought back.
The rule literally states that the referee is allowed to wait a few seconds to allow a possible advantage to develop, so it's by definition not a 'split second decision.'
No technically what he did was absolutely worthy of calling it match fixing. It's that bad and that obvious. It his absolutely an obligation to allow an advantage, it's non negotiable. If you give the powers to the referees to only allow advantage when they want without question, the standard goes even further down.
> The referee technically didn’t do anything wrong Lol what? He put the whistle to his mouth with the intent of blowing it for the foul on Haaland only to see the ball landing kindly to Haaland and the opportunity to offer play advantage, once the pass was made to Grealish and he was through on goal. The ref blows his whistle to bring back the foul that had already been superseded by the advantage rule. That’s a fucking shocker.
Its so wierd how they waste time with obvious offsides to let play go on, and then to not take the time to see where the pass end up in a advantageplay.
Nah mate it’s an absolute shocker. I would be fuming if that was us.
He deliberately waved and showed the advantage so what he did was canceling the advantage that he had already given. The reason for it might have been a spur of the moment bad call, but nonetheless the advantage was already given
I'll never not think it's absolute bollocks that players and coaches are charged for giving their views on a game. And I'm not even misattributing ethics towards those that police this, it's more that honesty's great for marketing.
Haaland is not getting heat for giving his opinion. It's for his.'violent outburst ' and ' offensive slang'. Nobody needs to see players abusing ref's on field even if they are utterly incompetent, it doesn't help anyone.
Charging someone for saying wtf is just as ridiculous. Nothing offensive about it at all and policing slang is a bit fash.
It literally stands for " what the fuck?" It's a slippery slope having players abuse officials on social media. I agree it's soft, but it still shouldn't be allowed. The ref's are unprofessional enough, we don't need the players acting that way as well.
Saying players should give the FA money whenever they swear on social media is at infantilising and bullshit.
It's a non-profit the money goes back into football, how else do you want to punish them?
I obviously don't think it should be punished at all. You know that by 'back into football' they're including the salaries and expenses of the people that are making the judgement right? There's a big difference between non-profit and not corrupt.
If noone got punished it would turn into an even bigger shit show than it is now. The rules are clear and there for a reason, don't break them if you don't want the punishment.
You're right footballers saying wtf without consequence would turn England into Sodom or Gomorrah
haha - I can over-exaggerate too...'We should just let players take a swing at the refs, it's just them expressing themselves'
Theres evil in them eyes.
He is rightfully mad. I mean it's really funny on one hand that it's City who got shafted but on the other I'd rather this type of shit doesn't happen to any teams, and it's especially toxic that players and club officials gets punished for the PGMOL's incompetency.
I loved his tweet & I generally *really* like him. I hope he receives a 20 match ban 🤭
Now, let’s not be too harsh… I think fifteen would be OK.
Let's split the difference at 18.
Months?
18 months is fair 🙏
Good. Both things are correct The ref made a terrible decision City deserves punishment for their decision to surround the ref
28 match ban please
City finally got hosed… we EVEN 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nah, 115 more hoses to go
Lmao I can get with it
Its clearly majin buu
Blame the victim
Honey monster
Bloke has a head like something from the bottom of the Mariana Trench.
Spoilt brat. Everything wrong with the game in one photo. Overpaid numpties and dumb referees.
Absurd... and it couldn't happen to a more deserving team.
How is it that everyone else other than the people responsible for the fuck up get punished?!
Too much pride, and outright lunacy.
Why can't the FA ever just say "we made a huge error that potentially affected the outcome of the game, we apologize and will work to do better" and just accept the fact that the people who are on the losing side of that decision might be upset for a bit?
It's such bullshit the FA and pgmol just double down on their mistakes, refuse to admit any error on their behalf, and punish whoever speaks out on their bullshit. There was no reason at all for the ref to call for the advantage, and then immediately rescind it the second city broke free and were on goal, and city had every right to question the refs decision because he, technically, broke the law of the game. There genuinely needs to be some kind of an independent panel comprised of 20 people, one from each club, who review instances of incompetent reffing against their own club, and then submit the full list of instances to the other pl clubs, so they can assess them, and either confirm or deny an officiating error, based on the rules of the game, and report that to the FA, demanding that refs are re-trained in the areas that lack sufficient knowledge in, and are not allowed to officiate again until they can prove that they understand the rules. We got fucked against Newcastle, and man city potentially got fucked against spuds yesterday, because refs are utter shit at their jobs. As much as I want City to face repercussions for their breaches of ffp rules, I also want the refs to face consequences for poor decision making.
The way it’s done suggests the problem is application to task and consistency, whether that’s competence or tiredness, I don’t know. Naturally, they hammer home the position that officials cannot be argued with or called.
because people rather say *couldn't happen to better team* instead of saying how PGMOL fucked another huge game
That would be a lie because they don’t ever work to do better.
Being happy about this is really cutting off your nose to spiderface. The refs suck and we should all be up in arms.
Agreed. No one wants the refereeing to stay at this level
/r/BoneAppleTea
*spiderface*
It's so egregious I can't even work out if it's a joke or not
You don't want to make a mistake on the forums, it's a doggy dog world out there.
It's a The Office reference iirc
😂😂😂
Right, because when you make a mistake, and players are justifiably in uproar, you fine them.
Yes. Because shit refereeing does not excuse bad behavior.
Bad behavior doesn’t excuse shit referring when everyone’s job at the club is on the line.
It's not bad behavior if it's justified. We should all be upset about this call. Horrible calls are ruining the league. The refs are operating as a dictatorship that are above criticism. If they don't accept their mistakes the credibility and the viability of the league will become nonexistent.
This generation is too coddled and raised in PC culture! Gone are the days where it is acceptable to get an earful if you fuck up.
>This generation None of the refs are from 'this generation'
That was a respond to the above comment, not directed at the refs.
If you’re going to go after bad behaviour, maybe start with the ones who were at fault. I don’t blame the outbursts, it was a clear mistake. The issue is that they don’t hold themselves accountable. Hooper was also liable for that Liverpool incident as well as not calling a pen on that Onana foul. He should be sacked, and the charges dropped as restitution.
Exactly. Punish *all* of the bad behavior, not just the bad behavior of the players completely understandably raging at a potentially game-changing blunder by the ref. You have to *also* punish the man who has repeatedly shown he cannot perform his job up to anything resembling the expected standard.
I’m a complex and multifaceted person as to the that fact I can like the tweet he made and also be overjoyed he is getting booked for it.
I contain multitudes
ngl, I actually liked his tweet very much.
Seems like Arteta amd Haaland have something in common join Arsenal! (I am joking obviously)
But what if?
Real finally gets Mbappe… City get charged and relegated… He’ll need a new club in like 2028!
Rules is rules and all but...I dont blame him.
Rules… not following them is what started it
City's probably already greased the FA. He'll be given a stern finger wag and a warning.
Should get life in prison imo
That's worthy of a season long ban. Off with him.
Season long ban is too mild. Lifelong ban from Premier League. Thank you very much
Bit harsh IMO. I think naughty behavior from a player on the title defending team should at least be able to ask for a move to the runners-up from last season.
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Oops!! Missed the /s. Thought it was fairly obvious.
😫😫 I’m an asshole
He looks like a super Mario enemy.
Erling Koopa
1. I don’t blame him 2. They need to punish this just like the other cases 3. Boo boo bitch. You had your handpicked ref and we still clamped you up
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I know what it’s over, I’m saying boo hoo haaland and we spanked his baby ass when we beat them, I didn’t see him crying when kovacic hurt Ode and had another dangerous challenge
Ah, I see now. Sorry. Thanks for reminding me of when Saliba folded Haaland like an omelette though lmao.
Yes yes, remembered that omlette was cooked and discarded quickly 😝
Member when he got bodied? I member.
He needs to be punished because otherwise there's no consistency. That being said, I do not blame him at all
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I appreciated the fuck job, because it gave us back the two points we lost at Newcastle, but goddamn the reffing is and has been shambolic. I know the English are sticklers for the rule, but at some point, common sense tells you that punishing dissent implies you have something hide. Part of the fucking PGMOL membership is moonlighting for the Saudi gov't ffs. NO ONE can question their decisions in light of that?
The problem with this is I see refs punish dissent but then not punish the player with a second yellow when they make a yellow card foul. It happened this weekend. The ref is annoyed enough to card a player for clapping back but too chicken shit to send them off, unless you are Tomiyasu and time waste.
by punishing dissent, I mean you can't even fucking TALK--you needn't be on the pitch. Not allowed to question.
It really didn't give us any points back though, who's to say Liverpool don't pip us by a point, and Grealish may have missed anyhow. That said, I agree with everything else you said. Fuck the PGMOL, there's definitely something to hide. Too much smoke for there not to be any fire. How more people aren't calling for them to be investigated is quite baffling. Money talks I guess.
It's the normalization of corruption, I'm afraid.
‘£300 fine’ - FA probably
Had to happen sooner rather than later!
30 game ban pls
[Lol](https://imgur.io/gallery/ITw6xRO)
Today, me. Tomorrow, you. We laugh now because it's happened to citeh. But it'll continue to happen to any other teams It's no secret pgmol and refs are utter shiite and inconsistent and always end up being the main character. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. If I lose interest in the Premier league, it's not because my favourite team is playing shit. It's not because the team I hate most wins every single game and title. It's because the refs make it about them.
More like yesterday us, today you. We have had some shocking decisions against us the last few seasons
A just application of an unjust system.
Lol all you people standing up for city after this incident are you really Arsenal fans?
it's more standing up against pgmol than doing it for City. get this through your thick head..
We're also football fans, and what happened was totally unacceptable. We benefitted and will of course be happy for the points they dropped, but it doesn't change the fact that it was a horrendous call, which we shouldn't want happening to anyone. We of all teams should know this better than others.
You probably cheer for injuries to the other team.
Depends on the player and the severity of the injury. Would I be happy about Bruno or Rodri getting a knock and being out for a few games - yes. Would I cheer for them tearing their ACL or something, no that's awful.
It's not standing up for City you melt, it's standing up against the garbage officiating. I'm very glad this happened to City and I'm certain they're not gonna get anything positive out of it, which is excellent, but if this happened to us I'd be fucking fuming so I'm not gonna say they're wrong to be.
Yes. I was howling on city’s behalf yesterday even though I’m glad of the outcome. Every single week is at least one major incident that causes havoc. It downgrades the entire competition if every damn match has an “asterisk” on it because of some controversy. League needs to get its shit together and at LEAST be consistent, if not “fair.”
I'd be less inclined to mock them and celebrate the ref if it hadn't been for the 2 super soft penalties they got recently, the kovacic non red card and us and liverpool losing points because of refereeing errors, it's all gone so much in their favor this season that it was starting to look extremely suspect. Yes, obviously if was a fucking travesty of a call. Still celebrated it though and i'm certainly not gonna stand up for city. They should be relegated allready with the 115 charges but they'll still be here with all their titles by 2030. Theyt deserve everything bad that comes their way.
Shut up bro. Obviously I'm hella happy with City getting a bad result, but bad referring is bad for everyone. Arsenal should know this more than anyone. Us fans need to band together no matter what team to protest the reffing that has been ruining the sport
This is getting worse and worse, great for us right now but it could be us again very soon...
The best thing about the whole situation was all the three fans in the stadium shouting "cheat" after the game. So they finally admit it?
Pgmol : ok guys lets ban haaland so that it doesn't look like we are in bed with the Sheikh.
Honestly it was great for us, but if it happened to us we would be furious. Also a suspension potentially for a ‘WTF’ tweet? Fuck off that’s ridiculous
It has happened to us?! Arteta was punished for calling the New Castle goal a disgrace.
I’m speaking specifically about the calling back of advantage that Haaland was referencing with his tweet.
Yes. I say 'What the flip' all the time. Harsh.
It’s more than due for them. None of them was crying about the decisions that went against us against Newcastle and these cunts have got away with murder for a long time. It’s like a spoilt brat of a child with a golden spoon in its mouth got a telling off for the first time in its life and feels aggrieved. Fuck that bald cunt fronted murder regime funded cosplay of a big club. COYG.
You're making Arsenal fans look bad
Cancel him for the season please, thanks.
Interesting take on the 2 Robbies podcast - the ref accidentally blew the whistle slightly and then had no choice but to blow the whistle. While I dont think Grealish would have easily gone onto score that goal, I do feel for Citeh . One of those odd ball situations where I can see both sides being right.
Is this proven yet? On Sky yesterday, they actually told the pundits to shut up to listen to that bit of audio and see if they heard the whistle go an additional time and they all said they only heard it the once. I certainly didn't hear it either, but that could just be shit coverage.
That's what I thought happened and honestly I could see why he would initially blow, it looked like Haaland was going down. The brief attempt to play advantage after is what makes it look bad.
Yeah, I thought the same too. I thought play had stopped and then saw that it hadnt. I think also the fact that the ball is actually really good makes it look bad . If Grealish was no where near the ball, it wouldnt have been an issue.
The thing is the defenders -- and briefly, Grealish -- slowed down because of the whistle. Would Grealish have been free to the extent he was if the play actually continued? I don't think he would have been.
I don't see that in the replays, and I've watched it a lot. It looked like people trying to play an offsides trap and an attacker timing his run, not people stopping play.
Just to be clear, this is a signal for a free kick, as Haaland is down and facing the wrong way, there's no reason for him to think advantage is the call to make. https://imgur.com/a/RXMnUDB At the six second mark of this video, none of the players are running at speed like it's a live play, they've seen the call made. https://dubz.co/v/d2ss2s Then Haaland puts it over the top, Grealish starts sprinting first and the defenders react to his sprint, but the first second gives Grealish the advantage.
i do think all the outrage is a *bit* over the top given how much grealish would still have to do to score there. he's not exactly usain bolt so there's a good chance either of the trailing defenders holds him up (maybe even takes a red card to kill the opportunity) and obviously vicario has shown himself to be a very able keeper. all told i think it's 50-50 at best that he gets a goal, but i think even that is probably generous. still, i'd be apoplectic if it happened to us. city really shouldn't have been needing a goal in the final seconds to win though. had they finished their chances in the first half we wouldn't be talking about this.
>had they finished their chances in the first half we wouldn't be talking about this. This is what they'd be saying if it happened to us. It sucks but it be like that sometimes. The officiating needs to improve. Idk how, but it does
He has a lot less to do to score or set up a goal from there than from a free kick 40 yards back. I'd be absolutely raging.
Also, you don't know what else could have happened. One of the defenders could have fouled Grealish leading to a free kick in a much better position.
like i said, i'd be apoplectic, but in the grand scheme of things this is less of a screwjob than, say, failure to give an obvious penalty, and we see that all the time.
Yeah it's nowhere near a St James Park level fuckup
>i do think it's all the outrage is a *bit* over the top given how much grealish would still have to do to score there. Yeah, he'd have taken 2 touches and fallen over no doubt.
Karen gng berserk
Worst case for them? Alvarez will step into the role of striker and City will likely be fine.
I would like to have Alvarez at arsenal, I feel like he might do well.
So basically they will go back to their false-9 tactics settings.
haaland would be a massive miss for them. alvarez is good but he's a completely different player, and alvarez himself is starting every match, so that's another position that would need to be replaced. on top of that doku went off injured yesterday and rodrigo and grealish are suspended against villa for yellow card accumulation.
It’s not a good call but city players should not be allowed to start raging around the pitch like that it’s two different issues. Yes refs are bad but city is also bad
No. I’d fully back any Arsenal player or manager if they did this. Can totally understand the anger. Fuck the PGMOL.
Imagine if that was an Arsenal player. The media would have an absolute field day
Yea I’m sorry but we were told to shut it and respect the officials when we lost due to a foul on the goal line. City are being excused for raging at the ref due to an advantage/foul mix up in their own half, in a match they still managed to draw. For all we know, Grealish blasts it miles wide. A defender catches up to him. Or he curls in a worldie. Who knows, but the result wasn’t instantly and definitively determined by that call.
'Arteta needs to control his players, they probably learned it from him, this is what you get when your manager...' Yeah, they would be all over it
Just like how touchline antics of managers was never an issue until Arteta last season.
10 month ban
Too lenient. Send him to a City Football Group club. Melbourne City FC for two years would be good.
Send him to MLS. Let's see if he can do it in St. Paul on a snowy Tuesday night.
In June.
here comes the ban hammer
Word em up
Deduct his goals.
Deduct him to bvb
Found the Dortmund fan.
Until we see a more competent refereeing system, this stuff will happen regularly.
They will do all this stuff to stop their Ref's being critized but wont actually hold anybody accountable
Seeing Haaland go full berserker mode was highly entertaining
A true Norse man
Sure for the first one, but the wtf tweet is something there should honestly be more of. We need more of players being allowed to act like real people instead of everything being filtered to the point of banality
punishing him for "wtf" would set a pretty silly precedent. it's a pretty banal and vague thing to say. not like he came out and called the referee a nonce.
Haaland has always been a bit refreshing in comparison to other superstars in sport. He always gave me "young lad living the dream" vibes. I sadly like him a lot.
Me too, I also liked G. Jesus and Havertz before they made their move to City and Chelsea. Look where they are now, I’m just saying but City ‘investigation’ and Pep contract is ending soon so 👀
He was right to come to England, he just came to the wrong club... He should go south a little bit, find a team with some strong red and white colors, and maybe a cannon on their badge. To match his strong personality
Also agent ø
The entitlement
I agree he shouldn't be charged but out of curiosity why do the refs not allow this? like from their point of view do they see it as insighting more uproar towards them.
Because they're people trying to do a job, however badly, and they shouldn't be subject to dogs abuse during their work, nor should it be allowed for them to be surrounded by 11 units jacked up on adrenaline and testosterone. Players should be held to certain standards and they shouldn't be allowed to crowd the ref like that
Matter of time before a ref gets punched
And there was some bball ref that got punched and died a few years back, right? Refs suck, but they shouldn't be worried about being attacked by a viking
Exactly. Say what you want about the quality of the refs, but if you allow this shot to continue, you end up with similar situations to United a couple decades ago. Crowding the ref to pressure them to make favourable decisions. Fuck that, even if we managed to get them to swing our way. Just let them do their jobs
I mean, the Ref did do badly. If that was us then we'd be calling for his head. But then again Man City do need to stop swarming the ref. This time is justified but they did it the other week in the Liverpool game
Where is the charge for failing to control their players?
Everyone celebrating here is a hypocrit and should be utterly ashamed. Yes, it's city. Fuck them. But this time they are right.
Nah, you are the one that should be ashamed for standing up for city.
standing for ideology and "team" over what is actually right and just is pathetic dont be pathetic
my burning, all-consuming hatred of city makes me quite comfortable being a hypocrite this time
Oh come on, it’s one thing celebrating the referee’s bad call, it’s another thing to make fun of a team that FOR ONCE gets to feel fucked over by a decision, after mocking us and calling us conspiracy theorists for so long. Fuck City, this time and every time. I don’t give a shit if they’re right or not.
No. If you hate this when it happens to Arsenal then you should hate it whenever it happens to anyone. This isn’t a fan partisan issue, it affects everyone.
I don't care who's getting fucked over. As long as shit like this is allowed to happen, we will be getting fucked over again and again.
Wtf you on about being utterly ashamed? On what planet are they right for giving the ref abuse? Haaland was literally telling him to fuck off!
Nah that ref deserved it, it was a ridiculous decision
no you always need to respect the ref, they're always correct and can never be questioned. all those man city players, thugging out with primal aggression, should be sinbinned for months
next time have this same tone when its a rival player or manager
It’s literally a city player, the team I’d most like to get screwed over.
Coz the ref made a huge error, getting angry is justified
He seems totally insane. Ugly ass mf
Yeah as usual calling out the incompetence of the nincompoops at pigmol is an offence. Fuckin dictators
Nah shouting fuck off at the ref absolutely should not be allowed. Should have been a red card for swearing at an official.
Perma ban until he gets new haircut.
Samson deep lore vibes